pay the light bill......first you idiots

The FAILED STATE in full swing!

Part 2!

http://www.diariolibre.com/noticias_det.php?id=177077

Its going to be a good Christmas for Lie-onel and the PLD!

http://www.diariolibre.com/noticias_det.php?id=177066

josean cmon scrooge !.... hippo will fill your stocking....Ho Ho Ho

We got a METRO to no where and some model airplanes, but no LIGHTS!

http://www.listin.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=80838

Its too bad that Josean (the village idiot) only complaints are that the PLD is doing bad, stupid, and dishonest things. If it were the party of his idiots (PRD) all of these actions would be OK.

Actually GC hit the nail right on the head. Pay the light bill first, you knuckleheads.

josean is not happy until you're not happy......he is a chronic whiner

just a minor aside; the article states the cost to be 93 million pesos. i believe that should read 93 million dollars.

the first amount was the bribe

The Tucano's will help for the impending Dominican-Haitian war of 2009 to give us an edge against machete wielding Haitian mobs. Too bad they won't be delivered to us for years.
From the many postings of the last few days, I have concluded that there are definitely advanced
troops trying to cause havoc and inciting inflamatory exchanges between Dominicans and Haitians.
This plan started with the excuse of the bird flu fever and the rejection of the Dominican eggs and chicken purchases by the Haitians. Also the very near fatal close call given to our president
Fernandez on his trip to Haiti and rain of rocks that were thrown to him, plus the constant chanting
of "cursed Dominicans". Then came the rejection and refusal of the Dominican aid sent to Haiti and the advance legion of Haitian spin masters to confuse our citizens.
An international Dominican-Haitian incident is probably in the works now to attract attention to the matter and make the Haitians pose as victims of the

"terrible and xenophobic Dominicans"
After US President Obama's inauguration Jan.20, 2009.

From the looks of it Rene Preval the ruler of Haiti is no great admirer or friend of the DR and we are the only country because of our borders with Haiti that the Haitians can use as an excuse to pose as victims and demand money and aid from the international community.
This is what I have heard from a good source.
Some of the ingredients of this plan have already come to past, others are still pending.
As Dominicans we must not fall for this plot to discredit us and use us to get international assistance from unsuspecting countries.
I am just passing this information on.

Ambassador Genoroso....thank you so much for passing this inside info on your excellency

i see what you mean, GC; it is a simple formula. the deal is in dollars, and the bribe is in an equivalent amount of pesos. at least they keep it simple.

they are waiting to be delivered from a warehouse in Bani

texasshoe:
Believe me if we are lucky we might get two (2) late next year. (2009)
Our pilots as we speak have been in Brazil getting trained for them.
So keep your fingers crossed that the Brazilians can work overtime!
We ordered actually 10. I am confused by the 8 figure. Maybe two were paid for already.

Ladies and gentlemen and lowlifes. you are all forgetting that the US elections are over which means that the US media and international media are going to have a lot of time to dedicate their focus on the Haitian, Dominican conflict. You can Kiss the foreign investments and the tourist goodbye!

it is not that confusing, generoso. we PAID FOR 10. but we will get eight. the payment for the other two will be repatriated in a large suitcase, destined for predetermined recipients.

Yumnuk I have it on inside info from a prominent Diplomat that this is why we need the planes ...to repel the machete wielding Haitians and their inevitable invasion ...sorry I cannot reveal my source

gouletcolonial, This is serious CNN and BBC news are very slow at the present time. I can just see Anderson Cooper paying us a visit.

GC:
You unrepentful Cuban gusano, the comrades are watching your every move. You might run but you can not hide. We will catch up with you and deliver swift justice to your old tired bones!

trust me on this one, yumnuk; with the economic events that we are about to witness, media outlets will have more than enough fodder to ponder. disagreement between haiti and the DR will be inconsequential news.

More on the Dominican-Haitian conflict in 2009:
The mastermind of this plan and the actual creator was none other than Titi (President) Aristide.
The purpose of the distraction and the creation of the artificial Haitian-Dominican incident was to bring international awareness to the unjust "reparation" monies that were sent by Haiti to France in the sums of millions of French Francs, equivalent to billions today back in the 19TH Century.
This unjust, grossly unfair and discriminate penalty to the Haitian economy effectively bankrupted
the Haitian economy for generations to come.
And the Aristide government was demanding that France pay it back. If you know French politics at all you know that this wasn't going to happen anytime soon and the consequences were
that this was one of the causes that Aristide was removed from office quickly.
So that is the well conceived and most brilliant plan from a desperate country in urgent need
of foreign capital to nourish their infrastructure

Dread, I hope you're absolutely right.

yumnuk, i am wrong more often than i am right. but, when it comes to economic issues and their repercussions, i generally have a handle on what is going on. i do not mind being wrong; i just hate when other people find out. so, i genually ponder subjects carefully before i post.

