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Santo Domingo.– "Every day there are new situations that generate new worries and new uncertainties within the framework of the international economy," Dominican Republic President Leonel Fernandez said Saturday during a two-day economic conference he is hosting.

He called for emerging economies to have greater say in a new world financial system.

The meeting in the Dominican Republic includes Honduran President Manuel Zelaya, Haitian Prime Minister Michele Pierre-Louis, U.S. billionaire George Soros, and Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, who warned that the current crisis will be long and deep.

When the U.S. economic bubble burst, it left behind a black hole that will likely worsen gaps between rich and poor in developing countries, Stiglitz told the conference. To overcome the turmoil and ensure that global financial systems benefit more people, the world needs a new understanding of governments' role in the economy, he added.

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Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 3:42 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
he better speak to the Dominican people soon they are getting fed up
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 8:15 AM
From: United States
as a matter of fact, GC, he should stop speaking and DO something. it appears the the country elected a national orator, not an executive. he was in the company of some formidale minds; he should pay careful attention to wahat they told him. Stiglitz is one of the great economists of our time, and we all know about the prowess of Soros
Written by: hvargas, 23 Nov 2008 8:29 AM
From: Dominican Republic
The problems of economics is an old one that has become a collection of corruption and the inbalance of the distributions of wealth. Along with that we find that an a larger scale there has been ill-formed of managenment that throughout years now it has finally cought with most countries especially the U.S. Yet even though these economins are claiming a crisis their executives are still riding in their private jets from places to places and having a ball of a time. They are still making millions whlie cutting employees and the likes. There are no great economics only people that are supporting the old standards.
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 8:30 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
dread he has to speak to the people and give them the big picture ....there is very little this guy can do in the current state of affairs...but like Roosevelt he has to speak ...most of that New Deal stuff did nothing either..But he gave the people hope
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 8:33 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Vargas very little of that going on ...you must not read much about Christmas in NYC....or you are a commie and want them rounded up and shot...this is a crisis of confidence...to para phrase" the only thing to fear is fear "
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 8:41 AM
From: United States
GC, that is a very inaccurate appraisal of the NEW DEAL. given the conditions of the times, a lot of the bills and legislation were necessary. not all, but many. at least the Glass-Steagall Act sought to regulate the financial industry and avert another Black Friday. it did, until the republicans repealed it, and look at the results. as to LEONEL; a classic case of Nero fiddling. the country has one major resource advantage; tourism. but apparently, his government has no familiarity with the literature indicating that tourism has a finite life cycle, and is dependent on too many exogenous factors (such as world recession, for one). tourism is a venture going entirely wrong, with no corrective measures in evidence..
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 8:46 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Tell that to Miami and the Riviera about tourism .....And Roosevelt was a great president but most of those make work projects were just that and had little to do with resolving the great depression ....Hitler did that for us
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 8:48 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
you are confusing A. Philip Randolph visits to the White House with economic progress.....and the racial part was more Eleanor than Franklin
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 9:01 AM
From: United States
GC, how can you compare Miami and the Riviera with Caribbean tourism? the constructs are not the same. tourism in the caribbean, for example, is characterised by four important dynamics 1)overwhelming preponderance of absentee ownership 2) disproportianate number of expatriate managerial staff 3)heavy economic leakage, with ony 20 cents of each dollar earned remaining in the host country 4) the bulk of local employees are basically low paid wage earners. Miami and the Riviera do not reflect those socioeconomic reagents. the considerations on tourism as a sustainable model for development are completely different. The Statue of Liberty, as a tourist destination, is completely unlike a place like Playa Dorada. Times Square cannot be compared with Punta Cana...two different animals, entirely.
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 9:05 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Tourism is tourism is tourism......the other alternative is exporting sand....who needs it
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 9:09 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
prowess of Soros.?...currency speculation thief and dirt bag along the lines of Marc Rich
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 9:12 AM
From: United States
the definition, yes; the constructs, no. the principals who operate a quaint little inn in Vermont do not have to set aside a huge advertising budget for expenditure in foreign countries. they are not generally owned by someone from Germany. they do not hire some manager from switzerland. they do not import food, beverages, other products from Spain. they keep what they earn, and 80 cents of every dollar they earn does not end up being repatriated to england. that is the difference.
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 9:20 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
there is no alternative for the small islands they have nothing and can do nothing alone ..you always look at this as some grand exploitation by oppressors that is BS....the bottom line is good and getting better ....unless they find gold or diamonds they are stuck...learn from experience not all these people are like fiske
Written by: stefano, 23 Nov 2008 9:22 AM
From: Dominican Republic
the new financial order here we go
he they going to start that shit in dr
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 9:31 AM
From: United States
GC, there is any number of articles by the most scholarly of minds, studying tourism in the caribbean and such third world destinations. the findings are not BS, as you characterise it. the fact is that leadership in the caribbean nations has to strive for a more equitable share of the product. if you believe that the caribbean and central america should not receive a better share tha 20 cents on the dollar, that is OK too. the externalities of tourism only accrue to the host nation. so, it is like taking a low paying job in a factory that makes toxic chemicals, because you have no alternative. YOU are the one who has to take measures to ensure that you do not ingest the fumes. you have to buy the filters and respirators, if the job does not provide them. otherwise, you will have a curtailed life span, and the boss will hire someone else , while you lay on your back in intensive care!
Written by: gmiller261, 23 Nov 2008 9:36 AM
From: United States

