| #1 - Posted 3 April 2009, 6:38 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057 | Bosch:Presidente en la frontera imperial, Rene Fortunato NOW ON DVD Reportaje "Detras del lente" sobre el largometraje documental "Bosch: Presidente en la frontera imperial", escrito y dirigido por Rene Fortunato. Muestra el proceso de investigacion y realizacion de esta nueva produccion del cine dominicano. NOW ON DVD where to buy this DVD in New York City or check out www.videocinepalau.com RIVAS TRAVEL 4321 Broadway (Cor 184th Street New York NY 10033 TEL 212-928-7000 RIVAS TRAVEL 1273 ST NICHOLAS AVE (Bet West 173 & 174 St) New York, NY 10033 212-928-0001 212-781-7250 RIVAS TRAVEL 2534 MARION AVENUE (Cor E Fordham Rd) Bronx NY 10458 TEL 718-295-5510 RIVAS TRAVEL -203 Dyckman St. Tel. 212-569-3047 RIVAS TRAVEL -4321 Broadway y 184 St. Tel. 212-928-7000 CONSULADO DOMINICANO, N.Y. Tel. 212-768-2480 Edited on 9/29/2009 9:09 PM by chillaxin201. |
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| #2 - Posted 3 April 2009, 7:38 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2009 Member #: 1932 Posts: 1271 | RE: Bosch:Presidente en la frontera imperial, Rene Fortunato Thanks for the post Chill.... I didnt know that was in the making! |
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| #3 - Posted 5 April 2009, 3:54 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057 | RE: Bosch:Presidente en la frontera imperial, Rene Fortunato your welcome I am looking for the video online if i find it, i will post it. Or Rip it and send it to you |
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| #4 - Posted 6 April 2009, 10:06 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1984 | RE: Bosch:Presidente en la frontera imperial, Rene Fortunato Put me on that mailing list chill |
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| #5 - Posted 6 April 2009, 10:15 AM | |
Location: United States, Quisqueya Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 9157 | RE: Bosch:Presidente en la frontera imperial, Rene Fortunato Even though I sympathize with the subject matter, I have been critical in the past of the videos produced by Mr. Fortunato, and have found them amateurish, lacking, poorly edited, repetitive and boring. Mr. Fortunato has been more concentrated on the material profits of its videos more than the pure historical contributions, that they could represent. I sure hope that this new one is better edited, not as repetitious and with new materials and not the same old redone and recycled videos with the same tired music and photographs. Ignorance is temporary, stupidity lasts forever. |
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| #6 - Posted 6 April 2009, 10:20 AM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 5911 | RE: Bosch:Presidente en la frontera imperial, Rene Fortunato Quote: generoso previously said: Even though I sympathize with the subject matter, I have been critical in the past of the videos produced by Mr. Fortunato, and have found them amateurish, lacking, poorly edited, repetitive and boring. Mr. Fortunato has been more concentrated on the material profits of its videos more than the pure historical contributions, that they could represent. I sure hope that this new one is better edited, not as repetitious and with new materials and not the same old redone and recycled videos with the same tired music and photographs. I agree with your assesment. Fortunato's work comes across as something put together by a film student albeit a competent one. His documentaries do indeed have an amateurish feel to them. But he's the only one putting out this kind of material right now (as far as I'm aware) so he's always had my support. I own some of his documentaries from the past I intend to own this one as well. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill |
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| #7 - Posted 6 April 2009, 10:34 AM | |
Location: United States, Quisqueya Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 9157 | RE: Bosch:Presidente en la frontera imperial, Rene Fortunato Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Even though I sympathize with the subject matter, I have been critical in the past of the videos produced by Mr. Fortunato, and have found them amateurish, lacking, poorly edited, repetitive and boring. Mr. Fortunato has been more concentrated on the material profits of its videos more than the pure historical contributions, that they could represent. I sure hope that this new one is better edited, not as repetitious and with new materials and not the same old redone and recycled videos with the same tired music and photographs. I agree with your assesment. Fortunato's work comes across as something put together by a film student albeit a competent one. His documentaries do indeed have an amateurish feel to them. But he's the only one putting out this kind of material right now (as far as I'm aware) so he's always had my support. I own some of his documentaries from the past I intend to own this one as well. There is huge untapped market on the production of high quality and with historical recreations of the many subjects that will educate as well as entertain the Dominicans. Instead of marketing the "novelas" melodramas for obvious material reasons, the otherwise empty subject matter could be done with a historical base and re-enacted in the form of novelas. Imagine the attraction of the viewing public for a "novela" that will bring to the TV screen the life of Duarte. Or the battles against the Haitians. Or the Taino indians struggles and mass suicides. Or life under the Haitian occupation. Or the brave Dominican military leaders ( such as your ancestors). And so on. Ignorance is temporary, stupidity lasts forever. |
