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Look "taky", let me drop something on you. Not everything is some "whites" doing, some things are OBJECTIVELY true. "Blacks" being genetically inferior is not one of them. But North Africans being genetically different than Sub-Saharans is. This Afrocentric "Egypt is black" nonsense has long been debunked. The people living there are neither "Black" nor Arab, but a north African people. The Berbers and other north Africans closely resemble southern Europeans. And while SSA is extremely genetically diverse and should not be lumped, I would argue that with the exception of the !kung,mbuti, and other non-bantu expansion related people, that most SSA people are much more related than they are to northern Africans or these pre-bantu hunter/gatherers. This is due to them being desencended from the Bantu expansion (which was quite a bloody and oppressive expansion [see: genocide/displacement/subjugation] of pre-Bantu peoples.
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#182 - Posted 5 July 2009, 1:08 PM
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taky1 previously said:


Your calling me "AFRONAZIS" is your attempt to minimized
your own NAZIS leanings, its a tactic used here by Dominicans
the likes of you.I know that you have a vendetta against me because
of what I said to Lautaro. You and the likes might as well takes the "Nazi"
off of the AFRO, because the "AFRO" that apply to people of African decent
(mainly the dark skinned ones) share you and the likes equal aversions,
the truth be told even more so than the "NAZIS" part where the "aversions"
is actually supposedly

The likes of you even go as far as to deny that (racism) exists
Oh and it spell "TAKY"


For your info, I don´t need Fred nor the help of anyone else to pulverize your insignificant and nonsensical arguments against us. The only reason behind your crying victory like a mindless imbecile is that I have left the matter drop, cuz´anyone that have ever visited the "Racism among dominicans" thread can ascertain with their own eyes that I have destroyed your arguments time and again, and not only me, but also USADR and Cibaeño75, whom you could not help yourself but kiss his arse when he got back in typical low grade moron and amemao manner (as if your brownnosing and bootlicking to Tupapaupa would not be disgusting enough by itself, getting on his good side so as to avoid getting your arse handed to you by him). To try and reason with the likes of you is the same as plowing into the ocean, so I don´t feel the need to demonstrate a superiority that my earlier writings have done a marvelous job in demonstrating in the first place. Like I told your dear comrade in trolling named CaonaboHayti, you afro supremacists don´t hold the moral high ground, so you might as well cut the nonsense while you still have the chance. The DR is not more racist than any of the countries closer to your heart (Cuba, Jamaica, the British West Indies, Nigeria or the US), and in some instances, it could be said that it´s more tolerant and diverse than any of them.

PS: Fred is canadian, by the way, so you might as well drop the "you racist dominican" finger pointing at him, if you don´t want to appear more foolish than you already do, which is saying something.
Edited on 7/5/2009 2:06 PM by Lautaro.
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#183 - Posted 5 July 2009, 1:34 PM
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Lautaro gives Tacky the old pinata stick wack wack I am a Canadian /American {USA}----a Canadian is an unarmed American with a health plan and please call me Dobbsy
Edited on 7/5/2009 2:00 PM by FredCDobbs.
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#184 - Posted 5 July 2009, 2:56 PM
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Quote:
Lautaro previously said:

Quote:
taky1 previously said:


Your calling me "AFRONAZIS" is your attempt to minimized
your own NAZIS leanings, its a tactic used here by Dominicans
the likes of you.I know that you have a vendetta against me because
of what I said to Lautaro. You and the likes might as well takes the "Nazi"
off of the AFRO, because the "AFRO" that apply to people of African decent
(mainly the dark skinned ones) share you and the likes equal aversions,
the truth be told even more so than the "NAZIS" part where the "aversions"
is actually supposedly

The likes of you even go as far as to deny that (racism) exists
Oh and it spell "TAKY"


