#91 - Posted 14 December 2008, 1:13 PM
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2) Now as for you LAU: You are truly an idiot if you think that the Dominicans would be on top if ever a forced reunification would take place for the simple fact that we would outnumber you more than you can ever imagine because we already have 2 million of our people living on the other side plus about another 500,000 thousand undercover Haitians. I'm referring to the Dominicans of Haitian descent that are pretending to be Dominicans and most of them do pass as Dominicans at ease in your country and of course you have the 1 million bateyees which are obviously Haitians. Then you will have this one tiny little problem the Haitian diaspora they will then have double citizenship in this new world and with that comes the Black Caucus. While Haiti will gain more devotees the so called Dominicans on the other hand will lose it's die hard supporters i.e. the Rubi's the Carlosfrancos, and the Arky's for these guys would rather move to P-R or Cuba then to share the island with us and that's how you will not be on top Laut.



You're even more of an idiot if you believe that numbers can give you political power, specially on a country like this. If that were to be so, how come the negs on your country are still being trampled on by the foreigners (be it american or otherwise) living over there. Keep smoking your crack, cuz' everyday that passes, you're more amusing than anything else.
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#92 - Posted 14 December 2008, 1:15 PM
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3) Not only the Dominicans will not be able to fight a guerrilla style warfare with Haiti but psychologically we already have them beaten they won't come out at night because most of the Dominican soldiers will be afraid of Voodoo, you know the Tét sanko, the Baka, the Zombiefication, the Lougarous etc... Because no Dominican soldier would wants to get turned into a cow although you and I can agree that its all BS and that its impossible to turn a human into a cow but tryi telling the Dominican soldiers that. So you see home field advantage does makes us somewhat invincible.



May I ask you where are all those things right now? Cuz' last I saw, the brazilian troops of the Minustah are still kicking your bundas around. I don't see them cowering before any Voodoo bs or anything remotely related to it. LOL
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#93 - Posted 14 December 2008, 2:34 PM
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"...2) Now as for you LAU: You are truly an idiot if you think that the Dominicans would be on top if ever a forced reunification would take place for the simple fact that we would outnumber you more than you can ever imagine because we already have 2 million of our people living on the other side plus about another 500,000 thousand undercover Haitians. I'm referring to the Dominicans of Haitian descent that are pretending to be Dominicans and most of them do pass as Dominicans at ease in your country and of course you have the 1 million bateyees which are obviously Haitians. Then you will have this one tiny little problem the Haitian diaspora they will then have double citizenship in this new world and with that comes the Black Caucus. While Haiti will gain more devotees the so called Dominicans on the other hand will lose it's die hard supporters i.e. the Rubi's the Carlosfrancos, and the Arky's for these guys would rather move to P-R or Cuba then to share the island with us and that's how you will not be on top Laut..."

- Haitianation, it's really sad how little you seem to know about the way things work in DR:
First of all, numbers mean nothing. The Haitians that currently live in DR (all 2 million) live like crap, selling stuff in the streets to get by in the cities, sleeping in the construction sites they're working on because they have nothing or in isolated bateyes. The latin american elite is not an easy one to defeat, and even from Haiti itself you can see that a few can control many.

- Ethnic Haitians only pass themselves off as Dominicans on paper, you have no idea of how well we Dominicans know each other and often times even stupid little nuances can give someone away. Due to cultural differences and the language barrier this is something that is not always obvious to people from other cultures (including Haitians). As a matter of fact, I believe the 1-2 million statistics of Haitians living in DR, include their descendants.

- The Haitian diaspora: Most like the Dominican diaspora live in countries where the norm is for someone to be proud of their ancestry (countries like the US for example), meaning the Haitians there will never accept being labeled as Dominicans.

- "Then comes the black caucus" - they've been at it for several years now and nothing's changed, what progress has been made? instead of living in isolated bateyes they now live in construction sites? the pink book? the Supreme Court ruling that extended the in transit status to include illegal immigrants? changing the citizenship laws? the crackdown on renewing papers with fraudulent information in them by the JCE, a category that 99.9% of the Haitians that have papers fall into?

- And lastly, no one in their right mind trying to escape from having Haitians in their country would move to any of the neighboring islands, Cuba or PR. Because once Haitians are done deforesting all of Hispaniola, and the whole island becomes one huge hell-hole, guess where their then 15-20 million Haitians are going to end up???
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Haiti is fighting a war right now, the war for its survival and it is loosing it. Where are the “guerrilla street fighters”? Where are the braves Dessalines’ sons fighting for their children future, for their women honor, for their national proud? One of the best things Haitians can have in this world is Dominicans ruling over there. In no scenario we could be worse than the beasts actually ruling now. (As a matter of fact, annexation to Dominican Republic is an important option but, of course, we do not want it).