LF you are going to be a gangster in a 3rd world country forever, unless you;

Teach your country ethics, integrity and morality.
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 9:52 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
they are by whining socialist educators who have never run a business or met a payroll ...
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 9:55 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Dread you forget the hotel industry in America is permeated still with Europeans and over the last 100 years was dominated by them ...so what
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 9:58 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
in 1975 you could not find a bottle of American wine on any winelist in any hotel or restaurant...now they are in the Majority...so what
Written by: generoso, 23 Nov 2008 10:06 AM
From: United States, Santo Domingo
So what is the DR going to do about it?
I suggest lowering the ITBS tax to a flat 10% as has been proposed to benefit the consumers as well as make the tax easier to apply.
Lowering the gasoline tax would benefit the consumer as well and help to put pressure on the monopolies to lower prices overall.
Making a corporate flat tax of 10% as well would be ideal and there will be less evasion and more transparency.
Removing the discriminatory tax on the "placa" or license plates when new or used cars are imported by customs would lower prices and probably not affect collections as volumes would increase.
These measures are just "wishful thinking" as this government is very "fiscally predatory" and can not envision that as Winston Churchill once said " A nation to try to tax itself to prosperity is like standing on a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle".
Or Mark Twain: "the only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist
leaves the skin"
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 10:10 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
hear hear
Written by: generoso, 23 Nov 2008 10:20 AM
From: United States, Santo Domingo
I have other ideas as well:
You can open a savings account in US dollars or euros in a DR bank but you can not open a checking account.
I propose that the central bank change that measure and allow persons to have dollar and euros
checking accounts as well.
You could lower the "encaje legal" on these accounts that is the reserve that the central bank requires the banks to have in deposit to back them, and make provisions for those monies to be used for financing micro business and small business at a preferential rate.
This would be a de facto dollarization of the economy in time which is long overdue anyway as it would "stop the madness" of putting so many roadblocks into Dominican diaspora bringing their savings to deposit with a Dominican bank instead of a US bank.
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 10:48 AM
From: United States
GC, thank you for making my point for me. "now the majority of wines are local". so is the majority of ownership. and the majority of management. and the majority of products used. not because you have very few alternatives means that you accept the unacceptable, and throw your hands in the air, accepting whatever you get. if metropolitan powers are aware that you will just stand pat and accept what they hand down to you, they will not effect change. tourism is the only resource that the DR possesses which can generate rapid development, and inn which it has comparative advantage. i am mystified by your approach which is, basically "you cannot do without us, so be quiet and take what we offer you".because, the reality is that the tourist industry benefits the north (north america and europe) far more than it benefits the host countries. so, i refuse to accept cruise ships releasing their waste effluents in the caribbean, destroying fragile ecosystems, because they refuse to pay
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 10:50 AM
From: United States
disposal costs. the pristine beauty of the area is that which gives it its allure. if a manageable, sustainable model is not adopted, the culture, society, ecology, and physical beautuy of the area will be ruined, and tourists will simply look for a new destination.
Written by: anthonyC, 23 Nov 2008 11:18 AM
From: United States
"He called for emerging economies to have greater say in a new world financial system."

