Atabey, your little celebration of the economic woes facing Jamaica at this time shows how stupid and low class you are, not to mention brainless. you believe that you are doing me some harm by repetitively posting, on almost a daily basis, the troubles facing the economy there. well, in the first place, it does not bother me, insofar as you might think. what is really troublesome is that there are real people living there, who are the victims of these circumstantial tailspins, and a loser, and lowlife like you finds it to be something to celebrate. did you also throw a party to celebrate the deaths occasioned in HAITI, by the earthquake? how about the Twin Towers? is that on your annual festive calendar?
if you had half a brain, or mind, it would dawn on you that all economies pas through cycles. austerity measures are prescriptions for addressing imbalances in national accounts such as the current account deficit. major European countries, such as Greece, Spain, Italy, and Hungary, are facing equally troubling times. besides, be very careful when you rejoice about what is happening abroad. one good dose of cholera here, and you can kiss the economy goodbye. you better wait until after the elections to keep up trying to ridicule the Jamaican economy, because the DR cannot stand another round of 50 to 1peso devaluations. now, be a man, and go answer my questions about FDI. you are supposed to be an authority, to hear you tell it.

This only shows how long he has been away from this country, cuz' if he were up to date with our way of thinking here, he would know about our belief that it's of bad luck to be rejoicing about the tragedies of others, even if indirectly. In fact, people here have a phrase to use whenever a person is mocking another one's tragedies, and that is: "que en tí se ensuelva", that is, may whatever tragedy befalls your neighbor, it gets to happen to you tenfold, if you're foolish enough to rejoice about it. Another phrase is: "Whenever you see your neighbor's house burn, put your own under watch."

Well, it certainly doesn't feel like it, by the gleeful tone some of your posts have regarding matters over there. And just remember, it isn't only the fact that we aren't out of the woods, but also the fact that we have an even worse basket case just to the side to look out for. Just by the fact that Cuba, Jamaica and Puerto Rico have the entire territory of their islands AT THEIR DISPOSAL, makes them all three to be in an ideal position than we would ever be by default, no matter if their current economic situation might give the illusory image of being otherwise. Unless of course, we were the ones calling the shots on the western part of the island, something which our politicians should be thinking about how to accomplish instead of concentrating in fruitless electoral campaigns.

Agree. Those of us that are still persisting in staying put DT, are really sick and tired of this unending feud between you two. To use country directed ad hominems, is also a cheap shot.
Lautaro is correct, while we Dominicans spend all of the DR budget in getting elected, and dancing around in discolites, caravans, partying daily and drinking to excess, the Haitians quietly keep coming in through the back door, while we sleep our hangover and snooze. Haiti is like a permanent yoke around the DR's neck, that we have to carry 24/7, and it's weight is getting heavier, as time passes.
Haitian trolls and fifth columnists that are doing their "racism" thing, use that label to further their illegal penetration in the DR, and are 21 ST century "carpetbaggers", but this time with a huge black plastic garbage bag, they carry on top of their heads, instead of a "carpetbag".

In the meanwhile, the "activists" working for having the other way around, that is, Haitians being the ones calling the shots here, are being awarded by Washington:

http://espacinsular.org/spip.php?article14656

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Atabey previously said:


You judge me wrong Lautaro. I have never advocated what you state. In fact, I've stated how much I would like to see Jamaica join the DR in correcting its past mistakes and joining the DR in achieving faster economic growth. It is ONLY through strong economic growth and adjusting its anti-growth biases that Jamaica will create better and more job opportunities for its blighted urban communities.

What drives Dready nuts is that for the first Time in DT, he's unable to just put out his one-sided track and consistently attack DR and her people for failures. Remember me taking him to the cleaners on the Beheading of Women debate And his non-sense regarding the young Dominican baseball player who died of bacterial meningitis I've NEVER stated that we, Dominicans, are out of the woods in terms of serious problems But at least we're doing something about it And above all, we get to witness some unabridged information concerning Dready's homeland. We ALSO get to see HIS side of the tracks AND it's FAR from being a pristine and ordered environment And HE can't handle it. Becomes emotional and what not. So there you have it.


Well, it certainly doesn't feel like it, by the gleeful tone some of your posts have regarding matters over there. And just remember, it isn't only the fact that we aren't out of the woods, but also the fact that we have an even worse basket case just to the side to look out for. Just by the fact that Cuba, Jamaica and Puerto Rico have the entire territory of their islands AT THEIR DISPOSAL, makes them all three to be in an ideal position than we would ever be by default, no matter if their current economic situation might give the illusory image of being otherwise. Unless of course, we were the ones calling the shots on the western part of the island, something which our politicians should be thinking about how to accomplish instead of concentrating in fruitless electoral campaigns.






" but also the fact that we have an even worse basket case just to the side to look out for. Just by the fact that Cuba, Jamaica and Puerto Rico have the entire territory of their islands AT THEIR DISPOSAL, makes them all three to be in an ideal position than we would ever be by default, no matter if their current economic situation might give the illusory image of being otherwise."

