My "old self"? You Dominicans never ceease to amaze me.

My "old self"? You Dominicans never ceease to amaze me.

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Given the many years he and has family has been in power, I would think he would not care, indeed he has out lived many political leaders who expressed the same opinions you have here, indeed he has lived long enough to defecate on the graves of many of his foes.

is this really Brasilenos speaking, today? what is going on? ok, Mr B. time to go back to your old self. this is just too much for me in one day.
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Sounds like his nom d' plume, is being used by one of his trannie "surrogates" doesn't it? I mean a guy that bragged that he was an ex-marine and worked at the US consulate, now praising Fidel, uhmmmm, something smells here.

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Just honesty.

Under inspired leadership the Cuban state has evolded to be a model for many others.
It has a huge democratic tradition and many of its people say , I am proud to be Cuban,

S. .
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Just honesty.

Under inspired leadership the Cuban state has evolved to be a model for many others [NOT TO ATTEMPT].

It has[EVOLVED] a huge [NEGATIVE] democratic tradition and many of its people say , I am proud to be Cuban[ BUT JUST GET ME OUT OF THERE],

[B]
ABC,

The Place is in shambles[ recently got its FIRST Curry restaurant that's really just part of someone's house -an English transplant and his Cuban wife. With a dreadfully poor economy and very low birth rate with many elderly retiring, the future looks very bleak. Why do you suppose Raul made those comments about Cuba either embracing change or going down the abyss Think it was just for show

Even the new found oil riches will not produce the wonder of plugging the leaking ship As the investments needed are enormous and the benefit has to be shared 50-50 with foreign investors. BTW, capitalist foreign investors.

The only way out for Cuba is an Honest recognition that being soooooooooooo close to the burning Star of the USA necessitates certain Geo-political and strategic considerations. Those considerations might NOT warm the patriotic hearts and minds of many, but they will over time induce much corrective and material progress for the vast majority of the Cuban people. A bitter drink perhaps, but life and politics aren't made of strawberries and creme. Time to adjust sail and gather the strong winds of change from El Norte. The southern winds have died out and not even the Chavez breeze has righted the Cuban ship towards prosperity and a brighter future. [/B]

Atabey

The Place is in shambles


Generoso:

The Cuban people that reside in Cuba, are in a mass state of denial of reality. Although the state has achieved some progress in health and education, although medicines and doctors trained, in less than traditional medicine, are rare and non-existent, and many books are forbidden and internet access is restricted and censored.
The Cuban government supports a huge military and feeds off an imaginary and non-existent invasion threat from the north. The Cuban dogmatic "dream" refuses to wake up and face reality, which is grim. Even China and Viet-Nam have abandoned their old centralized economy planning, and embraced selected economic principles of capitalist societies.
Cuba's leaders are geriatric, senile and out of sync, and they would need at least a generation to "catch up" the rest of the (present) Caribbean, under new and improved leadership, and fresh economic thinking. By then they would be again, a generation behind. The present day military is a force to reckoned with, and they will be an influential player in Cuba's future.
The lifting of the embargo by the US would help, to resuscitate the economy, but it would not be a cure all ills remedy, and certainly not as much as the Cubans, are always crying about and constantly blaming the USA, and all their economic distress on this economic blockade, whose time has passed.

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Atabey

The Place is in shambles[ recently got its FIRST Curry restaurant that's really just part of someone's house -an English transplant and his Cuban wife. With a dreadfully poor economy and very low birth rate with many elderly retiring, the future looks very bleak. Why do you suppose Raul made those comments about Cuba either embracing change or going down the abyss Think it was just for show

Even the new found oil riches will not produce the wonder of plugging the leaking ship As the investments needed are enormous and the benefit has to be shared 50-50 with foreign investors. BTW, capitalist foreign investors.

The only way out for Cuba is an Honest recognition that being soooooooooooo close to the burning Star of the USA necessitates certain Geo-political and strategic considerations. Those considerations might NOT warm the patriotic hearts and minds of many, but they will over time induce much corrective and material progress for the vast majority of the Cuban people. A bitter drink perhaps, but life and politics aren't made of strawberries and creme. Time to adjust sail and gather the strong winds of change from El Norte. The southern winds have died out and not even the Chavez breeze has righted the Cuban ship towards prosperity and a brighter future.


Generoso:

The Cuban people that reside in Cuba, are in a mass state of denial of reality.



Although the state has achieved some progress in health and education, although medicines and doctors trained, in less than traditional medicine, are rare and non-existent, and many books are forbidden and internet access is restricted and censored, the Cuban government supports a huge military and feeds off an imaginary and non-existent invasion threat from the north. The Cuban dogmatic "dream" refuses to wake up and face reality, which is grim. Even China has abandoned their old centralized economy planning, and embraced selected economic principles of capitalist societies.

Cuba's leaders are geriatric, senile and out of sync, and they would need at least a generation to "catch up" the rest of he Caribbean, under new and improved leadership, and fresh economic thinking.

