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| #71 - Posted 13 December 2008, 7:27 PM | |
 Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 2707  | RE: New Organization Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: dreadlocks previously said: can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war! Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous. If it were on the attacking side, yes. But if the fight boiled down to the barrios over here (Gualey, Guachupita, Los Guandules, etc.), then that´s another story altogether.... I think someone was fucking with me when i was told that US marines avoided Guachupita and went around it, during La Guerra de April... FUNNY SHIT |
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| #72 - Posted 13 December 2008, 7:41 PM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613 | RE: New Organization Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: dreadlocks previously said: can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war! Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous. If it were on the attacking side, yes. But if the fight boiled down to the barrios over here (Gualey, Guachupita, Los Guandules, etc.), then that´s another story altogether.... I think someone was fucking with me when i was told that US marines avoided Guachupita and went around it, during La Guerra de April... FUNNY SHIT Also one have to take into account that, unlike the europeans that tried to subjugate Haiti, the dominican army would not be affected by tropical diseases as those europeans were (in fact, tropical diseases were one of the factors that aided this country on its war against the spaniards on 1865). The scenario would be even, at least on that score. Edited on 12/13/2008 7:41 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #73 - Posted 13 December 2008, 7:55 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613 | RE: New Organization Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: dreadlocks previously said: can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war! Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous. If it were on the attacking side, yes. But if the fight boiled down to the barrios over here (Gualey, Guachupita, Los Guandules, etc.), then that´s another story altogether.... I think someone was fucking with me when i was told that US marines avoided Guachupita and went around it, during La Guerra de April... FUNNY SHIT Regarding the April War, the gringos have to thank God that the constitutionalists decided (foolishly if I might add) to make their stand on the capital city, cuz' had they decided to spread the war to the rest of the country (like the Restauradores did against Spain), then they'll have had a harder time quelling down the insurrection, believe me. Edited on 12/13/2008 7:55 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #74 - Posted 13 December 2008, 7:57 PM | |
 Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2786 | RE: New Organization Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: dreadlocks previously said: can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war! Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous. If it were on the attacking side, yes. But if the fight boiled down to the barrios over here (Gualey, Guachupita, Los Guandules, etc.), then that´s another story altogether.... I think someone was fucking with me when i was told that US marines avoided Guachupita and went around it, during La Guerra de April... FUNNY SHIT Also one have to take into account that, unlike the europeans that tried to subjugate Haiti, the dominican army would not be affected by tropical diseases as those europeans were (in fact, tropical diseases were one of the factors that aided this country on its war against the spaniards on 1865). The scenario would be even, at least on that score. Lat, no doubt the first round will go to the Dominicans, however the question is ? Do you retreat and be consider the loser (ie vietnam) ? or stay to fight an ongoing guerilla war where you can endure serious lost(ie afganistan) therefore. It's a no win situation that should be avoided at all cost. DR have absolutely nothing to gain by starting a war with Haiti for any reasons, the reverse may not be totally true: 1Good luck with the ngo's, 2Public opinion, 3 black caucus, 4Tourism, 5Your hard earn infrastructure Edited on 12/13/2008 8:06 PM by antonioj. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #75 - Posted 13 December 2008, 8:03 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613 | RE: New Organization Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: dreadlocks previously said: can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war! Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous. If it were on the attacking side, yes. But if the fight boiled down to the barrios over here (Gualey, Guachupita, Los Guandules, etc.), then that´s another story altogether.... I think someone was fucking with me when i was told that US marines avoided Guachupita and went around it, during La Guerra de April... FUNNY SHIT Also one have to take into account that, unlike the europeans that tried to subjugate Haiti, the dominican army would not be affected by tropical diseases as those europeans were (in fact, tropical diseases were one of the factors that aided this country on its war against the spaniards on 1865). The scenario would be even, at least on that score. Lat, no doubt the first round will go to the Dominicans however the question is, Do you retreat and be consider the loser (ie vietnam) or stay to fight an ongoing guerilla war where you can endure serious lost(ie afganistan) therefore it's no win situation that should be avoided at all cost. That's a serious point to ponder, I agree with that. The thing that we should all be doing is to demand the western world to drop their hypocrite attitude regarding haitian issues. Why are they so fast when going into helping some african countries when they could start fixing things on this very continent, and a few miles from Florida, no less? They could start by letting the country put in place the same mechanisms that protected its rice production from intl competition, for example. Edited on 12/13/2008 8:10 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #76 - Posted 13 December 2008, 8:11 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2786 | RE: New Organization Think about it Lat, how this will play in the USA ,and around the world the better off bad Dominicans attacking their poor defenceless neighboor, Haitian will again play the victim card, in a twisted strategically way the Haitian may even benefit. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #77 - Posted 13 December 2008, 8:17 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613 | RE: New Organization Quote: antonioj previously said: Think about it Lat, how this will play in the USA ,and around the world the better off bad Dominicans attacking their poor defenceless neighboor, Haitian will again play the victim card, in a twisted strategically way the Haitian may even benefit. The thing that I fear the most is that there are some extremists that will grab at any straws to go for conflict anyway, reasoning that the country have nothing to lose, seeing as it's already being maligned without it really lifting a finger. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #78 - Posted 13 December 2008, 8:31 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2786 | RE: New Organization Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Think about it Lat, how this will play in the USA ,and around the world the better off bad Dominicans attacking their poor defenceless neighboor, Haitian will again play the victim card, in a twisted strategically way the Haitian may even benefit. The thing that I fear the most is that there are some extremists that will grab at any straws to go for conflict anyway, reasoning that the country have nothing to lose, seeing as it's already being maligned without it really lifting a finger. Have you notice how quick, these westerns power were to infuse 4 billion to assist Georgia in rebuilding, 4 years later Haiti still waiting for that 1 billion that was pledged, for a proposed rescue package. I feel like vomitting when the war in Iraq cost 12 billion a MONTH, and a few miles away people are eating mud cookie. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #79 - Posted 13 December 2008, 8:36 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613 | RE: New Organization Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Think about it Lat, how this will play in the USA ,and around the world the better off bad Dominicans attacking their poor defenceless neighboor, Haitian will again play the victim card, in a twisted strategically way the Haitian may even benefit. The thing that I fear the most is that there are some extremists that will grab at any straws to go for conflict anyway, reasoning that the country have nothing to lose, seeing as it's already being maligned without it really lifting a finger. Have you notice how quick, these westerns power were to infuse 4 billion to assist Georgia in rebuilding, 4 years later Haiti still waiting for that 1 billion that was pledged, for a proposed rescue package. I feel like vomitting when the war in Iraq cost 12 billion a MONTH, and a few miles away people are eating mud cookie. The only ones which would profit by a conflict between us are the people from the weapons lobby, which would see a new market open up (as it happened on Ruanda and the Balkans), and the people from the mercenary groups (read Blackwater and co.). Edited on 12/13/2008 8:43 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #80 - Posted 13 December 2008, 9:12 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1313 Posts: 303 | RE: New Organization Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: dreadlocks previously said: can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war! Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous. That;s what I've been trying to tell those idiots that want to start a war with Haiti. Yes DR will try to huff and puff but eventually, the UN will end up occupying both sides of the island at the same time. That's all. A FORCED REUNIFICATION again I win because that's what I wanted in the first place. |
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