For your info, I don´t need Fred nor the help of anyone else to pulverize your insignificant and nonsensical arguments against us. The fact that you´re crying victory like the mindless imbecile that you are is that I have left the matter drop, cuz´anyone that have ever visited the Racism among dominicans´ thread can ascertain with their own eyes that I have destroyed your arguments time and again, and not only me, but also USADR and Cibaeño75, whom you could not help yourself but kiss his arse when he got back in typical low grade moron and amemao manner (as if your brownnosing and bootlicking to Tupapaupa would not be disgusting enough by itself). To try and reason with the likes of you is the same as plowing into the ocean, so I don´t feel the need to demonstrate a superiority that my earlier writings have done a marvelous job in demonstrating in the first place. Like I told your dear comrade in trolling named CaonaboHayti, you afro supremacists don´t hold the moral high ground, so you might as well cut the nonsense while you still have the chance. The DR is not more racist than any of the countries closer to your heart (Cuba, Jamaica, the British West Indies, Nigeria or the US), and in some instances, it could be said that it´s more tolerant and diverse than any of them.

Look , l welcome Cibaeño75 back to DT because I found him to
be more balance and rational on many issue unlike you who seem to
be consumed by your own emotions and biases. I am not "crying" no "victory"
whatsoever I am in no competition, you got that wrong. You or no one else
"destroyed" no "arguments" of mine on the "Racism among dominicans´ thread"
or anywhere else on DT.

The exchanged that I have with you and USADR who try
to ganged up on me on that tread, what you and he did was exposed your
own anti Black and (racists) biases and hate, and how dear you and he hold
to eurocentric white supremacist ideology, mix with hypocrisy and ignorance,
including ignorance of other Caribbean countries such as Jamaica.
So with that I don't know what arguments you claiming to "destroy"

.And contrary
to what you said: me and Cibaeño75 did not have a debate on the topic of
the tread during the two or three small exchange between me and he.
Seems he just wasn't as hurt by it like YOU and USDR - and VacAnus( who is
the imbecile and not me) who's hurt seem to lost a long long long time.

How dare you accused me of "brownnosing,bootlicking" and kissing anyone's "arse" on
here? Me and Tupapaupa posts compliments each other in many cases,
moreover Tupapaupa is a decent fair and intelligent Dominican, so naturally we clicked

Its clear by now that anyone who valued anything "afro" which is a term
denoting people of African descent is a "supremacists" or some other supposedly
aversions to you and the likes.

I know more about Jamaica than "Cuba" British West Indies USA"
"Nigeria" is a real low blow since it embody the very essence of what
many Dominicans detested and there is no way the anti Black
(racism) in the DR and among some Dominicans can be compare to a
place like Jamaica in that regard.

"typical low grade moron" are you and the likes and it show
in your(s) rebuttals and posts including this one I am responding too

The likes of you got no integrity nor rationality, just what suites your (race) color
base hate driven ends

Edited on 7/5/2009 3:32 PM by taky1.
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#185 - Posted 5 July 2009, 3:41 PM
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PS: Fred is canadian, by the way, so you might as well drop the "you racist dominican" finger pointing at him, if you don´t want to appear more foolish than you already do, which is saying something.


You already look like the fool, There are people in Canada who are bigots too
You would rather tell yourself that I am "foolish" because you doesn't like
what I said about you
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#186 - Posted 5 July 2009, 3:42 PM
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Quote:
taky1 previously said:

Quote:
Lautaro previously said:

Quote:
taky1 previously said:


Your calling me "AFRONAZIS" is your attempt to minimized
your own NAZIS leanings, its a tactic used here by Dominicans
the likes of you.I know that you have a vendetta against me because
of what I said to Lautaro. You and the likes might as well takes the "Nazi"
off of the AFRO, because the "AFRO" that apply to people of African decent
(mainly the dark skinned ones) share you and the likes equal aversions,
the truth be told even more so than the "NAZIS" part where the "aversions"
is actually supposedly

The likes of you even go as far as to deny that (racism) exists
Oh and it spell "TAKY"