Shut up and remember your place.
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 12:44 PM
From: United States
are you directing that to me, anthonyc? in the event you are, then you confirm my suspicion that you were truant on the days they taught reading comprehension in grade school (then again, you probably never bothered to attend school) the gravamen of my post is that he is always offering homilies on what should be the applied remedies, but never applies them himself. now you remember your place, as an ignorant stumblebum.
Written by: Euromax This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 12:50 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Bonao, provincia M.N
when are we finally going to become a first world country, with a kick ass military and a stable economy!!???
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 1:04 PM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
euromax are these drugs you are taking readily available
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 1:21 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Dreadlocks, Goulet nice chat ya have going on wow!
Tell me boys how much of the USA is now owned by the Sheeks,Sultins,Chinese etc etc

You cannot keep spending money like a drunking sailor
You have 700 billion for bailouts but no healthcare wow truly amazing
You say nothing about this dreads! Why is that ? I realize you are happy stuffing your face at TGI fridays or some other chain of slop you need take a look at your ways
Why don't you talk about the over weight problem that is going on in the USA,
They have talked about making bigger seats in vehicles come on people wake up already.
Dreads you say nothing about the USA why? Do you even own the statue of liberty anymore or did you sell that also?

dreads lets here about the country you reside for once
make a comment on this stuff
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 1:35 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Goulet,
I see you moved to Toronto did your man from San Fran dump you?

You just change your address on the computer and move to a new country
Ya thats a world expert mmm

What country is next on your list? let me guess Cuba!
Do you just throw a dart and then change your computer address and say you went for a vist or live there.



Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 2:00 PM
From: United States
TFISKE, as much as i find it an unproductive exercise communicating with a numbskull such as yourself, let me indulge you awhile. i am a guy who despises, on principle, the feeling of confusion. as such, i like to tackle one topic at a time, and dedicate my brain cells to it. firstly, no one is more critical of the USA than i can sometimes be. as a matter of fact, i take several hammerings on this board for so doing.but irrelavence is not my forte, neither is relativist analysis. i do not believe that society should let a bank robber go free because there are guys in society committing murder. not because there are miserable aspects within american society, it means we should not address, nor analyse, other societies. it is precisely because i differ with the viewpoint that the USA is the hub of the galaxy that i choose to examine other countries. i reserve my right to criticise the role that tourism, in its current iteration, plays in the development of the economy and society.
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 2:06 PM
From: United States
i reserve the right to reiterate that it is ill conceived, unsustainable, and muddle headed. i defy you to show me any studies that indicate that it has led to worthwhile backward linkages to local production in manufacturing and agriculture, and the attendant economic multipliers. it has not produced much opportunity for upward mobility for Dominicans, because of the massive numbers of foreign managers. it is a dirigible whose policies are directed by the owners of foreign capital. their vision is different, because their dynamics are different. while we should be seeking lower head counts, with greater expenditure per tourist, the external operators seek high head counts; more airline tickets, and accomodation packages sold means more profit. more bodies on the ground , spending very little money outside the enclaves, is more trouble than it is worth. if you can offer a counter argument, i am all ears!
Written by: anthonyC, 23 Nov 2008 2:13 PM
From: United States
The warning signs of a Knee-Jerk Liberal

1. They think every critique is a personal insult towards them.

Example: Drey wrote; "are you directing that to me, anthonyc?"

