| #51 - Posted 2 July 2009, 1:15 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 340 Posts: 923 | RE: Dominicans Celebrating African Culture Quote: DominicanWannabe previously said: Please be advised everyone, I am a troll. I'm part of the Pink Panther crew (Black Panthers is soooo 1960's), butt-buddies include Brasi/Brasilero/Brasilia & other LatinAmerican themed handles. Pink is the new black by the way. Why don't you go and spam African forums? In particular Liberian? They want nothing to do with being grouped together with African Americans. If you have something against Spain or the 'evil white man' don't involve us in your little racist idealogical war. Go try and hijack/claim other cultures/nationalities. |
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| #52 - Posted 2 July 2009, 1:18 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: July 2009 Member #: 3051 Posts: 100 | RE: Dominicans Celebrating African Culture Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: HateroPardo previously said: Quote: brasilia previously said: just dig the numbers up. I'm here in Semana now and I am simply amazed of the people I see. They are all Dominicans. I talked to one, she's 82 years old and clearly she is not Haitian. Actually got mad at me when I asked her the question. I'm on a fact finding mission and I want to know all the places I need to visit to complete what I'm doing. I'll be here until September 3rd, so I have plenty of time and money. no I'll wait and see as I said. I have paid for my collection so that I don't have to rely on the internet for my education. wikipedia and CIA factbook are sad replacements for the work of real scholars. anyway since it is my time and money into building my library I get to be a picky snob about who I share with you aren't winning points with this ridiculous other username. however since you mention being well funded and having a ton of time I would recommend a trip to a bookstore. you can read Spanish right? Brasilia is on a fact finding mission to recruit sexual workers for his prostitution web sites, Careful! Now guys, here we go again. Do I have to start my own website to get the discussion I want without the jealousy, the stupid complaints and cry babies thinking its an alternative motive behind everything posted? You guys want civil discussion, but what it on your own subject, your own terms. No opposing view points. You cry like "girlie" men to the site adminstrator about being hurt and offended. Toughin up and be the men you claim you are. I'm here in the D.R. working, not on any sex mission. About my "former" website. It was sold years ago. I did'nt need to search for anyone to be posted on the website, they came to me. I'm Brasilian, we do'nt search for women, they are drawn to us. Which is why we are 200 million strong after some 400 yrs and the D.R. is simply 9-10 million strong. Anyway, lets stay on topic. I simply want to know if there is a museum in the D.R. which is didicated to African ancestry in the D.R.? All the wise cracks and other comments is unnecessary. |
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| #53 - Posted 2 July 2009, 1:19 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, America Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2891 Posts: 830 | RE: Dominicans Celebrating African Culture Quote: USADR previously said: I highly doubt the troll going under various Brazilian themed handles is here to do anything but project his own brand of AfroNazism. It is definitely his own brand of something Quote: USADR previously said: Now regarding this thread, I too am very curious as to our exact African heritage, but the records are very sketchy. DR never developed into a large slavist society, one of the things that seperate us from the rest of the Afrodiasporic people in the Americas. We never imported large amounts, Afrodescendancy admixture is high because of generations and generations of miscegenation and white flight. Our culture is a blend of Euro/Afro/Indo components, our African population was highly Hispanicized from a very early period. Notice how Cuba has a much stronger African influenced culture. The groups that are specifically mentioned: 1) Ladinos (Senegambians, Guineans, Moors, Conversos) via Spain 2) Senegambians, in particular the Muslim Wolof via Africa 3) West Indian Cocolos via the lesser Antilles 4) African Americans (limited to Samana) via the USA 5) Some slaves that escaped the French side Baracutei will reveal some very startling results of our African ancestry which seem to be very uncommon. It's only from one study, but it's a start. I look forward to Bara's results! I'm especially interested in info on that first category, and yes info is scarce. Within my own family in the more African branch I have an uncle who says when our family arrived we were already Hispanicized black people. Those histories are a bit tough to investigate, and the waters are muddied by those on the side of the cosmic cult of pan-Africanism. |
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| #54 - Posted 2 July 2009, 1:21 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 3638 | RE: Dominicans Celebrating African Culture Quote: Boricua previously said: Quote: DominicanSista previously said: Quote: brasilia previously said: Quote: HateroPardo previously said: it remains to be seen if our allegedly brasilian friend is hear to share history or to bait people. I do have to say it is a shame the Taino thread is on the way to 400 comments, but we have not cultivated this one to the same extent. on that note another thanks to yumnuk who has always been a diligent member of the forum when it comes to sharing history. Quote: brasilia previously said: Can anyone tell me what was the population of Semana when all these former slaves immigrated from the U.S.? brasilia I may be able to dig the numbers up for you when I get home tonight, but as I said I'll wait and see if you really care or are here to bait people for fun. just dig the numbers up. I'm here in Semana now and I am simply amazed of the people I see. They are all Dominicans. I talked to one, she's 