| #1 - Posted 17 December 2008, 8:41 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057 | The new Che movie Have you seen it? I took a plane to NYC to see it. |
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| #2 - Posted 17 December 2008, 11:05 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1468 Posts: 34 | RE: The new Che movie I haven't seen it but I plan to. I'm not a fan of Che and I hope this movie doesn't make him out to be some kind of saint. We're talking about a mass murder who wanted to destroy the United States. One hell of a soldier though. Edited on 12/17/2008 11:05 PM by DominicanAmerican. |
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| #3 - Posted 17 December 2008, 11:08 PM | |
Location: United States, New York Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1508 Posts: 382 | RE: The new Che movie Haven't seen it yet but the reviews are good. Apparently it actually portrays him in a positive light. |
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| #4 - Posted 17 December 2008, 11:18 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1984 | RE: The new Che movie Destroy the US? Mass murderer? Look the guy was no saint and I'm not particularly a fan, but let's keep things in perspective here ... he was a killer just like every soldier is a killer. As for the movie I read that it was ~3 hours long and took a pass. If I hear good reviews I'll check it out. Motorcycle Diaries was a passable effort, and it showed the kind of willfully naive idealism that can eventually turn a guy into a dogmatic ideologue. |
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| #5 - Posted 18 December 2008, 2:23 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057 | RE: The new Che movie Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Destroy the US? Mass murderer? Look the guy was no saint and I'm not particularly a fan, but let's keep things in perspective here ... he was a killer just like every soldier is a killer. In my eyes Bush and his cronies are bigger killers, |
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| #6 - Posted 18 December 2008, 2:31 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1984 | RE: The new Che movie Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Destroy the US? Mass murderer? Look the guy was no saint and I'm not particularly a fan, but let's keep things in perspective here ... he was a killer just like every soldier is a killer. In my eyes Bush and his cronies are bigger killers, Might be true because of the difference in scale, but just imagine how many Che could have killed if he ran a nation this large. |
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| #7 - Posted 18 December 2008, 2:34 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057 | RE: The new Che movie Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Destroy the US? Mass murderer? Look the guy was no saint and I'm not particularly a fan, but let's keep things in perspective here ... he was a killer just like every soldier is a killer. As for the movie I read that it was ~3 hours long and took a pass. If I hear good reviews I'll check it out. Motorcycle Diaries was a passable effort, and it showed the kind of willfully naive idealism that can eventually turn a guy into a dogmatic ideologue. The movie was great, we all know that Capitalism is not working. I think to really judge El Che you must see the things that he had seen. His experience, and don't be fooled in a fire fight in Iraq you might kill two or three but at least in the the Cuban revolution it was a just cause. In that war you fought for rights and freedom In Iraq your fighting to make rich people richer...... We all know who are the REAL TERRORIST are, don't we? |
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| #8 - Posted 18 December 2008, 2:41 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057 | RE: The new Che movie Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Destroy the US? Mass murderer? Look the guy was no saint and I'm not particularly a fan, but let's keep things in perspective here ... he was a killer just like every soldier is a killer. In my eyes Bush and his cronies are bigger killers, Might be true because of the difference in scale, but just imagine how many Che could have killed if he ran a nation this large. sounds like your sticking up for Bush, and Che is smarter, wiser, more honest and less of a murderer then Bush will ever be. .. scale what are you talking about? if anything Bush could have done good. At least Che fought his own battles and risked his life, what did bush do? lie and order murder. this is not about what they could have done this is about what they have done... Che killed people, che killed people tthat killed other people. that ordered other people killed. HOW WOUD YOU FREE A COUNTRY FROM A DICTATOR? WITH FLOWER POWER? |
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| #9 - Posted 18 December 2008, 2:51 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1984 | RE: The new Che movie chill for all the sins of greed Bush may have fostered he also fought a murderous dictator, just like Che did. As you have said, he was aiming to kill killers. After 8 years of his shenanigans Bush is also handing power back to his opposition, something that wouldn't have been in Che's playbook. Che killed for political ideals, Bush has his ideals for which people were killed under his watch as well. At least Bush's gang can be gotten rid of though. As for capitalism not working it certainly served the world better than command economy communism. Whatever emerges next I guarantee you it will not be a return to that. |
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| #10 - Posted 18 December 2008, 8:06 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057 | RE: The new Che movie Quote: Manhattanite previously said: chill for all the sins of greed Bush may have fostered he also fought a murderous dictator, just like Che did. As you have said, he was aiming to kill killers. After 8 years of his shenanigans Bush is also handing power back to his opposition, something that wouldn't have been in Che's playbook. Che killed for political ideals, Bush has his ideals for which people were killed under his watch as well. At least Bush's gang can be gotten rid of though. As for capitalism not working it certainly served the world better than command economy communism. Whatever emerges next I guarantee you it will not be a return to that. Bush’s presidency will expire, but we did not get rid of him. The United States constitution does not allow more then two terms, and if he tried it could send the country into a civil war. Congress can override the authority of the president upon the military. And if you add the bailout to what the war has cost us then you’ll see that this thing called Bush has cost the U.S. a lot. The world has advanced not because of capitalism but because it has to. Remember in a socialist society money moves but it moves for the people not just for the elite. Like I said socialism is coming. Look at the big three automakers, they want to eliminate the workers medical benefits. Two of them want the United States government to bail the out. This is stealing in real capitalism; those companies would just go broke. We should not bail them out; they did not even brake even last year. And in true capitalism they would have more investors but anyone with half a brain knows that they just want to bail money so they can sell there stock options and bail out of the company. Edited on 12/18/2008 8:07 PM by chillaxin201. |
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