MS OS created by dregs. Many times EU has charged MS for monopolistic practices. OS is crap, wide open to viruses etc. causing humanity to spend countless millions of hours overcoming defficiencies, a bright twelve year old could have fixed with access to the crap code.
Go Open Source, Linux!
US were surely the evil ones murdering Che!
S.

I am as well. I can't believe people here don't appreciate all that America does for the world and DR.

It isn't easy being a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan getting barely 4 hours of sleep a night and sleeping in the dirt. It isn't easy getting tortured by the Los Zetas in Mexico like some of our CIA agents have. Or freeing hostages from FARC which was a USA led operation. Or tracking down Che when he was trying to create "a hundred Vietnam's."

These are all things that Americans do to help people and protect our interests. And we are willing to pay the price.

Many people view USA people as a bunch of thugs who financed Hitler - then refused to control the tyrant at an early stage. Who were prepared to sacrifice the whole of Europe to neuclear mahem just so their pride was not upset by Cuba.
USA is lucky - a small population sitting on huge natural resources - so what do they do - seal the fate of countries like Bangladesh by ignoring the perils of global warming for a decade or longer. They are thugs who preside over nearly a third of a billion more people going hungry so they can save their agricultural conglomerates, corrupt banks and gas-guzzler makers. And more.
I would be the last person to defend every action by people opposed to the US. But in many instances this opposition springing out of the destitution of refugee camps etc. is understandable.
Yes, the US robs developing countries of expensively trained nurses and doctors etc. because it is too mean to offer the same opportunities to its own people though its archaic and corrupt educational system. Sending money back should be source of disgrace, not pride!
S.

Lesson of the thread; many people cannot see things except in black and white, and these people occur on all sides of the political spectrum. If you can see only the good of US, or if you think US is behind every evil ... it may be time for you to grow up!

In my opinion, probably the best post on the United States i've seen in this thread.

So tell me what part of Jim Jones was a saint? Yes, not every aspect of the US is bad, for example early leaders before corruption set in made some speeches that stand out in the annuls of English Literature. Also some great thinkers - Throreau for example we search after the truth:
Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth. Walden.
So forget the weasels and pine-martins out there gathering nuts for their little empires sitting at the Mad Hatters Tea Party, Search after truth. Actually - now the truth was that the attendees were Dormouse, Cheshire cat, March Hare, White Rabbit, Duchess, Queen of Hearts, Caterpillar, Mad Hatter and the Ace of Hearts. We all give different answers to the riddle of time and other riddles and there is often duality or more: Edgar Allen Poe “wrote on” both the subject of a Raven and “wrote on” a physical writing desk. But the principles that order our World can suffer duality also: It is possible to find people who think themselved lucky to live in Cuba rather than the US or Haiti. So Che has given us important truths! Shooboy stuff I know but when you go further....
S.

NAS- America (2008) +[LYRICS]



SONG: AMERICA

Verse Three starts from the 2:43 mark
Assassinations
Diplomatic relations
Killed indigenous people
Built a new nation
Involuntary labor
Took a knife split a woman naval
Took her premature baby
Let her man see you rape her
If I could travel to the 1700’s
I’d push a wheelbarrow full of dynamite
Through your covenant
Love to sit in on the Senate
And tell the whole government
Y’all don’t treat women fair
She read about herself in the bible
Believing she the reason sin is here
You played her, with an apron
Like bring me my dinner, dear
She the nigger here
Ain’t we in the free world
Death penalty in Texas kill young boys and girls
Barbarity, I’m in the double-R casually
Bugging how I made it out the hood, dazzle me
How far we really from third world savagery
When the empire fall, imagine how crazy that’ll be

Nas - Sly Fox + Lyrics


Sly Fox Lyrics

Intro

So we look at what's going on -- this as an EXTREME aggression, um
I'm also hearing about it from EVERYWHERE!
It's-it's on the islands, it's on the continent, it's here: it's everywhere!
And this is, if you will, a WAR -- An all out assault by...