No Dready. I was directing my comment to statement in the news article.
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 2:19 PM
From: United States
knee-jerk liberal; now, that is a new one! did you make that up all by yourself?
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 3:56 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Dreadlocks,
Now I see why you must focus on one thing at a time your just not that smart!
Less head count wow that is not the answer man come on already wake up please you must be smarter than this. This means less job's hotels will close, businesses go under and work force out on street. Chefs, maids, bartenders, etc etc etc wake up man get your head out of your xxx
This is not the answer at all, the DR needs to improve the roads so people can travel and leave the resorts, spend money and see the amazing country. This way smaller hotels will prosper and dominican business will thrive. The goverment should support local business and provide training,education,grants etc.
Punta cana was a tiny hut of airport and look at it today ! How many people have jobs because of this growth please tell me you are smarter than this DREADS
Wow it amazes me how you think and actually believe you are the smart one wow!
Not everyone is afraid to leave the resorts like you say
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 3:59 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Dreads
Tourists spend money on tours, restaurants, casino, etc man come on are you for real!

This is what is needed better infastructure for all to proper and thrive

If you could move around the island easier things would boom in all sectors!

This is what is needed now and the goverment understands that
Written by: jacirez This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 4:02 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
The President Can do no wrong!
The President Can do no wrong!
The President Can do no wrong!
The President Can do no wrong!
The President Can do no wrong!
..Oh, Damn. I forgot my medication again...!
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 4:13 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Jacirez
I never said that

They all are the same even the one we have cannot win a majority!

The people of Ontario are voting liberal now as its all immagrints looking for a hand out

Toronto is far from looking like the Toronto of old thanks,

I suprised the NDP has not taking over yet

The rural areas voted PC but the cities all Liberal that is quite a change

Then we have Quebec who for years wanted out of Canada.

Everybody wants something for nothing its the new way I guess.
I say how about get a job, work hard and stop whining about all this crap it isnt going to change much and never has, Goverment is always going to be talked about if it changed in the DR tommorow do ya really think things would improve!
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 4:17 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Alberta Health Care,

Lucky Guy
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 7:15 PM
From: United States
?know something, TFISKE? i used to believe that you were just a stoner, and you posted whenever you got high. now, i realise you are merely clueless. have you read what i posted? i specifically stated that the tourist industry, as it is currently formatted, has diminimus backward linkage to the dominican economy. that is not my opinion; numerous scholarly articles have been written on the issue. because of the enclave model of tourism, the surrounding areas do not benefit from the tourist product. as the scholar TG FREITAG notes, the tourism model in places like the DR is based on the trickle down philosophy. if the foreign absentee owners, and the expatriate managerial staff make great sums of money, some crumbs will fall off the table for the locals, who will get a few low paying jobs. as a matter of policy, tour operators specifically caution the visitor to stay on the compound (referred to by the aforementioned TG FREITAG as " a vacation concentration camp", and not to venture
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 7:22 PM
From: United States
afield. there are all the amenities of home on the compound, mostly to cater to the "tourist bubble", which is the coccoon of security that some tourists like to feel around rhem. so, the beef is imported, the pizza sauce, the lamb, you name it. even the souvenirs sold in the gift shops, with the Dominican flag all over them, have a little "made in China " sticker on the bottom. meanwhile, the government has to spend millions on additional street and residential security, because of negative offshoots such as expanding prostitution, drug sales, and visitor robberies. limited resources, all misdirected at tourism, could be spent on other ventures, but are not. so, in order to get 20 cents on the tourism dollar, while the metropolitan countries get the other 80, the host countries bear the brunt of the pain.
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 7:24 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Dreads
Ya I read the crap you write and it painful! You quote this that and have of these guys have never been to the DR. Scholar TG Freitag calls it a concentration camp what a joke!

You want to compare to concentration camp really! moron as I said

Let see great beach,perfect weather, great hotels, super people and thats a concentration camp. Stop quoting things you no nothing about you are afraid thats what your goverment has been selling for years! Thats how Bush lasted 8yrs selling fear
Tell me are you that scared for real to leave the resort or what! What about New Orleans and several other areas in the US

You keep reading the TG FRIETAG crap he a scholar all right wow!