You guys sure don't have a lot of faith in new world horizons that will begin Jan.20, 2009.
I have always been a conservative at heart, but my skin is brown and my ancestry is Latin.
I remember a long struggle with political persecution, the unjust jailing and imprisonment and
torture of my father for the simple reason that he was vocal against Trujillo and a friend of the USA.
I remember all the discrimination in US jr high and high school, the beatings, the name calling "spick",
greaser, wetback, Rican, and so forth.
Even in the armed services Latins were cannon fodder and were assigned the lowest and most dangerous tasks along with blacks.
Now is our time, time to redeem all that ugly and sad past. The USA voters have spoken, the future is bright, things will be uneasy for a few months but then the light will shine for Americans
as well as blacks, Latins, and people from all nationalities that comprise the melting pot
of our beautiful and democratic good old US of A.

Hear hear

Dread, I totally agree with you If everyone took our approach this form can be taken to the next level. unfortunately we have to many village idiots that cannot think before they speak .we have about 10 or 15 of them and we all know who they are. Perhaps we should just ignore the buffoons that processes a room temperature IQ.

here we go massaging each others balls

yumnuk3:
I am in awe by your great superiority, master and are prostrated at your feet in reverse, with my butt facing you so I can be more easily kicked by your blessed feet.
(Like the ancient Inca salute to the kings).
We are blessed to have individuals with such great vision, tolerance and wisdom enrich our lives
with their always so superior and enlightened input. ( and many typo's that highlight their truly
deficient educational and cultural base knowledge).

A big waste of money and a violation of the constitution and international law by downing planes they "think" is trafficking drugs!

Generoso. It's great to know you have a sense of humor. However I experienced similar problems. I grew up in Corona Queens which was a predominantly Italian-American neighborhood at the time. For a while there I thought spic was my first name,,,, as I look back and reflect I wouldn't change a thing because those insults made me a stronger person.

the Boricuas did a lot of the dirty work before the Dominicans got therehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy6wo2wpT2k

GC, all the colored people did dirty work, at least in New York. as a matter of fact, Boricuas, as you call them, are still doing dirty work, in 2008. there is a group of malignant creatures from Albania, which populates the pelham/ white plains road area of the Bronx. these guys are a menace, and boricuas and other people of color are imperilled by these reptiles. i guess that is why i was incensed when miloskorac started up with his two cents worth, about Barack Obama. i have had enough of these eastern european rodents.

the president is buying this planes with the excuse to fight drug planes, but what they really doing it is because they are getting ready to invade the neighborhood country that is a mess and a disgrase for the caribean specially for the dominican republic.

Alright!!! Since, I can't carry my gun anymore, I feel really safe now.

please, caonabo1, enough with the conspiracy theories. there is such an entity as the United Nations Security Council. should such an invasion take place, the UN would embargo the DR into the dust. you think that the political leaders here do not know that?

These over priced planes were bought under the guise of needing them for drug intervention in a private deal by our fearless leader in order to greatly enrich his personal holdings. That's the short version and probably closer to the truth than any of us will ever know. The only transparency in government deals is that they do not even bother to hide their corruption or even try to give the impression of honesty and honor. Pa Lante Que Va.............straight to my bank!!!!!

exactly, domericano; just like the Harley Davidson motorcycles were bought to patrol ghetto streets. it is all so obvious; none of this makes sense, except to the politicians, who are raking in monstrous commissions for pushing through these deals. believe me, some of these guys are not stupid. they do not embark on insane projects because they do not know better. they do it to make money!!

Last time I take me raft in the ocean with these buffoons in planes with weapons!

