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CONTINUATION In this same evil mood Dessalines returned to Port-Au-Prince and continued his terrible revenge. On general Dessalines return (Captain Perkins reported to Duckworth in April) He ordered all the whitemen then remaining in the town to be immediately put to death. The order was executed without the least ceremony, the Black soldiers being at liberty to satisfy their inclinations in the most barbarous manner, they having a thirst for the blood of these unfortunate people. Some they shot having tied them from 15 to 20 together, some they pricked to death with their bayonets. And others they tortured in such a manner too horrid to be described. In the span of 8 days no less than 800 were actually murdered by these assassins and their bodies thrown into the bogs and marshes to rot away. The White woman are spared provided they consent to live with the Black men as their wives, but should they refuse they would instantly be put to death or sent to the mountains to work on the plantations. I have been informed of eleven that were murdered for not consenting to the embraces of the Black brutes. ----- One a beautiful young lady who after being forced by col. Germaine a Negro and twenty five of his men to satisfy their brutish desires was later pricked to death with their bayonets. Even the mulatto women are in danger of their lives and particularly those who had lived with White men, being promised the same fate if they did not consent to live with the Black officers. Perkins believe that fifty white men had escaped and still hidden in the town, despite searches by the troops and that Dessalines had collected plunder to the value of a million dollars. On Monday the 25th March, Dessalines left Port-Au-Prince for Cap-Francois, there being at that place 1800 to 200 White people whom he is determined shall fall a sacrifice; to his vengeance in fact he thinks nothing of being the executioner himself, for he ordered a man to be brought to his chamber and while in conversation stabbed him with his poinard to his heart. At short intervals (one american resident wrote) we heard the pick axe thundering at the door of some devoted neighbor, and soon forcing it. Piercing shrieks almost immediately insued and these were followed by an expressive silence. The next minute the military party was heard proceeding to some other house to renew their work of death A proclamation was published in the newspaper, stating that the vengeance due to the crimes of the French had been sufficiently executed and inviting all who had escaped the massacre to appear on the parade, and receive tickets of protection after which it was prepared they might depend on perfect security. As the massacre had been expected, many hundred had contrived to secrete themselves; most of whom now came forth from their hiding places and appeared on the parade. But instead of receiving the promised tickets of protection. They were instantly led away to the place of execution and shot. Telemaque (The mayor) who had supported LeClerc and another officer expressed their horror at such scenes; and were punished by being compelled to hang with their own hands. His bloody work concluded, Dessalines published another declaration, pulsating with his own savage enthusiasm, condemning Toussaint for his leniency, praising himself for his ruthlessness. PART TWO FINAL.....
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Strange how someone who supposedly just arrived on this site is already missing people...LOLOL..Dios mio.

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If you knew the source and meaning of that quote you would understand....
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GIZMO I knew from the beginning of reading this fellows post on another thread, that he was a fake just like *******Hayti and other trolls. As the famous quote says "OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN FIRST WE PRACTICE TO DECEIVE"


I mean no disrespect; but I fail to see the point in having an intellectual exchange with someone who agrees with me. How do I know if my views have merit or are based on reality if not by putting them to the test. An exchange with someone who shares your views would go something like:

PERSON #1: We are great. We are right and everything is right with the world.
PERSON #2: Oh, yes indeed! We are great. We are right and everything is right with the world.
PERSON #1: I agree. We are great. We are right and everything is right with the world.
PERSON #2: Oh, yes indeed! We are great. We are right and everything is right with the world.
...Ad nauseum...adinfinitum...
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But, oh, what a wicked world it was that drove a man to sin....
Edited on 4/10/2009 12:39 AM by SabioRosa.
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Now, it's my turn !
Did you know what the French do to Guadeloupe ? They killed more than the half of all Slaves population in Guadeloupe and put slavery (After the french revolution slavery was abolished). They were doing the same thing at Haiti and it was the start of Haitian Revolution. I repeat it again, Dessalines was not a monster. In the first Haitian constitution of 1805 he create the freedom choice of religion ( like today in most country...) All citizens of Haiti, regardless of skin color, to be known as "Black" – including the Poles and Germans .

"12. No whiteman of whatever nation he may be, shall put his foot on this territory with the title of master or proprietor, neither shall he in future acquire any property therein.

