Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans - Santo Domingo

RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans

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Baracutei previously said:

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Boricua previously said:

Baracutei, I was wondering if you know anything about the spaniards that most mulatto/white dominicans are descended from? I have noticed that alot of the light skinned/white dominicans I see have a more distinct arab/jewish look than their Puerto Rican/Cuban counterparts.

Hello Boricua,
I mean to post more pics but Im garage cleaning at the moment!

Okay regarding your question. You are correct.
In the mtDNA tests that have been conducted some incredible findings have emerged. Let me list justa few.

(1) The majoriity of the mtdna is of African extraction (not surprising) however many people tested were actually Haitians. None-the-less they need to be counted.

(2) 18-24 percent were of Indigenous Taino extraction. But the Taino of the southern part of the island were of a different haplogroup that appears to be older than those found in the Cibao.

(3) most the the "white" mitochondria extracted was of Arabic/Semitic origen! this is an incredible find

(4) aside from the Taino which is what I was rooting for (for obvious reasons) I think the most exciting find is that of an African halpogroup that is not found anywhere aside of Africa to date and yet it is in large quantities in the DR! This is incredible if you ask me.

Back ot work for me!

Baracutei

I'm sorry I meant to ask this when this was posted and these findings have been on my mind no joke since you posted it but can you provide sources of where you found this information. All of it would be nice, but I'm extremely interested in the highlighted portion as I've always wondered why I looked like a Mizrahim or Sephardim.