Haitain-Dominican War 2009 - Now that's funny. D.R. can take over Haiti with 50 Tigres from my Barrio. The problem isn't taking over Haiti, the problem is what do you do with it once you got it.

exercise caution, Escott. these guys will shoot up your raft out of sheer boredom. one night i saw two girls catfighting, and the cops were called. after they managed to quench these 100 pound girls by pointing their 9 millimeter sidearms at them, they then proceeded to crack off several rounds in the air, as a diversion. they are too dim witted to realise that what goes up must come down. stay far from the reach of these aeroplanes; you will be inviting disaster if you do otherwise.

dread you are talking apples and oranges

Mr Sloth, i am sure that is the same thing the Russians said about Afghanistan. ever heard about the concept of Home Field Advantage? it is never easy to fight people on their own turf, even if you have superior force. just ask Hitler.

how so, GC? i am pointing solely to a frame of mind, nothing else. if these guys cannot get any legit action, they will crack off a few dozen rounds at anything that moves!

Granted all minorities had a battle in these times

no I meant the Latino community in the 50s in NYC

Winning a war, that is beating government forces is sometimes swift and easy, however beating the people is another story and very tough thing to accomplish!! Those who are proponents for war and wish for it should consider the gravity of the situation and the repercussions. There is no GRAVITY in war, it SUCKS!

Correction:
Dominicans will NEVER invade Haiti for occupational purposes, NEVER in a million years.
Juan Bosch once in 1962 almost started a war with Haiti because the embassy grounds in Port Au
Prince was violated by the Ton Ton Macoutes and Dominicans were lining up to volunteer in the DR armed forces en masse. But nothing happened.
Haitians historically are a very proud and nationalistic nation, God help any invasion force that will enter Haitian territory uninvited.
Not even Fidel Castro their next door neighbor which is a stone throw from Cuba wanted to start
that fight for the simple reason is that IF you do occupy Haiti and overthrow the government then what happens next?
You have to police the Haitians, feed them, clothed them and provide security, that my friend is what happened in Iraq (is called Nation building) and that's what destroyed and sank the US economy for the next 25 years.
I didn't mean any offense yumnuck3 or was trying to be facetious is all entertainme

This should be very simple. Record every encounter with this drug planes , any small plane dropping packages should be shot down as well as any people on the ground or on water trying to pick the drugs .We need a presidente with BALLS.

DR will not invade Haiti. There's no point in doing that. Nothing to gain since Haiti is going to become a big desert like Iraq due to deforestation!

dreadlocks:
In the early 20Th Century the Dominican and Haitian doctors went to France to study at the Sorbonne a type of medicine called "medicine tropicale" that was a general type of medicine for the general practioner.
Some of those old doctors were the teachers and mentors of the present generation. So famous names were Dr.Charles Dunlop, (black as coal) one of Balaguer's personal physician, Dr. Goico,
Dr. Kourie, the famous Dr. Heriberto Pieter of the oncology clinic (Haitian born) and many others.
I remembered I met Dr.Pieter who was dark as charcoal and he impressed me so much that I
regarded him not only as a healer but also as a holy man.
We have so much to contribute and at the same time fight the forces of the ugly racism (from both sides), elitism and exclusivism that are permeating Dominican-Haitian relations.
It's our duty and our task as mentors and teachers of the present generation.

Juan Bobo,

States:

"Its too bad that Josean (the village idiot) only complaints are that the PLD is doing bad, stupid, and dishonest things."

I thought it was the PLD who has absolute power, so who is the idiot?

Hey josean where you been?
I didn't have power all morning and my inversor quit thanks to your Lie-onel and the metro! LOL.

Buying GM stock!

what is it down to now, Josean? about $2.95? now there's a company that will go belly up before christmas if congress does not approve a bailout package frtom the TARP

dread:
My point is that even Dominican law and lawyers also made the trip to France to study law and the
Napoleonic code that rules us.
The best Dominican lawyers, mentors and teachers for this generation to name just a few,
Dr. Messina, Dr. Peña Gomez (yes the same one), Dr. Pacheco, Dr, Balaguer and many others.
So much good French influence in our legal and health professionals
and they brought back a big contribution from France to enrich the Dominican natives that could not afford or had other educational handicaps and could not travel abroad.
Anyway, I am not trying to preach, but I guess I am preaching in the sense that we have to keep the level high and even raise the standard more.
Many times i have lost my patience and blown my fuse at the many morons that instill
hate. I even invited a NY lawyer to a duel, which I later apologized to and he did as well to me
but we must not never lose our bearings and be the steering committee for the next generation, it is our sol

Generoso, I know it's not personal I think it was hilarious I appreciate clever jokes.

GC:
so true about Puerto Ricans in New York in the 1950's.
You probably know since you are also an old fart that the majority of bodegas (as the Puerto Ricans call them that) later became the "colmados"and were sold to Dominicans.
When I was a teenager used to work for a very strict Puerto Rican ex-marine that owned one. Man was he a brutal SOB.

