AfroLatino previously said:



Oh I agree with you on that as you have made firm valid points as well as there are many ventage point this could be looked at to really grasp where I am coming from. There is the rosey way we hope as you said we should really just be viewed fro the human being we are, colored or not, and there is the reality way of how most actually do denigrade one with viewing themselves with a sense of superiority complex because of their glorification to European leneages. So I can agree with you or even comprehend understandably fully what you have pointed out, especially the very first few sentences of what you wrote above. As I even agree with you on the very last sentence regarding the resentful miscontentment between or among Haitians and Dominican due to mere historical antagonistic disagreement. Thus, as us being the new generation of Dominican or Haitian or in my case being both, how do we approach this in new light for improvement is all my constant contestation to erradicate most minds of the condescending ways they look at anything Africanized due to what White Europeans have conditioned most minds to think of them as being supreem.

I, for one, do not like to be labeled per assumption as what my skin look like, if I may make a slight deviation that may seem to many as a contradiction. However, I simply have a problem with that only because I have never seen a white person labeling/calling themselves as Euro-American not has it ever been petitioned for if their origins are from somewhere else just like a black person... Just like, I never said that it is not okay for one to accept his/her European leneage. I am just in discontent for those who glorify it over everything else that they are as to look down to thier African leneage as many actually do, but may still be denying. My Afrocentricity is not adamantly aiming at forcefully making people embrace their African ancestry alone and only, but I am advocating against those that look down upon people of color or of African descent as lower than humans as most Dominicans seem to be demonizing Haitians based on radical racial stand points and claim they do not want DR to be Africanized and seem to bare this affinity with wanting to be or claiming Tainos when evidently it is recorded that the Tainos wereor have come more or less to extinction for much of any percentage greater than 1% to have survived on the Island because the Spaniards anahilated that ethnic group or race on the Island. How many Dominicans want to believe that if much of any of the Tainos have survided that thety only did survived on the DR side and not on the Haiti? When strategic facts have proven that the Haitian side presented a greater chance for their survival because it was more montainuous which had even help the Black slave revolt to have succeed again the European French during the Haitian Revolution.

Me of all people cannot be racist nor have any Inferiorrity Complex because I am mixed as well and do not think less of myself because of any mixture my composition is made of. The misconception is, that is a term many seem to be using loosely these days by assuming that it is interchangeable for or with "lack of Identity". No, if anything, it is the other way around. When someone is aware of and accept all his or her mixture as you said, if anything else it should prove and mean rather that they have much identity because they have identified all of who they are indeed. Lack of identity or originalitybut to most Dominicans, as long as someone has any Haitian blood in them they view that someone as Haitian alone and say it with such a condescending attitude.

P.S: So withthat being said. How is that not a contradiction for Dominicans with them saying they want people to view them as a mixed race when they are trying to pick and chose with what such mixture should be of or adamantly like to contest Haitians at what constitute someone as mixed?

AfroLatino previously said:

I want or perhaps wish most of you would go make a research on:
- Massasoit (1580- 1661).
King Philip (His son).
- Plymouth Rock landing.

In the meantime, also look up:
- Arawaks.
- Caribs.
- Amerigo Vespucci.

For most Haitians and even Dominicans who may seem to be more embraceful of European leneage over any condescending views of anything Africanor they might have on here, I want you all to really research who the real habitants of Iberia as well as Spain were in the eras of 711 and 718's down to the 15Th Century by reading up on who the "Moors" were. So, one way or the other most Hispanic people are more African then they given themselves ackowledgement or recognition for to themselves.

Embracing Europeans all many of you wish, but had there have been any true disaccord between them, it would not be so unsurprisingly so that they are all part of the same pack (EU=European Union) dating back the times when most of their tyranical bad deeds were being conducted yet they never have been demonized how most Dominicans do Haitians of their Forefather Dessalines

cyberdragon previously said:


What we're trying to avoid is to use the Anglo's O.D.rule that for some reason, blacks sympathize, and use the right rule with the intention of being a separate people ourselves or be on our own boat if you will.
Dominicans of today have mixed blood of the treacherous Jews that were kicked out of Spain in 1492
and the slaves that were imported later on and If you are somehow suggesting that Moors were like the Rwandans or the Haitians then, Why the FVCK do we look so different form each other?.

cyberdragon previously said:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Libyan_Arabs.jpg
http://www.cedcc.psu.edu/khanjan/cRwanda/P1080894.JPG

These are average Dominicans:

http://www.mikesjournal.com/March%202006/Dominican%20Children.jpg

These are average Spaniards:
http://www.eyeonspain.com/spain-magazine/Images/schoolkids.jpg

These are average Haitians:
http://research.unc.edu/endeavors/fall2005/images/haitian_children_01.jpg

What we're trying to avoid is to use the Anglo's O.D.rule that for some reason, blacks sympathize, and use the right rule with the intention of being a separate people ourselves or be on our own boat if you will.
Dominicans of today have mixed blood of the treacherous Jews that were kicked out of Spain in 1492
and the slaves that were imported later on and If you are somehow suggesting that Moors were like the Rwandans or the Haitians then, Why the FVCK do we look so different form each other?.

AfroLatino previously said:



There you go with the adoration of features and characteristics that the Europeans have conditioned most minds to believe as what is beautiful to look at and glorified versus what to look down at and discriminativelly abstain from with condescended prejudice and viewed as inferior.

So I get it. Is this where you find the supreme superiority belief, content of your solace that in contempt you are happy that the average Dominican do not look like the folks on these picture?
http://www.cedcc.psu.edu/khanjan/cRwanda/P1080894.JPG
http://research.unc.edu/endeavors/fall2005/images/haitian_children_01.jpg

AfroLatino previously said:



There you go with the adoration of features and characteristics that the Europeans have conditioned most minds to believe as what is beautiful to look at and glorified versus what to look down at and discriminativelly abstain from with condescended prejudice and viewed as inferior.

So I get it. Is this where you find the supreme superiority belief, content of your solace that in contempt you are happy that the average Dominican do not look like the folks on these picture?
http://www.cedcc.psu.edu/khanjan/cRwanda/P1080894.JPG
http://research.unc.edu/endeavors/fall2005/images/haitian_children_01.jpg