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The above is a wonderful illustration of why the west is doomed. You do not understand Islam. And you actually think we can talk them out of Jihad when theirKoran teache that the whole world MUST become Islamic, including you, or DIE.

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How did I miss this one?

Christians teach that all should follow Jesus Christ and atone, otherwise, face eternal damnation.

William, can I call you William?

Are you f*cken with us? Hey, it's ok, I love me some jokes.



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Ok, so who is going to be the first to rip into me for some jokes? Before you do please remember:

1. If they were Christian jokes they would be OK and no liberal would complain
2. The freedom to make fun does not exist in Islamic countries,only in the freedom loving west and in Iraq (for now)




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Cabarete:

I dont think anyone will complain about jokes.... jokes and humor have no regulations... Sam Kinison made a caree out of that.. there are irish jokes., polish jokes, dominican jokes adn the best dutch jokes..... and I dont know for a fact that , but I thionk that you're strethcing a bit when you say that there is no freedom to make fun in Islam... I know a few muslims and they make fun !! in fact, there was a muslimm comedy tour......

But I am relieved to find out thar your unsusbstatianted defense of Bush and his cronies was a joke all along !! whew!! YOu had me going there for a while!! hahahha!!

HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!!

Camaradas: (en particular Cibao y Kmnupe):

Y le vamos a dar el gustaso al holandes ese , en franco acto de carnada para irritarnos???

no ombe no!

Es risorio la manera en que evitan un desarrollo a plentiud de las premisas lanzadas!!

But it was his way of telling us that he is wrong !!! OF course, he'll probably deny it!

poor , sad, dutch treat . william, for a guy who is so semi literate, you should be very careful about slinging insults. now, mr knowledgeable, show me, in print, one reference to an executive order REVERSING THE BAN ON PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION. yes, give me the link to the article. i defy you. as i said before, any issue on partial birth abortion would have to be resolved in congress. i do not need a lesson on american governance from a cretin , least of all one who cannot reach a satisfactory level of reading comprehension. what Obama reversed, by executive order, was the Mexico Accord, which has to do with funding of abortions abroad. next time you cannot understand what you read, ask your dog to help you; i am sure he is the more intelligent of the two of you.

do your own research! Obama signed it!

you are a despicable , loathsome coward. you make an accusation you cannot substantiate. really sensible and intelligent people are quick to disclose their sources. it is only idiots, who are completely mistaken, that tell people childish crap like "go do your own research" i already did, and can find it nowhere. so, i ask you again, show me the article in writing. there is nothing lower than people who slander others just to make a point. in your case, to win an argument. you are a LOSER!!

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama on Friday struck down the Bush administration's ban on giving federal money to international groups that perform abortions or provide abortion information — an inflammatory policy that has bounced in and out of law for the past quarter-century. Obama's executive order, the latest in an aggressive first week reversing contentious Bush policies, was warmly welcomed by liberal groups and denounced by abortion rights foes.

The ban has been a political football between Democratic and Republican administrations since GOP President Ronald Reagan first adopted it 1984. Democrat Bill Clinton ended the ban in 1993, but Republican George W. Bush re-instituted it in 2001 as one of his first acts in office.

A White House spokesman, Bill Burton, said Obama signed the executive order, without coverage by the media, late on Friday afternoon. The abortion measure is a highly emotional one for many people, and the quiet signing was in contrast to the televised coverage of Obama's Wednesday announcement on ethics rules and Thursday signing of orders on closing the Guantanamo Bay prison camp and banning torture in the questioning of terror suspects.

His action came one day after the 36th anniversary of the landmark Supreme Court ruling in Roe v. Wade that legalized abortion.

The Bush policy had banned U.S. taxpayer money, usually in the form of Agency for International Development funds, from going to international family planning groups that either offer abortions or provide information, counseling or referrals about abortion as a family planning method.

But Obama's record on abortion is extreme. He opposed the ban on partial-birth abortion -- a practice a fellow Democrat, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, once called "too close to infanticide." Obama strongly criticized the Supreme Court decision upholding the partial-birth ban. In the Illinois state Senate, he opposed a bill similar to the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which prevents the killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion. And now Obama has oddly claimed that he would not want his daughters to be "punished with a baby" because of a crisis pregnancy -- hardly a welcoming attitude toward new life.

Abortion is an unavoidable moral issue. It also has broader political significance. Democrats of a past generation -- the generation of Hubert Humphrey and Martin Luther King Jr. -- spoke about building a beloved community that cared especially for the elderly, the weak, the disadvantaged and the young.

Having endorsed partial-birth abortion, Obama has little room to maneuver on the broader issue.

not so fast, william. the words PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN, please. am i to surmise that you either cannot read, comprehend, or both? who do you think you are dealing with? you believe that you can run some Rush Limbaugh half-truth past me? you better come better than this; you are looking pretty weak right about now.

William,


Are you the guy who approached me near Sosua beach to try to scam me into some Real Estate?

You posting here is like handing someone a business card after cussing them out.


Hope you know what I mean.

Obama signed the executive order canceling the eight-year-old restrictions on Friday, the third day of his presidency.

In an interview published Saturday in the Italian daily Corriere della Sera, the President of the Pontifical Academy for Life, Archbishop Rino Fisichella said that "among the many good things that he could have done, Barack Obama instead has chosen the worst."

"What is important is to know how to listen... without locking oneself into ideological visions with the arrogance of a person who, having the power, thinks they can decide on life and death," he added.

"If this is one of the first acts of President Obama, with all due respect, it seems to me that the path towards disappointment will have been very short," Archbishop Fisichella said.

He concluded by pointing out that "I do not believe that those who voted for him (Obama) took into consideration ethical themes, which were astutely left aside during the election debate. The majority of the American population does not take the same position as the president and his team."

Another Vatican official, Archbishop Elio Sgreccia, joined Fisichella in his criticism to Obama’s pro-abortion decision.

Although retired as former President of the Pontifical Academy for Life, Sgreccia's is still one of the most sought after opinions on bioethical issues in the Roma Curia.

"This deals a harsh blow not only to us Catholics but to all the people across the world that fight against the slaughter of innocents that is carried out with abortion," Sgreccia told the Italian news agency ANSA .




Note: the executive order signed by Obama included lifting theban on partial birth abortions.

Why are you so freaked out? It is what for years he said he would do (under wraps) so why the surprise?