Thats' precisely the reason why I can't take some of you guys seriously.

Let's get it out of the way. Haiti is in horrible shape.

The problem is when some of you are trying to make a point, you get blinded by rhetoric and don't do much reflecting.

You underestimate the "beasts" running the DR. Let the Dominican people start rising up everyday and have widespread protests demanding a stop to all the BS corruption, see how vicious they get.

I wouldn't wish that on the country.

Haiti is worse-off because of bad governance and she's BROKE. Please, please don't let the DR go broke or you'll see conflicts like you'd never seen before.
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Think about it Lat, how this will play in the USA ,and around the world the better off bad Dominicans attacking their poor defenceless neighboor, Haitian will again play the victim card, in a twisted strategically way the Haitian may even benefit.



The WEST doesn't give a shit about haiti...
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can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war!


Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous.




That;s what I've been trying to tell those idiots that want to start a war with Haiti. Yes DR will try to huff and puff but eventually, the UN will end up occupying both sides of the island at the same time. That's all. A FORCED REUNIFICATION again I win because that's what I wanted in the first place.


Yes but, have you asked yourself the question of who will be really on top? Cuz' I assure you that it won't be the Jean Pierre selling skim ice on the avenues. If something, he will be even more down the ladder than before, having to cope not only with the Petionville elite, but also with the one of Los Cacicazgos to add insult to injury, twice despised and stepped upon by all the parties involved. You really must hate your countrymen if you want that scenario to happen that badly.

Hey Dominicanation why this obsession to be Dominican ? I understand you are half, your family may be united but the island not, just be happy with what you are, you can not change 200 years of history overnight, Why so much negative rethoric coming from you ,if you want to be like them. Sound confusing, I understand that you ready to give up your culture, language. I challenge you to open a thread, about that same topic in HaitiXchange, let me know the result.


1) I've said it before and I will say it again "I Dominicanation do not recognize the Dominican Republic as a country but simply a de facto state of Haiti in other words the Dominican Republic is not a country. The only Dominicans I acknowledge are from a small Caribbean island called "DOMINICA"
Thus the name Dominicanation is only of reference to the island of Dominica and not the de facto regime located on the eastern side of the island of "AYITI" Get it?

2) Now as for you LAU: You are truly an idiot if you think that the Dominicans would be on top if ever a forced reunification would take place for the simple fact that we would outnumber you more than you can ever imagine because we already have 2 million of our people living on the other side plus about another 500,000 thousand undercover Haitians. I'm referring to the Dominicans of Haitian descent that are pretending to be Dominicans and most of them do pass as Dominicans at ease in your country and of course you have the 1 million bateyees which are obviously Haitians. Then you will have this one tiny little problem the Haitian diaspora they will then have double citizenship in this new world and with that comes the Black Caucus. While Haiti will gain more devotees the so called Dominicans on the other hand will lose it's die hard supporters i.e. the Rubi's the Carlosfrancos, and the Arky's for these guys would rather move to P-R or Cuba then to share the island with us and that's how you will not be on top Laut.

3) Not only the Dominicans will not be able to fight a guerrilla style warfare with Haiti but psychologically we already have them beaten they won't come out at night because most of the Dominican soldiers will be afraid of Voodoo, you know the Tét sanko, the Baka, the Zombiefication, the Lougarous etc... Because no Dominican soldier would wants to get turned into a cow although you and I can agree that its all BS and that its impossible to turn a human into a cow but tryi telling the Dominican soldiers that. So you see home field advantage does makes us somewhat invincible.

Now do you know how easy it is to shoot down an Helicopter or WWII type airplanes when you are on top of a mountain top. Very easy as you know the Nég mawon's are still operational and those guys knows mountains, in other words it would be very hard for the Dominican airforce to engage its enemy when they are already station on the mountain tops because in order for the Dominican airforce to effectively hit its target, they would have to fly lower which will bring them to about the same level as the mountain tops, so the down fall to them having to fly lower is any idiot with a rifle can shoot your plane down so you see my child the Dominicans can not defeat the Haitians in a war in their homeland for all those various reasons and then more. But the good news is we Haitians have already invaded your country with our sick and poor and you are virtually defenseless against that attack. HAITI 2 DR 0.

jajajajajajajaja { You guys hate me don't you} Well you should unless you help me reunify the island in a peaceful manner the above would be a very realistic alternative. Will you help me?



jew smoking good stuff men. but jew know it mess with your head after a while. you begin to hillucinate things .


ju should stop while yu ahead.

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can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war!


Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous.




That;s what I've been trying to tell those idiots that want to start a war with Haiti. Yes DR will try to huff and puff but eventually, the UN will end up occupying both sides of the island at the same time. That's all. A FORCED REUNIFICATION again I win because that's what I wanted in the first place.


