| #1 - Posted 13 December 2008, 1:54 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2064 | Have you ever wondered why so many Haitians have Spanish Surnames? And not French Why is that? Yes, I know a lot of Dominicans have French last names. Edited on 1/12/2009 7:39 PM by chillaxin201. |
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| #2 - Posted 13 December 2008, 3:22 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1313 Posts: 303 | RE: Have you ever wondered why so many Haitians have Latin Surnames? And not French Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: Why is that? Okay retard I've had enough of you. READ maybe you might learn something. God Group of related languages derived from Latin, with nearly 920 million native speakers. The major Romance languages — French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, and Romanian — are national languages. French is probably the most internationally significant, but Spanish, the official language of 19 American countries and Spain and Equatorial Guinea, has the most speakers. Languages spoken in smaller areas include Catalan, Occitan, Sardinian, and Rhaeto-Romance. The Romance languages began as dialects of Vulgar Latin, which spread during the Roman occupation of Italy, the Iberian Peninsula, Gaul, and the Balkans and developed into separate languages in the 5th – 9th centuries. Later, European colonial and commercial contacts spread them to the Americas, Africa, and Asia. group of languages belonging to the Italic subfamily of the Indo-European family of languages (see Italic languages). Also called Romanic, they are spoken by about 670 million people in many parts of the world, but chiefly in Europe and the Western Hemisphere. Among the more important Romance languages are Catalan, French, Italian, Portuguese, Occitan, Rhaeto-Romanic, Romanian, and Spanish. The spread of some Romance languages to other parts of the world, especially the Western Hemisphere, accompanied the colonizing and empire-building of the mother countries of these languages, notably Spain, Portugal, and France. All of the Romance languages are descended from Latin (see Latin language and the table entitled Linguistic Relationships among Romance Languages). They are called Romance languages because their parent tongue, Latin, was the language of the Romans. However, the variety of Latin that was their common ancestor was not classical Latin but the spoken or popular language of everyday usage, which is believed to have differed greatly from classical Latin by the time of the Roman Empire. This vernacular, known as Vulgar Latin, was spread by soldiers and colonists throughout the Roman Empire. It superseded the native tongues of certain conquered European peoples, although it was also influenced by their local speech practices and by the linguistic characteristics of colonists and later of invaders. After the fall of the Western Roman Empire there was a degree of regional isolation. Germanic invasions from the north had a further disrupting effect, and Vulgar Latin was thus differentiated into local dialects, which in time evolved into the individual Romance tongues. Because of their common source, the Romance languages have many similar features, both in grammar and vocabulary. The differences between them tend to be phonetical rather than structural or lexical. Even when the Romance languages differ grammatically from Latin, such changes frequently show a shared parallel development from the parent tongue. For example, although Latin had three grammatical genders (masculine, feminine, and neuter), the individual Romance tongues have only two (masculine and feminine). Moreover, all Romance languages except Romanian have discarded the Latin scheme of six different cases for the noun, retaining only one case. As a result, the grammatical relationships of words are clarified chiefly by prepositions and word order instead of by inflections, as in Latin. On the other hand, verbs in the Romance languages have preserved a highly developed conjugational system, inherited from Latin, in which the inflections make clear person and number, tense and mood. See articles on individual languages mentioned. |
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| #3 - Posted 13 December 2008, 4:15 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 1854 | RE: Have you ever wondered why so many Haitians have Latin Surnames? And not French Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: Why is that? CUZZZZ THEY'RE WANNABE.... LIKE HATIANATION HERE |
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| #4 - Posted 13 December 2008, 4:18 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 1854 | RE: Have you ever wondered why so many Haitians have Latin Surnames? And not French Quote: Dominicanation previously said: Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: Why is that? Okay retard I've had enough of you. READ maybe you might learn something. God Group of related languages derived from Latin, with nearly 920 million native speakers. The major Romance languages — French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, and Romanian — are national languages. French is probably the most internationally significant, but Spanish, the official language of 19 American countries and Spain and Equatorial Guinea, has the most speakers. Languages spoken in smaller areas include Catalan, Occitan, Sardinian, and Rhaeto-Romance. The Romance languages began as dialects of Vulgar Latin, which spread during the Roman occupation of Italy, the Iberian Peninsula, Gaul, and the Balkans and developed into separate languages in the 5th – 9th centuries. Later, European colonial and commercial contacts spread them to the Americas, Africa, and Asia. group of languages belonging to the Italic subfamily of the Indo-European family of languages (see Italic languages). Also called Romanic, they are spoken by about 670 million people in many parts of the world, but chiefly in Europe and the Western Hemisphere. Among the more important Romance languages are Catalan, French, Italian, Portuguese, Occitan, Rhaeto-Romanic, Romanian, and Spanish. The spread of some Romance languages to other parts of the world, especially the Western Hemisphere, accompanied the colonizing and empire-building of the mother countries of these languages, notably Spain, Portugal, and France. All of the Romance languages are descended from Latin (see Latin language and the table entitled Linguistic Relationships among Romance Languages). They are called Romance languages because their parent tongue, Latin, was the language of the Romans. However, the variety of Latin that was their common ancestor was not classical Latin but the spoken or popular language of everyday usage, which is believed to have differed greatly from classical Latin by the time of the Roman Empire. This vernacular, known as Vulgar Latin, was spread