The lifting of the embargo by the US would help, to resuscitate the economy, but it would not be a cure all ills remedy, and certainly not as much as the Cubans, are always crying about and constantly blaming the USA, and all their economic distress on this economic blockade, whose time has passed.

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I don't think that the majority of the Cuban people are in denial Generoso: the defenders of the system inside and ESPECIALLY outside of Cubita are most definitely out of touch with reality. But there are many indications that many Cubans inside Cuba know the deal and have done so for many years now: just check out the outflow from Cuba And if it's true that they will make it easier for Cubans to travel, WATCH OUT The flood gates will open up and perhaps 2 million Cubans will leave the island over the next few years Will some return? Of course some will return and even invest in some businesses and housing, etc. BUT UNTIL THE CUBAN LEADERSHIP embraces the Geo-political and Strategic role of a small state vis-a-vis the Giant of the North her station will remain that of a distant planet in the cold confines of its own making. Cuba's way out is via an ACCOMMODATION with the USA GIANT. Only the USA and her 300 million plus population and wealth can serve to right the Cuban ship after the fiasco of the last 50 plus years of communist Rule in Cuba. The USA has the market to satisfy 10 million plus travelers into Cuba and serve as an investment market for the tens of billions of dollars necessary to modernize the Cuban economy. Such vast sums of capital will only begin to flow into Cuba AFTER AN ACCOMMODATION on the part of the Cuban leadership And the Cuban leadership will not entertain such a moment while Fidel and perhaps, Raul, are still in the picture. So it will be perhaps be another 10 years before we see an ACCOMMODATING stance out of Cuba. And if so, all the problems will just get worse: More precious youth leaving Cuba for better opportunities aboard, more retirees and less young people to support them, more aging infrastructure falling apart and help with bandages.

I do agree with you that the lifting of the Embargo against Cuba will NOT lift the State and Nation out of its doldrums. The militancy of labor will only reawaken and with its anti-growth menace to development-as has happened in almost every single case of rapid modernization. The military will be called on to help maintain Labour Discipline Boy, will that be something to watch And the LEGAL hurdles will be many and painful to get through. There are some people who will leave things as is and not reclaim their prior properties, but there will be many that will want something back. Many painful years remain for Cuba's prosperity and modernization.

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Atabey

The Place is in shambles[ recently got its FIRST Curry restaurant that's really just part of someone's house -an English transplant and his Cuban wife. With a dreadfully poor economy and very low birth rate with many elderly retiring, the future looks very bleak. Why do you suppose Raul made those comments about Cuba either embracing change or going down the abyss Think it was just for show

Even the new found oil riches will not produce the wonder of plugging the leaking ship As the investments needed are enormous and the benefit has to be shared 50-50 with foreign investors. BTW, capitalist foreign investors.

The only way out for Cuba is an Honest recognition that being soooooooooooo close to the burning Star of the USA necessitates certain Geo-political and strategic considerations. Those considerations might NOT warm the patriotic hearts and minds of many, but they will over time induce much corrective and material progress for the vast majority of the Cuban people. A bitter drink perhaps, but life and politics aren't made of strawberries and creme. Time to adjust sail and gather the strong winds of change from El Norte. The southern winds have died out and not even the Chavez breeze has righted the Cuban ship towards prosperity and a brighter future.


Generoso:

The Cuban people that reside in Cuba, are in a mass state of denial of reality.



Although the state has achieved some progress in health and education, although medicines and doctors trained, in less than traditional medicine, are rare and non-existent, and many books are forbidden and internet access is restricted and censored, the Cuban government supports a huge military and feeds off an imaginary and non-existent invasion threat from the north. The Cuban dogmatic "dream" refuses to wake up and face reality, which is grim. Even China has abandoned their old centralized economy planning, and embraced selected economic principles of capitalist societies.

Cuba's leaders are geriatric, senile and out of sync, and they would need at least a generation to "catch up" the rest of he Caribbean, under new and improved leadership, and fresh economic thinking.

The lifting of the embargo by the US would help, to resuscitate the economy, but it would not be a cure all ills remedy, and certainly not as much as the Cubans, are always crying about and constantly blaming the USA, and all their economic distress on this economic blockade, whose time has passed.

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I don't think that the majority of the Cuban people are in denial Generoso: the defenders of the system inside and ESPECIALLY outside of Cubita are most definitely out of touch with reality. But there are many indications that many Cubans inside Cuba know the deal and have done so for many years now: just check out the outflow from Cuba And if it's true that they will make it easier for Cubans to travel, WATCH OUT The flood gates will open up and perhaps 2 million Cubans will leave the island over the next few years Will some return? Of course some will return and even invest in some businesses and housing, etc. BUT UNTIL THE CUBAN LEADERSHIP embraces the Geo-political and Strategic role of a small state vis-a-vis the Giant of the North her station will remain that of a distant planet in the cold confines of its own making. Cuba's way out is via an ACCOMMODATION with the USA GIANT. Only the USA and her 300 million plus population and wealth can serve to right the Cuban ship after the fiasco of the last 50 plus years of communist Rule in Cuba. The USA has the market to satisfy 10 million plus travelers into Cuba and serve as an investment market for the tens of billions of dollars necessary to modernize the Cuban economy. Such vast sums of capital will only begin to flow into Cuba AFTER AN ACCOMMODATION on the part of the Cuban leadership And the Cuban leadership will not entertain such a moment while Fidel and perhaps, Raul, are still in the picture. So it will be perhaps be another 10 years before we see an ACCOMMODATING stance out of Cuba. And if so, all the problems will just get worse: More precious youth leaving Cuba for better opportunities aboard, more retirees and less young people to support them, more aging infrastructure falling apart and help with bandages.

