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#41 - Posted 2 July 2009, 12:22 PM
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it remains to be seen if our allegedly brasilian friend is hear to share history or to bait people.

I do have to say it is a shame the Taino thread is on the way to 400 comments, but we have not cultivated this one to the same extent. on that note another thanks to yumnuk who has always been a diligent member of the forum when it comes to sharing history.

brasilia I may be able to dig the numbers up for you when I get home tonight, but as I said I'll wait and see if you really care or are here to bait people for fun.

I highly doubt the troll going under various Brazilian themed handles is here to do anything but project his own brand of AfroNazism.

Now regarding this thread, I too am very curious as to our exact African heritage, but the records are very sketchy. DR never developed into a large slavist society, one of the things that seperate us from the rest of the Afrodiasporic people in the Americas. We never imported large amounts, Afrodescendancy admixture is high because of generations and generations of miscegenation and white flight. Our culture is a blend of Euro/Afro/Indo components, our African population was highly Hispanicized from a very early period. Notice how Cuba has a much stronger African influenced culture.
The groups that are specifically mentioned:
1) Ladinos (Senegambians, Guineans, Moors, Conversos) via Spain
2) Senegambians, in particular the Muslim Wolof via Africa
3) West Indian Cocolos via the lesser Antilles
4) African Americans (limited to Samana) via the USA
5) Some slaves that escaped the French side

Baracutei will reveal some very startling results of our African ancestry which seem to be very uncommon. It's only from one study, but it's a start.
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#42 - Posted 2 July 2009, 12:23 PM
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RE: Dominicans Celebrating African Culture
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HateroPardo previously said:

it remains to be seen if our allegedly brasilian friend is hear to share history or to bait people.

I do have to say it is a shame the Taino thread is on the way to 400 comments, but we have not cultivated this one to the same extent. on that note another thanks to yumnuk who has always been a diligent member of the forum when it comes to sharing history.

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Can anyone tell me what was the population of Semana when all these former slaves immigrated from the U.S.?


brasilia I may be able to dig the numbers up for you when I get home tonight, but as I said I'll wait and see if you really care or are here to bait people for fun.


just dig the numbers up. I'm here in Semana now and I am simply amazed of the people I see. They are all Dominicans. I talked to one, she's 82 years old and clearly she is not Haitian. Actually got mad at me when I asked her the question. I'm on a fact finding mission and I want to know all the places I need to visit to complete what I'm doing.

I'll be here until September 3rd, so I have plenty of time and money.



Brasil you are in Semana now? That's great!!! I am just as curious as you are. I did not know we had any African ancestry in us, I certainly did not know that African slaves from the United States migrated to the Dominican Republic.

My mother is alot darker than me and I was always of the opinion that she was merely a darker "indio". But if there were African slaves in the Dominican Republic then that would greatly changed my perspective on the matter.

I was born in Semana, I lived there until I was two years old and we moved to Santiago. I never knew this about Semana history until I read it here today. Thanks, and please post more information about this. I really am interested.
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#43 - Posted 2 July 2009, 12:27 PM
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HateroPardo previously said:

it remains to be seen if our allegedly brasilian friend is hear to share history or to bait people.

I do have to say it is a shame the Taino thread is on the way to 400 comments, but we have not cultivated this one to the same extent. on that note another thanks to yumnuk who has always been a diligent member of the forum when it comes to sharing history.

brasilia I may be able to dig the numbers up for you when I get home tonight, but as I said I'll wait and see if you really care or are here to bait people for fun.

I highly doubt the troll going under various Brazilian themed handles is here to do anything but project his own brand of AfroNazism.

Now regarding this thread, I too am very curious as to our exact African heritage, but the records are very sketchy. DR never developed into a large slavist society, one of the things that seperate us from the rest of the Afrodiasporic people in the Americas. We never imported large amounts, Afrodescendancy admixture is high because of generations and generations of miscegenation and white flight. Our culture is a blend of Euro/Afro/Indo components, our African population was highly Hispanicized from a very early period. Notice how Cuba has a much stronger African influenced culture.
The groups that are specifically mentioned:
1) Ladinos (Senegambians, Guineans, Moors, Conversos) via Spain
2) Senegambians, in particular the Muslim Wolof via Africa
3) West Indian Cocolos via the lesser Antilles
4) African Americans (limited to Samana) via the USA
5) Some slaves that escaped the French side

Baracutei will reveal some very startling results of our African ancestry which seem to be very uncommon. It's only from one study, but it's a start.


There were african slaves in the Dominican Republic? When? I did'nt know this either. What do you mean by "Hispanicized". That they spoke Spanish? Are'nt they still African? Is there any area on the internet I can research all this? This is simply new to me.
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#44 - Posted 2 July 2009, 12:45 PM
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I am so rolling on the floor at this moment!
Edited on 7/2/2009 12:45 PM by Eriliza.
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#45 - Posted 2 July 2009, 12:45 PM
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HateroPardo previously said:

it remains to be seen if our allegedly brasilian friend is hear to share history or to bait people.

I do have to say it is a shame the Taino thread is on the way to 400 comments, but we have not cultivated this one to the same extent. on that note another thanks to yumnuk who has always been a diligent member of the forum when it comes to sharing history.

brasilia I may be able to dig the numbers up for you when I get home tonight, but as I said I'll wait and see if you really care or are here to bait people for fun.

I highly doubt the troll going under various Brazilian themed handles is here to do anything but project his own brand of AfroNazism.