For your info, I don´t need Fred nor the help of anyone else to pulverize your insignificant and nonsensical arguments against us. The fact that you´re crying victory like the mindless imbecile that you are is that I have left the matter drop, cuz´anyone that have ever visited the Racism among dominicans´ thread can ascertain with their own eyes that I have destroyed your arguments time and again, and not only me, but also USADR and Cibaeño75, whom you could not help yourself but kiss his arse when he got back in typical low grade moron and amemao manner (as if your brownnosing and bootlicking to Tupapaupa would not be disgusting enough by itself). To try and reason with the likes of you is the same as plowing into the ocean, so I don´t feel the need to demonstrate a superiority that my earlier writings have done a marvelous job in demonstrating in the first place. Like I told your dear comrade in trolling named CaonaboHayti, you afro supremacists don´t hold the moral high ground, so you might as well cut the nonsense while you still have the chance. The DR is not more racist than any of the countries closer to your heart (Cuba, Jamaica, the British West Indies, Nigeria or the US), and in some instances, it could be said that it´s more tolerant and diverse than any of them.

Look , l welcome Cibaeño75 back to DT because I found him to
be more balance and rational on many issue unlike you who seem to
be consumed by your own emotions and biases. I am not "crying" no "victory"
whatsoever I am in no competition, you got that wrong. You or no one else
"destroyed" no "arguments" of mine on the "Racism among dominicans´ thread"
or anywhere else on DT.

The exchanged that I have with you and USADR who try
to ganged up on me on that tread, what you and he did was exposed your
own anti Black and (racists) biases and hate, and how dear you and he hold
to eurocentric white supremacist ideology, mix with hypocrisy and ignorance,
including ignorance of other Caribbean countries such as Jamaica.
So with that I don't know what arguments you claiming to "destroy"

.And contrary
to what you said: me and Cibaeño75 did not have a debate on the topic of
the tread during the two or three small exchange between me and he.
Seems he just wasn't as hurt by it like YOU and USDR - and VacAnus( who is
the imbecile and not me) who's hurt seem to lost a long long long time.

How dare you accused me of "brownnosing,bootlicking" and kissing anyone's "arse" on
here? Me and Tupapaupa posts compliments each other in many cases,
moreover Tupapaupa is a decent fair and intelligent Dominican, so naturally we clicked

Its clear by now that anyone who valued anything "afro" which is a term
denoting people of African descent is a "supremacists" or some other supposedly
aversions to you and the likes.

I know more about Jamaica than "Cuba" British West Indies USA"
"Nigeria" is a real low blow since it embody the very essence of what
many Dominicans detested and there is no way the anti Black
(racism) in the DR and among some Dominicans can be compare to a
place like Jamaica in that regard.

"typical low grade moron" are you and the likes and it show
in your(s) rebuttals and posts including this one I am responding too

The likes of you got no integrity nor rationality, just what suites your (race) color
base hate driven ends




Go tell that atrocious lie to this man, mr. low grade moron:

Racism in Jamaica

Keon West
(In a letter to the Editor)

AS JAMES Byrd was travelling alone down that old road in a small town in Texas, I am certain that he did not see it coming. Minutes later, while he watched as pieces of his black body ripped off into tiny chunks of red on the asphalt he must have wished that he had. When the will to fight the oppression found in society wanes I tell myself the tale of this man strapped to the back of a truck and dragged for miles to remind myself that racism by itself can kill.

But that was in the United States of America, where blacks make up an insignificant 12 per cent of the population. Here, in Jamaica, the land I longed to return to since my steps on the soil of Macalester College, things were different. We were not racist. How could we be? Our Prime Minister was Black, our most famous musical artistes were Black, the police are mostly Black. We certainly could not have the same problems as the racist United States of America.

Last night however, I watched the Miss Universe 2004 competition, I sat back in awe at the outstanding whiteness of the woman Jamaica had chosen to represent us. Nothing is wrong with that. She appeared to be a very intelligent and attractive young woman. However, the tendency of a country filled with Blacks from the ghettos to the Parliament to produce representatives that were always closer to the White side of the spectrum, bothered me.