Verse 1:NaS

The sly fox
Cyclops
We locked
In the idiot box
The video slots
Broadcast
The Waco Davidian plots
They own YouTube, Myspace
When this ignorant shit gon' stop?
They monopolizing news
Your views
And the channel you choose
Propaganda
Visual cancer
The eye
In the sky
Number five
On the dial
secret agenda
Frequency antenna
Doctor mind bender
Remote control
soul
Controller
Your brain holder
Slave culture
Game's over
What's a Fox characteristic?
Slick shit
Sensin'
Misinformation
Pimp the station
Over stimulation
Reception
Deception
Comcast digital Satan
The Fox has a bushy tail
And Bush tells
Lies and Foxtrots
So I don't know what's real

Chorus

Watch what you watchin'
Fox keeps feeding us toxins
Stop sleeping
Start thinking
Outside of the box and
Unplug from The Matrix doctrine
But watch what you say Big Brother is watchin'

Watch what you watchin'
Fox keeps feeding us toxins
Stop sleeping
Start thinking
Outside of the box and
Unplug from The Matrix doctrine
But watch what you say Fox 5 is watchin'

Verse 2:NaS

The Fear Factor got you all rattled up
O' Reilly
Oh really?
No rally needed
I'll tie you up
Network for child predators, settin' 'em up

Myspace pimps, hoes, and sluts
Ya'll exploit rap culture, then ya'll flip on us
And you own the post, and ya'll shit on us
What is they net worth?
They gon' try to censor my next verse?
Throw 'em off the roof neck first
While I'm clicking my cursor
Reading blogs about the pressure they put on Universal
It gets worse while I'm clicking my mouse
While they kickin' my house
They figured us out
Why a nigga go south
It's either he caught a body, no sleep they watchin'!
I watch CBS
And I See B.S.!
Tryin' to track us down with GPS
Make a nigga wanna invest in PBS

Chorus

Watch what you watchin'
Fox keeps feeding us toxins
Stop sleeping
Start thinking
Outside of the box and
Unplug from The Matrix doctrine
But watch what you say Big Brother is watchin'

Watch what you watchin'
Fox keeps feeding us toxins
Stop sleeping
Start thinking
Outside of the box and
Unplug from The Matrix doctrine
But watch what you say Fox 5 is watchin'

Verse 3:Na]

They say I'm all about murder-murder and kill-kill
But what about Grindhouse and Kill Bill?
What about Cheney and Halliburton? Halliburton?
The backdoor deals
On oil fields
How's NaS the most violent person?
Ya'll don't know talent if it hit you
Bringin' up my criminal possession charges with a pistol (pistol)
I use Viacom
As my firearm
And let the lyrics split you
Who do you rely upon?
They shoot shells at Leviathan
I'm dealing with the higher form
Fuck if you care how I write a poem?
Only Fox that I love was the red one
Only black man that Fox loves is in jail or a dead one!
Red rum
Political bedlam
Don't let the hype into your eyes and ear drum
Murdoch on Fox
Not 18 with Barracas
And he hate Barack cause
He march with the marchers

Outro

I pledge allegiance to the fair and balanced truth.
Not the biased truth
Not the liar's truth
But the highest truth
I will not be deceived
nor will I believe
In the Propaganda
I will not fall for the Okey-Doke
I am tuned-in

[NaS]

Watch, cause they're watching
Watch what you're watching

Better watch, cause they're watching
Watch what you're watching

Me-Me-Media
Misleading ya

Watch what you're watching

Immortal Technique- Peruvian Cocaine



"Peruvian Cocaine"
feat. C-Rayz Walz & others

Intro: from the film "Scarface"
Host: I've heard whispers about the financial support
your government receives from the drug industry.

Guest: Well, the irony of this, of course, is that
this money, which is in the billions, is coming from
your country. You see, you are the major purchaser of
our national product, which is of course cocaine.

Host: On one hand, you're saying the United States
government is spending millions of dollars to
eliminate the flow of drugs onto our streets. At the
same time, we are doing business with the very same
government that is flooding our streets with cocaine.

Guest: Mmm-hmm, si, si. Let me show you a few other
characters that are involved in this tragic comedy.

