| #21 - Posted 17 April 2008, 11:57 PM | |
Location: United States, New York, NY Join date: December 2007 Member #: 16 Posts: 586 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians I hear your point. Jemesouviens. However, do you smile when you hear the word Dominican? I hope the day arrives when that happens as well. |
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| #22 - Posted 18 April 2008, 3:34 AM | |
Location: United States, Spring Valley, NY Join date: December 2007 Member #: 142 Posts: 433 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians Quote: ny4life previously said: I hear your point. Jemesouviens. However, do you smile when you hear the word Dominican? I hope the day arrives when that happens as well. Why would I have a reason to get mad when I hear that. I have nothing but love for Dominicans. Its just the ones like Rubirosa that I don't like. Plus "NY4life" I got a thang for the Dominican mamacita's. But thats just between you and me. LOL !! j'ai vu J'ai participe Je me souvien - 1804 |
| #23 - Posted 20 April 2008, 12:37 PM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: January 2008 Member #: 272 Posts: 351 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians Correct spelling is "vodou" not "voodoo" or "voudo". But Lautaro is right in the definition. It is a very misunderstood belief practice which has been taken out of context by Hollywood media and turned into a cult fiction. It does not deal with hexing people or curses and "voodoo dolls" aren't even what Hollywood has made it seem like. There are dolls but they are used simply as offerings to the spirits or Loas. It is an Afro-diasporic religion much the same way religions such as Brazilian candomble and umbanda is. |
| #24 - Posted 20 April 2008, 1:41 PM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: January 2008 Member #: 204 Posts: 2 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians so true We will always hate each other until we can get an understanding of the genocide commited in 1937 when the Dominican people remained silent. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Lwhf0ZuAE |
| #25 - Posted 20 April 2008, 1:52 PM | |
Location: Brazil, near Copacabana Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 1547 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians The populace didn´t exactly remain silent, mr. James, because that would be the period when Trujillo faced more conspiracies than in any other period of his long tyranny. Unfortunately, like the ones faced by his counterpart in evil Francois Duvalier, they would be destined to fail, be it by treachery from one of the conspirators, sheer cowardice, or pure luck on the part of the tyrant . I have always been of the opinion that, more than getting rid of the haitian inmigrants, the underlying motive of the massacre would be to strike fear on the hearts of the dominican people, because with it Trujillo wanted his people to understand the lenghts that he would be capable of going in order to secure his power. Another point that sustains my claim is that the haitians working for the American sugar consortiums would be left untouched, and later, seeing as how these consortiums were more profittable than his own plantations, Trujillo would drop his strict antihaitian stance in order to get those labourers, for which he would go to sign agreements with his haitian counterpart Duvalier, from which both of them would benefit: Duvalier in selling his countrymen like cattle and Trujillo by exploiting them mercilessly. Edited on 4/21/2008 12:06 AM by Lautaro. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. —The Sith Code |
| #26 - Posted 10 May 2008, 12:37 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT PEOPLE? WHAT IS IT AS A HAITIAN OR DOMINICAN HAVE WE DONE, ARE WE DOING, CAN WE DO AND WILL WE DO TO CHANGE THINGS ON THE ISLAND OF HISPANIOLA OR QUISQUEYA AS IT ONCE WAS CALLED? I have had enough about Dominican this and Haitian that when neither people are actually working toward peace and civility. What kills me is that at the end of the day, politicians be it a Dominican and/ or a Haitian politician will both be sipping Coconut Juice together laughing on a beach resort somewhere while the hatred they preach, teach and they issues which they never addressed and they keep to have people stay divided remain and live only within the people they have imposed those views on to believe. You think Leonel and his family do not have greater relations with Preval and his family? Do you think those in the political arenas of both DR and Haiti do not get along? Do you think they see those differences that a simple joe as you and I see? There is only one color, race and origin those politicians on both sides see and that is GREEN, CURRENCY and BANK. The question is: Since we know all this much as this generation and better, what do we do about it and who are we waiting on for to do something about it if not ourselves? How old do we have to be to start being part of the solution and not the problem ourselves? What is our obligation as future generations? Until then when we can answer these questions and until we do something about it ourselves, there is not much we can say. It is that simple period. You guys do not have to include me since I am the most hated on here lol, but what we do have here as it seems apparent is a group of youth such as yourselves who are hungry for change and I feel a prospect for an organized organization among you is quite probable. In the meantime, here are some good old songs people: http://www.imeem.com/people/WZjv9bx/playlist/iOwJag9z/chansonettes_music_playlist/ Edited on 5/10/2008 1:00 PM by YoSoyHispanolano. