| #61 - Posted 1 April 2009, 1:52 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 5683 | RE: top DR historian/book Quote: Lautaro previously said: Back to the topic at hand, here are some of another must haves (by the author Carlos Esteban Deive): 1- Los guerrilleros negros : esclavos fugitivos y cimarrones en Santo Domingo 2- Las emigraciones dominicanas a Cuba 3- Los cimarrones del Maniel de Neiba 4- Rebeldes y marginados : ensayos historicos 5- Heterodoxia e inquisición en Santo Domingo 1492-1822 6- Vodú y magia en Santo Domingo 7- Diccionario de dominicanismos The second entry on your list, how thorough is it? "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill |
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| #62 - Posted 1 April 2009, 1:54 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1984 | RE: top DR historian/book Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Get "Foundations of Despotism" Peasants, the Trujillo regime, and modernity in Dominican History, by Ricard Lee Turits. Best book on the subject I have read so far, and I have read many. It is a powerful critique of the simplistic demonizing of the dictatorial model of politics used by Trujillo. It also makes you understand why the guerrilla uprisings didn't succeed in the DR and they did in Cuba. Definitely a good one, I reviewed it @ my blog. In fact I may have recommended it to you gen! It's an important contriubution towards balanced understanding of that era, and the American historian doesn't have a brazen agenda pro or con Trujillo. My take, also informed by the Bosch book I mentioned, is that the jefe's emergence was almost necessary given the threats (from sugar and on the border) and opportunity for 'rational' reorganization of land. I also took notice of the section on the failure of the so-called barbudos from Cuba. Makes you wonder about the necessity of the Yankee invasion. You did recommended to me, will you now accuse me of book suggestion plagiarism? Bueno generoso from where I stand you are the one getting defensive, wound up and attacking cib. Cib remembered where he'd seen those words and called you on it. You got a bit lazy, you got caught, we all chuckled at your expense...and now unfortunately a small cloud of doubt may linger over your insights. Every one of us by posting political and historical opinions on this public site is posturing as a pseudo-intellectual with something original to say, and your momentary laziness costs you a tiny bit of credibility*. As Laut said let it go and be forgotten, because bringing attention to it isn't in your favor. It also gives the goon patrol an excuse to jump in with snide comments. *before anyone jokes on this I understand credibility on DT.com does not amount to much in life,m maybe zilch. We all have different motivations for coming here. Many of you do have interesting opinions and bodies of knowledge which you've revealed over the months on here. For those vets whove shown themselves to be informed people I'd like to believe behind your efforts and time in posting comments there is some integrity and some belief your opinions will matter to the thoughts of fellow Dominicans. Personally I don't aim to please but I do aim to be credible in dealing with you guys. |
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| #63 - Posted 1 April 2009, 1:56 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1984 | RE: top DR historian/book Quote: gouletcolonial previously said: not having a Haitian to abuse the beaners start bickering amongst themselves as usual GC do you even read books, or are Drudge Report and DT.com already pushing the limits of your literacy? Don't bother answering, the damage is done. |
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| #64 - Posted 1 April 2009, 1:56 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613 | RE: top DR historian/book Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Back to the topic at hand, here are some of another must haves (by the author Carlos Esteban Deive): 1- Los guerrilleros negros : esclavos fugitivos y cimarrones en Santo Domingo 2- Las emigraciones dominicanas a Cuba 3- Los cimarrones del Maniel de Neiba 4- Rebeldes y marginados : ensayos historicos 5- Heterodoxia e inquisición en Santo Domingo 1492-1822 6- Vodú y magia en Santo Domingo 7- Diccionario de dominicanismos The second entry on your list, how thorough is it? It's utterly reliable, cuz' the author have Pedro Henriquez Ureña as one of his sources, and Pedro was one of the ultimate authorities on the subject. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #65 - Posted 1 April 2009, 1:57 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 5683 | RE: top DR historian/book Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Get "Foundations of Despotism" Peasants, the Trujillo regime, and modernity in Dominican History, by Ricard Lee Turits. Best book on the subject I have read so far, and I have read many. It is a powerful critique of the simplistic demonizing of the dictatorial model of politics used by Trujillo. It also makes you understand why the guerrilla uprisings didn't succeed in the DR and they did in Cuba. Definitely a good one, I reviewed it @ my blog. In fact I may have recommended it to you gen! It's an important contriubution towards balanced understanding of that era, and the American historian doesn't have a brazen agenda pro or con Trujillo. My take, also informed by the Bosch book I mentioned, is that the jefe's emergence was almost necessary given the threats (from sugar and on the border) and opportunity for 'rational' reorganization of land. I also took notice of the section on the failure of the so-called barbudos from Cuba. Makes you wonder about the necessity of the Yankee invasion. You did recommended to me, will you now accuse me of book suggestion plagiarism? Bueno generoso from where I stand you are the one getting defensive, wound up and attacking cib. Cib remembered where he'd seen those words and called you on it. You got a bit lazy, you got caught, we all chuckled at your expense...and now unfortunately a small cloud of doubt may linger over your insights. Every one of us by posting political and historical opinions on this public site is posturing as a pseudo-intellectual with something original to say, and your momentary laziness costs you a tiny bit of credibility*. As Laut said let it go and be forgotten, because bringing attention to it isn't in your favor. It also gives the goon patrol an excuse to jump in with snide comments. *before anyone jokes on this I understand credibility on DT.com does not amount to much in life,m maybe zilch. We all have different motivations for coming here. Many of you do have interesting opinions and bodies of knowledge which you've revealed over the months on here. For those vets whove shown themselves to be informed people I'd like to believe behind your efforts and time in posting comments there is some integrity and some belief your opinions will matter to the thoughts of fellow Dominicans. Personally I don't aim to please but I do aim to be credible in dealing with you guys. Well said and ditto. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill |
