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#1 - Posted 16 October 2009, 9:08 AM
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...and the legal name of the island is: What?
Is it "Hispaniola"?
Is it "Haiti"?
Is it "Santo Domingo"?
When referring to the island of Santo Domingo, many people are not sure about the name of the island and even more so are countries around the world and organizations like the United Nations and its regional Organization of American States (OAS). We have sent a letter of concern regarding this issue, which origin is that the owners of the island claim a different name each in their constitutions since their corresponding independence date: "Haiti" and "Santo Domingo".
This conflicting factor created a third name by other countries, specifically the United States, which named the island "Hispaniola" until Haiti and the Dominican republic agree on one single name for the island.
Why we claim that the name of the island is Santo Domingo?
First, the reason why Duarte and the Trinitarians denominated the new nation as "Dominican Republic" was because they claimed that the name of the island should be recognized as the Island of Santo Domingo, not Haiti, thus the new nation would not bear the denomination of "Haitian Republic". The UN and OAS should revise the bilateral treaties between these two nations and notice which has been the name utilized for the island in them. They have no records about this whatsoever??!!
Haiti must comply with the treaties and change the name of the island in their constitution. That will resolve a lot of issues, including, but not limited to, the real identity of Dominicans occupying the Eastern Part of the island, since Haiti would also become another "Dominican republic".
The word "Dominican" for this purpose will include citizens of both the Dominican Republic of Haiti or Republic of Haiti and the Dominican Republic of.... (Sorry, no name yet selected).
The national identity of the people of Haiti is that of "Haitians"
The national identity of the people of the other nation sharing the island is: "....." (Legally unknown yet)
That's why we are insisting in the name and identity that the Trinitarians and Restoration Patriots of the independence gave to the nation of "Quisqueya" and "Quisqueyans", as the basic principle upon which Haiti would accept that the name of the island is Santo Domingo.
We refuse to be called Haitians.
Haitians refuse to be called Dominicans.
That is a fact!
By being both Dominicans (regionally), but with definite different national identity (Haitians and Quisqueyans), this could be a sound, simple and logical solution.
And the world will be one!

(see more at http://www.quisqueya.name)
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#2 - Posted 16 October 2009, 9:59 AM
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RE: ...and the legal name of the island is: What?
"By being both Dominicans (regionally), but with definite different national identity (Haitians and Quisqueyans), this could be a sound, simple and logical solution."

That is tantamount to one of the most asinine proposals I've ever heard.
'The past is never dead. In fact, it's not even past.' - William Faulkner
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#3 - Posted 16 October 2009, 1:13 PM
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Cibaeño75, ten years ago I would most probably call ideas like this one very, extremely foolish, because then the only way of thinking for me was to follow the trend, the status quo, the lies on top of lies. Now I have mature (which was a process since my teenage years) to know the difference between reality, hidden truth, conceptual thinking and educational mess.

Call it what you want. I am confident that years of research will win over forced status quo. Quisqueya will be the name of what today is just denominated as Dominican Republic.
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#4 - Posted 16 October 2009, 1:34 PM
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CONSTITUCION previously said:

Cibaeño75, ten years ago I would most probably call ideas like this one very, extremely foolish, because then the only way of thinking for me was to follow the trend, the status quo, the lies on top of lies. Now I have mature (which was a process since my teenage years) to know the difference between reality, hidden truth, conceptual thinking and educational mess.

Call it what you want. I am confident that years of research will win over forced status quo. Quisqueya will be the name of what today is just denominated as Dominican Republic.



Any proposal where Haitians would be categorized as "Dominicans" through some legalistic manuevers will NEVER recieve the support of the Dominican populace (or the Haitian for that matter), both domestic and abroad. Of that I myself am confident. You need to tweek you proposal a little more if you ever want it to catch any wind.
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#5 - Posted 17 October 2009, 11:08 AM
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The idea is just to state clearly the truth of what we are without fearing being discriminated or ridiculed. Our national identity is not "Dominican" and it is not for Haitians either. We don't have a legal national identity yet! Our National Anthem mentions that national identity as Quisqueyans. That's what we are. Why it is not yet inscribed in our Constitution? The solution to a great deal of issues with our neighbors resides on the following statements:
1) The name of our country is: DOMINICAN REPUBLIC OF QUISQUEYA
2) Our national identity is that of QUISQUEYANS
3) The name of the island we share with the Republic of Haiti is the Island of Santo Domingo
4) The Constitution of Haiti must change the name they have for the island to match ours.
When this happens, the word "Dominican" will only be used by the people of the Island of Dominique and the missionaries and nuns of the religious Order of Santo Domingo.
Haitians will be Haitians from the Republic of Haiti
Quisqueyans will be Quisqueyans from the Dominican Republic of Quisqueya or just Quisqueya.
Venezuelans, Chileans, Cubans or any other country in this continent don't use American as a national identity. Why should Haitians or Quisqueyans use the Dominican adjective as identity? No use for it in the future. One more generation and it will disappear from our culture, with happy and sad memories that lasted hundred of years.
We're not looking for simphaty or fans. We're looking for serious supporters of our theory, without prejudice.

Edited on 10/17/2009 11:09 AM by CONSTITUCION.
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#6 - Posted 22 October 2009, 2:26 PM
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"La Republica Dominicana" sounds beautiful and is enjoyable to say as it rolls off the tongue. "Quisqueya" is more appropriate and has my vote, I don't like columbus & the spanish invaders. But in my gringo heart it will always be affectionatly known as "Bizarro World" (rule #1, there are no rules)
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