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #27 - Posted 11 May 2008, 7:27 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: May 2008 Member #: 743 Posts: 7 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians My brother is a Haitian I also have a Dominican Brother. I love both brothers. My Dominican brother is kind to me and is a good teacher, he has allowed me to live next door to him and shared his time with me. My Haitian brother is dear to me also. He has so very little to share but he has shared his last pound of rice with me or the last few beans that he has so we could make a big pot of food to eat together. He showed me how to wash my clothes by hand, more clean than an electric wash machine. He massaged my sholder when it ached in pain. He sat at my table and with his family and friends sang to me and my family of the life and beauty of Haiti. I watched my young brother develop into a strong young man before my very eyes when he ate well at my home for 4 months. He had come to my house for work and did a beautiful job of educating me and explaining the Haitian way. I am gratefull to my brothers as they continue to educate me I pray they will become as close as friends to each other as I feel toward them. They are both beautiful people, they are both fathers now, they have lovely wives, and they want the best for their families. The only difference is that my Domincan brother has a home to live in and my Haitian brother is too poor to be able to purchase a home. I hope and pray my Dominican brother continues to be kind to our brother Haitian. Edited on 5/12/2008 12:22 AM by Willduit. |
| #28 - Posted 11 May 2008, 9:38 PM | |
Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians Quote: Willduit previously said: My brother is a Haitian I also have a Dominican Brother. I love both brothers. My Dominican brother is kind to me and is a good teacher, he has allowed me to live next door to him and shared his time with me. My Haitian brother is dear to me also. He has so very little to share but he has shared his last pound of rice with me or the last few beans that he has so we could make a big pot of food to eat together. He showed me how to wash my clothes by hand, more clean than an electric wash machine. He massaged my sholder when in ached in pain. He sat at my table and with his family and friends sang to me and my family of the life and beauty of Haiti. I watched my young brother develop into a strong young man before my very eyes when he ate well at my home for 4 months. He had come to my house for work and did a beautiful job of educating me and explaining the Haitian way. I am gratefull to my brothers as they continue to educate me I pray they will become as close as friends to each other as I feel toward them. They are both beautiful people, they are both fathers now, they have lovely wives, and they want the best for their families. The only difference is that my Domincan brother has a home to live in and my Haitian brother is too poor to be able to purchase a home. I hope and pray my Dominican brother continues to be kind to our brother Haitian. Wow! Now that was deep and could be used as a great metaphor. By every definition of this post, it is literally a post that can be turned into the greatest Hispanola / Hispaniola poem, song and a method for peace. May I edit or reword this and use it on my blog page and give it a name? Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #29 - Posted 12 May 2008, 12:13 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: May 2008 Member #: 743 Posts: 7 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians My dear friend: I am an old man. In lifes jouney I discoved that blood type does not tell whether you are black or white or from across a man made border or you live in the country or city. So that makes us all BROTHERS, the blood is the same. We will not see peace and harmony as long as prejudice of any kind enters into our relationship with one another. I love the Haitians and we have a mutual understanding of the proublems that arise from ignorance. I also am a foreiner to the Dominican Republic. I do know one thing, I always make sure that when a Haitian comes to me for work, I encourage him to go back and get his passport and or a workers visa. Then he will have legal rights when some unscrupulous person does not pay him for a honest days work. We need to always keep a good dialog so there will be better understanding between brothers. You are welcome to use my post however you see fit, if it will help in mutual understanding. We live too close not to know each other in a kind, concerned, and loving manor Sincerely as always, Willduit Edited on 5/12/2008 12:19 AM by Willduit. |
| #30 - Posted 12 May 2008, 12:37 AM | |
Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians Quote: Willduit previously said: My dear friend: I am an old man. In lifes jouney I discoved that blood type does not tell whether you are black or white or from across a man made border or you live in the country or city. So that makes us all BROTHERS, the blood is the same. We will not see peace and harmony as long as prejudice of any kind enters into our relationship with one another. I love the Haitians and we have a mutual understanding of the proublems that arise from ignorance. I also am a foreiner to the Dominican Republic. I do know one thing, I always make sure that when a Haitian comes to me for work, I encourage him to go back and get his passport and or a workers visa. Then he will have legal rights when some unscrupulous person does not pay him for a honest days work. We need to always keep a good dialog so there will be better understanding between brothers. You are welcome to use my post however you see fit, if it will help in mutual understanding. We live too close not to know each other in a kind, concerned, and loving manor Sincerely as always, Willduit Yes indeed and I need to ask you of one more favor. My posts on here are either under HispanolanoYoSoy or YoSoyHispanolano. Please tell me and have a reading at them and tell me honestly if I you do not see me trying to both encourage better relations between the two great nations as well as I am trying to empower Haitians to stop allow themselves to be victims and do for home first before we can have any kind of respect elsewhere... You still have not told me if I have permission to use your word from what you have posted earlier which I thought was beautiful and inspiring analogy and metaphorically a paradox of what your intent message really was of the point you were actually vonvey... So do I get permission dear friend and brother or not? Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |