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#81 - Posted 29 January 2009, 1:59 PM
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Have you read this?
“It's also likely Mr. Obama will declare terrorists to be prisoners of war under the Geneva Conventions. The Bush administration classified terrorists -- well supported by legal and historical precedent -- like pirates, illegal combatants who do not fight on behalf of a nation and refuse to obey the laws of war.
The CIA must now conduct interrogations according to the rules of the Army Field Manual, which prohibits coercive techniques, threats and promises, and the good-cop bad-cop routines used in police stations throughout America. Mr. Obama has also ordered that al Qaeda leaders are to be protected from "outrages on personal dignity" and "humiliating and degrading treatment" in accord with the Geneva Conventions. His new order amounts to requiring -- on penalty of prosecution -- that CIA interrogators be polite. Coercive measures are unwisely banned with no exceptions, regardless of the danger confronting the country.
Eliminating the Bush system will mean that we will get no more information from captured al Qaeda terrorists. Every prisoner will have the right to a lawyer (which they will surely demand), the right to remain silent, and the right to a speedy trial.”
Then there is no difference between someone stealing a bank and someone destroying two towers with two planes full of passengers.
Can you see where this thing is going to end?
If one of you lose your life or lose the life of a very important person for you (and I am being very, very serious about this) and then ask: How did this happen? You only have to remember these days.
Edited on 1/29/2009 2:26 PM by PeRod.
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#82 - Posted 29 January 2009, 2:06 PM
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The above is a wonderful illustration of why the west is doomed. You do not understand Islam. And you actually think we can talk them out of Jihad when theirKoran teache that the whole world MUST become Islamic, including you, or DIE.




How did I miss this one?

Christians teach that all should follow Jesus Christ and atone, otherwise, face eternal damnation.

William, can I call you William?

Are you f*cken with us? Hey, it's ok, I love me some jokes.



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#83 - Posted 29 January 2009, 2:22 PM
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Kmnupe, my dear friend, remember Marx (Karl, you know). Everybody wants to export the “right” way for a society as everybody see that right way.
Castro wants “his” revolution. He wants Cuba to be like he desires. He is not asking anybody how Cuba should be (Cubans included); he perfectly knows what he has to do. He even knows how the United States of America should be too.
It is impossible, just impossible not to have a confrontation with a leader like this one if you are complete outside from what “he” thinks is right.
To have enemies is something normal and in the near future (even perhaps during a century) it is going to be so.
Now we have the European Union. Well, do you know how many times those countries have sustained wars?
To leave in peace is a process and you need to let chemistry do its work.
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#84 - Posted 29 January 2009, 2:31 PM
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cabaretewilliam, you are as intellectually dishonest as you are clueless/ when did Obama sign into law that full term abortions are now legal? do you think that the usa is some banana republic? a matter like that would be drawn out in the congress for months, and end up at the supreme court for decision. do you think he is the dictator of america? and nice try; evoking images of horrors which transpired years ago, and trying a sleight of hand trick to associate him with it. as Cibaeno pleads; Go, and go now.




Fact: One of the first Obamam executive orders was reversing the Bush ban on partial birth killings. You really shouldtake a basic Grade school level course on how the USA is governed. Congress& Courts not needed for executive orders. Look it up.


Jan. 27
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The White House has sacked the pro-life administrator for the USAID foreign assistance program so the agency can begin implementing President Barack Obama's pro-abortion policies. The move follows Obama rescinding the Mexico City Policy to allow taxpayer funding of groups that promote abortions overseas.

Today, the White House announced that it has it has replaced Kent Hill, the acting Administrator of USAID under President Bush.

Hill has been replaced with Alonzo Fulgham, the Chief Operating Officer and Executive Secretary of the agency and will head up the Office of the Administrator of USAID until a permanent successor is named.

Hill had been a friend of the pro-life movement in overseeing the Mexico City Policy.

He held weekly phone calls with Rep. Chris Smith, the leading pro-life Congressman who has fought for limits on international abortion funding. Hill also worked closely with Austin Ruse, the president of the Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute, a pro-life group that lobbies at the United Nations.

Meanwhile, the USAID office issued a statement Monday indicating that it is implementing the reversal of the Mexico City Policy.

"USAID is implementing this change immediately and issued an official notice informing its field offices worldwide," the agency said in the statement LifeNews.com obtained. "Additional specific guidance for USAID agreements officers will be issued later today."

"His announcement directed USAID to immediately waive the policy's conditions in any current grants; notify current grantees, as soon as possible, that these conditions have been waived; and cease imposing these conditions in any future grants," the agency said.

That means USAID will immediately send notice to Planned Parenthood and Marie Stopes International, two abortion businesses that refused to comply with the previous rules under President Bush restricting foreign aid to non-abortion activities, that they are now eligible for funding.

The agency said it is "strongly committed to achieving" Obama's goals of shifting family planning dollars to groups that promote and perform abortions and said it supported repealing the pro-life protections.

"Repealing the Mexico City Policy will help improve the lives of mothers and children through increased access to family planning services and supplies," it claimed.

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- On Friday, President Barack Obama rescinded the Mexico City Policy, a Bush protection that preventing forcing taxpayers to finance groups that promote or perform abortions overseas. On Saturday, the president issued the statement that accompanied the executive order.

Obama claims the Mexico City Policy somehow stood in the way of funding family planning efforts, even though the policy only prevented family planning dollars from going to pro-abortion groups.