13. The preceding article cannot in the smallest degree affect white woman who have been naturalized Haytians by Government, nor does it extend to children already born, or that may be born of the said women. The Germans and Polanders naturalized by government are also comprized (sic) in the dispositions of the present article. "

First Haitian Constitution,

http://thelouvertureproject.org/index.php?title=Haitian_Constitution_of_1805

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Now, it's my turn !
Did you know what the French do to Guadeloupe ? They killed more than the half of all Slaves population in Guadeloupe and put slavery (After the french revolution slavery was abolished). They were doing the same thing at Haiti and it was the start of Haitian Revolution. I repeat it again, Dessalines was not a monster. In the first Haitian constitution of 1805 he create the freedom choice of religion ( like today in most country...) All citizens of Haiti, regardless of skin color, to be known as "Black" – including the Poles and Germans .

"12. No whiteman of whatever nation he may be, shall put his foot on this territory with the title of master or proprietor, neither shall he in future acquire any property therein.

13. The preceding article cannot in the smallest degree affect white woman who have been naturalized Haytians by Government, nor does it extend to children already born, or that may be born of the said women. The Germans and Polanders naturalized by government are also comprized (sic) in the dispositions of the present article. "

First Haitian Constitution,

http://thelouvertureproject.org/index.php?title=Haitian_Constitution_of_1805

Have a great day !


Not a monster?????? OK then a rapist, torturer, mass murderer. I posted this in another thread.
Dessalines better known for his "Koupe tet- Boule Kay" (cut their heads and burn their homes) genocide on hundreds if not thousands of men, and of innocent women and children both white, and mulatto, and a mass rapist, torturer, and mutilator of innocent Dominican civilians.
Your hero Dessalines, the illiterate mass murderer with his black supremacist policies of genocide and extermination was the ideologist of "agrarian militarism" (read historian Trouillot),who gave the choice of ex-slaves to either become soldiers or remain as laborers. Leading the "1/3 revolution" meaning that now the slave would"only" have to work 2/3 as much as when they were slaves.
Emperor Dessalines also was a black supremacist, not only for his hate and extermination of whites,
mulattoes and his genocidal policies, but also for his racist constitution that forbade whites from owning properties in Haiti.
The majority of Haitians today, are proud of this most brutal and blood thirsty maniac and as you know he is still venerated in remembrance in your Haitian national anthem "La Dessalinienne".
http://www.truveo.com/La-Dessalinienne/id/952015043

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Now, it's my turn !
Did you know what the French do to Guadeloupe ? They killed more than the half of all Slaves population in Guadeloupe and put slavery (After the french revolution slavery was abolished). They were doing the same thing at Haiti and it was the start of Haitian Revolution. I repeat it again, Dessalines was not a monster. In the first Haitian constitution of 1805 he create the freedom choice of religion ( like today in most country...) All citizens of Haiti, regardless of skin color, to be known as "Black" – including the Poles and Germans .

"12. No whiteman of whatever nation he may be, shall put his foot on this territory with the title of master or proprietor, neither shall he in future acquire any property therein.

13. The preceding article cannot in the smallest degree affect white woman who have been naturalized Haytians by Government, nor does it extend to children already born, or that may be born of the said women. The Germans and Polanders naturalized by government are also comprized (sic) in the dispositions of the present article. "