Build a road they will move around and if your so scared stay home in a bubble with TG
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 7:32 PM
From: United States
so, TFISKE, instead of lacing your responses with gratuitous little bons mots, why don't you do some reading on the matter, and educate yourself vis a vis the realities? guys who come here with golf bags to play a few rounds of golf and pick up the obligatory chica, are not expected to understand these issues instinctively.maybe you should interview someone who owns a restaurant in somewhere like Puerto Plata, or a similar destination. ask them what benefits they are deriving from the tourist industry. the all inclusive motif is perfectly suited for backward linkage, because a lot of services, such as the catering and entertainment aspects, could be outsourced. but the product is completely monopolised, in order to maximise profits to the owners, tour operators, and service providers. the local businesses get the crumbs.
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 7:42 PM
From: United States
you are really an idiot! the imagery of a concentration camp is aimed at describing the sealed nature of the compound, with the visitors staying inside, and the locals being restricted entry. i understand your types; you refer to Dominicans as "super people". typical condescension from societies which view third world people as some "exotic" creatures, who can be referenced by caricature. so, they are either "super, nice, pleasant, helpful", or they are "crooked, violent, scheming, distrustful". well TFISKE, there is a continuum between these two antipodes, just like there is in people from Canada. Dominicans are just normal people, like the guys you sit on the train with in Banff, or wherever you reside. for that reason, they are entitled to benefit from the assets and products of their country. the northern countries want to enrich themselves from places like the caribbean; neo colonialism. why should the Dominicans not get their fair share, too?
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 8:45 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Who owns the airport in punta cana tell me is it a dominican!

Who built the roads? who own restaurants, bars, etc is it dominicans?
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 9:04 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Who built the town beside the airport in punta cana with new homes and businesses owned by dominicans. These are people who live and work in the hotels and tourist industry

Things are not perfect but are a hell of alot better than 10yrs ago

If you actually got out and talked to the people rather than read your scholar books you might realize this.

Written by: Juango, 23 Nov 2008 9:15 PM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
Leonel is about to dance his last dance. His people have now discovered what he really is, a brillant orator, but sucks as an executive administrator. He is spineless and almost bafoonish is his contradictary speeches. He is fortunate that the majority of his people have little to no education, and can be easily misled. Metro is his Legacy, but will haunt him when it fails to operate as planned.
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 23 Nov 2008 9:25 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
LF is still smarter than Bush!

If he is gone like you say who is the next crook in line?

Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Nov 2008 9:48 PM
From: United States
TFISKE, having read so many of your rabid musings, i revert to my favorite bromide "never argue with an idiot; at a distance , nobody can tell the difference". dude, are there any libraries in the woods where you apparently live? go read some books! you know what books are , don't you? i am sure you have seen them on TV. again with the relativist arguments, bringing the USA into the conversation. stay on topic, for God's sake. and, your disdain for the work of scholars who research the issue is indicative of the fact that you are an anti-intellectual moron, who is more comfortable tooting the bong than making sensible inquiry into matters of concern. i see you have a penchant for trashing the USA; I would rather die in the USA than live in Canada.
Written by: mrios, 23 Nov 2008 10:01 PM
From: United States
All World currency is backed up by GOLD, who controls the Worlds Gold controls the World, All 7 Nations have formed, Can any body say.............."NEW WORLD ORDER".
As for my self and my family I have tried to become totally self sufficient, I encourage everybody to do the same.
Now that Obama has won the election......I heard a speech the other day, "CHANGE" sounded more like...........A flash back back from the Clinton years. His plan is no plan at all, so elects old Clintinites for his cabinet, yet close ones eyes and you'll swear it was x-Bush speaking WHY ? "Obsama ben laden were gonna kill you...We'll send more Troops from Iraq into Afghanistan approx. 40,000 total "........And to think Obama hit it big time with "Elected, I'll end the war in the middle east in 18 months" Back to reality....Maybe Obama & Michelle will buy Beach land in Punta Cana like the Clintons and everything will be all right.
Written by: anthonyC, 23 Nov 2008 10:56 PM
From: United States
"All World currency is backed up by GOLD, who controls the Worlds Gold controls the World"