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| #66 - Posted 1 April 2009, 2:02 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 5683 | RE: top DR historian/book Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Quote: gouletcolonial previously said: not having a Haitian to abuse the beaners start bickering amongst themselves as usual GC do you even read books, or are Drudge Report and DT.com already pushing the limits of your literacy? Don't bother answering, the damage is done. I didn't even notice that "beaners" comment. Goulet, you're an old jerk. The only reason the likes of you is even among us is because there are women in DR desperate enough to give the likes of you the time of day, otheriwse you would've been elsewhere were pootang is cheap and were money trumps age and physical unattractiveness. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill |
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| #67 - Posted 1 April 2009, 2:19 PM | |
Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401 | RE: top DR historian/book Let's get ready to rumble!!!!!!!! Although I agree with the comments by the Inquisior general. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far". |
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| #68 - Posted 1 April 2009, 2:27 PM | |
Location: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me Join date: December 2007 Member #: 9 Posts: 13562 | RE: top DR historian/book Then it is settled Plugs Biden and Don Genoroso are kindred spirits lets get ready to RUUMMMMMMBBBLLLEE |
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| #69 - Posted 1 April 2009, 2:29 PM | |
Location: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me Join date: December 2007 Member #: 9 Posts: 13562 | RE: top DR historian/book Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Quote: gouletcolonial previously said: not having a Haitian to abuse the beaners start bickering amongst themselves as usual GC do you even read books, or are Drudge Report and DT.com already pushing the limits of your literacy? Don't bother answering, the damage is done. Manny dont take yourself so seriously I dont take you seriously lets get ready to RUUMMMMMMBBBLLLEE |
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| #70 - Posted 1 April 2009, 2:31 PM | |
Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401 | RE: top DR historian/book Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Get "Foundations of Despotism" Peasants, the Trujillo regime, and modernity in Dominican History, by Ricard Lee Turits. Best book on the subject I have read so far, and I have read many. It is a powerful critique of the simplistic demonizing of the dictatorial model of politics used by Trujillo. It also makes you understand why the guerrilla uprisings didn't succeed in the DR and they did in Cuba. Definitely a good one, I reviewed it @ my blog. In fact I may have recommended it to you gen! It's an important contriubution towards balanced understanding of that era, and the American historian doesn't have a brazen agenda pro or con Trujillo. My take, also informed by the Bosch book I mentioned, is that the jefe's emergence was almost necessary given the threats (from sugar and on the border) and opportunity for 'rational' reorganization of land. I also took notice of the section on the failure of the so-called barbudos from Cuba. Makes you wonder about the necessity of the Yankee invasion. You did recommended to me, will you now accuse me of book suggestion plagiarism? Bueno generoso from where I stand you are the one getting defensive, wound up and attacking cib. Cib remembered where he'd seen those words and called you on it. You got a bit lazy, you got caught, we all chuckled at your expense...and now unfortunately a small cloud of doubt may linger over your insights. Every one of us by posting political and historical opinions on this public site is posturing as a pseudo-intellectual with something original to say, and your momentary laziness costs you a tiny bit of credibility*. As Laut said let it go and be forgotten, because bringing attention to it isn't in your favor. It also gives the goon patrol an excuse to jump in with snide comments. *before anyone jokes on this I understand credibility on DT.com does not amount to much in life,m maybe zilch. We all have different motivations for coming here. Many of you do have interesting opinions and bodies of knowledge which you've revealed over the months on here. For those vets whove shown themselves to be informed people I'd like to believe behind your efforts and time in posting comments there is some integrity and some belief your opinions will matter to the thoughts of fellow Dominicans. Personally I don't aim to please but I do aim to be credible in dealing with you guys. I Has it been worth it? Does the equation of time spent (time equals money) and personal satisfaction been worth it? I have to say that it has. It has proven to be a worthy exchange of ideas and new points of view. Things that are so necessary in our country at present. We don't get paid, for our comments, and many times we don't get recognition either. But I can say that I am a better human being after DT than before DT. And so many others that we have had an interchange with. Edited on 4/1/2009 11:57 PM by generoso. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far". |
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