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| #8 - Posted 6 April 2009, 10:39 AM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 5911 | RE: Bosch:Presidente en la frontera imperial, Rene Fortunato Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Even though I sympathize with the subject matter, I have been critical in the past of the videos produced by Mr. Fortunato, and have found them amateurish, lacking, poorly edited, repetitive and boring. Mr. Fortunato has been more concentrated on the material profits of its videos more than the pure historical contributions, that they could represent. I sure hope that this new one is better edited, not as repetitious and with new materials and not the same old redone and recycled videos with the same tired music and photographs. I agree with your assesment. Fortunato's work comes across as something put together by a film student albeit a competent one. His documentaries do indeed have an amateurish feel to them. But he's the only one putting out this kind of material right now (as far as I'm aware) so he's always had my support. I own some of his documentaries from the past I intend to own this one as well. There is huge untapped market on the production of high quality and with historical recreations of the many subjects that will educate as well as entertain the Dominicans. Instead of marketing the "novelas" melodramas for obvious material reasons, the otherwise empty subject matter could be done with a historical base and re-enacted in the form of novelas. Imagine the attraction of the viewing public for a "novela" that will bring to the TV screen the life of Duarte. Or the battles against the Haitians. Or the Taino indians struggles and mass suicides. Or life under the Haitian occupation. Or the brave Dominican military leaders ( such as your ancestors). And so on. We certainly have alot of stories to tell. Time will tell if those with the capabilities to tell our stories from a criollo point of view will arise. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill |
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| #9 - Posted 8 April 2009, 6:36 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057 | RE: Bosch:Presidente en la frontera imperial, Rene Fortunato I am currently a film student… His documentaries are the one for the reasons why I choose to become a film student. Another is because people seldom like to read anymore. Not even on the bus or train ride to and from work. Must like to watch videos via Ipod, Iphone laptop etc. And about the old documentaries, what is more important the visual stimulation or the message itself? |
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| #10 - Posted 9 April 2009, 11:07 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1984 | RE: Bosch:Presidente en la frontera imperial, Rene Fortunato Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: And about the old documentaries, what is more important the visual stimulation or the message itself? Glad to hear you are studying in this realm. Visual stimulation is not always great, History Channell and Discovery Channel for example make shows with a lot of glitzy graphics but the informational quality isn't always there on their history programs (nature they do well). As a viewer here are the things that make a documentary great to me: - narrator: you have to get a good narrator who reads at a pace that is not too fast but not too slow, and who engages you. Audio should be very crisp Narration in the Trujillo films I found lacking. - interviews : anyone can dig up the books and read details, what makes a documentary good is a lot of interviews from both people involved directly in the events with fresh insights into the motivations of the power players, and also insights from some average people who lived through it telling. Also be fair & balanced and select at least one interviewee with con opinions. - footage: a lot of footage from the era. Mr. Fortunato does well on this. - professional presentation: the transitions, the font of the labels etc. most of us can tell something done by an amateur as opposed to something well designed. Mr. Fortunato needs work especially in this area. This morning I re-watched one by PBS called Commanding Heights ( http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/ ). That is what I call top notch production. You wouldn't like the topics and politics of that one chill, but check it out and you'll see what documentaries should be like. |
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