Beat starts

Two Men Speak in Spanish

Immortal Technique - Worker
I'm on the border of Bolivia, working for pennies
Treated like a slave, the coca fields have to be ready
The spirit of my people is starving, broken and sweaty
Dreaming about revolution (REVOLUTION!) looking at my machete
But the workload is too heavy to rise up in arms
And if I ran away, I know they'd probably murder my moms
So I pray to "Jesus Cristo" when I go to the mission
Process the cocaine, paste and play my position

Pumpkinhead - Cocaine Field Boss
OK, listen Juan Valdez, just give me my product
Before we chop off ya hands for worker's misconduct
I got the power to shoot a copper, and not get charged
And it would be sad to see your family in front of a firing squad
So to feed your kids, I need these bricks
40 tons in total, let me test it, indeed I [sniff]
Shit, this is good, pass me a tissue
And don't worry about them, I paid off the officials

Diabolic - Peruvian Leader
Yo, it don't come as a challenge, I'm the son of some of the foulest
Elected by my people...the only one on the ballot
Born and bred to consult with feds, I laugh at fate
And assassinate my predecessor to have his place
In a third-world fascist state, lock the nation
With 90% of the wealth in 10% of the population
The Central Intelligence Agency takes weight faithfully
The finest type of China white and cocaine you'll see

Tonedeff - American Drug Distributor
Honey I'm home, nevermind why our bank account's suddenly grown
It's funny, we're so out of this debt from this money we owe
Would've ya...mind if I told you I had two governments overthrown
To keep our son enrolled in a private school, and to keep ya tummy swollen
C'mon, our fuckin' home was built on the foundation of bloody throats
The hungry stolen of they souls, of course this country's runnin' coke
I took a stunted oath to hush the one's who know
But CIA conducts the flow of these young hustlers who lust for dough

Poison Pen - Drug Dealer
I don't work in the hood Hit my connect
Plus what's really good, they supply for the hood
These dudes fucking crack me up, scrutinize like we inferior
Petrified when we meet in my area calm down
My dude's'll shoot until I say so, got the loot?
Give me the YAY YAY like Ice Cube, so don't play with my llello
We won't stop for you bastards
Must choose ?, chop it and bag it

Loucipher - Undercover Police Officer
Taking pictures and tapping phones
Debating snitches and cracking codes
Past a couple, blast the fo',
Want any hustler stacking dough with probably crack the blow
And my overtime is where your taxes go
I gain your trust
Get you to hand weight to us because we paid up front
On the low with cameras taping ya
Getting pop away? The prison sentence is going to
Make the officer leave with two ki's out the evidence room

C-Rayz Walz - Prison Inmate
Out the evidence room Said with Loucipher
Went my fame, truck, boat or plane, they watching you
You think you got work? They copping too
We control blocks, they lock countries
Ya own companies, we had nice cars and sneaker money
Now there's players out there, talking 'bout the holding
With bugs in they house like they down South with windows open
Your dough ain't long, you wrong, you take shorts and ?
Feds will be up in your mouth...like forks and spoons
So enjoy the rush, live plush off Coke bread
Soon you'll be in a cell with me, like Jenny Lopez
In school, I was a bully, now life is fully a joke
I keep a flow on a boat for Peruvian Coke
Players do favors for governors and tax makers
Fat Quakers smoke crack and sex acts with bad mayors
The walls got ears, you big mouths probably scared
Not prepared to do years like Javier

Immortal Technique Speaking
The story just told is an example of the path that
drugs take on their way to every neighborhood, in
every state of this country. It's a lot deeper than
the niggas on your block. So when they point the
finger at you, brother men, this is what you've got to tell them:

Wesley Snipes - from "New Jack City
I'm not guilty. YOU'RE the one that's guilty. The
lawmakers, the politicians, the Colombian drug lords,
all you who lobby against making drugs legal. Just
like you did with alcohol during the prohibition.
You're the one who's guilty. I mean, c'mon, let's kick
the ballistics here: Ain't no Uzi's made in Harlem.
Not one of us in here owns a poppy field. This thing
is bigger than Immortal Technique. This is big
business. This is the American way.

ood stuff - time2rize. Latest hypocricy from the Nation of God - giving Viagra to Afghan warlords with 3 wives!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7800549.stm
http://www.mtv.com/lyrics/lostprophets/a_town_called_hypocrisy/12763246/lyrics.jhtml
I guess a lot of Americans are leaving their towns called hypocrisy with plastic lifestypes and becoming exiles.
An interesting note on Cuban Rap and criticism of neo-liberal economics.
Tecnologi´a controlando el gusto de tu mente,
eres esclavo del producto como mucha gente.
El arti´culo y su marca no se desmarca,
el eslogan que la firma domina y abarca.
Hermanos de Causa
http://dragon.soc.qc.cuny.edu/Staff/fernandes_files/consumerism.pdf
S.