| #21 - Posted 22 January 2009, 10:55 AM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: January 2008 Member #: 283 Posts: 417 | RE: Bye bye George W., SEE YA!!! Quote: PeRod previously said: You can say a lot of thing about Mr. Bush, but you have to admit that all these years he kept his country safe (now we will see what happen with Mr. Obama in charge). I believe that we will have less enemies because Pres. Obama is in power. Some of our politicians are always trumpeting that we are hated because WE stand for freedom, BS. We're reviled because of our arrogant leaders and their imperialist policies and also because of some Americans' behavior when they visit , serve or live abroad. |
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| #22 - Posted 22 January 2009, 11:43 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555 | RE: Bye bye George W., SEE YA!!! Quote: dreadlocks previously said: Georgie Boy, do not let the door hit you in the ass! make sure you take everything. we do not want you coming back, knocking on Barack's door on Saturday morning, saying you forgot your encyclopaedia. Not one attack on USA soil since Bush took the war to he TERRORISTS! Obama will give the Guatanamo killers all a bug hug and send them back to attack again....what a fool! And with the USA facing huge debts, Obama has "change" in mind....SPEND MORE! Trillions more...now that is more of the same! William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com |
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| #23 - Posted 22 January 2009, 12:17 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: June 2008 Member #: 887 Posts: 1577 | RE: Bye bye George W., SEE YA!!! Cibaeño75, excuse me. I supposed that it was obvious that I was talking about the period after the terrorist attack on September 11. And yes, “it's been thoroughly documented that [you] as a nation… were led into war based on lies” (I think the right word is “misinformation”, nobody did it on purpose) but Saddam Husseim in power was a nightmare for United States and a lot of Americans (and I mean a lot) are alive and safe because he is dead (perhaps even you, my dear friend). He was supporting any attack against the first power in the world with billions in his hands. It was imperative to do something. Perhaps you did not like it, but actually something was done. As you can see, I am looking for the other options. Edited on 1/22/2009 1:08 PM by PeRod. |
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| #24 - Posted 22 January 2009, 12:27 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 4107 | RE: Bye bye George W., SEE YA!!! Quote: PeRod previously said: Cibaeño75, excuse me. I supposed that it was obvious that I was talking about the period after the terrorist attack on September 11. And yes, “it's been thoroughly documented that [you] as a nation… were led into war based on lies” (I think the right word is “misinformation”, nobody did it on purpose) but Saddam Husseim in power was a nightmare for United States and a lot of Americans (and I mean a lot) are alive and safe because he is dead (perhaps even you, my dear friend). He was supporting any attack against the first power in the world with billions in his hands. It was imperative to do something. Perhaps you did not like, but actually something was done. As you can see, I am looking for the other options. Show me documentation from a legitimate news agency that cites Saddam as financially supporting possible terrorist attacks on American soil. I can save you the trouble by telling you off hand that you'll find no such thing. Even Bush himself admitted publicly that there was no link between Al-Qaeda and Saddam's regime. If Saddam couidn't defeat the Iranians after some ten odd years and with DOCUMENTED U S help in the Iraqi war effor against Iran what makes you think he was any viable threat to the greatest military power in recorded history? There are much more dangerous despots in the world today but yet we haven't toppled them by force(North Korea comes to mind, a nation which ACTUALLY tested a WMD as opposed to not having any at all such as was the case with Iraq) so the argument that the US is in the dictator toppling business is nonsense. If you study Saddam's regime you would see how he was actually propped up by earlier administrations. Again, there'a ample documentation of all this. I doubt very much that Saddam was any type of threat to my person and I find it incredible that their are still people that would believe such a thing. "Don't ask me who's influenced me. A lion is made up of the lambs he's digested, and I've been reading all my life."-Charles de Gaulle |
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| #25 - Posted 22 January 2009, 12:28 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555 | RE: Bye bye George W., SEE YA!!! Quote: PeRod previously said: Cibaeño75, excuse me. I supposed that it was obvious that I was talking about the period after the terrorist attack on September 11. And yes, “it's been thoroughly documented that [you] as a nation… were led into war based on lies” (I think the right word is “misinformation”, nobody did it on purpose) but Saddam Husseim in power was a nightmare for United States and a lot of Americans (and I mean a lot) are alive and safe because he is dead (perhaps even you, my dear friend). He was supporting any attack against the first power in the world with billions in his hands. It was imperative to do something. Perhaps you did not like, but actually something was done. As you can see, I am looking for the other options. Saddam was the WMD, he killed millions, the Iraq war was just and necessary. So is quatanamo bay- it is because USA is christian based that the prison is there- if they were Islamic there would be no prison, they would just cut their heads of and put it on video! William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com |
