#1 - Posted 18 December 2008, 2:57 PM
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Sticks and Stones
Or a Hidden Agenda?

It's baffling how comments on daily articles and forum threads are utilized by "the usual suspects" to defame or distort "our" heritage, and frankly "our" people as a whole. These "usual suspects" routinely hover around Dominican Today as if they were affected parties in our affairs.
They are mostly:

  • ET's: Extra Territorials----------Not of Dominican origin.

    NN's: Non-Native-----------------Not of Dominican nationality or partial to our issues.

    Enigmas: Either Spam-Bots or Lunatics.

    Provocateurs: Their sole purpose is to denigrate our character & create disharmony.


Of all the above the most harmful to our interests are "The Provocateurs" (who have an axe to grind), whose main goal for camping out at DT is to destroy our image, and weaken morale. These "Provocateurs" are the same ones that perpetrate being pollitically correct, yet, they squeal and whine when a patriot-poster defends our cause, when he corrects their bombastic distortions of "our" issues, or when their impressions and opinions are burst like a bubble.

Some of the distortions that can be categorized as "Sticks and Stones" may be encountered while viewing any topic. You might stumble upon the constant occurences of unfounded vulgarity, out-right aggression, and mean-spirit (mala fe) while reading comments about any DT article.

Where do these people get offf slinging all this mud on our people?
Why belabor the issue?
Why such tenacity? Let it go, for goodness sakes.
Why go out of your way with this prolonged "smear campaign"?

We've stumbled upon, come face to face with, and encountered quite a variety of characters who are Hell-Bent on blowing up "our" spot.

My conclusion is that several of these personalities are ignorant, have no place to vent their pent-up frustrations, and basically have a HIDDEN AGENDA behind their morbid motives.

No one can argue "every topic" when it's not their concern? Unless the intent is to sling Sticks and Stones, and place obstacles in the midst of Dominicanos, Dominicanas, Quisqueyanos exchaging their ideas. These obstacles are obstruction to the freee exchange of thoughts between the brethren.

I believe that Dominican Today is a forum for our peoples, La Familia en general, to promote "our" identity, "our" history. At the same time to promote the beauty of our tropical patria, our little piece of sovereign land. DT promotes Real Estate, pristine Golf courses, splendid beaches. I also believe that this is an outstanding venue to express our common hopes, and our aspirations. But still, some nefarious chronic posters have "gotten" into the habit of insulting our idiosynchracies.

How do they get away with it? Beats me!
But, when I come accross a potty mouth provocateur, you can be sure I will rectify 'em.

How can anyone allow the type of smut that is slung upon "US" on many threads here?
The Sticks and Stones are definitely out-of-place, here. If we stray off the topic, why must we always wind up in the mud?

I'm for political correctness; But, I'm also for calling a spade a spade. Yo si soy Domincano, serie Palito, de Villa nacido y criado en La Capital. I'm no joke! Skip the dumb stuff. My people come first, comprende. Not going to the back of the bus, or shutting up for no foreigner.

HIDDEN AGENDAS................"Watch the Closing Doors"
Step lively!
Next, stop 137 st. City College (Want to take up some Dominican Studies classes)

Enough with the frat boy humor!
Not at the expense of our people.

If you don't know who we are? You better ask somebody!
****Trucutu mañana? Tomorrow, mañana for you?****
Just say not to cyberanonymity!


Dios, Patria y Libertad.
Maranatha,
The King is coming.



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#2 - Posted 18 December 2008, 4:11 PM
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you are an old fool with a distorted sense of patriotism as well as some kind of cultist fanatic ....please keep it to yourself
lets get ready to RUUMMMMMMBBBLLLEE
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#3 - Posted 18 December 2008, 4:54 PM
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RE: Sticks and Stones
Quote:
ArsenioALembertJr previously said:

Or a Hidden Agenda?

It's baffling how comments on daily articles and forum threads are utilized by "the usual suspects" to defame or distort "our" heritage, and frankly "our" people as a whole. These "usual suspects" routinely hover around Dominican Today as if they were affected parties in our affairs.
They are mostly:

  • ET's: Extra Territorials----------Not of Dominican origin.

    NN's: Non-Native-----------------Not of Dominican nationality or partial to our issues.

    Enigmas: Either Spam-Bots or Lunatics.

    Provocateurs: Their sole purpose is to denigrate our character & create disharmony.


Of all the above the most harmful to our interests are "The Provocateurs" (who have an axe to grind), whose main goal for camping out at DT is to destroy our image, and weaken morale. These "Provocateurs" are the same ones that perpetrate being pollitically correct, yet, they squeal and whine when a patriot-poster defends our cause, when he corrects their bombastic distortions of "our" issues, or when their impressions and opinions are burst like a bubble.