Now regarding this thread, I too am very curious as to our exact African heritage, but the records are very sketchy. DR never developed into a large slavist society, one of the things that seperate us from the rest of the Afrodiasporic people in the Americas. We never imported large amounts, Afrodescendancy admixture is high because of generations and generations of miscegenation and white flight. Our culture is a blend of Euro/Afro/Indo components, our African population was highly Hispanicized from a very early period. Notice how Cuba has a much stronger African influenced culture.
The groups that are specifically mentioned:
1) Ladinos (Senegambians, Guineans, Moors, Conversos) via Spain
2) Senegambians, in particular the Muslim Wolof via Africa
3) West Indian Cocolos via the lesser Antilles
4) African Americans (limited to Samana) via the USA
5) Some slaves that escaped the French side

Baracutei will reveal some very startling results of our African ancestry which seem to be very uncommon. It's only from one study, but it's a start.


There were african slaves in the Dominican Republic? When? I did'nt know this either. What do you mean by "Hispanicized". That they spoke Spanish? Are'nt they still African? Is there any area on the internet I can research all this? This is simply new to me.



IT is new information for me as well sista. I am here in Semana and will share everything I find out with you. Send me an email and your telephone and we can talk more about this. Okay? I am completely surprised as to what I discovered in just one day of research.

I am reading above that slaves escaped the French side, but the Spanish was in the Dominican Republic many, many years before the French. I need to find out if the Spainards brought African slaves to the Island of Hispanola before the French arrived, if that is so then much of my research will be focus on the population of the D.R. doing this period and the discovery of any evidence here in the D.R. about this African ancestry. I will certainly keep you informed.
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#46 - Posted 2 July 2009, 12:52 PM
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just dig the numbers up. I'm here in Semana now and I am simply amazed of the people I see. They are all Dominicans. I talked to one, she's 82 years old and clearly she is not Haitian. Actually got mad at me when I asked her the question. I'm on a fact finding mission and I want to know all the places I need to visit to complete what I'm doing.

I'll be here until September 3rd, so I have plenty of time and money.



no I'll wait and see as I said. I have paid for my collection so that I don't have to rely on the internet for my education. wikipedia and CIA factbook are sad replacements for the work of real scholars. anyway since it is my time and money into building my library I get to be a picky snob about who I share with

you aren't winning points with this ridiculous other username.

however since you mention being well funded and having a ton of time I would recommend a trip to a bookstore. you can read Spanish right?
Edited on 7/2/2009 12:52 PM by HateroPardo.
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#47 - Posted 2 July 2009, 12:55 PM
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just dig the numbers up. I'm here in Semana now and I am simply amazed of the people I see. They are all Dominicans. I talked to one, she's 82 years old and clearly she is not Haitian. Actually got mad at me when I asked her the question. I'm on a fact finding mission and I want to know all the places I need to visit to complete what I'm doing.

I'll be here until September 3rd, so I have plenty of time and money.



no I'll wait and see as I said. I have paid for my collection so that I don't have to rely on the internet for my education. wikipedia and CIA factbook are sad replacements for the work of real scholars. anyway since it is my time and money into building my library I get to be a picky snob about who I share with

you aren't winning points with this ridiculous other username.

however since you mention being well funded and having a ton of time I would recommend a trip to a bookstore. you can read Spanish right?


Ok..... but I'm in the D.R., in need of the info now... Where can I find insite into this information HERE in the Dominican Republic while I am here?
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#48 - Posted 2 July 2009, 12:56 PM
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just dig the numbers up. I'm here in Semana now and I am simply amazed of the people I see. They are all Dominicans. I talked to one, she's 82 years old and clearly she is not Haitian. Actually got mad at me when I asked her the question. I'm on a fact finding mission and I want to know all the places I need to visit to complete what I'm doing.

I'll be here until September 3rd, so I have plenty of time and money.



no I'll wait and see as I said. I have paid for my collection so that I don't have to rely on the internet for my education. wikipedia and CIA factbook are sad replacements for the work of real scholars. anyway since it is my time and money into building my library I get to be a picky snob about who I share with

you aren't winning points with this ridiculous other username.

however since you mention being well funded and having a ton of time I would recommend a trip to a bookstore. you can read Spanish right?


Brasilia is on a fact finding mission to recruit sexual workers for his prostitution web sites,
Careful!

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#49 - Posted 2 July 2009, 12:57 PM
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Ok..... but I'm in the D.R., in need of the info now... Where can I find insite into this information HERE in the Dominican Republic while I am here?



ask your old lady friends, maybe if you can do it without offending them they'll point the way.

what did you say your business with these old ladies was again?
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Western African Civilization - Nok Culture




Until this day , little is known about the Nok Culture. Theres not much information about them except for their impressive terracottas and their skilful ways with Iron. This is because , the Noks did not record their lifestyle - or they recordings through scriptures etc have not been found or may have been destroyed. New discoveries had been found in an increasingly larger area, including the Middle Niger Valley and the Lower Benue Valley. the parts that could have exploded when fired (during mining) , other mining sites could well have contained more Nok terracottas , sciptures or evidence , but will never be found because they may have been destroyed when mining. Nok people are most famous for their Art and Iron.




HAVE THERE BEEN SIMILAR FINDINGS OF THIS KIND IN DOMINICAN REPUBLIC?



In reference to the specific Nok culture? It would not be possible as it is believed that civilization disappeared around 200 AD.

In regards to indigenous art in the Caribbean, the Taino we prolific in terms or scuplting and shaping a number of different totems as well as drawings and carvings.



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