| #111 - Posted 22 October 2009, 11:14 AM | |
Location: United States, Chicago Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2300 Posts: 5062 | RE: My first trip to the Dominican Republic Quote: USADR previously said: Quote: Africana previously said: Redd, I think what some people are failing to ask you is are you a light skin black or are you a dark skin black? Trust me it matters. If you don't believe me read a couple of the forums in here. I ask b/c from what i hear dark skin blacks are treated VERY differently in places like the capital or in areas were the light to bright Dominicans populate *yawn* One more color struck race obsessed troll infecting another thread with his own preconcieved notions of Dominican Repbulic's people and culture, viewed thru his own ethnocentric lens and based upon some rather bizarre takes of online sources. For the millionth time, DR is like many other LatinAmerican countries in that socioeconomic class is the overwhelming dominating factor in determining how one is treated. There are tons of tourist from the Jamaica and African Americans who go back every single time and love it. Keep your whole 'light skinned vs dark skinned' theory to yourself. If you're very dark skinned with stereotypical broad West African features try visiting Haiti as a common person and then compare/contrast the treatment you'll receive. Make sure you familiarize yourself with denigrating terms like 'kaka dyab' and congo. This is 2009 I can't beleive people are still pulling out the race card. Africana, just because you had a bad experiance, do not spread bad rumors about our beautiful DR. Have you ever stopped to think that it might have been your personality that pushed people away and not your color? |
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| #112 - Posted 22 October 2009, 11:44 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3762 Posts: 71 | RE: My first trip to the Dominican Republic Quote: xwill7 previously said: Quote: ethio_rican previously said: Quote: redd1723 previously said: This is my first trip to the DR I am a African American male I speak some spanish. I will be staying in boca chica and was wondering what to expect on my first trip there, I would also like to know about the night life and where are the best places to go shopping. I will be traveling alone so I also want to know where not to go also. Don't pay attention to the jaded folks on this site. Boca Chica is a cool place in the daytime. After 3-4am, is when you want to be careful of the riff-raff. I've stayed in the worst parts of Dominican Republic without any problems "blending in"... When it comes to street smarts, you got it - you got it, you don't... (you know the rest). Boca Chica beach is a great place to hangout; however, if you don't like swimming around bottles and paper plates, you may want to stay out of the water. LOL! There are many bars and places to dance at the beach. you must be ghetto if you are able to blend in the worst parts of DR... Boca Chica is not a good spot for a first timer, they will leave with a bad taste of DR. I don't take offense to that... you call it "ghetto", I call it "street smarts". Obviously you are too naive to realize street smarts is simply means COMMON SENSE. What the hell is a "good spot" anyway? Some uppity rich enclave? Within the confinement of an all inclusive hotel? Please clarify what that means or should I simply lump it with the remaining asinine statements you've made? Boca Chica can be a great place to vacation if you use common sense. Maybe xwill17 can refer him to a "good spot" where the folks lacking common sense vacation. Edited on 10/22/2009 11:52 AM by ethio_rican. |
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| #113 - Posted 22 October 2009, 11:50 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3762 Posts: 71 | RE: My first trip to the Dominican Republic Quote: USADR previously said: Quote: Africana previously said: Redd, I think what some people are failing to ask you is are you a light skin black or are you a dark skin black? Trust me it matters. If you don't believe me read a couple of the forums in here. I ask b/c from what i hear dark skin blacks are treated VERY differently in places like the capital or in areas were the light to bright Dominicans populate *yawn* One more color struck race obsessed troll infecting another thread with his own preconcieved notions of Dominican Repbulic's people and culture, viewed thru his own ethnocentric lens and based upon some rather bizarre takes of online sources. For the millionth time, DR is like many other LatinAmerican countries in that socioeconomic class is the overwhelming dominating factor in determining how one is treated. There are tons of tourist from the Jamaica and African Americans who go back every single time and love it. Keep your whole 'light skinned vs dark skinned' theory to yourself. If you're very dark skinned with stereotypical broad West African features try visiting Haiti as a common person and then compare/contrast the treatment you'll receive. Make sure you familiarize yourself with denigrating terms like 'kaka dyab' and congo. I'll have to agree with USADR... Africana, how can you make those statements without ever really experiencing DR? I |
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| #114 - Posted 22 October 2009, 12:15 PM | |
Location: United States, Chicago Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2300 Posts: 5062 | RE: My first trip to the Dominican Republic Quote: ethio_rican previously said: Quote: xwill7 previously said: Quote: ethio_rican previously said: Quote: redd1723 previously said: This is my first trip to the DR I am a African American male I speak some spanish. I will be staying in boca chica and was wondering what to expect on my first trip there, I would also like to know about the night life and where are the best places to go shopping. I will be traveling alone so I also want to know where not to go also. Don't pay attention to the jaded folks on this site. Boca Chica is a cool place in the daytime. After 3-4am, is when you want to be careful of the riff-raff. I've stayed in the worst parts of Dominican Republic without any problems "blending in"... When it comes to street smarts, you got it - you got it, you don't... (you know the rest). Boca Chica beach is a great place to hangout; however, if you don't like swimming around bottles and paper plates, you may want