Eastern european rodents????

I can't believe the same person that post this derogatory term is the same one that wants to commit suicide everytime something sensitive and related to his motherland arises.

There is not worst racist person that the same kind of which this person belongs, They discriminate among themselves and play the victim role very well.

Rubirosa, should you not be out and about looking for a tall building to jump off? you are becoming, or rather,you are, beyond tiresome. if you cannot improve upon silence, then it is incumbent upon you to be quiet. if you live to 100 years, you will not produce a sensible remark; you are congenitally stupid, and time will not improve you. and, by the way, i see where you purport to be posting from the USA. well, i do not believe you. unless i am severely mistaken , there is no state in the union which permits motoconchos.

ouch!!

I once saw with my own eyes in Haiti. One (not many, just one) Haitian Riot Police in full gear turn back 300 to 500 Haitians who were doing a Riot. That is what I am talking about, the Haitians are very uneducated scared people. Overtaking them is easy, dealing with them, building up a Nation with uneducated people, now that is dificult. We don't need any planes to take over Haiti. In time you will see, the U.S. will make D.R. take over Haiti because they know the D.R. will do a better job than the U.N. is doing at the moment in Haiti which is nothing. It has started, Documentation first, Why do you think D.R. is starting to Document all the foreigners?

Once again was trying to be sensitive regarding other races, "Treat others the same way you want to be treated"

The End...

double ouch!!!!

the Truth hurts my friends


rubirosa sabe dar galletas sin manos

Mr Sloth, the fact that one military officer could single handedly quell a mob of Haitians does not necessarily indicate that they are, as you put it "uneducated and scared". it could have to do with their response to authority, which would be a plus in times of warfare. i do not think that they are any less educated today than they were during the Haitian revolution. go ask the French if they were easy to defeat.

rubi and dread:
You guys should put on the gloves and end this once and for all.
I sure don't want to be around as a referee, might get punched accidentally!
Just like to watch as a spectator.
Like count Dracula would say: I like the sight of red and beautiful fresh blood!

hey, generoso, what can you say about a guy who claims that " the beautiful motherland (Spain) has our backs, and will protect us"? motherland? do people use that word in 2008? in reference to an ex-colonial master? i would not want to be within the same latitude as that guy. and you know what, Rubi? i am a US citizen. i can move around, so i get to see what is happening in the country. i have boricua friends who have had their asses kicked by some of these Albanian serpents, purely for racial reasons. maybe you are afraid to come out of the basement at 133rd and Broadway, dodging the immigration man. you do not get to see much.

for anyone who feels this forum is too racist or bias toward haitians feel free to go to this site
and find topics more related to your nation and cultural background.

www.haitiforum.com

there you'll find a more haitian oriented content and advertising.
such as Preval approval rating, the latest recepies and much more

i even copy and paste one of the topics to see if any of our hitian friends are interested:

Eske gen mou-n ki knonen pou ki sa kaya te tire sou Duvalier?

de nada, fue un placer

dread:
I see your point but I really don't want to take any sides. I appreciate both of you guys comments and I don't agree with them like someone said but I will fight to the death for your right to say them.
As an old soldier who has seen too many wars and has too many wounds that still hurt, when I hear gunshots whizzing by ....I hit the ground pronto! and wait for the shooting to end.

generoso, do not take sides; just get a comfortable seat and enjoy the carnival. i love a good old battle of words, and i can defend myself from intellectual weaklings like Rubi without working up a sweat.

it is a waste of money because what they are to do now is, that instead of the marine dancing, drinking and eating with the Capo. now it is the turn for airforce men to have their chance. what a joke this is. it will cost about 1000.00 USD to flight one of those plane for an hour now that would be x 8 x 7 that's a lot of cash.

hey, Bernies, how about the maintenance costs? wait till these things start to break; hubba hubba!!

Hey Dread, "Motherland, Fatherland or HOMELAND" , do you know that when Bush Announced (unleashed) the Dept. of HOMELAND SECURITY to the American people he used the same speech, WORD FOR WORD that Adolph Hitler used when he introduced the GESTAPO to the German people!!!!!!!!!!! I hope this is not a case of history repeating itself as well although I fear the worst. Just my personal opinion and observation.

yes, domericano, i have a problem with anybody who uses those terms. it just has a sinister ring to it!