I do agree with you that the lifting of the Embargo against Cuba will NOT lift the State and Nation out of its doldrums. The militancy of labor will only reawaken and with its anti-growth menace to development-as has happened in almost every single case of rapid modernization. The military will be called on to help maintain Labour Discipline Boy, will that be something to watch And the LEGAL hurdles will be many and painful to get through. There are some people who will leave things as is and not reclaim their prior properties, but there will be many that will want something back. Many painful years remain for Cuba's prosperity and modernization.
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Nonsense: Cubas tourism is booking and is at record numbers:


Record number of winter season tourists for Cuba




Published on May 10, 2012

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VILLA CLARA, Cuba (ACN) -- The arrival of over 1,730,000 visitors from December to April is a record for Cuba’s tourist high season in terms of the arrival of foreign travelers.

While inaugurating the 32nd International Tourism Fair, FITCUBA 2012, Tourism Minister Manuel Marrero said that the country has attractive natural resources, along with a historic and cultural legacy.

These attractions bring to the Caribbean island people from Canada, France, Argentina and some other 20 nations, including Germany, Mexico, Venezuela, Holland, Colombia and Brazil.

He highlighted the development of this economic sector in 2011, when important investments were concluded in Varadero, Cayo Coco and Santa Maria, while works are being carried out in Havana, Remedios and Gibara, among some of the places of interest for foreign visitors. Several hotels in the country are being refurbished, such as Havana’s Capri Hotel, he added.

Pablo Aguilera, Secretary for Tourism of the Republic of Argentina, a guest country to the meeting on this occasion, pointed out that there’s a state policy in his country for the development of such an important economic activity.

The Fair, inaugurated on Tuesday, will end on Friday, after exchanges of experiences between officials in this field, travel agents, journalists and airline representatives.


http://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/headline-Record-number-of-winter-season-tourists-for-Cuba-10860.html

In spite of many capitalist influences Vietnam and China have given very little property back to their former capitalist owners. The land belongs to the people.

Trade can take place with Asia, Europe and Russia, Canada, South America etc. There is no need to turn Cuba into another Miami with drugs, gun law, tent cities, slumlords etc.

Cubas Human Development Index is well in advance of other countries in the region.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

Countries lied DR have far lower HDI.

Cuba has far lower HIV/AIDS than the US.

http://www.careresource.org/hivaids/statistics/

The US would like to turn Cuba into another clothing sweat shop for sure.

S.

Changing Cuba: Inside the country's first curry house





http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18034529




12 May 2012 Last updated at 19:06 ET Help

In Havana, a British man and his Cuban wife have opened the Caribbean island's first curry house - and like all privately-owned restaurants, it is run inside the family home.

The family have taken advantage of the opportunities created as the Communist government slowly opens up Cuba's state-controlled economy.

The regime says the increasing amount of limited private enterprise is crucial in helping sustain Cuba's socialist system, and there are now 1618 private restaurants - or paladars - across the country.

Cedric Fernando showed Sarah Rainsford around the Bollywood Indian restaurant.

Dread:

I was shocked too!

More astoundingly, I am in agreement with the 'new and improved?" Brasileno... so I undersstand fully your skepticism!

Discussing the Castro's or the the Revolution objectlvely is rather difficult because of the passion exuded by both the sympathizers and haters... but mostly by the haters, who would soon discard Castro as an evil doer, while simultaneously embrace Trujillo as a Benefactor and even Philanthropist!

There are world factbooks that may show that the Cuban position isnt as dire as some would have you believe.

They all chant that change is coming, which is obvious and similar to the same chant that Fidel is dead, which will eventually be true, but the chanting has been going on for a long time.

what does this mean, in english, Atabey?


The only way out for Cuba is an Honest recognition that being soooooooooooo close to the burning Star of the USA necessitates certain Geo-political and strategic considerations. Those considerations might NOT warm the patriotic hearts and minds of many, but they will over time induce much corrective and material progress for the vast majority of the Cuban people. A bitter drink perhaps, but life and politics aren't made of strawberries and creme. Time to adjust sail and gather the strong winds of change from El Norte. The southern winds have died out and not even the Chavez breeze has righted the Cuban ship towards prosperity and a brighter future.

is this another of your forays into TINA? i should hope not.