to stay out of the water. LOL! There are many bars and places to dance at the beach. you must be ghetto if you are able to blend in the worst parts of DR... Boca Chica is not a good spot for a first timer, they will leave with a bad taste of DR. I don't take offense to that... you call it "ghetto", I call it "street smarts". Obviously you are too naive to realize street smarts is simply means COMMON SENSE. What the hell is a "good spot" anyway? Some uppity rich enclave? Within the confinement of an all inclusive hotel? Please clarify what that means or should I simply lump it with the remaining asinine statements you've made? Boca Chica can be a great place to vacation if you use common sense. Maybe xwill17 can refer him to a "good spot" where the folks lacking common sense vacation. Street smarts is to avoid the ghetto areas in SD, SPM, and SFM... Also, I love driving from town to town but you even if you are street smart you can still get shot for no reason. Its best to avoid those areas. Boca Chica is full of cuero and garbage, and you have a higher rate of getting mugged than in other areas. If you have a weapon then you can go to Boca Chica, but this guy is going on vacation and will probably not have any protection. What is he going to do??? Call 911??? For a first timer he can go to Punta Cana, Samana, and even Puerto Plata. Santiago, jarabacoa are good if he likes mountains/rivers. Even La Romana would be better than Boca Chica. |
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| #115 - Posted 23 October 2009, 5:11 PM | |
Location: United States, Chicago Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2300 Posts: 5062 | RE: My first trip to the Dominican Republic Quote: Africana previously said: I don't have to go there to know their is a problem. Just like i don't have to go outside to know if it is snowing. In case you haven't noticed there are many outlets that can inform you about what is going on around the world. I have had many friends go to dr. They all have had similar stories about discrimination and the apparent problem with color. Do i also really need to bring up the constant blogs about other peoples stories. What are you going to tell me... All those people are lying on dr??? Don't know where you stayed but el cibao has some of the friendliest people in DR |
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| #116 - Posted 23 October 2009, 5:15 PM | |
Location: United States, Rochester, NY Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3399 Posts: 18 | RE: Why blacks want dominicans to be black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote: Africana previously said: Mira Shit for brains.. I mean MiraBueno.. Why are you writing in english you are not american. write what you were trying to say in spanish b/c between your broken english and your choice of words i could not understand a word you typed. Ask one of your white american friends to help you. No es necesario hablar asi Africana. Debes communicarte a todo el mundo con respecto. No demuestres tu racismo y ignorancia. |
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| #117 - Posted 24 October 2009, 11:14 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2008 Member #: 522 Posts: 1184 | RE: Why blacks want dominicans to be black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote: gregorioeltoro previously said: Quote: Africana previously said: Mira Shit for brains.. I mean MiraBueno.. Why are you writing in english you are not american. write what you were trying to say in spanish b/c between your broken english and your choice of words i could not understand a word you typed. Ask one of your white american friends to help you. No es necesario hablar asi Africana. Debes communicarte a todo el mundo con respecto. No demuestres tu racismo y ignorancia. That is the ghetto coming out. My suggestion Africana, if you consider yourself a person of certain stature, regardless of your race or skin color, try to keep comments as civil as possible, thereby the message that you attempt to convey will be effective and respected. Otherwise you will lose credibility and be categorized as another senseless and purposeles troll. In the end you will be ignored. And about not necessary to go ouside to know that it is snowing. Well yes true, but it is always best to see things for yourself and come to your own conclutions. Otherwise you will view things under some one else's perspectiveand only to achieve a false negative. The media tends to alter realtiy; it amplifies circumstances or situations beyond its latitudes. Edited on 10/24/2009 11:33 AM by guillermone. |
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| #118 - Posted 24 October 2009, 1:16 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, El Guapito Jarabacoence,Nariz de Guineo, a troll and lloronas nightmare, right hand of El Boogeyman! MANABAO,LA VEGA Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3407 Posts: 1932 | RE: Why blacks want dominicans to be black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote: gregorioeltoro previously said: Quote: Africana previously said: Mira Shit for brains.. I mean MiraBueno.. Why are you writing in english you are not american. write what you were trying to say in spanish b/c between your broken english and your choice of words i could not understand a word you typed. Ask one of your white american friends to help you. No es necesario hablar asi Africana. Debes communicarte a todo el mundo con respecto. No demuestres tu racismo y ignorancia. why even give that rat any consejo as if she deserves it? she already got that swift machete swing cocotazo which got her reeling senseless. she trys to justify her beliefs on other peoples experiences and not her own. she talks about dominicans as if they are the most racist people in the world and is too blind to see her reverse racism staring her in the face. i come off real hard and i got that rough edge when people lack sincerity and only try to bash and ridicule my country. love me or hate me i don't care because my approach will not change. africana din't even want to deal with the truth that i was spitting but when i turned the other way then she tried to throw a few jabs with no avail. gimme a break! she defended a race obsessed troll that i had asked a question to. i asked the troll if he was hector lavoes house negro and she comes out defending the troll by asking me how can i expect people not to think that i am not racist by the comment that i had made. that right there makes that bembe moya a troll de verdad. |