Albanian serpents????

This is getting better, coming from the same mea culpa race person to me is like having double stantard, for example : now Sceranario A is convenient for me but no Scenario B then moments later now scenario B is convenient for me but not scenario A.

This is the same tiresome diatribe that ONG'S use in Dominican Republic on and on, race meaning is used according to their needs and agenda of the moment is like "I can call you ugly
but you can't call me ugly because if you do so I will cry and it is very derogatory"

Please give me a break......

Dreadlocks!! The French??? Isn't that another Nation easy to take over?

the ministry of silly walks

slothy ...the germans thought so.....three times

you know what the Parisian said when the Germans entered Paris " Table for 50 thousand Monsieur "

thats why the have all those trees on Les Champs Elysee " So the Germans can March in the shade "

there will always be a Frenchman there when he needs you

Advertisement for French Rifles circa WW2............Rifles for sale, cheap....never fired and only dropped once!! They would be speaking German now if it were not for the Allied forces!!

AHHH! it appears "La hermano grande" (BIG BROTHER) is alive and well here as well as the U.S.. My wife just took a phone call from a "secretary" questioning as to why I was speaking badly of the president!!!!!!!!!!! She is Dominican and needless to say very nervous at this moment. If my somewhat cynical rhetoric seems a little subdued in the future please know that my opinions are the same for the sake of harmony at home. Maybe I'll try to talk over their heads with between the lines innuendo to make my feelings known. WOW, I decided to live here instead of the states to get away from this crap.

Don't bad mouth the French please in my presence, they are ungrateful to the Americans because
Americans are so uneducated, and unrefined brutes with a cowboy mentality, so they say.
The French are more "sensitive", cultured and refined in the arts. We are only the sons and daughters of pirates and filibusters belonging to "ultramer" as they say or "ultramerde".
While I was living and studying for a bit in France before they kicked me out, it was funny that my French friends whenever the bill for dinner came, none ever made a gesture to even remotely think about paying for it. Sometimes they left hurriedly to the bathroom before the bill arrived. I don't know what the problem is with paying for services rendered or making Americans or Latins, pay for them. They must think since they are so superior that we must pay for them always.
It's just the way they are and the way they were brought up. They are really good soldiers though especially for guarding the "rear".

Rubirosa, when a group of people takes it upon themselves to beat up different racial groups, solely out of racist imperatives, i will call them whatever my vocabulary empowers me to, unapologetically. i do not expect you to understand those determinations, being a white supremacist on the one hand, and a cretin on the other. in the meanwhile , you yourself might want to exercise some caution if you elect to move about in their neighborhood. if they find out you are hispanic, you are going to be on the receiving end of an ass-kicking. telling them " I'm one of you; dont beat me, because i am white like you", is not going to work in that case. so, stay in your basement on Broadway, for your own well being.

You guys just kill me :-)
Don't know why the planes were bought other than to accept bribe money, I don't think there's any interest in truly fighting the drug war, if there was they would have put in tougher entry requirements to Colombian nationals a LONG time ago. Apparently the loosening of these is what made it so easy for them to establish satellites of their cartels/organizations in DR (nothing against Colombians, said so by Dominican newspapers and Vincho)

domericano, no need to fear we still have free speech here. We'll criticize the prez for you!

GC, i see you are in fine form with your French put-downs. you are the undefeated heavyweight champeen of ethnic jokes. and, Dominican Chic, i agree whole heartedly with you. however, might i add that it is not just the colombians who are up to no good. the country is crawling with drug runners and money launderers of numerous nationalities. triumphalists in this forum refer to them as "investors". those of us who know better have a different name for them.

Once again I came to the conclusion that there is not more racist people than our dear neighbors, It is wrong to call them names but is fine for them to call derogatory terms to other races without any humane respect, I accept being cretine but not to have double standard, in my book I measure with the same ruler and I do have principles and ethics.

that, Rubirosa, is a matter of self serving opinion. you might have ethics and principles; the problem is that they are questionable.

And you are not racist right?????

Hey Dominican,

We are waiting for you, you don't have the cojones to come in.

But those French people sure know their wine.. Our French representitive hasn't made one sale yet but take him on a business dinner and he will impress everyone with his knowledge of grapes and cheese..

PS he is also no where to be found when the bill comes... coincidence?

Jander:
right on, jander right on, you are killing me!

pololo:
why would Dominicans want to come in? to look for what? a new brand of organic dirt cookies?