1. Your post suggest that you tried to somehow tie DR's illegal Haitian immigration problem with Dominicans in NYC.

2. You then don't answer JEM's question, instead you ask her a question which parrots her own.

4. No where does she even imply that 'Haitian illegal immigrants are the majority in DR, if so they are the true legal residents of the island"<-------???The Island? There are two distinct sovereign countries on that island.

ArsenioALembertJr,
Maybe I am in a minority; but to me a Dominican is any Resident (legal or otherwise) who works for the betterment of the country. If you Bleed, sweat and cry for the "Rojo, Azùl y Blanco de Quisqueya"; then you are "Dominicano de Corazòn" in my book.

Yes but that is not cover enough to ignore the fact that haitians outnumber all the other foreign groups by a very wide margin, nor the fact that they're the poorest ones and the fact that the jobs they are taking are the ones needed the most by the common dominican joe, which have to migrate to the States because of the fact that those very same jobs are much better paid over there than in their own soil. Sorry, but the race card is not argument enough for me to cover the fact that we might have an ethnic conflict on our hands on the near future because of our oligarchs' love for slavery.

With a ridiculous statement like that you are currently either drunk and/or high on much more than crack. Please keep entertaining us and feel free to give credible sources that supports your delusional statement.

So your true colors come out and it only took a bit of prodding. The only ones who 'bitch, cry and complain' about the illegal Haitian immigration problem are those who like to conveniently use the old race card to help them with their victimist mentality. So in your delusional parallel universe, there is no illegal Haitian immigration problem, it's the Dominicans' fault because we want to whiten ourselves and using your example with who, Indonesians? Other LatinAmericas (Peruvians, Colombians, etc.)? You're a joke. Keep the entertainment coming.

Let me get this stright: Dominicans "...have to migrate to the States because of the fact that those very same jobs are much better paid over there than in their own soil...", because the jobs they want are being taken my poor haitians...
"...the fact that the jobs they are taking are the ones needed the most by the common dominican joe...", so what you're saying is that the average Dominican is to Ignorant to apply for the jobs that the "white, europeans" are taking...WOw! You have a rather low opinion of your fellow compatriots. The dominicans I know are Lawyers, Doctors, Engineers...and poets...
So the jobs the whites immigrants take from us are ok; because we are too stupid to do these jobs ourselves; but the jobs the Haitians take (working in the sugar cane field, contructions and menial tasks) are a detriment to our security; because after all; these are the only jobs us Dominican Peasants are capable of doing...Is that what you're saying...?

[QUOTE]jacirez
ArsenioALembertJr,
Maybe I am in a minority; [B]but to me a Dominican is any Resident ([U]legal or otherwise[/[/U]B]) who works for the betterment of the country. If you Bleed, sweat and cry for the "Rojo, Azùl y Blanco de Quisqueya"; then you are "Dominicano de Corazòn" in my book.[/QUOTE]
I'm afraid your personal defintion of what a Dominican is will not hold up to any serious legal scrutiny. Why does it bother you to admit DR has a huge illegal Haitian problem?

You'll have to be living under a rock (or be a plain foreigner) to ignore the fact that our population still suffers from a lack of educational opportunities, or the fact that our state is not interested in educating our population (if that were to be so, it would be dedicating 4.5% of the GDP in that endeavour as it is the norm in the rest of Latin America instead of the scant 2.5% that is devoting nowadays). The common dominican IS NOT ignorant, but rather, he/she lacks enough educational opportunities to better him/herself out of his/her miserable lot. Nice attempt in pulling a verbal jiu-jitsu on me, though.

Because my dear friend, illegal immigration is the very least of the challenges we face...it is, for lack of a better word, insignificant...

Is that so? Try telling that to José el del barrio, who finds hinself daily confronted with the fact that the construction moguls don't want to hire him because of his unwillingness to sell his labour for nothing. Or to the santiagueros and neyberos that expelled haitians from their sectors a couple of months ago (the santiagueros peacefully and the neyberos violently, but the end result is the same, that is, the tolerance limit of the country for the haitian exodus is at an all-time low).

So what you're saying is that because the goverment does not invest in education as much as other countries we are doomed to be ignorant...or better yet, that our so-called ignorance and lack of skills do not make us suitable to be employeed in anything other than menial jobs in construction...that we are doomed to be peasant for all ethernity; so we have to fight the lowly Haitian immigrants who are taking away the scraps we rightfully deserve...
Wow!
Listening to you I just want to blow my brains out! What a bunch of "basura". We have several world-class universities. We have the BEST telecomminication infrastructure in Latin America....and more. We did it! We dominicans. We should demand a seat at the upper echelon of business life in the DR; rather than wasting time bitching about Haitians "obreros" and "brazeros" working in constructions and the sugar cane field. We should be aspiring to be CEOs and Chairmen/women or the Board...That is the objective. Let the Haitians come. At least they will serve as an inspiration for us to start moving up in the food chain...