#456 - Posted 4 July 2009, 8:24 PM
ElTorodeiCibao Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597	RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans Quote: troy310879 previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: Baracutei previously said: Quote: Boricua previously said: Baracutei, I was wondering if you know anything about the spaniards that most mulatto/white dominicans are descended from? I have noticed that alot of the light skinned/white dominicans I see have a more distinct arab/jewish look than their Puerto Rican/Cuban counterparts. Hello Boricua, I mean to post more pics but Im garage cleaning at the moment! Okay regarding your question. You are correct. In the mtDNA tests that have been conducted some incredible findings have emerged. Let me list justa few. (1) The majoriity of the mtdna is of African extraction (not surprising) however many people tested were actually Haitians. None-the-less they need to be counted. (2) 18-24 percent were of Indigenous Taino extraction. But the Taino of the southern part of the island were of a different haplogroup that appears to be older than those found in the Cibao. (3) most the the "white" mitochondria extracted was of Arabic/Semitic origen! this is an incredible find (4) aside from the Taino which is what I was rooting for (for obvious reasons) I think the most exciting find is that of an African halpogroup that is not found anywhere aside of Africa to date and yet it is in large quantities in the DR! This is incredible if you ask me. Back ot work for me! Baracutei I'm sorry I meant to ask this when this was posted and these findings have been on my mind no joke since you posted it but can you provide sources of where you found this information. All of it would be nice, but I'm extremely interested in the highlighted portion as I've always wondered why I looked like a Mizrahim or Sephardim. Alot of Canary Islanders immigrated to the DR and I believe most Canary Islanders are heavily mixed with the indigenous Guanche people of the islands who were berbers/arabs. That could be it. That's a very likely scenario, I was just hoping he could share his sources. I've read that the Canary Islanders contributed more than just genetics also, but affected our Spanish. Not just Dominicans either, but what could be referred to as Caribbean Spanish (Cuba, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Venezuela).
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#451 - Posted 4 July 2009, 11:52 AM
Taino871 Location: United States Join date: November 2008 Member #: 1664 Posts: 12	RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans This solidifies my thoughts of Puerto Ricans and Domincans being as close as we are. Thought many in the states think differently in terms of. Brotherly love . The true Taino comes out in all of us and it truly gives me a warm feeling inside. My 3 children are of both races and one has dark features and the other 2 have olive skin the bottom line is I have beautiful children because of this mix. Bottom line IS We Belong. T
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#452 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:10 PM
yumnuk3 Location: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ Join date: June 2008 Member #: 926 Posts: 3319	RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans Repeat post for those who missed it People With Taino Ancestry From San Jose de Las Matas Community organizer Woman in White child in the middle People With Taino Ancestry From San Jose de Las Matas Dominicans with high percentages of Taíno ancestry, the descendants of “cimarrones” who ran away from the Spanish-dominated regions of the country to settle around today’s Baitoa, San José de las Matas , Inoa Abajo, and Caobanico, among others. Here are a couple of pictures of people here in the DR with Taino traits. This lady is a native taino. she was born in a small town between La Vega and Santiago where most of the people have a big Taino desendence. here is a picture of the guy who looks like he stepped out of the Brazilan jungle. He works for Edenorte and all the guys who work with him call him "El Peruano". This young man is a batu player from Azua. Batu is the ancient Taino game traditionaly played in a "batey". There are three major groups of Batu players in Azua. They have been playing since 1970. This young man belongs to grupo Athene. All the best Baracutei Taino Survival in the 21st Century Dominican Republic, by Peter Ferbel http://www.kacike.org/FerbelEnglish.html
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#453 - Posted 4 July 2009, 3:17 PM
Baracutei Location: United States, New York/CT Join date: January 2009 Member #: 1982 Posts: 105	RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans Quote: Lemba previously said: Baracutei, i missed that one, i do know jaiba is land crab. Its a common nickname i grew up hearing as well. Dont know if u remember me but i'm SuperConejo from Dr1. Good to see you. Superconejo! It is so good to see you on here. I have always enjoyed our converstations and very impressed with your knowledge of such things. Its great to re-connect with you! Baracutei
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#454 - Posted 4 July 2009, 3:17 PM
Baracutei Location: United States, New York/CT Join date: January 2009 Member #: 1982 Posts: 105	RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans Quote: Lemba previously said: Baracutei, i missed that one, i do know jaiba is land crab. Its a common nickname i grew up hearing as well. Dont know if u remember me but i'm SuperConejo from Dr1. Good to see you. Superconejo! It is so good to see you on here. I have always enjoyed our converstations and very impressed with your knowledge of such things. Its great to re-connect with you! Baracutei
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#459 - Posted 4 July 2009, 11:41 PM
cyberdragon Location: Dominican Republic Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2266 Posts: 1533	RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans Quote: troy310879 previously said: Quote: cyberdragon previously said: Quote: troy310879 previously said: What would a Dominican call a dark skinned person with "fair" features? Like an East Indian-looking Mulatto? "Moreno Fino" Of course these are mere descriptions like in case a cop asks you who did it. It has almost nothing to do with genotype, since two brothers often can have two different descriptions. uhhh the only white features he has is her hair. I'm talking like this: I met a Dominican who looked like that once The picture I posted does not have European hair.
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#455 - Posted 4 July 2009, 8:09 PM
ElTorodeiCibao Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597	RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans Quote: Baracutei previously said: Quote: Boricua previously said: Baracutei, I was wondering if you know anything about the spaniards that most mulatto/white dominicans are descended from? I have noticed that alot of the light skinned/white dominicans I see have a more distinct arab/jewish look than their Puerto Rican/Cuban counterparts. Hello Boricua, I mean to post more pics but Im garage cleaning at the moment! Okay regarding your question. You are correct. In the mtDNA tests that have been conducted some incredible findings have emerged. Let me list justa few. (1) The majoriity of the mtdna is of African extraction (not surprising) however many people tested were actually Haitians. None-the-less they need to be counted. (2) 18-24 percent were of Indigenous Taino extraction. But the Taino of the southern part of the island were of a different haplogroup that appears to be older than those found in the Cibao. (3) most the the "white" mitochondria extracted was of Arabic/Semitic origen! this is an incredible find (4) aside from the Taino which is what I was rooting for (for obvious reasons) I think the most exciting find is that of an African halpogroup that is not found anywhere aside of Africa to date and yet it is in large quantities in the DR! This is incredible if you ask me. Back ot work for me! Baracutei I'm sorry I meant to ask this when this was posted and these findings have been on my mind no joke since you posted it but can you provide sources of where you found this information. All of it would be nice, but I'm extremely interested in the highlighted portion as I've always wondered why I looked like a Mizrahim or Sephardim.
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#457 - Posted 4 July 2009, 8:46 PM
ElTorodeiCibao Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597	RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans Quote: troy310879 previously said: I don't know about Cuba, Venezuela and Puerto Rico though. White/light skinned dominicans have a much more middle eastern look than White Cubans, Boricuas and Venezuelans. Maybe Canarians and their mixed descendants make the majority in DR while the Canarians in Cuba, Puerto Rico and Venezuela are a minority? My fault there, I meant other than their effect genetically to the Caribbean (more in R.D. than others perhaps) they influenced Caribbean Spanish for all those nations.
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#458 - Posted 4 July 2009, 11:16 PM
ElTorodeiCibao Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597	RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans Quote: troy310879 previously said: Actually, the Canarians are mostly visible in Puerto Rico and Cuba, not DR. Where have you read this? I only wondered because you've said two opposing things and thought perhaps you read something between the two posts.
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#460 - Posted 4 July 2009, 11:47 PM
cyberdragon Location: Dominican Republic Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2266 Posts: 1533	RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans Quote: troy310879 previously said: Quote: cyberdragon previously said: Quote: troy310879 previously said: Quote: cyberdragon previously said: Quote: troy310879 previously said: What would a Dominican call a dark skinned person with "fair" features? Like an East Indian-looking Mulatto? "Moreno Fino" Of course these are mere descriptions like in case a cop asks you who did it. It has almost nothing to do with genotype, since two brothers often can have two different descriptions. uhhh the only white features he has is her hair. I'm talking like this: I met a Dominican who looked like that once The picture I posted does not have European hair. He doesn't have straight hair? Oh then he's black. No, I meant his hair wasn't helixed, but "good" mixed hair. Derek Jeter's hair is not exactly like White people I see like for instance Arnold S. or Triple H. Edited on 7/4/2009 11:47 PM by cyberdragon.
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