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| #26 - Posted 22 January 2009, 12:31 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 4107 | RE: Bye bye George W., SEE YA!!! Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: dreadlocks previously said: Georgie Boy, do not let the door hit you in the ass! make sure you take everything. we do not want you coming back, knocking on Barack's door on Saturday morning, saying you forgot your encyclopaedia. Not one attack on USA soil since Bush took the war to he TERRORISTS! Obama will give the Guatanamo killers all a bug hug and send them back to attack again....what a fool! And with the USA facing huge debts, Obama has "change" in mind....SPEND MORE! Trillions more...now that is more of the same! Did you ever stop to consider that one of the primary reasons why the US is so deep in debt is because of the unprovoked Iraq war started by the Bush administration? Again, Bush himself has stated that there WAS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN AL-QAEDA AND SADDAM so I don't see how he was bringing it to the terrorists by attacking Iraq. Bush has even stated publicly that there were no WMDs in Iraq, the primary reason given for the invasion. "Don't ask me who's influenced me. A lion is made up of the lambs he's digested, and I've been reading all my life."-Charles de Gaulle |
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| #27 - Posted 22 January 2009, 12:37 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 4107 | RE: Bye bye George W., SEE YA!!! Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: PeRod previously said: Cibaeño75, excuse me. I supposed that it was obvious that I was talking about the period after the terrorist attack on September 11. And yes, “it's been thoroughly documented that [you] as a nation… were led into war based on lies” (I think the right word is “misinformation”, nobody did it on purpose) but Saddam Husseim in power was a nightmare for United States and a lot of Americans (and I mean a lot) are alive and safe because he is dead (perhaps even you, my dear friend). He was supporting any attack against the first power in the world with billions in his hands. It was imperative to do something. Perhaps you did not like, but actually something was done. As you can see, I am looking for the other options. Saddam was the WMD, he killed millions, the Iraq war was just and necessary. So is quatanamo bay- it is because USA is christian based that the prison is there- if they were Islamic there would be no prison, they would just cut their heads of and put it on video! Even if another regime would cut of someone's head and put it on video your justifying the undermining of the liberties that make this country great by basically saying that we have to become like our enemy in order to defeat them. That's an insane argument. You obviously buy the line that "they hate us for our freedoms" yet you support undermining those very freedoms. I don't see the logic in all that. Alas, Saddam was a mass murderer but I suggest that you study his regime in detail so as to learn exactly where it was that he was recieving such things as the conventional and biological weapons that he would use on his neighbors and on his own people. Edited on 1/22/2009 12:49 PM by cibaeño75. "Don't ask me who's influenced me. A lion is made up of the lambs he's digested, and I've been reading all my life."-Charles de Gaulle |
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| #28 - Posted 22 January 2009, 12:41 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1698 | RE: Bye bye George W., SEE YA!!! US was too naive about this war. At least when empires are self-conscious and know themselves to be empires they can make explicit cases for war in the name of economic interests or simply in the name of might and self-confidence (ex. US vs. Spain way back). Since US Americans are so uncomfortable with naked empire-management the Iraq war was justified with a jumbled collage of ideologies and fear-mongering that could not hold up public opinion even with very minimal casualties. Worse still, the actual economic value to be had by taking Iraq is very questionable. We were already 'taking it to the terrorists' in Afghanistan. Also while we regroup our forces we are in a weakened position as regards Iran and the region's scariest powder keg Pakistan. So this foolish military adventure has done bad damage to the US empire. This is Bush's big shortcoming and why he will go down as a middle of the road, mediocre Pres. Edited on 1/22/2009 12:42 PM by Manhattanite. |