Some of the distortions that can be categorized as "Sticks and Stones" may be encountered while viewing any topic. You might stumble upon the constant occurences of unfounded vulgarity, out-right aggression, and mean-spirit (mala fe) while reading comments about any DT article.

Where do these people get offf slinging all this mud on our people?
Why belabor the issue?
Why such tenacity? Let it go, for goodness sakes.
Why go out of your way with this prolonged "smear campaign"?

We've stumbled upon, come face to face with, and encountered quite a variety of characters who are Hell-Bent on blowing up "our" spot.

My conclusion is that several of these personalities are ignorant, have no place to vent their pent-up frustrations, and basically have a HIDDEN AGENDA behind their morbid motives.

No one can argue "every topic" when it's not their concern? Unless the intent is to sling Sticks and Stones, and place obstacles in the midst of Dominicanos, Dominicanas, Quisqueyanos exchaging their ideas. These obstacles are obstruction to the freee exchange of thoughts between the brethren.

I believe that Dominican Today is a forum for our peoples, La Familia en general, to promote "our" identity, "our" history. At the same time to promote the beauty of our tropical patria, our little piece of sovereign land. DT promotes Real Estate, pristine Golf courses, splendid beaches. I also believe that this is an outstanding venue to express our common hopes, and our aspirations. But still, some nefarious chronic posters have "gotten" into the habit of insulting our idiosynchracies.

How do they get away with it? Beats me!
But, when I come accross a potty mouth provocateur, you can be sure I will rectify 'em.

How can anyone allow the type of smut that is slung upon "US" on many threads here?
The Sticks and Stones are definitely out-of-place, here. If we stray off the topic, why must we always wind up in the mud?

I'm for political correctness; But, I'm also for calling a spade a spade. Yo si soy Domincano, serie Palito, de Villa nacido y criado en La Capital. I'm no joke! Skip the dumb stuff. My people come first, comprende. Not going to the back of the bus, or shutting up for no foreigner.

HIDDEN AGENDAS................"Watch the Closing Doors"
Step lively!
Next, stop 137 st. City College (Want to take up some Dominican Studies classes)

Enough with the frat boy humor!
Not at the expense of our people.

If you don't know who we are? You better ask somebody!
****Trucutu mañana? Tomorrow, mañana for you?****

READ MY LIPS "GO TO HELL"
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#4 - Posted 18 December 2008, 7:55 PM
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RE: Sticks and Stones
ArsenioLambertJr, Said
Or a Hidden Agenda?

It's baffling how comments on daily articles and forum threads are utilized by "the usual suspects" to defame or distort "our" heritage, and frankly "our" people as a whole. These "usual suspects" routinely hover around Dominican Today as if they were affected parties in our affairs.
They are mostly:

  • ET's: Extra Territorials----------Not of Dominican origin.

    NN's: Non-Native-----------------Not of Dominican nationality or partial to our issues.

    Enigmas: Either Spam-Bots or Lunatics.

    Provocateurs: Their sole purpose is to denigrate our character & create disharmony.


Of all the above the most harmful to our interests are "The Provocateurs" (who have an axe to grind), whose main goal for camping out at DT is to destroy our image, and weaken morale. These "Provocateurs" are the same ones that perpetrate being pollitically correct, yet, they squeal and whine when a patriot-poster defends our cause, when he corrects their bombastic distortions of "our" issues, or when their impressions and opinions are burst like a bubble.

Some of the distortions that can be categorized as "Sticks and Stones" may be encountered while viewing any topic. You might stumble upon the constant occurences of unfounded vulgarity, out-right aggression, and mean-spirit (mala fe) while reading comments about any DT article.

Where do these people get offf slinging all this mud on our people?
Why belabor the issue?
Why such tenacity? Let it go, for goodness sakes.
Why go out of your way with this prolonged "smear campaign"?

We've stumbled upon, come face to face with, and encountered quite a variety of characters who are Hell-Bent on blowing up "our" spot.

My conclusion is that several of these personalities are ignorant, have no place to vent their pent-up frustrations, and basically have a HIDDEN AGENDA behind their morbid motives.

No one can argue "every topic" when it's not their concern? Unless the intent is to sling Sticks and Stones, and place obstacles in the midst of Dominicanos, Dominicanas, Quisqueyanos exchaging their ideas. These obstacles are obstruction to the freee exchange of thoughts between the brethren.

I believe that Dominican Today is a forum for our peoples, La Familia en general, to promote "our" identity, "our" history. At the same time to promote the beauty of our tropical patria, our little piece of sovereign land. DT promotes Real Estate, pristine Golf courses, splendid beaches. I also believe that this is an outstanding venue to express our common hopes, and our aspirations. But still, some nefarious chronic posters have "gotten" into the habit of insulting our idiosynchracies.