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This bothered state continued as I remembered the Sunshine Snacks advertisement that hung over Waterloo Road. Six children. No Blacks, just Browns. Then the Macdonald's billboard close to the foot of Beverly Hills. Four people, just one Black. Memories of my own life rushed back to me, of girls who were teased simply for being very dark, of who the most sought-after girls and boys were in school, and the disturbing habit that many of them had of being Brown. Who are these Browns? This varies from person to person, from day to day. I like to think of them as anyone who is clearly part Black and part something else, be it Chinese, Indian, White or whatever race you want to dream up.

To make it easier for yourself, simply think of all the people you know of who have darker skin than you do. Ask yourself, are they richer or poorer than you are? Now ask the same question using all the people you know of with lighter skin than you have. Then try the two questions using the quality 'good-looking', and if you are still in high-school, try popular.

How many beggars, windshield-wipers, and 'madmen' can you think of with light brown skin? How many very dark doctors, lawyers or Miss Jamaicas can you think of? If your life is anything like mine, you might also start to hear the voice of Trevor David Rhone's Miss Agatha (from Old Story Time) singing in the streets. She tells us to keep away from "Black Sambo" and urges us toward Miss Margaret, because she has tall hair and light brown skin, and she is 'advancement'.

But who cares? Why should it matter in Jamaica if light skin is mysteriously correlated with money, power, and perceived good looks? It matters because it points to the racism that sadly exists in our own country. What we see is just the tip of the iceberg, and the situation extends to include how we Jamaicans are treated in restaurants, airports, on the road, and in the police station. Racism, even seemingly subtle and harmless racism, when left unchecked, can be very, very dangerous. If Jamaica ignores her racism, like James Byrd, one day she may not know what hit her.

KEON WEST

kwest@macalester.edu

29 Shenstone Drive, Kingston 6

source: http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20040612/cleisure/cleisure3.html

As I said earlier, your moral high ground is just an illusion, so you might as well drop the finger pointing. You are no better than us.
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#187 - Posted 5 July 2009, 3:47 PM
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Lautaro gives Tacky the old pinata stick wack wack I am a Canadian /American {USA}----a Canadian is an unarmed American with a health plan and please call me Dobbsy

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Quote:
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Lautaro gives Tacky the old pinata stick wack wack I am a Canadian /American {USA}----a Canadian is an unarmed American with a health plan and please call me Dobbsy

I know when people are hurt by something, they turn into TROLL
following those who hurts them around TROLLING


That's rich coming from someone who followed me to the "Haiti's Future" thread in order to vent his hateful supremacists posts. But then, my case is already made, cuz' your silence about mr. West's letter above is more than revealing about your H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y. Want me to spell it again for you? You shouldn't throw stones when your own ceiling is made of glass.
Edited on 7/5/2009 4:00 PM by Lautaro.
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#189 - Posted 5 July 2009, 4:05 PM
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Psshhh
Please show me a country where they don't choose the lightest people to represent them in commercials, ads etc.? Even places like Congo choose the lightest women they can find to represent them in beauty pageants. I doubt the average Dominican looks like Amelia Vega and I doubt the average Mexican looks like the people portrayed in telenovelas. Even in the US, they choose biracials to play the "token black guy" role. All those cute little "black" kids with the loose curls you see in commercials are most likely biracial.




Tell that to taky, who seems to ignore the fact that neither Jamaica nor Nigeria (nor anywhere else on this planet, for that matter) is the racial utopia that he's believing and portraying them to be.
Edited on 7/5/2009 4:12 PM by Lautaro.
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#190 - Posted 5 July 2009, 5:13 PM
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This "Sub-Saharan African" argument is nothing but a word taken
from the high seats of White supremacists view of the African continent
and the world.


taky I in many senses agree. when you hear people using this phrase you can expect to see their white-race-border-patrol badge before long.
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