First Haitian Constitution,

http://thelouvertureproject.org/index.php?title=Haitian_Constitution_of_1805

NOW MY TURN.....
Polish Legion insert.....
GIZMO Poland's Carribean tragedy: A study of Polish legions in the Haitian war of independence 1802-1803 By: Jon Pachonski and Reuel K. Wilson REVIEWED BY BOB CORBETT: Heres an excerpt of this article, Thus when i ran across Pachonski's and Wilsons book POLAND'S CARIBBEAN TRAGEDY, i was thrilled to have a chance to get the story from the source as it were, well is that sort of slant is why one goes to this book it will be a huge disappointment. First of all one will have to be patient since they do adress this Old Haitian Myth but not until the second last chapter pages 307-317 is this tale discussed, and then for only ten pages at that. In short the story of the Poles as friends of Haiti and as settlers is Greatly Exaggerated to understate the case. However Pachonski and Wilson do adress the interesting question of how the myth grew, and they attribute it in great measure of being a creation of Jean Jacques Dessalines himself. On Pachonski and Wilson's view Dessaline was much taken by the fact that the Poles tended to treat the Haitians better than other Europeans and to have less regard for the French, the Poles did not want to be in Saint Domingue. With Dessaline's prodding, the Haitians tended to treat the poles much better when they captured them. On one Poles account this meant, that they killed them straight off rather then torturing them as they did the French. In sum there were about 5,200 Poles sent to Saint Domingue by Napoleon. More then 4,000 died primarily of yellow fever, some returned to France. Some were subsumed by the British colonial army, and only about 400 remained in Haiti and even 160 of those received permission from Dessalines in 1806 to return to France and even where sent there at Haiti's expense. Thus only 240 Poles actually remained and became Haitian citizens. Likewise the stories of Poles deserting the French for the Haitian cause are grossly exaggerated with only 120 to 150 Poles ever going to the Haitian cause and those are more likely to have done so, to save their own lives than as a matter of principle. http://www.websteruniv.edu/~corbetre/haiti/bookreviews/pachonski.htm
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TN1804
Now, it's my turn !
Did you know what the French do to Guadeloupe ? They killed more than the half of all Slaves population in Guadeloupe and put slavery (After the french revolution slavery was abolished). They were doing the same thing at Haiti and it was the start of Haitian Revolution. I repeat it again, Dessalines was not a monster. In the first Haitian constitution of 1805 he create the freedom choice of religion ( like today in most country...) All citizens of Haiti, regardless of skin color, to be known as "Black" – including the Poles and Germans .

"12. No whiteman of whatever nation he may be, shall put his foot on this territory with the title of master or proprietor, neither shall he in future acquire any property therein.

13. The preceding article cannot in the smallest degree affect white woman who have been naturalized Haytians by Government, nor does it extend to children already born, or that may be born of the said women. The Germans and Polanders naturalized by government are also comprized (sic) in the dispositions of the present article. "

First Haitian Constitution,

http://thelouvertureproject.org/index.php?title=Haitian_Constitution_of_1805

NOW MY TURN.....
Polish Legion insert.....
GIZMO Poland's Carribean tragedy: A study of Polish legions in the Haitian war of independence 1802-1803 By: Jon Pachonski and Reuel K. Wilson REVIEWED BY BOB CORBETT: Heres an excerpt of this article, Thus when i ran across Pachonski's and Wilsons book POLAND'S CARIBBEAN TRAGEDY, i was thrilled to have a chance to get the story from the source as it were, well is that sort of slant is why one goes to this book it will be a huge disappointment. First of all one will have to be patient since they do adress this Old Haitian Myth but not until the second last chapter pages 307-317 is this tale discussed, and then for only ten pages at that. In short the story of the Poles as friends of Haiti and as settlers is Greatly Exaggerated to understate the case. However Pachonski and Wilson do adress the interesting question of how the myth grew, and they attribute it in great measure of being a creation of Jean Jacques Dessalines himself. On Pachonski and Wilson's view Dessaline was much taken by the fact that the Poles tended to treat the Haitians better than other Europeans and to have less regard for the French, the Poles did not want to be in Saint Domingue. With Dessaline's prodding, the Haitians tended to treat the poles much better when they captured them. On one Poles account this meant, that they killed them straight off rather then torturing them as they did the French. In sum there were about 5,200 Poles sent to Saint Domingue by Napoleon. More then 4,000 died primarily of yellow fever, some returned to France. Some were subsumed by the British colonial army, and only about 400 remained in Haiti and even 160 of those received permission from Dessalines in 1806 to return to France and even where sent there at Haiti's expense. Thus only 240 Poles actually remained and became Haitian citizens. Likewise the stories of Poles deserting the French for the Haitian cause are grossly exaggerated with only 120 to 150 Poles ever going to the Haitian cause and those are more likely to have done so, to save their own lives than as a matter of principle. http://www.websteruniv.edu/~corbetre/haiti/bookreviews/pachonski.htm

Very interesting excerpts and book summary. I also heard many of the fables of "naked white, blonde and blue eyed Polish maidens" descendants of those Poles, bathing naked in the rivers of Haiti.
The Polish soldiers surrendered to the revolutionary armies and asked for mercy. They did not even speak French and they renounced the French in an attempt to save their lives.
Few did although, and the only mercy they received was a swift death instead of a long and torturous
one by their captors.
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