"It is clear that the provisions of the Mexico City Policy are unnecessarily broad and unwarranted under current law, and for the past eight years, they have undermined efforts to promote safe and effective voluntary family planning in developing countries," he said.

Obama also cast his decision to fund international abortions and abortion efforts as a way to find common ground in the abortion debate.

"For too long, international family planning assistance has been used as a political wedge issue, the subject of a back and forth debate that has served only to divide us," Obama said. "I have no desire to continue this stale and fruitless debate."

"It is time that we end the politicization of this issue. In the coming weeks, my Administration will initiate a fresh conversation on family planning, working to find areas of common ground to best meet the needs of women and families at home and around the world," he said.

But for the majority of Americans who take a pro-life position on abortion and oppose funding abortion efforts with public money, the debate will continue.

Tony Perkins, the head of the Family Research Council said pro-life advocates will look to restore the policy should they regain control of either the White House or Congress.

Perkins also accused Obama of ducking media coverage of his decision to fund international abortions.

"Of course, it was no accident that the new president postponed the act until the last possible minute on Friday, knowing the repeal would be buried in the weekend headlines," he told LifeNews.com. "Issuing it now means that even the presidential blackberry will get more media coverage than his international abortion bailout."

"The end of Mexico City is nothing less than a tragedy for the world's poor," he said.

Gary Bauer also chimed in and said Obama's executive orders are confusing.

"In a time of great economic anxiety and surging budget deficits, is forcing American taxpayers to subsidize abortion really such a high priority for the new administration or the best use of our resources?" he asked.

"And I can't help but be perplexed and disappointed by the irony of extending rights to terrorists while committing American tax dollars to the destruction of innocent life," he said.




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#85 - Posted 29 January 2009, 2:35 PM
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If one of you lost your life or lost the life of a very important person for you (and I am being very, very serious about this) and then ask: How did this happen? You only have to remember these days.



PeRod, I can relate to your point, but

Look at this scenario,

The US has by far more soldiers in harm's way then they are terrorists in harm's way. Let's say we don't abide by the Geneva Convention, that's start a precedence.

I have people over in Iraq and some that may go. I couldn't imagine what they would have to go through if they're held captive and the most powerful nation in the world publicly subscribes to torture and other abuses of prisoners.

Mind you, it's not a perfect world, but, somebody has to take a stand. Torture has always been used, but, with the exposure of abuses at Guantanamo Bay, you can't look the other way.

Then, when we accuse our "enemies" of being inhumane....

You know the rest!

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#87 - Posted 29 January 2009, 2:54 PM
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Kmnupe, my dear friend, remember Marx (Karl, you know). Everybody wants to export the “right” way for a society as everybody see that right way.
Castro wants “his” revolution. He wants Cuba to be like he desires. He is not asking anybody how Cuba should be (Cubans included); he perfectly knows what he has to do. He even knows how the United States of America should be too.
It is impossible, just impossible not to have a confrontation with a leader like this one if you are complete outside from what “he” thinks is right.
To have enemies is something normal and in the near future (even perhaps during a century) it is going to be so.
Now we have the European Union. Well, do you know how many times those countries have sustained wars?
To leave in peace is a process and you need to let chemistry do its work.



I'm not naive to believe that every nation can achieve peace, but, when you have enemies, do not misconstrue why they are your enemies and if it's a transgression of yours that have caused them to be your enemies, by all means suck it up.

If it's war you want. it's war you gonna get.

For instance, I made a reference to the "streets" in an earlier post. Many neighborhood gangs started as a vehicle to protect themselves from danger and end up being in more danger by forming gangs.

No one thought that calling a truce would be a better solution.

It's funny that in this world, people who "get it" are made to feel that they are clueless when it's the demagogues and their sympathizers who are.
Edited on 1/29/2009 2:57 PM by kmnupe.

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#88 - Posted 29 January 2009, 2:56 PM
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We ain't done with George, and his crony capitalists. And remember, Nixon waits for his buddy in Hell.
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"Ok, so who is going to be the first to rip into me for some jokes? Before you do please remember:

1. If they were Christian jokes they would be OK and no liberal would complain
2. The freedom to make fun does not exist in Islamic countries,only in the freedom loving west and in Iraq (for now) "



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.I'm going to be the first one to rip into you, you jerk. All those jokes are in very poor taste and extremely offensive. Just for the record I have a very good freind, a pakistani doctor named Yasser who's now in North Carolina but who I hope to see very soon. William, I don't even know you and I can assure you with the utmost certainty that you are not fit to tie my freind's shoes. You should be so lucky if the Creator had fashioned you into the type of being my good freind is or to even posses a fraction of his intelligence. Your racism and ethnocentrism becomes more and more apparent with every post. Do you not care how your diatribes make you look Mr. Olmstead? From your pictures on the site you provided one gets the impression that you're an older gentleman but you're carrying on like a teenaged buffoon. Go find a Klan meeting somewhere so as to find an audience that is more receptive to your brand of humor.
Edited on 1/29/2009 3:23 PM by cibaeño75.
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#90 - Posted 29 January 2009, 3:19 PM
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Ok, so who is going to be the first to rip into me for some jokes? Before you do please remember:

1. If they were Christian jokes they would be OK and no liberal would complain
2. The freedom to make fun does not exist in Islamic countries,only in the freedom loving west and in Iraq (for now)




You're deranged. If they were christian jokes by muslims and jews on this board, it would be in bad taste.

You have the power to delete your post, you should.


Amazing!!!

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