How do they get away with it? Beats me!
But, when I come accross a potty mouth provocateur, you can be sure I will rectify 'em.

How can anyone allow the type of smut that is slung upon "US" on many threads here?
The Sticks and Stones are definitely out-of-place, here. If we stray off the topic, why must we always wind up in the mud?

I'm for political correctness; But, I'm also for calling a spade a spade. Yo si soy Domincano, serie Palito, de Villa nacido y criado en La Capital. I'm no joke! Skip the dumb stuff. My people come first, comprende. Not going to the back of the bus, or shutting up for no foreigner.

HIDDEN AGENDAS................"Watch the Closing Doors"
Step lively!
Next, stop 137 st. City College (Want to take up some Dominican Studies classes)

Enough with the frat boy humor!
Not at the expense of our people.

If you don't know who we are? You better ask somebody!
****Trucutu mañana? Tomorrow, mañana for you?****

Arkatype, Said You're Correct!
You are the light of truth ARKATYPE
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#5 - Posted 18 December 2008, 8:16 PM
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RE: Sticks and Stones
Quote:
ArsenioALembertJr previously said:

Or a Hidden Agenda?

It's baffling how comments on daily articles and forum threads are utilized by "the usual suspects" to defame or distort "our" heritage, and frankly "our" people as a whole. These "usual suspects" routinely hover around Dominican Today as if they were affected parties in our affairs.
They are mostly:

  • ET's: Extra Territorials----------Not of Dominican origin.

    NN's: Non-Native-----------------Not of Dominican nationality or partial to our issues.

    Enigmas: Either Spam-Bots or Lunatics.

    Provocateurs: Their sole purpose is to denigrate our character & create disharmony.


Of all the above the most harmful to our interests are "The Provocateurs" (who have an axe to grind), whose main goal for camping out at DT is to destroy our image, and weaken morale. These "Provocateurs" are the same ones that perpetrate being pollitically correct, yet, they squeal and whine when a patriot-poster defends our cause, when he corrects their bombastic distortions of "our" issues, or when their impressions and opinions are burst like a bubble.

Some of the distortions that can be categorized as "Sticks and Stones" may be encountered while viewing any topic. You might stumble upon the constant occurences of unfounded vulgarity, out-right aggression, and mean-spirit (mala fe) while reading comments about any DT article.

Where do these people get offf slinging all this mud on our people?
Why belabor the issue?
Why such tenacity? Let it go, for goodness sakes.
Why go out of your way with this prolonged "smear campaign"?

We've stumbled upon, come face to face with, and encountered quite a variety of characters who are Hell-Bent on blowing up "our" spot.

My conclusion is that several of these personalities are ignorant, have no place to vent their pent-up frustrations, and basically have a HIDDEN AGENDA behind their morbid motives.

No one can argue "every topic" when it's not their concern? Unless the intent is to sling Sticks and Stones, and place obstacles in the midst of Dominicanos, Dominicanas, Quisqueyanos exchaging their ideas. These obstacles are obstruction to the freee exchange of thoughts between the brethren.

I believe that Dominican Today is a forum for our peoples, La Familia en general, to promote "our" identity, "our" history. At the same time to promote the beauty of our tropical patria, our little piece of sovereign land. DT promotes Real Estate, pristine Golf courses, splendid beaches. I also believe that this is an outstanding venue to express our common hopes, and our aspirations. But still, some nefarious chronic posters have "gotten" into the habit of insulting our idiosynchracies.

How do they get away with it? Beats me!
But, when I come accross a potty mouth provocateur, you can be sure I will rectify 'em.

How can anyone allow the type of smut that is slung upon "US" on many threads here?
The Sticks and Stones are definitely out-of-place, here. If we stray off the topic, why must we always wind up in the mud?

I'm for political correctness; But, I'm also for calling a spade a spade. Yo si soy Domincano, serie Palito, de Villa nacido y criado en La Capital. I'm no joke! Skip the dumb stuff. My people come first, comprende. Not going to the back of the bus, or shutting up for no foreigner.

HIDDEN AGENDAS................"Watch the Closing Doors"
Step lively!
Next, stop 137 st. City College (Want to take up some Dominican Studies classes)

Enough with the frat boy humor!
Not at the expense of our people.

If you don't know who we are? You better ask somebody!
****Trucutu mañana? Tomorrow, mañana for you?****

You are very correct , however much of the problems also lies in maturity and character of individuals. I believe that the best remedy for obstinate individuals is just to ignore them. If you try to curtail their vulgarity they will label you as a censor, a commie or whatever their simple sophomoric mentality can conjure up at that specific moment.




So, you don't like what's happening in DR....

