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generoso previously said:

Get "Foundations of Despotism"
Peasants, the Trujillo regime, and modernity in Dominican History, by Ricard Lee Turits.

Best book on the subject I have read so far, and I have read many.
It is a powerful critique of the simplistic demonizing of the dictatorial model of politics used by Trujillo.
It also makes you understand why the guerrilla uprisings didn't succeed in the DR and they did in Cuba.

Definitely a good one, I reviewed it @ my blog. In fact I may have recommended it to you gen! It's an important contriubution towards balanced understanding of that era, and the American historian doesn't have a brazen agenda pro or con Trujillo. My take, also informed by the Bosch book I mentioned, is that the jefe's emergence was almost necessary given the threats (from sugar and on the border) and opportunity for 'rational' reorganization of land. I also took notice of the section on the failure of the so-called barbudos from Cuba. Makes you wonder about the necessity of the Yankee invasion.

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#10 - Posted 31 March 2009, 7:59 PM
generoso Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401	RE: top DR historian/book Quote: Lautaro previously said: Another good book (although I must warn you in the sense of it being a extremely critical one against the DR) is "La comunidad mulata: El caso socio-politico de la República Dominicana", by Pedro Andres Perez Cabral. The guy sustains on his book how our being a mulatto nation have worked against us, going as far as giving the haitian state more legitimacy than ours. Also, he sustains the myth about Taino extinction. The usefulness of the book, in my humble opinion, lies in his comparing the DR's racial history with the one of other countries in the region (specially Cuba and Brazil, which are the closest to us in mixedness). Let me say this, we are indeed a very mixed blood mulatto nation. But we are in denial about that as well, because we "want to be like whites". There was a saying in my youth "Ser blanco es una ocupación" meaning that the whitest young men were going to get the richest young women to marry them. In Cuba and Puerto Rico for example that much race mixing does not exist and you either find white or black but not mixed mulatto that much, as we are. Still we do have our prejudices against real dark blacks. What is your opinion? Edited on 3/31/2009 8:04 PM by generoso. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far".
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#1 - Posted 31 March 2009, 5:18 PM
Manhattanite Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1984	top DR historian/book Some of you guys are pretty well read so please share, amongst all the books on DR you've read, your favorite and why. If you can't narrow to one book then who do you think is the best historian? I couldn't pick a historian I'd call the strongest yet but I really like this title for it's briefness, pace, and an overall accurate survey up through 1960-ish: Trujillo: Causas De Una Tiranía Sin Ejemplo by Juan Bosch I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am. http://twitter.com/ergface
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#3 - Posted 31 March 2009, 6:14 PM
USADR Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 340 Posts: 1299	RE: top DR historian/book Good thread, I'm taking notes. Has anyone here read: Dominican Cultures The Making of a Caribbean Society Edited by Bernardo Vega ^ I liked it, but they're going to have to update the part about our very real component of our Taino ancestry (I know it's much smaller than our Euro/Afro.)
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#4 - Posted 31 March 2009, 7:16 PM
Lautaro Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613	RE: top DR historian/book "Los Motivos del Machete" by José Miguel Soto Jimenez. This book is the best among all the ones that I have ever read about the history of the DR, specially regarding its military affairs. A masterpiece and must have, if there ever was one. Edited on 3/31/2009 7:17 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince
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#6 - Posted 31 March 2009, 7:24 PM
Lautaro Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613	RE: top DR historian/book Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: "Los Motivos del Machete" by José Miguel Soto Jimenez. This book is the best among all the ones that I have ever read about the history of the DR, specially regarding its military affairs. A masterpiece and must have, if there ever was one. Lautaro I have an autograph copy and also have inspected the huge knife, sword and machete collection that the general has at home. I love his descriptive way of narrating, I always thought that he would make a better writer than a politician. Those were exactly my thoughts when I ended reading the book, general. At most, he should have kept his movement as a patriotic one instead of a political one. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince
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#7 - Posted 31 March 2009, 7:31 PM
Lautaro Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613	RE: top DR historian/book Another good book (although I must warn you in the sense of it being a extremely critical one against the DR) is "La comunidad mulata: El caso socio-politico de la República Dominicana", by Pedro Andres Perez Cabral. The guy sustains on his book how our being a mulatto nation have worked against us, going as far as giving the haitian state more legitimacy than ours. Also, he sustains the myth about Taino extinction. The usefulness of the book, in my humble opinion, lies in his comparing the DR's racial history with the one of other countries in the region (specially Cuba and Brazil, which are the closest to us in mixedness). "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince
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#2 - Posted 31 March 2009, 5:25 PM
generoso Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401	RE: top DR historian/book Get "Foundations of Despotism" Peasants, the Trujillo regime, and modernity in Dominican History, by Ricard Lee Turits. Best book on the subject I have read so far, and I have read many. It is a powerful critique of the simplistic demonizing of the dictatorial model of politics used by Trujillo. It also makes you understand why the guerrilla uprisings didn't succeed in the DR and they did in Cuba. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far".
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#5 - Posted 31 March 2009, 7:21 PM
generoso Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401	RE: top DR historian/book Quote: Lautaro previously said: "Los Motivos del Machete" by José Miguel Soto Jimenez. This book is the best among all the ones that I have ever read about the history of the DR, specially regarding its military affairs. A masterpiece and must have, if there ever was one. Lautaro I have an autograph copy and also have inspected the huge knife, sword and machete collection that the general has at home. I love his descriptive way of narrating, I always thought that he would make a better writer than a politician. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far".
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#8 - Posted 31 March 2009, 7:49 PM
TuPapaupa Location: United States, Everywhere Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1255 Posts: 13941	RE: top DR historian/book 1- Una satrapia en el Caribe- Historia puntual de la mala vida del despota Rafael Leonidas Tujillo- By Jose Almoina. 2- Anectodas y crueldades de Trujillo- By Lipe Collado. 3- Trujillo- Causas de una tirania sin ejemplo- By Juan Bosch. And a few others I much rather forget. I am "An Army Of One" Come Get Some!!.
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#9 - Posted 31 March 2009, 7:55 PM
Manhattanite Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1984	RE: top DR historian/book Quote: generoso previously said: Get "Foundations of Despotism" Peasants, the Trujillo regime, and modernity in Dominican History, by Ricard Lee Turits. Best book on the subject I have read so far, and I have read many. It is a powerful critique of the simplistic demonizing of the dictatorial model of politics used by Trujillo. It also makes you understand why the guerrilla uprisings didn't succeed in the DR and they did in Cuba. Definitely a good one, I reviewed it @ my blog. In fact I may have recommended it to you gen! It's an important contriubution towards balanced understanding of that era, and the American historian doesn't have a brazen agenda pro or con Trujillo. My take, also informed by the Bosch book I mentioned, is that the jefe's emergence was almost necessary given the threats (from sugar and on the border) and opportunity for 'rational' reorganization of land. I also took notice of the section on the failure of the so-called barbudos from Cuba. Makes you wonder about the necessity of the Yankee invasion. I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am. http://twitter.com/ergface
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