| #41 - Posted 13 May 2008, 1:05 PM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: January 2008 Member #: 272 Posts: 351 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians Quote: Lautaro previously said: Any thoughts about this (in my opinion) ¨Cold War¨ between Preval and the Haitian Parliament? I really do not confide at all in the senators responsible for Alexis' removal becuz although Alexis was not active enough in attempting to prevent the food problem from hitting Haiti as hard as it did, it is rumored that there was an agenda. Many of these so-called politicians were installed during the tyrant Latortue's short reign in power so they will find a way to oust anyone they feel is not going to somehow enable them to conveniently carry out their interests (usually financial). It's all part of that larger category which infects the region of Latin America called corruption. Preval has been going around vouching Pierre's qualification for PM and many so far have agreed for the nomination. Pierre is not even a politician and that might make things a little better because he is not tainted with the corruption that has ravaged the Haitian political scene. Pierre as of recent has called for a coalition government in order to bring about the political parties together into cooperating, debating, and managing Haiti's affairs (especially the issue of ramping up agricultural production and alleviating the suffering of the poor because of skyrocketing food prices). This shows somewhat that he knows what he's doing. My fear is that he somehow gets wrapped up in the intimidating political scene. |
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| #42 - Posted 13 May 2008, 1:16 PM | |
Location: Brazil, near Copacabana Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 1547 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians Quote: HAYkickyouintheSHIN previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Any thoughts about this (in my opinion) ¨Cold War¨ between Preval and the Haitian Parliament? I really do not confide at all in the senators responsible for Alexis' removal becuz although Alexis was not active enough in attempting to prevent the food problem from hitting Haiti as hard as it did, it is rumored that there was an agenda. Many of these so-called politicians were installed during the tyrant Latortue's short reign in power so they will find a way to oust anyone they feel is not going to somehow enable them to conveniently carry out their interests (usually financial). It's all part of that larger category which infects the region of Latin America called corruption. Preval has been going around vouching Pierre's qualification for PM and many so far have agreed for the nomination. Pierre is not even a politician and that might make things a little better because he is not tainted with the corruption that has ravaged the Haitian political scene. Pierre as of recent has called for a coalition government in order to bring about the political parties together into cooperating, debating, and managing Haiti's affairs (especially the issue of ramping up agricultural production and alleviating the suffering of the poor because of skyrocketing food prices). This shows somewhat that he knows what he's doing. My fear is that he somehow gets wrapped up in the intimidating political scene. Or worse, he might suffer the same fate of Rosny Smart, who couldn't end his mandate because of the delusions of grandeur of the Parliament. In my opinion, that was one of the reasons that would pave the way for Aristide's second election. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. —The Sith Code |
| #43 - Posted 13 May 2008, 1:20 PM | |
Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522 | BANN SENATE AK DEPITE AYISYEN SAN KONSYANS: Nou Pa Wont? Haitian Lawmakers Reject President's Prime Minister Candidate. Translation: Bann Senate San Manman Sa Yo Fe Tout Efo Pou Yo kenbe Peyi Ya Bloke. Associated Press - May 12, 2008 8:03 PM ET http://hispanolanos.blogspot.com/ http://www.HispanolanoYoSoy.skyrock.com/ PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (AP) - Haitian lawmakers say they have rejected President Rene Preval's pick to fill the prime minister's office. This clip resonate well with those Haitian Greedy Bastards Politicians http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZiVYVoy8QA . Parliament spokesmen say 51 legislators voted against international banker Ericq Pierre, while 35 voted for him. Nine did not vote during Monday's session. Preval will have to nominate another candidate. To take office, the candidate must be declared eligible and win a vote of confidence in separate sessions of the two houses of Parliament. Preval nominated Pierre to the country's No. 2 post last month after the Senate fired Prime Minister Jacques Edouard Alexis. Alexis was dismissed amid criticism that he mismanaged the economy before violent protests that left seven people dead and destroyed hundreds of businesses. PS: LAUTARO, now you see what I am and was trying to say. Most Haitians actually want to keep Haiti in the position, stage and situation that she is right now, because that is the one way to assure their schemes of taking money from the Country. everyone almost knew they were not going to elect him since he represent hope for Haiti and a threat to the pockets of those dirty corrupted Politician senators in the Haitian Senate. Of course he was way too qualify and they managed to find any bogus excuse not to elect him because Ericq Pierre seems competent enough and those senators had done deals with foreign influences behind closed doors to not elect quite a potential nominee like Ericq Pierre. Those senators like an unstable Haiti because that is how they steal from the Country and flee Haiti once they done taking all its money. It is of no doubt at all that with all the money in AIDES that is being poured into Haiti right now they would not allow someone with Money Managing skills and experience to be Prime Minister. Ironically what they do not know is that if they do not nominate and elect a Prime Minister, most of those promising AIDE will not reach Haiti. So there is no way there were going to elect someone who they know would actually put all those AIDE money to good use for the