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#6 - Posted 19 December 2008, 2:04 PM
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RE: Sticks and Stones
Normally I would have let this thread go but upon further thought I decided to reply. None of you know me but let me provide you with a short synopsis of why I am here and why some of the others are as well. Before venturing on my own way in business I worked with a multi-national firm that coincidentaly will be opening shop in the DR soon if it has not already happened. During my tenure with them I had the opportunity to work in many locations around the globe and my area of expertise was and still is Latin America and the Caribbean. I did a market study in the DR as one of my tasks. That entailed several trips of multi week stays not in Punta Cana but in economic hotels in Santo Domingo eating in local restaurants and dealing with government agencies looking for a partner, vendors, suppliers etc. Having lived and worked in Venezuela, Colombia, St. Croix, Puerto Rico and Trinidad among others I am accostomed to the "Latin culture and work ethic" and yes to the "Way of getting things done" So if you believe that corruption within government, local agencies, Customs officials and other areas is OK and you can live with that so be it and you have a right to call us out for being outspoken. With that being said I have a few questions;

Is being born Dominican but living now in the US better or worse than being born elsewhere and now living in the Dominican Republic ?

Does it make you more insightful living elsewhere and commenting about your country than someone who is currently living there and commenting about it?

When I lived and worked in St. Croix I actually knew GouletCcolonial and by sheer happenstance found him here, and yes he lives in the DR as does ABC, Gringo1, PuntacanaMike, TexasBill and others. Seems to me the beef you have about ET's commenting on the state of Dominican affairs are about the same folks who live there.

Arseniso states-"I believe that Dominican Today is a forum for our peoples, La Familia en general, to promote "our" identity, "our" history. At the same time to promote the beauty of our tropical patria, our little piece of sovereign land. DT promotes Real Estate, pristine Golf courses, splendid beaches. I also believe that this is an outstanding venue to express our common hopes, and our aspirations. But still, some nefarious chronic posters have "gotten" into the habit of insulting our idiosynchracies"

Unless you have never been anywhere else every culture has its idiosynchracies, some good some not so good it is like beauty, in the eye of the beholder. It has been my experience throughout the Caribbean that in general the beaches are all beautiful and there are would class golf courses on a multitude of other islands. National Pride is a great thing but can sometime leads to blindness because of frustrations with others. I have Dominican friends here in Houston and when we go out they don the white shoes and belt- I dont get it, but they like it no skin off of my nose. I believe that the statement of immaturity is quite uncalled for and whats up with "destroy our image, and weaken morale" when the same newspapers inside your country post the headlines of goverment officials voting themselves huge chritmas bonuses that are not allowed to do, non compliance by government officials about disclosure forms in order to recieve pay, brother-in law deals that go bad, mass murder of drug dealers and missing drugs and money with the implied bad guys being current Navy and army officers, police commanders etc.. Destruction of image is taking place all by itself without our help. And as far as DT being "our place", it touts itself as the First English speaking newspaper for the DR, and by being online whoever wishes to sign up. If the Dominicans in general allow this to happen over and over again without trying to bring change to their own country, who will?
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#7 - Posted 19 December 2008, 2:06 PM
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At least I know where my allegiances belong. Unlike some others such as you, Gourmet Imperial.
You Manitoba Moron with a penchant for other people's property OPP!
Get a snowmobile or something, tap some maple, or get a dog sled and loose yourself in the Yukon;
But, stop perpetrating frauds. You pathetic patsy yellow jounalist invader flunkie!

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#8 - Posted 19 December 2008, 2:09 PM
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Edited on 6/17/2009 2:56 PM by cibaeño75.
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#9 - Posted 19 December 2008, 2:20 PM
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Besides the stealing of electricty so long it becoms a right, or blocking a main highway in huelga, because your mad at parking rates at the airport 50 miles away, General jealousness of what you neighbor just bought-she must be selling herself or in general chismes to destroy another persons reputation to make you feel better about yourself. Those are real common threads in all LA countries.

Another common thread is the fact most of the ground is so fertile you throw a seed on top of it and a plant grows, yet they barely produce enough for themselves and have to import food and when they do start a farm the same neighbors steal from them or make sure they dont turn a profit.
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#10 - Posted 19 December 2008, 2:24 PM
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RE: Sticks and Stones
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ArsenioALembertJr previously said:

At least I know where my allegiances belong. Unlike some others such as you, Gourmet Imperial.
You Manitoba Moron with a penchant for other people's property OPP!
Get a snowmobile or something, tap some maple, or get a dog sled and loose yourself in the Yukon;
But, stop perpetrating frauds. You pathetic patsy yellow jounalist invader flunkie!

And to the lip reader:
Go to H....

very funny Arsenio....reflect on your paranoia...all this cult stuff is a cry for help...next time I speak with Cardinal Nicky I will have him pray for you
lets get ready to RUUMMMMMMBBBLLLEE
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