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| #29 - Posted 22 January 2009, 12:53 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555 | RE: Bye bye George W., SEE YA!!! Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: PeRod previously said: Cibaeño75, excuse me. I supposed that it was obvious that I was talking about the period after the terrorist attack on September 11. And yes, “it's been thoroughly documented that [you] as a nation… were led into war based on lies” (I think the right word is “misinformation”, nobody did it on purpose) but Saddam Husseim in power was a nightmare for United States and a lot of Americans (and I mean a lot) are alive and safe because he is dead (perhaps even you, my dear friend). He was supporting any attack against the first power in the world with billions in his hands. It was imperative to do something. Perhaps you did not like, but actually something was done. As you can see, I am looking for the other options. Saddam was the WMD, he killed millions, the Iraq war was just and necessary. So is quatanamo bay- it is because USA is christian based that the prison is there- if they were Islamic there would be no prison, they would just cut their heads of and put it on video! Even if another regime would cut of someone's head and put it on video your justifying the undermining of the liberties that make this country great by basically saying that we have to become like our enemy in order to defeat them. That's an insane argument. You obviously by the line that "they hate us for our freedoms" yet you support undermining those very freedoms. I don't see the logic in all that. Alas, Saddam was a mass murderer but I suggest that you study his regime in detail so as to learn exactly where it was that he was recieving such things as the conventional and biological weapons that he would use on his neighbors and on his own people. No, amigo, it is because we support freedom that we put terrorists in prison! Get it? Gee, people are so nieve. Unprovoked? I remember 3000 dead in one day and the guy behind it is in guatanamo! Let us hug him and say sorry and send him back to his training camp! That is the Obama liberal answer. And Saddam was paying $25,000 to every family of the terrorist bombers of Israel's babies and women! America does nto have an Empire, but I thank God they sacrifce their lives and money to protect the freedom loving world....for now. After Obama....who knows..... William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com |
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| #30 - Posted 22 January 2009, 1:27 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 4107 | RE: Bye bye George W., SEE YA!!! Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: PeRod previously said: Cibaeño75, excuse me. I supposed that it was obvious that I was talking about the period after the terrorist attack on September 11. And yes, “it's been thoroughly documented that [you] as a nation… were led into war based on lies” (I think the right word is “misinformation”, nobody did it on purpose) but Saddam Husseim in power was a nightmare for United States and a lot of Americans (and I mean a lot) are alive and safe because he is dead (perhaps even you, my dear friend). He was supporting any attack against the first power in the world with billions in his hands. It was imperative to do something. Perhaps you did not like, but actually something was done. As you can see, I am looking for the other options. Saddam was the WMD, he killed millions, the Iraq war was just and necessary. So is quatanamo bay- it is because USA is christian based that the prison is there- if they were Islamic there would be no prison, they would just cut their heads of and put it on video! Even if another regime would cut of someone's head and put it on video your justifying the undermining of the liberties that make this country great by basically saying that we have to become like our enemy in order to defeat them. That's an insane argument. You obviously by the line that "they hate us for our freedoms" yet you support undermining those very freedoms. I don't see the logic in all that. Alas, Saddam was a mass murderer but I suggest that you study his regime in detail so as to learn exactly where it was that he was recieving such things as the conventional and biological weapons that he would use on his neighbors and on his own people. No, amigo, it is because we support freedom that we put terrorists in prison! Get it? Gee, people are so nieve. Unprovoked? I remember 3000 dead in one day and the guy behind it is in guatanamo! Let us hug him and say sorry and send him back to his training camp! That is the Obama liberal answer. And Saddam was paying $25,000 to every family of the terrorist bombers of Israel's babies and women! America does nto have an Empire, but I thank God they sacrifce their lives and money to protect the freedom loving world....for now. After Obama....who knows..... LOL You're calling me naive. I see that you do not recall how it was that the Iraq war was sold to the American people. I can clearly tell you. We were told that there were WMDs that proved to be non-existant. I see I have to keep repeating this truth to you. As for the 25000 for terrorists who bomb Isrealis find me a credible source that states as much. You're on here spreading falsehoods. Saddam offered that exact amount, $25, 000, to every palestinian who had his home destroyed in Jenin by the IDF back in 2002 and that's the only instance where that amount being offered by Saddam comes up in credible news sources. Again, the CIA, the president's own intelligence apparatus, under Bush himself has stated that the Iraq conflict has fanned the flames of terrorists the world over and THAT THERE WAS NO AL-QAEDA IN IRAQ BEFORE WE INVADED. Al-qaeda in Iraq is the result of our invasion. You can look that up. "Don't ask me who's influenced me. A lion is made up of the lambs he's digested, and I've been reading all my life."-Charles de Gaulle |
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