ALL the more reason for Dready's non-sense to be gored by Dominicans

That salient point about DR having to deal within an island with the POOREST, MOST DESPERATE, "nation-state" of the Western Hemisphere is LOST on O'Dready I've stated it before and you have pointed this FACT out above. Can you or better yet O'Dready even IMAGINE how much better things would operate IF we had sole possession of Hispaniola, like Cuba, Puerto Rico and JAMAICA

Dready talks a big game; he's got none. As with his take on the beheading of a SINGLE Dominican women demonstrated for all those who are impartial, THREE tragic cases happened during the same time in Jamaica. Yet, Dready blasted DR society as some 12th century debauchery So, let's just say that if O'Dready has balanced takes on issues concerning DR, I have no quarrels with him. But if he should try to continue with his "Dominican worse, cup half-full, non-sense" he can expect some unabridged reality checks of hard factual evidence-written by his own countrymen- from his own homeland.

I never had problems with John's criticisms of DR and many others on DT. As foreigners they see some of the hazards and offer criticisms that does not border on "The pot calling the kettle black"

says Atabey

What drives Dready nuts is that for the first Time in DT, he's unable to just put out his one-sided track and consistently attack DR and her people for failures. Remember me taking him to the cleaners on the Beheading of Women debate

the reason this feud continues is that Atabey is liar, a lowlife, and a dirtbag, who has no morals, and no redeeming values. he keeps referring to the beheading issue, when everybody who read the posting i made agree that it was NOT directed to anyone, let alone the DR. but , this guy has no self respect. he has no character, and he has no integrity. he is the epitome of scum, a vile creature with no moral compass, who just lies his way through every day of his miserable, woebegotten existence. i had some bitter wars with Tupapaupa, in the past, but we have resolved them, and there will be no angry words between us in the future, because he has honor. last week, ohhhvictor and i traded some brutal attacks on each other, but we are now on cordial terms, because we sent each other a pm, and realized that we were on a foolish slope. that will never happen between Atabey and i. just like i have met people from this forum , in person, and befriended them, i would never entertain the thought of meeting, and having any kind of cordial relationship with Atabey. if my dead parents ever knew that i agreed to sit in the same room with such a low creature, they would turn in their graves.

in an attempt to set the record straight, here is the exact text of my posting inthe beheading issue, as extracted from the archives

Written by: dreadlocks, 3 Aug 2011 1:32 PM
From: United States
Juango states

This is NOT greed! This is sick, demented activity.

anyone who thinks this is greed motivated needs to have a talk with their psychiatrist. these are demented, amoral, unprincipled animals, who have no business being in schoolrooms. i think i have heard it all. this is savagery to the nth degree. this is not even an act which is remotely human in its nature. i better stop.


i defy Atabey to show me any references to the DR in the narrative. i can expect the douche bag to make some slanderous claim that the text has been altered, but that is not in keeping with my playbook, but with his. i am not the guy with morals issues here

Colloquium

Economic Transformation in Cuba
MONDAY, MAY 21, 2012
8:45 AM – 6:00 PM

The Graduate Center

365 Fifth Avenue (@ 34th Street)

After 2008, the newly installed presidency of Raúl Castro launched several initiatives to revamp the highly centralized form of socialism for which Cuba had been known. Though Cuba’s Actualización draws from other experiences of socialist reform, it appears to be a distinctive approach. The Cuba Project/Bildner Center colloquium puts the new approach in perspective and provides an update on the evolving policies and the structural and institutional changes in progress in 2012. The colloquium closes with a review of policy and research implications.

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Registration: 8:45 AM - 9:05 AM

Session #1: Cuban Updates on Actualización 9:05 AM to 11:35 AM, Room 9206/07 Cuentapropismo y ajuste estructural; Microfinanzas en Cuba; Non-state Enterprises in Cuba: Current Situation and Prospects; Impacto de los lineamientos de la política económica y social en la producción de alimentos

Session # 2: Strategic Initiatives: Agriculture 11:45 AM to 1:00 PM, Room 9206/07 Measuring Cuba's Agricultural Transformations: Preliminary Findings; U.S. Food and Agricultural Exports to Cuba - Uncertain times Ahead

Session # 3: Entrepreneurship and Economic Scenarios 2:00 PM to 3:55 PM, Room 9206/07 Actualización in Perspective; Cuban Restructuring: The Economic Risks; Prospects in a Changing Geo-Economic Environment

Roundtable on Implications and Future Agenda 4:15 PM to 5:45 PM, Room 9204-05 Closing Remarks

Invited speakers from the University of Havana: Omar Everleny Pérez Villanueva; Pavel Vidal; Armando Nova; Camila Piñeiro Harnecker.

Invited speakers from Europe, the United States and Puerto Rico: Emily Morris; Bill Messina; Archibald R. M. Ritter; Mario González Corzo; Mauricio Font.

While some of our panelists will present in Spanish, each panel/session will have Powerpoint outlines in English as well as one presentation in English (with the possible exception of the Panel 1). Moreover, the Q&A will be in both English and Spanish.


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