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| #41 - Posted 1 December 2008, 10:33 AM | |
 Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1575  | RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans As for the original topic I'm glad to see more research and science is being done around Amerindian legacy in DR and elsewhere. It seems to me there are various nefarious agendas behind the notion that the Taino were totally zeroed out. In my own case I'm not directly ware of distinctly Taino/Amerindian individuals in my recent ancestry, however certain features common in my extended family have always caused me to doubt the claim that Dominicans are of strictly African and European descent. |
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| #42 - Posted 1 December 2008, 10:39 AM | |
 Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 3567 | RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans "In my own case I'm not directly ware of distinctly Taino/Amerindian individuals in my recent ancestry, however certain features common in my extended family have always caused me to doubt the claim that Dominicans are of strictly African and European descent." I'm certain I have Taino ancestry by way of my paternal grandmother (hence in won't show in my mitochondrial DNA but in all probability my dad's. I actually had my DNA tested for the human genome project a while back so there's no mystery for me there anyway). The woman had a VERY Indian phenotype. She was originally from Janico, a town noted for denizens with apparent Amerindian features. Actually, one can find traces of Taino genes in many faces in the cibao region. 'The past is never dead. In fact, it's not even past.' - William Faulkner |
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| #43 - Posted 1 December 2008, 10:48 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 8467 | RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans anthonyc, now i understand why you are so academically limited. you cite some opinions by someone who runs a blog as evidence? it is an article which is so equivocal, no serious thinker gains anything from it , one way or another. |
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| #44 - Posted 1 December 2008, 10:59 AM | |
 Location: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me Join date: December 2007 Member #: 9 Posts: 13576 | RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: "In my own case I'm not directly ware of distinctly Taino/Amerindian individuals in my recent ancestry, however certain features common in my extended family have always caused me to doubt the claim that Dominicans are of strictly African and European descent." I'm certain I have Taino ancestry by way of my paternal grandmother (hence in won't show in my mitochondrial DNA but in all probability my dad's. I actually had my DNA tested for the human genome project a while back so there's no mystery for me there anyway). The woman had a VERY Indian phenotype. She was originally from Janico, a town noted for denizens with apparent Amerindian features. Actually, one can find traces of Taino genes in many faces in the cibao region. ciby come  n fess up it was a paternity case you had the test for  lets get ready to RUUMMMMMMBBBLLLEE |
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| #45 - Posted 1 December 2008, 11:00 AM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 3567 | RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans "ciby comen fess up it was a paternity case you had the test for " I'm happy to report that I am not the father. 'The past is never dead. In fact, it's not even past.' - William Faulkner |
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| #46 - Posted 1 December 2008, 11:58 AM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1104 Posts: 659 | RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans Arkatype, Said It's a proven fact that the indigenous population of the island was not totally exterminated by the spaniards. Their was even a peace treaty between the indigenous people and the spaniards around 1520 or so. It took place in what is today known as Lake Enriquillo, the same indigenous people settled in Boya not far from Santo Domingo city. You still can see the taino features on many dominicans today, theirs very clear historical evidence that state that many indigenous peoples escaped into the difficult and inaccessible high mountains, where they formed villages and remained outside of any threat. and many more spanish colonist intermarried with indigenous woman, that were intergrated into the society of that time. Edited on 12/1/2008 12:33 PM by arkatype. You are the light of truth ARKATYPE |
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| #47 - Posted 1 December 2008, 12:41 PM | |
 Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 926 Posts: 1897 | RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans These people are very unskilled in arms... with 50 men they could all be subjected and made to do all that one wished. Christopher Columbus The fate of Los Haitises What you can do Tell the Dominican Embassy in the U.S. that you oppose the government concession to build the cement factory. Telephone 202-332-6280, fax 202-265-8057, or e-mail embassy@us.serex.gov.do |
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| #48 - Posted 1 December 2008, 12:55 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 926 Posts: 1897 | RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans Abolish Columbus Day Why celebrate a day that pretends this country was empty when it was “discovered”? That’s like claiming the U.S. “discovered” Iraq in 2003. (Maybe that’s what the history books George Bush dreams about will say in 200 years). It’s an insulting myth and makes light of the genocide that started during that time period. The “Columbus Day” holiday is the only national holiday that is overtly insulting to millions . It is now universally understood that Christopher Columbus did not “discover” the American continent. That concept is one that is deeply insulting to American Indians and many native-born Americans of all cultures. It is also historically incorrect. American Indian people have been on this continent at least 10,000 years, and scientists have proven that numerous other explorers had arrived on this continent from other parts of the world long before Columbus. It is also now known that many of the things we once believed about Christopher Columbus were myths, and that much of what we did not know about him would seriously tarnish his image, to say the least. . . . . We therefore request that our Congressional Representatives re-name the federal holiday known as “Columbus Day” to “First Americans Day.” We also urge state and local elected officials, as well as businesses to do the same. Columbus took the title 'Admiral of the Ocean Sea' and proceeded to unleash a reign of terror unlike anything seen before or since. When he was finished, eight million Arawaks -- virtually the entire native population of Hispaniola -- had been exterminated by torture, murder, forced labor, starvation, disease and despair.  Canoa feed and water troughs in Los Pinos, Moncion Edited on 3/24/2009 11:55 PM by yumnuk3. The fate of Los Haitises What you can do Tell the Dominican Embassy in the U.S. that you oppose the government concession to build the cement factory. Telephone 202-332-6280, fax 202-265-8057, or e-mail embassy@us.serex.gov.do |
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| #49 - Posted 1 December 2008, 1:04 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1575 | RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans I don't like First Americans day. Maybe Atlantic Heritage Day to keep it as a commemoration of all the history on all sides of the colonial histories. |
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| #50 - Posted 1 December 2008, 1:10 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 3567 | RE: Taino Ancestry Among Dominicans When he was finished, eight million Arawaks -- virtually the entire native population of Hispaniola -- had been exterminated by torture, murder, forced labor, starvation, disease and despair." You began this thread by posting an article that negates the statement I just quoted. If all the Tainos were exterminated why are we finding their genetic markers in current populations? That their population was decimated is beyond debating but obviously many were simply absorbed into newly forming populations. 'The past is never dead. In fact, it's not even past.' - William Faulkner |
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