Yes but, have you asked yourself the question of who will be really on top? Cuz' I assure you that it won't be the Jean Pierre selling skim ice on the avenues. If something, he will be even more down the ladder than before, having to cope not only with the Petionville elite, but also with the one of Los Cacicazgos to add insult to injury, twice despised and stepped upon by all the parties involved. You really must hate your countrymen if you want that scenario to happen that badly.

Hey Dominicanation why this obsession to be Dominican ? I understand you are half, your family may be united but the island not, just be happy with what you are, you can not change 200 years of history overnight, Why so much negative rethoric coming from you ,if you want to be like them. Sound confusing, I understand that you ready to give up your culture, language. I challenge you to open a thread, about that same topic in HaitiXchange, let me know the result.


1) I've said it before and I will say it again "I Dominicanation do not recognize the Dominican Republic as a country but simply a de facto state of Haiti in other words the Dominican Republic is not a country. The only Dominicans I acknowledge are from a small Caribbean island called "DOMINICA"
Thus the name Dominicanation is only of reference to the island of Dominica and not the de facto regime located on the eastern side of the island of "AYITI" Get it?

2) Now as for you LAU: You are truly an idiot if you think that the Dominicans would be on top if ever a forced reunification would take place for the simple fact that we would outnumber you more than you can ever imagine because we already have 2 million of our people living on the other side plus about another 500,000 thousand undercover Haitians. I'm referring to the Dominicans of Haitian descent that are pretending to be Dominicans and most of them do pass as Dominicans at ease in your country and of course you have the 1 million bateyees which are obviously Haitians. Then you will have this one tiny little problem the Haitian diaspora they will then have double citizenship in this new world and with that comes the Black Caucus. While Haiti will gain more devotees the so called Dominicans on the other hand will lose it's die hard supporters i.e. the Rubi's the Carlosfrancos, and the Arky's for these guys would rather move to P-R or Cuba then to share the island with us and that's how you will not be on top Laut.

3) Not only the Dominicans will not be able to fight a guerrilla style warfare with Haiti but psychologically we already have them beaten they won't come out at night because most of the Dominican soldiers will be afraid of Voodoo, you know the Tét sanko, the Baka, the Zombiefication, the Lougarous etc... Because no Dominican soldier would wants to get turned into a cow although you and I can agree that its all BS and that its impossible to turn a human into a cow but tryi telling the Dominican soldiers that. So you see home field advantage does makes us somewhat invincible.

Now do you know how easy it is to shoot down an Helicopter or WWII type airplanes when you are on top of a mountain top. Very easy as you know the Nég mawon's are still operational and those guys knows mountains, in other words it would be very hard for the Dominican airforce to engage its enemy when they are already station on the mountain tops because in order for the Dominican airforce to effectively hit its target, they would have to fly lower which will bring them to about the same level as the mountain tops, so the down fall to them having to fly lower is any idiot with a rifle can shoot your plane down so you see my child the Dominicans can not defeat the Haitians in a war in their homeland for all those various reasons and then more. But the good news is we Haitians have already invaded your country with our sick and poor and you are virtually defenseless against that attack. HAITI 2 DR 0.

jajajajajajajaja { You guys hate me don't you} Well you should unless you help me reunify the island in a peaceful manner the above would be a very realistic alternative. Will you help me?



jew smoking good stuff men. but jew know it mess with your head after a while. you begin to hillucinate things .


ju should stop while yu ahead.



that's some good crack, you do know that if we where at the brink of total lost, that countries like Cuba and Spain would help us. A lot of Dominicans would train in CUba " we have done it before" Spain would have large interest in DR.. 3, we would most likely get help from Chavez too
, we owe him money and he wants it. And killing you ugly people is no problem for him...


the invasion would not work for you Dumb ass, it might lead to people killing everything that's black and moved. GO EAT A DIRT PIE
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can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war!


Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous.




That;s what I've been trying to tell those idiots that want to start a war with Haiti. Yes DR will try to huff and puff but eventually, the UN will end up occupying both sides of the island at the same time. That's all. A FORCED REUNIFICATION again I win because that's what I wanted in the first place.


Yes but, have you asked yourself the question of who will be really on top? Cuz' I assure you that it won't be the Jean Pierre selling skim ice on the avenues. If something, he will be even more down the ladder than before, having to cope not only with the Petionville elite, but also with the one of Los Cacicazgos to add insult to injury, twice despised and stepped upon by all the parties involved. You really must hate your countrymen if you want that scenario to happen that badly.

