gouletcolonial previously said:


YES emphatically and you envy the Cubans as well.....you got a big complex...

CarlosFranco previously said:


And other groups carved out a space for Cuban and Puerto Ricans... And i don't see them thanking anyone, and them expect for us to kiss their ass !!

The Irish and Italians made way for Catholics... The Blacks made way for people of color... Mexicans, Cuban, Ricans... for Dominicans, Colombians, Central American.... And the latter groups will make way for another group... and ROUND AND ROUND WE GO!!

devin11 previously said:

Written by: CarlosFranco

"Yeah Devin... these are all great things... but how does this translate to being a leader, for the sake of argument, in the Dominican community. You've been here the longest and have made contribution but how does that made the puerto ricans speak for all hispanics???? Are we too dumb that we can't be leaders and we need you to do it for us? Aren't Dominicans, Cubans and Mexicans and all other hundreth of nationalities in this country own their own??? If am going to say thank you to anyone, i would say it to Martin Luther King Jr.

My response was an appropriate response to GC's comment "of all hispanics ENVYING puerto rico," not one made out of ignorance, but out of reality, or do you really think that i envy you?"


Carlos, My response to you was not in any agreement with the GC comment of Puerto Rican envy or any such thing and no, I don't think you or anyone should envy me. I would not have responded to you at all if your response to GC would have been "nobody needs to envy Puerto Rico" or even if you said "the Dominican Republic is the most enviable country in the world". Either of those two comments would not have elicited a single response from me. My response was to your comment of "Puerto Ricans not having made a lasting contribution that speak for all Hispanics in the last 100 years" which is laughable and disavowal. I will respectfully, without asking you to read slowly or using any other insulting preposition, that's your communicative charm, explain to you how.

Dominicans, Mexicans, Cubans, Panamenians, Puerto Ricans, Ecuadorians etc., see and embrace the differences in themselves and their prospective cultures, idiosyncrasies and social realities. To Americans, there is no difference, none at all. To the overwhelming majority of Americans, there is no difference between a Rodriguez from DR, PR, Ecuador or anywhere else in Latin America or the Carribbean Basin. The root cause is that Latin American and Carribbean historical studies are not part of the American Educational Curriculum, except to some small degree in the Collegiate or Graduate levels of education. As such, the very significant achievements by Puerto Ricans in the US have been shared by all Hispanics in that those achievements were filed in the minds of most Americans as Hispanic and not Puerto Rican achievements. When Pedro Albizu Campos graduated from Harvard as the first Hispanic student do you think that if a Dominican or Cuban applied afterwards, they were turned down because only Puerto Ricans have proven they can graduate from Harvard? Of course not it was seen as proof that Hispanics can be successful in the most regarded institutes of higher learning within the US and that all qualified Hispanics could apply. The accomplishments that I listed where not cited as a form of grandstanding but they do "speak thunderously" for all Hispanic people because it is proof that if given the opportunity, Hispanic people can be successful in any endeavor which had up to that point not been attainable. I don't understand how you can not see those vast achievements as a lasting contribution that has spoken loudly for all Hispanics over the last 100 years. I don't expect you nor anybody else for that matter to feel any gratitude or be expected to kiss anybody's ass as you so crudely remarked, I know, I know, you have a bad temper. I do not however, expect you to say that the contributions were voiceless and of no meaning or benefit to other Hispanic groups.

devin11 previously said:

Written by: CarlosFranco

"Yeah Devin... these are all great things... but how does this translate to being a leader, for the sake of argument, in the Dominican community. You've been here the longest and have made contribution but how does that made the puerto ricans speak for all hispanics???? Are we too dumb that we can't be leaders and we need you to do it for us? Aren't Dominicans, Cubans and Mexicans and all other hundreth of nationalities in this country own their own??? If am going to say thank you to anyone, i would say it to Martin Luther King Jr.

My response was an appropriate response to GC's comment "of all hispanics ENVYING puerto rico," not one made out of ignorance, but out of reality, or do you really think that i envy you?"


Carlos, My response to you was not in any agreement with the GC comment of Puerto Rican envy or any such thing and no, I don't think you or anyone should envy me. I would not have responded to you at all if your response to GC would have been "nobody needs to envy Puerto Rico" or even if you said "the Dominican Republic is the most enviable country in the world". Either of those two comments would not have elicited a single response from me. My response was to your comment of "Puerto Ricans not having made a lasting contribution that speak for all Hispanics in the last 100 years" which is laughable and disavowal. I will respectfully, without asking you to read slowly or using any other insulting preposition, that's your communicative charm, explain to you how.

Dominicans, Mexicans, Cubans, Panamenians, Puerto Ricans, Ecuadorians etc., see and embrace the differences in themselves and their prospective cultures, idiosyncrasies and social realities. To Americans, there is no difference, none at all. To the overwhelming majority of Americans, there is no difference between a Rodriguez from DR, PR, Ecuador or anywhere else in Latin America or the Carribbean Basin. The root cause is that Latin American and Carribbean historical studies are not part of the American Educational Curriculum, except to some small degree in the Collegiate or Graduate levels of education. As such, the very significant achievements by Puerto Ricans in the US have been shared by all Hispanics in that those achievements were filed in the minds of most Americans as Hispanic, not Puerto Rican. When Pedro Albizu Campos graduated from Harvard as the first Hispanic student do you think that if a Dominican or Cuban applied afterwards, they were turned down because only Puerto Ricans have proven they can graduate from Harvard? Of course not, it was seen as proof that Hispanics can be successful in the most regarded institutes of higher learning within the US and that all qualified Hispanics could apply. The accomplishments that I listed where not cited as a form of grandstanding but that they do "speak thunderously" for all Hispanic people because it speaks as proof to the American consciousness and the world over that if given the opportunity, Hispanic people can be successful in any endeavor which had up to that point not been attainable. I don't understand how you can not see those vast achievements as a lasting contribution that has spoken loudly for all Hispanics over the last 100 years. I don't expect you nor anybody else for that matter to feel any gratitude or be expected to kiss anybody's ass as you so crudely remarked, I know, I know, you have a bad temper. I do not however, expect you to say that the contributions were voiceless and of no meaning or benefit to other Hispanic groups.

gouletcolonial previously said:

Excellent devin ....you completely understand ...the Boricuas did much of the heavy lifting in America for all Hispanics and along with Mexican Americans have left a larger footprint ....it would be good for all if Puerto Rico became a state.....I am neither Puerto Rican or Mexican or Cuban