I have a question; Regarding Haitian Illegals in DR - Santo Domingo

#5 - Posted 10 February 2009, 9:16 PM
chillaxin201 Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057	RE: I have a question; Regarding Haitian Illegals in DR Quote: S1CAR1O previously said: Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: But I have a question; if a United States citizen has a child in the Dominican Republic that U.S. citizen has the right to obtain U.S. citizenship for that child. My question is, how come the illegal immigrant Haitians in D.R. not doing the same for their offspring. Get them Haitian documents, any document is better then no document. Any passport is better then no passport, that why he or she can leave the island if they choose to. Yours truly Chillaxin201 thats exactly what i believe too. since the dominican goverment is refusing papers to those born to illegals why cant they apply to the hatian embassy to get those papers. suposedly the hatian goverment doesnt recognize those born outside of the country as citezenz even if their parents were hatian nationals. i think thats stupid and they really need to change that so that way all these dominican born hatians can get their papers so that they can legally leave the country if they so wish or get signed to play baseball like in the last couple of videos you posted. its up 2 the haitain goverment to make that decision... Well if they fail to recognize there countrymen’s children. They are just as much to blame as the Dominicans they blame. Why wouldn’t they want to have a major league baseball player among there ranks
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RE: I have a question; Regarding Haitian Illegals in DR

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chillaxin201 previously said:

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Bonahan48 previously said:

Chillaxin210 and Sicario, let me clarify one point. The Haitian Constitution does provide Haitians born outside Haiti with a nationality. This is how the Haitian Constitution reads:

ARTICLE 11:
Any person born of a Haitian father or Haitian mother who are themselves native-born Haitians and have never renounced their nationality possesses Haitian nationality at the time of birth.

1. Since Haitians are not naturalized in DR they are stil Haitians and their descendants are fully Haitains even if they are born in DR

2. The DR born Haitians were never supposed to be documented and we all know that. Only those who hold a legal resident statutus (not a CEA work permit-those are considered in transit) can obtain legalization

My point is that you guys are thinking hard on an issue that has a clear solution. If a Haitian is born in DR, Dominican can only testify to the birth by giving them a birth certificate but we cannot give them nationality or citizenship.

Actually, I wanted one of our Haitian posters to post/ comment about the Question.

Give them nothing... They've done too much harm to us for us to be so kind with them... Lets be "Realist"

#2 - Posted 9 February 2009, 11:35 PM
Bonahan48 Location: Dominican Republic Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1019 Posts: 212	RE: I have a question; Regarding Haitian Illegals in DR Great idea. But you see these Haitians have low self-esteem. They want to mix with us because they think we are better. But that's not true. Dominicans are different, not better. They will apply for Haitians document as we start cleaning the JCE records. Only those born to a Dominican parent (not a Haitian pretending to be Dominican) should be allow to stay.
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#4 - Posted 10 February 2009, 5:45 AM
S1CAR1O Location: United States, Bronx, NY Join date: January 2009 Member #: 1933 Posts: 143	RE: I have a question; Regarding Haitian Illegals in DR Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: But I have a question; if a United States citizen has a child in the Dominican Republic that U.S. citizen has the right to obtain U.S. citizenship for that child. My question is, how come the illegal immigrant Haitians in D.R. not doing the same for their offspring. Get them Haitian documents, any document is better then no document. Any passport is better then no passport, that why he or she can leave the island if they choose to. Yours truly Chillaxin201 thats exactly what i believe too. since the dominican goverment is refusing papers to those born to illegals why cant they apply to the hatian embassy to get those papers. suposedly the hatian goverment doesnt recognize those born outside of the country as citezenz even if their parents were hatian nationals. i think thats stupid and they really need to change that so that way all these dominican born hatians can get their papers so that they can legally leave the country if they so wish or get signed to play baseball like in the last couple of videos you posted. its up 2 the haitain goverment to make that decision...
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#6 - Posted 10 February 2009, 9:59 PM
DominicanChic Location: United States, New York Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1508 Posts: 382	RE: I have a question; Regarding Haitian Illegals in DR Because they are not trying to solve the problem, their NGO buddies (and them to a certain extent) are just trying to make a political statement. All the money spent defaming DR on this matter could have easily helped pay for transport for parents to get their papers in Haiti, and then get the kids papers in the Haitian embassies/consulates in DR - but no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they have to prove a point, those idiots!
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#7 - Posted 10 February 2009, 11:38 PM
Bonahan48 Location: Dominican Republic Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1019 Posts: 212	RE: I have a question; Regarding Haitian Illegals in DR Chillaxin210 and Sicario, let me clarify one point. The Haitian Constitution does provide Haitians born outside Haiti with a nationality. This is how the Haitian Constitution reads: ARTICLE 11: Any person born of a Haitian father or Haitian mother who are themselves native-born Haitians and have never renounced their nationality possesses Haitian nationality at the time of birth. 1. Since Haitians are not naturalized in DR they are stil Haitians and their descendants are fully Haitains even if they are born in DR 2. The DR born Haitians were never supposed to be documented and we all know that. Only those who hold a legal resident statutus (not a CEA work permit-those are considered in transit) can obtain legalization My point is that you guys are thinking hard on an issue that has a clear solution. If a Haitian is born in DR, Dominican can only testify to the birth by giving them a birth certificate but we cannot give them nationality or citizenship.
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#8 - Posted 15 February 2009, 12:57 AM
chillaxin201 Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057	RE: I have a question; Regarding Haitian Illegals in DR Quote: Bonahan48 previously said: Chillaxin210 and Sicario, let me clarify one point. The Haitian Constitution does provide Haitians born outside Haiti with a nationality. This is how the Haitian Constitution reads: ARTICLE 11: Any person born of a Haitian father or Haitian mother who are themselves native-born Haitians and have never renounced their nationality possesses Haitian nationality at the time of birth. 1. Since Haitians are not naturalized in DR they are stil Haitians and their descendants are fully Haitains even if they are born in DR 2. The DR born Haitians were never supposed to be documented and we all know that. Only those who hold a legal resident statutus (not a CEA work permit-those are considered in transit) can obtain legalization My point is that you guys are thinking hard on an issue that has a clear solution. If a Haitian is born in DR, Dominican can only testify to the birth by giving them a birth certificate but we cannot give them nationality or citizenship. Actually, I wanted one of our Haitian posters to post/ comment about the Question.
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#1 - Posted 9 February 2009, 11:31 PM
chillaxin201 Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057	I have a question; Regarding Haitian Illegals in DR But I have a question; if a United States citizen has a child in the Dominican Republic that U.S. citizen has the right to obtain U.S. citizenship for that child. My question is, how come the illegal immigrant Haitians in D.R. not doing the same for their offspring. Get them Haitian documents, any document is better then no document. Any passport is better then no passport, that why he or she can leave the island if they choose to. Yours truly Chillaxin201
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#3 - Posted 9 February 2009, 11:51 PM
chillaxin201 Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057	RE: I have a question; Regarding Haitian Illegals in DR Quote: Bonahan48 previously said: Great idea. But you see these Haitians have low self-esteem. They want to mix with us because they think we are better. But that's not true. Dominicans are different, not better. They will apply for Haitians document as we start cleaning the JCE records. Only those born to a Dominican parent (not a Haitian pretending to be Dominican) should be allow to stay. SO, what you are saying is that Haitians Are Vende Patria.
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#9 - Posted 15 February 2009, 8:43 AM
CarlosFranco Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 2770	RE: I have a question; Regarding Haitian Illegals in DR Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: Quote: Bonahan48 previously said: Chillaxin210 and Sicario, let me clarify one point. The Haitian Constitution does provide Haitians born outside Haiti with a nationality. This is how the Haitian Constitution reads: ARTICLE 11: Any person born of a Haitian father or Haitian mother who are themselves native-born Haitians and have never renounced their nationality possesses Haitian nationality at the time of birth. 1. Since Haitians are not naturalized in DR they are stil Haitians and their descendants are fully Haitains even if they are born in DR 2. The DR born Haitians were never supposed to be documented and we all know that. Only those who hold a legal resident statutus (not a CEA work permit-those are considered in transit) can obtain legalization My point is that you guys are thinking hard on an issue that has a clear solution. If a Haitian is born in DR, Dominican can only testify to the birth by giving them a birth certificate but we cannot give them nationality or citizenship. Actually, I wanted one of our Haitian posters to post/ comment about the Question. Give them nothing... They've done too much harm to us for us to be so kind with them... Lets be "Realist"
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#10 - Posted 17 February 2009, 7:23 PM
HonestAbe Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1387 Posts: 109	RE: I have a question; Regarding Haitian Illegals in DR No, the hatian goverment won't do anything, just like they have being doing since...... always. And it is true Haitians consider themselves to be inferior to Dominicans, that's why they want their children to be Dominicans and not haitians. Ask any haitian if they are haitian, they will refuse to acept it and will deny it, sometimes in a violent manner. I've seen it.
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