Hey Dominicanation why this obsession to be Dominican ? I understand you are half, your family may be united but the island not, just be happy with what you are, you can not change 200 years of history overnight, Why so much negative rethoric coming from you ,if you want to be like them. Sound confusing, I understand that you ready to give up your culture, language. I challenge you to open a thread, about that same topic in HaitiXchange, let me know the result.


1) I've said it before and I will say it again "I Dominicanation do not recognize the Dominican Republic as a country but simply a de facto state of Haiti in other words the Dominican Republic is not a country. The only Dominicans I acknowledge are from a small Caribbean island called "DOMINICA"
Thus the name Dominicanation is only of reference to the island of Dominica and not the de facto regime located on the eastern side of the island of "AYITI" Get it?

2) Now as for you LAU: You are truly an idiot if you think that the Dominicans would be on top if ever a forced reunification would take place for the simple fact that we would outnumber you more than you can ever imagine because we already have 2 million of our people living on the other side plus about another 500,000 thousand undercover Haitians. I'm referring to the Dominicans of Haitian descent that are pretending to be Dominicans and most of them do pass as Dominicans at ease in your country and of course you have the 1 million bateyees which are obviously Haitians. Then you will have this one tiny little problem the Haitian diaspora they will then have double citizenship in this new world and with that comes the Black Caucus. While Haiti will gain more devotees the so called Dominicans on the other hand will lose it's die hard supporters i.e. the Rubi's the Carlosfrancos, and the Arky's for these guys would rather move to P-R or Cuba then to share the island with us and that's how you will not be on top Laut.

3) Not only the Dominicans will not be able to fight a guerrilla style warfare with Haiti but psychologically we already have them beaten they won't come out at night because most of the Dominican soldiers will be afraid of Voodoo, you know the Tét sanko, the Baka, the Zombiefication, the Lougarous etc... Because no Dominican soldier would wants to get turned into a cow although you and I can agree that its all BS and that its impossible to turn a human into a cow but tryi telling the Dominican soldiers that. So you see home field advantage does makes us somewhat invincible.

Now do you know how easy it is to shoot down an Helicopter or WWII type airplanes when you are on top of a mountain top. Very easy as you know the Nég mawon's are still operational and those guys knows mountains, in other words it would be very hard for the Dominican airforce to engage its enemy when they are already station on the mountain tops because in order for the Dominican airforce to effectively hit its target, they would have to fly lower which will bring them to about the same level as the mountain tops, so the down fall to them having to fly lower is any idiot with a rifle can shoot your plane down so you see my child the Dominicans can not defeat the Haitians in a war in their homeland for all those various reasons and then more. But the good news is we Haitians have already invaded your country with our sick and poor and you are virtually defenseless against that attack. HAITI 2 DR 0.

jajajajajajajaja { You guys hate me don't you} Well you should unless you help me reunify the island in a peaceful manner the above would be a very realistic alternative. Will you help me?



jew smoking good stuff men. but jew know it mess with your head after a while. you begin to hillucinate things .


ju should stop while yu ahead.



that's some good crack, you do know that if we where at the brink of total lost, that countries like Cuba and Spain would help us. A lot of Dominicans would train in CUba " we have done it before" Spain would have large interest in DR.. 3, we would most likely get help from Chavez too
, we owe him money and he wants it. And killing you ugly people is no problem for him...


the invasion would not work for you Dumb ass, it might lead to people killing everything that's black and moved. GO EAT A DIRT PIE

Lol I can see things are getting ugly
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Kmnupe, I am not “blinded by rhetoric and don't do much reflecting”. You are right when you talk about the case in other places. Every country has its own beats but you are not going to find something like Haiti in the Western Hemisphere.

We do not have as good hospitals, schools, electric system, water supply and other public services as we deserve, but at least we have something (and your people constantly come here trying to get those precarious assets). It is impossible for the powerful classes in Dominican Republic to do what the powerful classes are doing to Haitians in Haiti. Dominicans never (absolutely never) would admit something like that.

The Haitian powerful classes are the most dammed, exploiter, heartless and without conscience power classes in this part of the world. You are not going to find beasts like those around here.

I had talked about our main economic sources: tourism, free zones, remittance and foreign investments. As far as we can see, Haiti’s economic life is supported by drug dealing, kidnapping, smuggling and administrative corruption. We have those problems too but people involved in those illegal activities directly or indirectly are not ruling our country as is the case in Haiti and those are the other beasts I am talking about.

For us it is just impossible to expect the boss of an armed group to say to the President in a meeting in the National Palace that he is not going to hand over his weapons as it happened in Haiti during this administration.

As I said, Haiti has a war right now and it is loosing it. Where are those “guerrilla street fighters” Haitianation said are going to stop us?
Edited on 12/15/2008 3:52 PM by PeRod.
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