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| #119 - Posted 24 October 2009, 1:19 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, El Guapito Jarabacoence,Nariz de Guineo, a troll and lloronas nightmare, right hand of El Boogeyman! MANABAO,LA VEGA Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3407 Posts: 1932 | RE: Why blacks want dominicans to be black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote: guillermone previously said: Quote: gregorioeltoro previously said: Quote: Africana previously said: Mira Shit for brains.. I mean MiraBueno.. Why are you writing in english you are not american. write what you were trying to say in spanish b/c between your broken english and your choice of words i could not understand a word you typed. Ask one of your white american friends to help you. No es necesario hablar asi Africana. Debes communicarte a todo el mundo con respecto. No demuestres tu racismo y ignorancia. That is the ghetto coming out. My suggestion Africana, if you consider yourself a person of certain stature, regardless of your race or skin color, try to keep comments as civil as possible, thereby the message that you attempt to convey will be effective and respected. Otherwise you will lose credibility and be categorized as another senseless and purposeles troll. In the end you will be ignored. And about not necessary to go ouside to know that it is snowing. Well yes true, but it is always best to see things for yourself and come to your own conclutions. Otherwise you will view things under some one else's perspectiveand only to achieve a false negative. The media tends to alter realtiy; it amplifies circumstances or situations beyond its latitudes. i got a better suggestion stay off of a dominican millitant website that does not adhere to your beliefs because in the end you will be scourged. don't be confused its not just the beliefs but the gurls approach. |
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| #120 - Posted 26 October 2009, 12:02 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2008 Member #: 522 Posts: 1184 | RE: Why blacks want dominicans to be black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote: Africana previously said: Guillermone, you really are the worst. You know something is wrong and yet you still agree. Then you want to name call and make stupid comments that i am ghetto. Let me tell you, just b/c you are in the states does not mean that you don't have el barrio dentro de ti. When the racism starts seeping out of your pores, so does the ignorant teachings of del barrio. You crack me up. You are the biggest hypocrite, racist and bigot on this site. You say that the postings, media, and the Internet have completely skewed the views and doings of Dominican Republic. You claim that we should not listen to everything people write and say. Then in one fell swoop you do the same thing, that you claim is being done to you and your people. I saw the posting you put on "My first trip to the DR" The one where you make all of those FACT LESS STUPID generalizations about blacks. Why should people not believe everything they hear about DR. You believe everything that is said about black people. I have told you before. I do my research before i open my mouth on a subject. It is obvious that you do not do the same The sad part is you are not helping anyone see your point of view. If anything you are just going to be creating more racist thinking Dominicans like yourself. ...... It is going to take me longer to disprove all of the garbage you said in that post. I just don't have the time tonight... But don't worry I'll make the time soon. I will leave you with this food for thought about your precious white people and the national crime rate... "In 2008, 69.2 percent of all persons arrested were white; 28.3 percent were black; and the remaining 2.4 percent were of other races." Now what does this info tell you... Whites just had better lawyers. The system is made for them by them. GUILLERMONE DO YOUR FREAKING RESEARCH NEXT TIME AND STOP FREAKING LISTENING TO EVERYTHING THE NEWS SHOWS YOU. This info is from the FBI... http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_67.html Read the table. You will be surprised by what you find. You know Africana I love your style....I think you and I can get it together,well so as long as we keep away from the name calling, we will be just find. Just forget about my other Dominican buddies on the forum. We are just trying to have some fun, but at your expense. Don't take things "tan apecho". Too bad I got busy this week-end to keep up with this debate. But please don't try to water down reality about the black community. I am not being racist I am only being real. You don't think I know the black community? I have been around and lived in every single black community in the North East corridor From New England to South Florida to also include the South side of Chicago. I don't know the south west or the west coast. Remember blacks and Puerto Ricans (that is what Dominicans were called before our arrival in large numbers, back then everybody was a PR) were very tight and close knit at one time. I grew up around US American blacks and lived in black neighborhoods. So I am not an outsider, I know black Americans well. I know the ghetto, believe me. Nevertheless, Africana I know I hit a few sensitive spots that I know hurts you, but believe me I judge each person individually. I don't make blanket judgements about anyone. You think I don't know that there are very high caliber black people? I have been to black neighborhoods that are just as impeccable as any upper middle class white neighborhood that I have ever seen. Yes I have been to plenty of black neighborhoods with manicured lawns, white picket fences, beautiful landscapes and luxury cars parked in the driveway. I know and experienced both sides of the Black African life. But the problem that you have is that you keep viewing non-white Dominican through the eyes of an African American and because of that you come to the wrong conclusions and that is where I want to help you gain some insight. The problem with that is it won't be easy and it can not be done in one session. But I am up for the challenge as soon as I get the time. |
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