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#1 - Posted 12 June 2012, 8:07 AM
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EU Airline Tax grab
Just another way for left wing technocrats to get more control and more $$$. OF course this WILL HURT the Tourism Industry.

One of the few times I actually agree with China.

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(Reuters) - China will take swift counter-measures that could include impounding European aircraft if the European Union punishes Chinese airlines for non-compliance with a scheme to curb carbon emissions, the China Air Transport Association said on Tuesday.

Chinese airlines, which have been told by Beijing not to comply with the EU's Emissions Trading Scheme, refused to meet a March 31 deadline for submitting carbon emissions data.

EU Climate Commissioner Connie Hedegaard has said carriers have until mid-June to submit their data before enforcement action is taken.

"Chinese airlines are unanimous on this. We won't provide the data," Wei Zhenzhong, secretary general of the China Air Transport Association, said on the sidelines of an International Air Transport Association (IATA) meeting in Beijing.

The Chinese group represents major airlines there, including the big three state-controlled carriers Air China, China Southern Airlines, and China Eastern Airlines.

"The government at least will take the same kind of measures and these anti-sanction moves will be lasting," Wei said.

However he said: "We would try to avoid any trade war."

A raft of countries including China, India, Russia and the United States have protested against the inclusion of all flights using EU airports into the emissions scheme.

"It's not about the money. It's an issue of sovereignty," said Paul Steele, IATA's director of aviation environment.

The EU plans to charge airlines a fee for their carbon emissions based on the quantity of carbon calculated for complete flights with an EU origin or destination, rather than just the portion flown over Europe.

Critics say this amounts to interference with national airspace.

The EU has delegated implementation of the scheme to member states, which would fine airlines for non-compliance.

If the airlines do not pay the fine, other theoretical EU counter-measures include impounding aircraft, IATA's Steele said.

Under the EU plan, Germany will determine whether Air China is in breach of ETS regulations or not; France will monitor China Southern Airlines; and the Netherlands will monitor China Eastern Airlines.

"We would not like to see a situation of 'you hold up my planes and I hold yours'," Wei said.

China, which according to Airbus and other sources in the European aerospace industry is delaying plane orders worth up to $14 billion from European planemaker Airbus over the row, has asked the EU to push the scheme back by a year.

"ICAO (the International Civil Aviation Organization) will hold its 38th meeting in October 2013, and the EU should at least push the deadline to that time and agree to resolve this issue based on the coordination of ICAO," Wei said.

(Reporting by Alison Leung; Editing by Daniel Magnowski)


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/12/us-iata-china-emissions-idUSBRE85B09W20120612
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#2 - Posted 12 June 2012, 9:18 AM
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Just another way for left wing technocrats to get more control and more $$$. OF course this WILL HURT the Tourism Industry.

One of the few times I actually agree with China.

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(Reuters) - China will take swift counter-measures that could include impounding European aircraft if the European Union punishes Chinese airlines for non-compliance with a scheme to curb carbon emissions, the China Air Transport Association said on Tuesday.

Chinese airlines, which have been told by Beijing not to comply with the EU's Emissions Trading Scheme, refused to meet a March 31 deadline for submitting carbon emissions data.

EU Climate Commissioner Connie Hedegaard has said carriers have until mid-June to submit their data before enforcement action is taken.

"Chinese airlines are unanimous on this. We won't provide the data," Wei Zhenzhong, secretary general of the China Air Transport Association, said on the sidelines of an International Air Transport Association (IATA) meeting in Beijing.

The Chinese group represents major airlines there, including the big three state-controlled carriers Air China, China Southern Airlines, and China Eastern Airlines.

"The government at least will take the same kind of measures and these anti-sanction moves will be lasting," Wei said.

However he said: "We would try to avoid any trade war."

A raft of countries including China, India, Russia and the United States have protested against the inclusion of all flights using EU airports into the emissions scheme.

"It's not about the money. It's an issue of sovereignty," said Paul Steele, IATA's director of aviation environment.

The EU plans to charge airlines a fee for their carbon emissions based on the quantity of carbon calculated for complete flights with an EU origin or destination, rather than just the portion flown over Europe.

Critics say this amounts to interference with national airspace.

The EU has delegated implementation of the scheme to member states, which would fine airlines for non-compliance.

If the airlines do not pay the fine, other theoretical EU counter-measures include impounding aircraft, IATA's Steele said.

Under the EU plan, Germany will determine whether Air China is in breach of ETS regulations or not; France will monitor China Southern Airlines; and the Netherlands will monitor China Eastern Airlines.

"We would not like to see a situation of 'you hold up my planes and I hold yours'," Wei said.

China, which according to Airbus and other sources in the European aerospace industry is delaying plane orders worth up to $14 billion from European planemaker Airbus over the row, has asked the EU to push the scheme back by a year.

"ICAO (the International Civil Aviation Organization) will hold its 38th meeting in October 2013, and the EU should at least push the deadline to that time and agree to resolve this issue based on the coordination of ICAO," Wei said.

(Reporting by Alison Leung; Editing by Daniel Magnowski)


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/12/us-iata-china-emissions-idUSBRE85B09W20120612



This carbon emission crap is going to turn into one of the biggest scams of our time.
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#3 - Posted 12 June 2012, 10:28 AM
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This carbon emission crap is going to turn into one of the biggest scams of our time.



It already is!
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#4 - Posted 12 June 2012, 5:18 PM
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This carbon emission crap is going to turn into one of the biggest scams of our time.



It already is!



Now that sounds like something interesting. I remember when bottled water first came out and how much of a novelty it was. People were actually paying for stuff they could get for free out of the faucett.
I remember some one said, "what are they going to do next figure out a way to charge you for air."

Well I dont think they have been able to market any product that comes close, nevertheless, I see now how hard they are trying to collect money for dirty air. I don't think the powerful airline industry will allow it to happen, but if they fail, the general public might be the next one in line.
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#5 - Posted 21 June 2012, 9:24 AM
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Carbon tax is good idea!

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anthonyC previously said:

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cibaeño75 previously said:


This carbon emission crap is going to turn into one of the biggest scams of our time.



It already is!



Now that sounds like something interesting. I remember when bottled water first came out and how much of a novelty it was. People were actually paying for stuff they could get for free out of the faucett.
I remember some one said, "what are they going to do next figure out a way to charge you for air."

Well I dont think they have been able to market any product that comes close, nevertheless, I see now how hard they are trying to collect money for dirty air. I don't think the powerful airline industry will allow it to happen, but if they fail, the general public might be the next one in line.

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