by soldiers and colonists throughout the Roman Empire. It superseded the native tongues of certain conquered European peoples, although it was also influenced by their local speech practices and by the linguistic characteristics of colonists and later of invaders. After the fall of the Western Roman Empire there was a degree of regional isolation. Germanic invasions from the north had a further disrupting effect, and Vulgar Latin was thus differentiated into local dialects, which in time evolved into the individual Romance tongues. Because of their common source, the Romance languages have many similar features, both in grammar and vocabulary. The differences between them tend to be phonetical rather than structural or lexical. Even when the Romance languages differ grammatically from Latin, such changes frequently show a shared parallel development from the parent tongue. For example, although Latin had three grammatical genders (masculine, feminine, and neuter), the individual Romance tongues have only two (masculine and feminine). Moreover, all Romance languages except Romanian have discarded the Latin scheme of six different cases for the noun, retaining only one case. As a result, the grammatical relationships of words are clarified chiefly by prepositions and word order instead of by inflections, as in Latin. On the other hand, verbs in the Romance languages have preserved a highly developed conjugational system, inherited from Latin, in which the inflections make clear person and number, tense and mood. See articles on individual languages mentioned. You are the master of copying and pasting... Yes we know all that, but regarless there are differences... and i think that the miniute haitians set foot in my country it's rather convinient to say that you are a Guzman, or Rodriguez I.E. In the Spanish world, Franco is a last name, but in Italy it's a name... |
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| #5 - Posted 8 January 2009, 6:08 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2064 | RE: Have you ever wondered why so many Haitians have Latin Surnames? And not French Dominican Nation I asked a question and did not make a statement, but you know this to be true. your a wannabe Dominican. |
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| #6 - Posted 9 January 2009, 9:25 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2008 Member #: 511 Posts: 439 | RE: Have you ever wondered why so many Haitians have Latin Surnames? And not French Con permiso, but aren't most haitian surnames of a french derivative. (Perhaps things have currently changed.) Not so sure if there are "many" haitians with latin surnames? But besides the commonality of the french surname there are some occasional anomolies. And yes, it may be in relation to a mixed heritage or lineage, another rarity. Edited on 1/9/2009 9:31 PM by talia. Dios le bendiga! |
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| #7 - Posted 9 January 2009, 11:45 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: June 2008 Member #: 887 Posts: 1577 | RE: Have you ever wondered why so many Haitians have Latin Surnames? And not French Chillanxin201, Haitians change theirs names when they cross the border and they change the names of their kids too. Usually they have French names in Haiti. I remember a Haitian who saw in a newspaper this name: “Wessin” (actually it is a last name). When asked which was his name he answered Wessin Wessin. Until these days that is his name. I have a Haitian friend with this name: Joslín Dolce, but for everybody he is “Chucho”. Solain Pie changed her name to Sonia Pierre. In Dominican Republic they prefer to use Latin names. (Hola, Talia.) |
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| #8 - Posted 10 January 2009, 1:02 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2064 | RE: Have you ever wondered why so many Haitians have Latin Surnames? And not French Quote: PeRod previously said: Chillanxin201, Haitians change theirs names when they cross the border and they change the names of their kids too. Usually they have French names in Haiti. I remember a Haitian who saw in a newspaper this name: “Wessin” (actually it is a last name). When asked which was his name he answered Wessin Wessin. Until these days that is his name. I have a Haitian friend with this name: Joslín Dolce, but for everybody he is “Chucho”. Solain Pie changed her name to Sonia Pierre. In Dominican Republic they prefer to use Latin names. (Hola, Talia.) Wessin Y wessin , after the General that killed so many Dominicans..... actaully, he is from Lebanon ... Both his parents are from there... I guess that made killing us real Dominicans so easy |
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| #9 - Posted 10 January 2009, 11:39 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Bonao Join date: December 2008 Member #: 1856 Posts: 87 | RE: Have you ever wondered why so many Haitians have Latin Surnames? And not French Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: Quote: PeRod previously said: Chillanxin201, Haitians change theirs names when they cross the border and they change the names of their kids too. Usually they have French names in Haiti. I remember a Haitian who saw in a newspaper this name: “Wessin” (actually it is a last name). When asked which was his name he answered Wessin Wessin. Until these days that is his name. I have a Haitian friend with this name: Joslín Dolce, but for everybody he is “Chucho”. Solain Pie changed her name to Sonia Pierre. In Dominican Republic they prefer to use Latin names. (Hola, Talia.) Wessin Y wessin , after the General that killed so many Dominicans..... actaully, he is from Lebanon ... Both his parents are from there... I guess that made killing us real Dominicans so easy The pastor from our church in Santo Domingo his family are Lebanese, p-lease don't hate them they are not all bad terrorist, just common immigrants " I WAS THANKFULLY BORN ON THE LAND OF DREAMS & ETERNAL BEAUTY, I WILL LIVE HERE, DIE HERE AND MY SOUL WILL REST FOR EVER ON THIS TINY POINT ON THE VAST UNIVERSE " ![]() |
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| #10 - Posted 10 January 2009, 12:40 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 711 Posts: 1440 | RE: Have you ever wondered why so many Haitians have Latin Surnames? And not French Did I miss anything __ She said LATIN surnames like Flavius,Filius,Dubreuis,Dieus and so on. She did not say SPANISH surnames. And the question was just as clumsy.Have you ever wondered why so many Haitians have Latinn Surnames and not French? If she meant Spanish surnames I would have answered that we that a lot of Haitians have Lebanese,Syrian.Palestinian,Jewish,Arab,French,Spanish,German, English surnames jus as Dominicans,Porto Ricans,Jamaicans and so on. Can' t the answer be easily understood ? |
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