HateroPardo previously said:



brasilia why play this silly game? go buy the books, or earn some respect from those who could give you the info you seek.

yes there actually is a legitimate historical reason (various) why they did not just 'simply bring more from Africa'. the Spanish were principally interested in mining in South America. The Spanish were never good at slaving, the undisputed champions in the slave trade were the English. the English clearly were more interested in supplying their own colonies than selling Africans to Spain. in fact the Spanish were not good at trading period and had a retarded system of tariffs and Sevillian monopolistic centralization that made importing any of the inputs for plantations (tools, materials, expertise for the mills, and African slaves) , or exporting the final products not worthwhile. SO the backwards Spanish economic system did not make it profitable to make Santo Domingo a plantation colony ... unlike Brazil and the French, English and Dutch Caribbean. SO though slavery did go on in Santo Domingo during the 1500s and survived in some form right through 1822 it was never anywhere near the scale of the operations of the rest of the Caribbean. you can verify this by looking at eiter population over thos eras in Santo Domingo, or the meager amount of exports. the Spanish simply were not efficient or skilled enough at the Atlantic trade game. they were feudal conquerors, not pre-modern mercantilists like the northern Europeans.

by the time the Spanish caught on to the plantation game in the 1800s the slave trade was almost over. Santo Domingo was lost to them by this point and so their sugar period took place mostly in Cuba, and PR to a lesser degree. and so African descendants on the island have mostly come by way of the other colonies, or in the early period by way of Spain itself.

I can cite every last statement here but what are you willing to pay me

HateroPardo previously said:



brasilia why play this silly game? go buy the books, or earn some respect from those who could give you the info you seek.

yes there actually is a legitimate historical reason (various) why they did not just 'simply bring more from Africa'. the Spanish were principally interested in mining in South America. The Spanish were never good at slaving, the undisputed champions in the slave trade were the English. the English clearly were more interested in supplying their own colonies than selling Africans to Spain. in fact the Spanish were not good at trading period and had a retarded system of tariffs and Sevillian monopolistic centralization that made importing any of the inputs for plantations (tools, materials, expertise for the mills, and African slaves) , or exporting the final products not worthwhile. SO the backwards Spanish economic system did not make it profitable to make Santo Domingo a plantation colony ... unlike Brazil and the French, English and Dutch Caribbean. SO though slavery did go on in Santo Domingo during the 1500s and survived in some form right through 1822 it was never anywhere near the scale of the operations of the rest of the Caribbean. you can verify this by looking at eiter population over thos eras in Santo Domingo, or the meager amount of exports. the Spanish simply were not efficient or skilled enough at the Atlantic trade game. they were feudal conquerors, not pre-modern mercantilists like the northern Europeans.

by the time the Spanish caught on to the plantation game in the 1800s the slave trade was almost over. Santo Domingo was lost to them by this point and so their sugar period took place mostly in Cuba, and PR to a lesser degree. and so African descendants on the island have mostly come by way of the other colonies, or in the early period by way of Spain itself.

I can cite every last statement here but what are you willing to pay me

generoso previously said:



Masterful analysis, you deserve and A+.

HateroPardo previously said:


thank you generoso, means a lot coming from yourself. the problem with forums is those who:

have 'googled' this or that, or
read an entry in a free tourist guide called the CIA World Factbook, or
read on wikipedia some list of racial castes and internalized it

then wonder why we call them trolls when we respetfully disagree with their rants and they reply with more googling or with COMMENTS FROM YOUTUBE.

generoso previously said:



I will show you the museum, If you are so tough Mr. Troll, why don't you reveal your coordinates so we can locate you and have a nice chat mano a mano? Pendejón.

USADR previously said:



I agree, it was a good analysis. I would only add that regarding the slave trade, the Portugese were up to their necks from the very beginning 1400's/1500's), the English then dominated in later years up until the ending of it.

brasilia previously said:
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I did'nt see this comment before, but I thought I needed to respond to it. I'm tired of you male Dominicans thinking you are all tough. Let me run this info by you "girlie" men one more time. But before I do that, here you go. Plaza Rosada Local 12 (3th office at the left side) Las Terranas-Semana Peninsula, Dom. Rep. 809 241 5159.

I'm not from Spain, Holland, Germany, Canada. I am Brasiian-American. Born in the fevelas of Sao Paulo, Brasil. Tough and unafraid of anyone, especially a Dominican male. I have been visiting or living on and off in the country for 11 yrs. Every Dominican that his disrespected me or a member of my famliy has been "knock-out" cold. Dominicans are punks. And I have the long record of knockouts against them to prove it.

I'm here and so are 6 of my fellow U.S. Marines and U.S. Border Patrol Compadres. Not to help me, but to make certain its a fair battle. Leave your machete at home, we Americans are'nt cowards and we Brasilians do'nt play any games. Just ask Argentinans, Colombians, Paraguayans, and everyone else who land we have taken. Please hurry, I will only be here until Saturday. My birthday by the way.

HateroPardo previously said:



true USADR, I don't want to let the other Europeans off the hook. the French were clearly not slouches in this realm either, and they reaped what they sowed next door.

also no one should interpret what I said as exonerating Spaniards. a large part of the history of Santo Domingo is a testimony to their terrible administration of the Caribbean. it simply happens that because of the different approach and culture they brought to imperialism the story of Africans in DR is different (not better or worse) than in much of the rest of the Caribbean, including the other Greater Antilles. Just as the story of Africans in Haiti is different from everywhere else.

I know it is hard to believe for those in the Cosmic Cult of Pan-Africanism but blacks in all corners of the Diasporas can have their own local story and historical past just like white Europeans in different corners of this hemisphere have their own local story and historical past

USADR previously said:



I agree, it was a good analysis. I would only add that regarding the slave trade, the Portugese were up to their necks from the very beginning 1400's/1500's), the English then dominated in later years up until the ending of it.