82 years old and clearly she is not Haitian. Actually got mad at me when I asked her the question. I'm on a fact finding mission and I want to know all the places I need to visit to complete what I'm doing. I'll be here until September 3rd, so I have plenty of time and money. Brasil you are in Semana now? That's great!!! I am just as curious as you are. I did not know we had any African ancestry in us, I certainly did not know that African slaves from the United States migrated to the Dominican Republic. My mother is alot darker than me and I was always of the opinion that she was merely a darker "indio". But if there were African slaves in the Dominican Republic then that would greatly changed my perspective on the matter. I was born in Semana, I lived there until I was two years old and we moved to Santiago. I never knew this about Semana history until I read it here today. Thanks, and please post more information about this. I really am interested. I didn't know Indians had nappy hair. Proving the adage that even a broken clock is right twice a day in your veiled dismissal of our amerindian heritage there is a kernel of what perhaps is some truth. Many years ago I read a book that many of you might find interesting concerning the possible African presence in pre-Columbian America: African presence in early America By Ivan Van Sertima http://books.google.com/books?id=uziKYgZAVS0C&pg=PA50&dq=africans+in+pre-columbian+americas Van Serima backs up his hypothesis with some pretty interesting facts. Edited on 7/2/2009 1:21 PM by cibaeño75. 'The past is never dead. In fact, it's not even past.' - William Faulkner |
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| #55 - Posted 2 July 2009, 1:25 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 3638 | RE: Dominicans Celebrating African Culture Quote: HateroPardo previously said: Quote: USADR previously said: I highly doubt the troll going under various Brazilian themed handles is here to do anything but project his own brand of AfroNazism. It is definitely his own brand of something Quote: USADR previously said: Now regarding this thread, I too am very curious as to our exact African heritage, but the records are very sketchy. DR never developed into a large slavist society, one of the things that seperate us from the rest of the Afrodiasporic people in the Americas. We never imported large amounts, Afrodescendancy admixture is high because of generations and generations of miscegenation and white flight. Our culture is a blend of Euro/Afro/Indo components, our African population was highly Hispanicized from a very early period. Notice how Cuba has a much stronger African influenced culture. The groups that are specifically mentioned: 1) Ladinos (Senegambians, Guineans, Moors, Conversos) via Spain 2) Senegambians, in particular the Muslim Wolof via Africa 3) West Indian Cocolos via the lesser Antilles 4) African Americans (limited to Samana) via the USA 5) Some slaves that escaped the French side Baracutei will reveal some very startling results of our African ancestry which seem to be very uncommon. It's only from one study, but it's a start. I look forward to Bara's results! I'm especially interested in info on that first category, and yes info is scarce. Within my own family in the more African branch I have an uncle who says when our family arrived we were already Hispanicized black people. Those histories are a bit tough to investigate, and the waters are muddied by those on the side of the cosmic cult of pan-Africanism. It may not be far from the truth. According to research by JA Rogers there were many plantations being worked by African slaves in southern Spain well before Columbus' arrival in the New World and the first African slaves to arrive in the New World (naturally arriving in Hispaniola) were already hispanicized. Also, mulattoes were not uncommon in the Canary islands and many colonial Spanish officials complained to the crown that some of the immigrants being sent from said islands were not white but indeed mulattoes. 'The past is never dead. In fact, it's not even past.' - William Faulkner |
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| #56 - Posted 2 July 2009, 1:27 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, America Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2891 Posts: 830 | RE: Dominicans Celebrating African Culture Quote: brasilia previously said: Now guys, here we go again. Do I have to start my own website to get the discussion I want without the jealousy, the stupid complaints and cry babies thinking its an alternative motive behind everything posted? You guys want civil discussion, but what it on your own subject, your own terms. No opposing view points. You cry like "girlie" men to the site adminstrator about being hurt and offended. Toughin up and be the men you claim you are. Anyway, lets stay on topic. I simply want to know if there is a museum in the D.R. which is didicated to African ancestry in the D.R.? All the wise cracks and other comments is unnecessary. brasilia first impressions die hard. plenty of people on this site disagree. with your bombastic arrival you bought yourself a reputation. if now all of a sudden you are really interested in 'civil discussion' about Dominicans you have quite a road to undo the reputation. besides you have never brought viewpoints. just like the chilindrina, who I see is back, you come on here yelling and accusing, cutting and pasting. NOW, after your tantrums and accusations, you want civil sharing of information so by all means go start another website. those who posses a certain knowledge have evry right to be snobs and deamnd discussion on their terms. don't like the terms, march down to the bookstore and put down your plentiful cash. but really you don't care and are just here to bait us. why not admit it and be honest? |
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| #57 - Posted 2 July 2009, 1:29 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 340 Posts: 923 | RE: Dominicans Celebrating African Culture Quote: brasilia previously said: Now guys, here we go again. Do I have to start my own website to get the discussion I want without the jealousy, the stupid complaints and cry babies thinking its an alternative motive behind everything posted? You guys want civil discussion, but what it on your own subject, your own terms. No opposing view points. You cry like "girlie" men to the site adminstrator about being hurt and offended. Toughin up and be the men you claim you are. I'm here in the D.R. working, not on any sex mission. About my "former" website. It was sold years ago. I did'nt need to search for anyone to be posted on the website, they came to me. I'm Brasilian, we do'nt search for women, they are drawn to us. Which is why we are 200 million strong after some 400 yrs and the D.R. is simply 9-10 million strong. Anyway, lets stay on topic. I simply want to know if there is a museum in the D.R. which is didicated to African ancestry in the D.R.? All the wise cracks and other comments is unnecessary. 1)Why was Brazil among the last to officially abolish slavery? Why were they the last to abolish the actual practice of slavery (which lasted much longer)? 2) Why are blacks or anyone of Afroadmixture practically absent in Brazilian television? Looking at Brazilian television is almost like looking at Portugese programming. 3) Why does Brazil hold one of the biggest gap between rich and poor? 4) Why did Brazil have an official blancamiento immigration policy to breed blacks out of existense? ____________________________________________________________________________ 1. Why did African Americans who immigrated to Liberia discriminate against the native Africans? 2. Why did African Americans set up a caste like system in Liberia in which they actively excluded native Africans from political power? 3. Why did African Americans insult/denigrate and basically dehumanize native Liberians? To the point that descendants of African Americans are called Americo-Liberians? Don't even try to come here with any arrogant posturing you race obsessed troll, when it comes to race relations Brazil doesn't hold a candle to DR. Get off your imaginary high horse, your low level trolling and layman/wikipedia knowledge won't work here. |
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| #58 - Posted 2 July 2009, 1:31 PM | |
Location: United States, Santo Domingo Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 4780 | RE: Dominicans Celebrating African Culture Quote: brasilia previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: HateroPardo previously said: Quote: brasilia previously said: just dig the numbers up. I'm here in Semana now and I am simply amazed of the people I see. They are all Dominicans. I talked to one, she's 82 years old and clearly she is not Haitian. Actually got mad at me when I asked her the question. I'm on a fact finding mission and I want to know all the places I need to visit to complete what I'm doing. I'll be here until September 3rd, so I have plenty of time and money. no I'll wait and see as I said. I have paid for my collection so that I don't have to rely on the internet for my education. wikipedia and CIA factbook are sad replacements for the work of real scholars. anyway since it is my time and money into building my library I get to be a picky snob about who I share with you aren't winning points with this ridiculous other username. however since you mention being well funded and having a ton of time I would recommend a trip to a bookstore. you can read Spanish right? Brasilia is on a fact finding mission to recruit sexual workers for his prostitution web sites, Careful! Now guys, here we go again. Do I have to start my own website to get the discussion I want without the jealousy, the stupid complaints and cry babies thinking its an alternative motive behind everything posted? You guys want civil discussion, but what it on your own subject, your own terms. No opposing view points. You cry like "girlie" men to the site adminstrator about being hurt and offended. Toughin up and be the men you claim you are. I'm here in the D.R. working, not on any sex mission. About my "former" website. It was sold years ago. I did'nt need to search for anyone to be posted on the website, they came to me. I'm Brasilian, we do'nt search for women, they are drawn to us. Which is why we are 200 million strong after some 400 yrs and the D.R. is simply 9-10 million strong. Anyway, lets stay on topic. I simply want to know if there is a museum in the D.R. which is didicated to African ancestry in the D.R.? All the wise cracks and other comments is unnecessary. I will show you the museum, If you are so tough Mr. Troll, why don't you reveal your coordinates so we can locate you and have a nice chat mano a mano? Pendejón. "Is better to light a candle than curse the darkness" Confucius |
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| #59 - Posted 2 July 2009, 1:34 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 340 Posts: 923 | RE: Dominicans Celebrating African Culture Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Proving the adage that even a broken clock is right twice a day in your veiled dismissal of our amerindian heritage there is a kernel of what perhaps is some truth. Many years ago I read a book that many of you might find interesting concerning the possible African presence in pre-Columbian America: African presence in early America By Ivan Van Sertima http://books.google.com/books?id=uziKYgZAVS0C&pg=PA50&dq=africans+in+pre-columbian+americas Van Serima backs up his hypothesis with some pretty interesting facts. Cib, Feel free to investigate his works, but just to let you know that guy has been discredited a thousand times over by many of his peers. He's an Afrocentrist, and like all other centrist will always present a very biased account. |
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| #60 - Posted 2 July 2009, 1:36 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 340 Posts: 923 | RE: Dominicans Celebrating African Culture Quote: BoricuaWannabe previously said: I often log on to cheer my favorite fellow trolls! Race trolls unite!! |
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