Country. Of course not, that would be too much love for Country. What it is, it is that they need and they are trying to put someone in who is their own piggy bank machine. That is a new low and a pitiful shame for those Haitian senates politicians. Ericq Pierre had all the qualifications need to even be PRESIDENT OF HAITI. By far better qualification that most who had ruled the Country. He is an Agronomist which would be good for the Country, as well as he is a Financier who possesses both Accounting and Money Management skills as well as he has not been a politician to be as corrupted as most already are. The lie they had put forth was that his grand parents birth Certificates were not submitted to determine if he is Haitian or not. That is such a bull because if one submits his actual mother and father's birth certificates they will both show both the Birth place and the name of your mother and father thus your grand parents which at this point proves that you are Haitian and thus a native of the land since on your own Birth certificate it will say your place of Birth fro you yourself. Once again, here is the clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZiVYVoy8QA Edited on 5/13/2008 1:33 PM by HispanolanoYoSoy. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #44 - Posted 13 May 2008, 1:26 PM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: January 2008 Member #: 272 Posts: 351 | RE: BANN SENATE AK DEPITE AYISYEN SAN KONSYANS: Nou Pa Wont? exactly Hispanolo. They rob the country and prevent it from going forward. Then when a coup or something of that nature happens they flee to the US or even the D.R and claim that their country will never move forward. Corruption really is the biggest factor in Haiti's lack of progression. |
| #45 - Posted 13 May 2008, 7:19 PM | |
Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE CLIPS. THEY ARE TOO HILLARY, I MEAN, HILARIOUS LOL HA HAHHH! http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night....itics/video/play.shtml?mea=224734 http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night....itics/video/play.shtml?mea=237272 http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night....itics/video/play.shtml?mea=221776 http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night....itics/video/play.shtml?mea=250052 http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night....itics/video/play.shtml?mea=239666 Edited on 5/13/2008 7:21 PM by HispanolanoYoSoy. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #46 - Posted 18 May 2008, 7:04 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | OH THE BITTER SWEET STORY OF POVERTY: Haitians In The Bateys Of DR. The Bitter Sweet Batey Life: Haitians In The Batey Of Caraballo Tour. By Wilgeens Rosenberg http://www.hispanolanos.blogspot.com/ http://www.HispanolanoYoSoy.skyrock.com/ Recommended reading books: "Why The Cock Fights" by Michele Wucker and "The Farming Of The Bones" by Edwidge Danticat. PUERTO PLATA - In the Dominican Republic, the word "batey" denotes the living quarters or "neighborhood" of resident cane cutters on land belonging to a large sugar company. Amidst the sugar cane fields of Montellano, Puerto Plata lies Batey Caraballo. The overwhelming majority of residents are of Haitian or Haitian-Dominican descent. Although workers are granted a small plot of land on which they may build a home, the area is far from desirable. Batey Caraballo is located on low lying, overcrowded land which is prone to flooding. Cane cutters are isolated geographically in the batey, and they are also isolated socially by barriers of language and culture that differ from the norm of regular typical Dominican life. My old missionary group (The Dream Project) some Evangelists and I had the opportunity to meet and interact once again this year with children and families living in the Batey Caraballo in effort to shed lights and expose this matter issue of those people who most of whom were shy and did not want to be filmed due because they were and felt too shamefully sad and embarrassed of their actual living conditions there to be seeing by the outside world on Camera. Father James Coates and his staffs allowed us this opportunity for this taping. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywFifG9nVcs Although there are some natives Dominican born who actually live in those Bateys as well, but those Bateys are predominantly comprised or composed of mostly Haitians and you will witness the daily hardships that these people face and learn about the Haitian subculture that exists and plays a large role in the Dominican society and economy. For example... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhmgPmHubxU Our goal from The Dream Project is to attack and expose poverty to the world without discrimination of whose poverty it is be it the Haitians in the Dominican Republic or the poverty of actual Dominican natives in general. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGNdREwFjKM Poverty is poverty no matter the color of the skin, the resentments or social differences or where around the world there is poverty, it is still poverty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMBS2ETPGZg Haitian-Dominican Public Market & Dajabon - Twice a week the borders are open between the Dominican Republic and Haiti and national tensions eased drastically down to allow friendly and excited commerce between the Dominicans and Haitians in the tragically historic North Coast City of Dajabon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS7_HqvraBU It may be surprising, but it is the Haitians that have the majority of goods to sell. As the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. In recent years, Haiti have received great deal of donations from large companies throughout the world. An amazing variety of brand name and knock-off goods can be acquired at amazing prices… after a little bargaining, of course! The Dominican-Haitian market is an excellent opportunity to witness first-hand the intuitive similarities and striking differences between the two nationalities that share this small island. Prime example, lunch today was at a small local popular place in Dajabón which most people of both Nations frequent quite frequently. Amid all the racial or past old resentments that exists between the two people of both Countries one thing we can say from that trip is that they both like the food from that little no name Haitian Cuisine Restaurant at the border with long lines and high demand for their food. "Asi, tenemos el mismo menu en alimentacion y la cocina, pero su comida de los Haitianos es mucho mas picante y tan bueno delicioso. Me encanta su comida y deseo que mi esposa sabia cocinar asi. Como se puede ver y debe saber que ellos son buenas personas, pero que deseo lo habian la vida un poco facil en su parte, de verdad" said laughingly yet with a sad look this Dominican border local guard. There are great tensions between the two people from both Nations, but apparently a fact it has been reported throughout the world to be somewhat more so from the Dominican side as far as Dominicans treat the Haitians. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhiKOZw5W-w However there on the border, you actually see there is hope - or at least a sense of it, that both people and Nation can actually co-exist in a civil and amicable ways as we as well from THE DREAM PROJECT are simply doing is hope with both people and that is our dream projected goal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE9dNeM0teM ************************************************************************************************************* Here are the clips from our missions. Please be advised that some of the clips are from the year 2006 and 2007 as well and were put together a while after arriving in the United States. So bare with us. Some of them I was not there to enjoy the good times with my old group. WHAT UP MATT! I hope you are reading this dear friend. When is our next mission? Anyway, since as the Mission Group Policy directed by DR officials, we were not allowed actual Camcorders each time. Some of the guys sent me the clips that were taken by cell phones and picture cameras. Oh the fun we had, I really miss you guys. Anyway, the clips, here they are... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEHRiGt8P20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOTnaC4ad7w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsFvfp76tFM * For any comments or expressing views on this article do not hesitate to discuss them in this threads. As the views written in this thread are not necessarily the views of THE DREAM PROJECT and any other Missionary groups I have traveled with, nor are they judgmental in any way of the existing relations between the two Countries. I hope this article did not seem biased and partial, however if indeed it may appear to be so in your opinion, again discuss it in here and remember to back you claims, statements with substantial facts and well researched references and those references are to be given or provided so that others can cross reference them accordingly. Edited on 5/18/2008 7:20 AM by YoSoyHispanolano. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #47 - Posted 18 May 2008, 10:33 PM | |
Location: United States, Spring Valley, NY Join date: December 2007 Member #: 142 Posts: 433 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians I disagree with all you guys.....The fact of the matter is that this Ericq Pierre guy is not a politician, but a member on the board of the "World Bank" or something to that effect. The situation in Haiti is a political situation which is far too complicated for a banker to solve. We need someone with a political know-how to solve this. I highly doubt that corruption had anything to do with this. Back in '96, Preval tried to nominate the same guy but the senate rejected him after he supported a economic plan being pushed by the US that world layoff goverment workers and privitized state owned industries. But of course, no one remembers that. Ericq Pierre is simply a puppet of the United States and Haiti does not need that. j'ai vu J'ai participe Je me souvien - 1804 |
| #48 - Posted 19 May 2008, 1:07 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians Quote: jemesouviens1804 previously said: I disagree with all you guys.....The fact of the matter is that this Ericq Pierre guy is not a politician, but a member on the board of the "World Bank" or something to that effect. The situation in Haiti is a political situation which is far too complicated for a banker to solve. We need someone with a political know-how to solve this. I highly doubt that corruption had anything to do with this. Back in '96, Preval tried to nominate the same guy but the senate rejected him after he supported a economic plan being pushed by the US that world layoff goverment workers and privitized state owned industries. But of course, no one remembers that. Ericq Pierre is simply a puppet of the United States and Haiti does not need that. This is what I have to say about our Haitian Parliament and Senate. It is all in this song and Video and you be the judge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGFEU9VhktI Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #49 - Posted 19 May 2008, 1:07 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians Quote: jemesouviens1804 previously said: I disagree with all you guys.....The fact of the matter is that this Ericq Pierre guy is not a politician, but a member on the board of the "World Bank" or something to that effect. The situation in Haiti is a political situation which is far too complicated for a banker to solve. We need someone with a political know-how to solve this. I highly doubt that corruption had anything to do with this. Back in '96, Preval tried to nominate the same guy but the senate rejected him after he supported a economic plan being pushed by the US that world layoff goverment workers and privitized state owned industries. But of course, no one remembers that. Ericq Pierre is simply a puppet of the United States and Haiti does not need that. This is what I have to say about our Haitian Parliament and Senate. It is all in this song and Video and you be the judge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGFEU9VhktI Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #50 - Posted 19 May 2008, 2:06 AM | |
Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians Did you like the video above people? Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |