Glimmertwin, i am bemused that in the 21st century, dinosaurs still roam the earth.

DREADLOCKS CANT COMPREHEND WHAT HE READS
READ LINE BY LINE TELL ME WHAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE?

Gizmo Dreadlocks as far as certain clubs not allowing some types of people access, is not an exclusive problem of the Dominican Republic. Some of these clubs restrict certain people because of safety reasons or private parties or events that take place within, and they expect only people that are listed to participate in that particular event that night or day. Others won't allow people they deem lower class, because the wealthy don't rub elbows with the poor. If they were to allow anyone access than imagine the trouble makers and criminals those establishments will attract, it's ridiculous to think that giving anyone free entrance won't cause any problems. As far as Dominican blacks and others not allowed in entering some of these clubs it is problematic but im sure that even if you were a white Dominican and you don't fit their dress code and criteria, you wouldn't be allowed to enter either.
To Summarize:
It's senseless trying to explain the obvious to a person that doesn't validate the realities of safety in an era where wealthy patrons request those ammenities. If you own an establishment you have the right to set the standards, maybe mr. Dreadlocks lives under a rock and thinks that Dominicans that belong to the higher class must share there spaces with anyone that wants access in. It's hypocritical to think like Dreadlocks when the same policy is practiced in the four corners of the world "THE WEALTHY DON'T RUB ELBOWS WITH THE POOR." Dreadlocks maybe you could start a think tank in the U.S. and start there, let's see how much success you will have? Let's see what results you end up with..... till then i wish you luck, you will fail miserably that's my prediction.

it is obvious that you have some sort of personality disorder that does not allow you to understand things which are really simple. go back and read your threads, and you will see where any rational person can safely surmise that you are a rampaging racist. i fail to conclude that you are merely an idiot: it is more sinister than that. it is obvious that you equate the light skinned people with lofty status, and the black or dark skinned people with nefarious intents, and objectionable behaviour. you would have been well served with a life in Mississippi during the fifties. i just wonder which side of the racial divide you would have been on. and, on the subject of the wealthy not rubbing elbows with the poor: to which of the aforementioned categories does Pedro Guerrero belong?

Dreadlocks
it is obvious that you have some sort of personality disorder that does not allow you to understand things which are really simple. go back and read your threads, and you will see where any rational person can safely surmise that you are a rampaging racist. i fail to conclude that you are merely an idiot: it is more sinister than that. it is obvious that you equate the light skinned people with lofty status, and the black or dark skinned people with nefarious intents, and objectionable behaviour. you would have been well served with a life in Mississippi during the fifties. i just wonder which side of the racial divide you would have been on. and, on the subject of the wealthy not rubbing elbows with the poor: to which of the aforementioned categories does Pedro Guerrero belong?

Gizmo To answer you're rant i wouldn't belong to any side, since i wasn't born in that era or near that geographical location. As for Pedro Guerrero not being allegedly granted access to a particular club, that's up to the owner of that establishment wether to let him in or not, regardless of his color or status.

nuff said on this subject. i see where you do not have the intellectual courage to mount a simple argument, or answer elementary questions, so you cop out at every turn. you have a lot of learning to do. thankfully, the world has changed somewhat, because courageous people took brave stands. had everybody been like you, black people would still be in slavery, because you would opine that it was a man's right to decide whether he wanted slaves or not!

I am a true believer that "opinions are like.....everybody has one".
So which part of that don't you understand?.
We are not talking about the past, rather the present.
Had I lived back in those lynching days/years I wouldn't have said what I said.
Had I lived in the 364th Infrantry days/years I would have a better understanding of what all those black soldiers went through.
Because I wasn't, I can only assume.
Do you know who Jose Francisco Pena Gomez was?.
Do you know what most Dominicans used to yell whenever he wanted to to run for office (any position), 30 odd years ago?.
"Pena Gomez no es de aqui, que se vaya para Haiti".
Do you know most yelled the same thing 30 odd years later?.
They didn't give a rat's ass he was Dominican, all they saw was that he was black and had some Haitian blood in his veins.
How come they didn't do that to Trujillo, a white Dominican whose grandmother was Haitian?.
Don't answer me because the key word is "white Dominican".


Exactly you got your opinion I got my opinion. We have to talk about the past to understand the present. Yeah keep assuming.
Did you know Pena Gomez parents were from Haiti?
Do you think that have to be a reason why many Dominican of all color worry about him?
People used to knock him that he was born in Haiti when he was a presidential candidate. Does that have to do about color or country.
I don’t have to go into Haiti you probably know a little about our history with those snake.
That he almost got to the top with Haitian parent is just remarkable considering our history with that country.
Trujillo parents were born in dr.
Finally you think you can post here about DR being one of the most racist countries and people will just let you go by with you BS. Anyway is my opinion.

Now you are free to answer back or not.

vacanos, i assume that you are saying that people were not disturbed by the color of Pena Gomez. is that what you are saying? maybe you might explain to me why many Dominicans in New York, whom i know personally, rejoiced when he lost the election, because, as they told me, "he was too black to run the country"? and some of them were as black as the ace of spades, themselves!

vacanos, i assume that you are saying that people were not disturbed by the color of Pena Gomez. is that what you are saying? maybe you might explain to me why many Dominicans in New York, whom i know personally, rejoiced when he lost the election, because, as they told me, "he was too black to run the country"? and some of them were as black as the ace of spades, themselves!


dreadlock

the reason he came close everytime because of the perception he was haitian. people feared he will open the gate. trust me when growing up in dr that was what you hear about pena gomez.

answer me how about leonel?

El diantre brothe, pero de que maldita cueva saliste tu?.

All I needed to see was you calling Haitians "snake" to realize that talking to you would be the same as talking to a 2 year old child when a piece of candy is taken away from him.

Since I have no time to change diapers or wipe a carajito's ass, I'll let you talk to yourself.

Vacanos:

I'm not sure where Pena Gomez was born, but his legal documents said it was in DR, so I'll have to go with that.... not all blacks were born in Haiti, and not all blacks with haitian parents were born in Hiati.. but if we are to respect rules of evidence , and this slam dunks the Dominicanship of Jose Fco.

Furthermore, it is far more important to me the fact that hisheart was wrapped in a Dominican flag than the petty issues of which side of the border he was born!

As for color issues, may i suggest you watch Lee's Jungle Fever and School Daze......