No it doesn't
The US dropped the Gold Standard years ago.
Also the Bretton Woods pretty much collapsed after Nixon eliminated the Fixed Gold price in 1971.
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 24 Nov 2008 2:29 AM
From: Canada, Alberta
Dreadlocks,
I am glad you would rather die in the USA over Canada
This way you won't fill our hospitals from the grease in your body after another face filling night at cracker barrel.I spend alot of time in the USA and trust me you have issues man but most pretend its all going away soon and I beg to differ.
Most americans have little knowledge of the Globe this is not a slam its the truth take a survey the next time you stuff your face at cracker barrel.
you yap off about some gay books you read and act like thats all true try, michael moores book also it must be true its in a book.
Please man I dont care if you ever visit Canada or even like the country.
You probably have no idea where Alberta is.
If you came to Canada I am sure it was to buy real beer and cigarettes at the border
I sick of you guys hacking on the DR. Its not so bad and yes it has issues then again so do you.
Ps lay off the dipping sauces in those restaurants they are bad for your body. I also sug
Written by: dreadlocks, 24 Nov 2008 7:10 AM
From: United States
i will not lower myself to getting into a peeing contest with you over the relative merits of canada versus the USA. i have been there at least 50 times, and the only thing i remember vividly is the racist immigration and customs personnel who strive to make my experience a misery. you guys up there trash america at all opportunities, but i would never ever consider living there for all the tea in china. at least with americans i know what i am getting. if they do not like you, you know it, and move on. they do not give you some faux civility, then stab you in the back when you are not looking, or listening. as to your avowed disdain for "gay writers", it shows your contempt for knowledge and research, the condition that renders you an ignorant philistine. so go back to growing that hygroponic weed, and hitting hockey pucks. real people have better pursuits to attend to. in the usa we have issues, but i'd rather deal with them than visit Saskatoon!
Written by: mrios, 24 Nov 2008 11:42 AM
From: United States
Every time I think of 70's I'm reminded of Watergate, Nixon, the end of the War........Then I'm reminded of the mid / late swinging 70's Carter, Billy Bear and when OPEC became a house hold word , long gas lines, Inflation, recession and the selling of U.S Gold deposits to the Middle East Country's which helped the U.S economy recovery........All Cash Currency has to be backed up by Gold, Gold is the World Currency.
Written by: generoso, 24 Nov 2008 11:47 AM
From: United States, Santo Domingo
dread:
you mean "hydroponic weed" don't you?
PS You got any?
Any time I went to Canada when I went through customs and immigration I thought I had done something wrong from the coarse manner that I was ALWAYS treated.
Cannucks are sure special.
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 24 Nov 2008 12:11 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Dreadlocks,
Amazing customs checked you out wow! Your and idiot man its there job to check on greasy guys entering the country!

Now you say Canadians are racist wow!

Get a life stop and whining about everything !


Written by: dreadlocks, 24 Nov 2008 12:23 PM
From: United States
actually, generoso, it is hygroponic. i thought it was hydroponic too, but i checked it. and looka here! the sub humanoid TFISKE has rejoined the fray, to regale us with more of his wit and wisdom. to show you how bright your customs guys are this happened to me on one occasion. i went to Toronto at christmas, and immigration was herding ALL the black folks into this room, to be grilled.they sat us all on benches, like cattle, and called us by turn. the guy asked me the same questions like 10 times, trying to see if he could trip me up. finally, when i had had enough of the shenanigans, i said to him " look sir, i came into this country on a United States passport. people who have a legal right to live in the USA do not try to smuggle themselves into Canada. it is usually the other way around" whereupon, he released me to go join my friend in the lobby. to say "canadians are racist" is too general a statement. sadly, the preponderant majority of those i have met are.
Written by: dreadlocks, 24 Nov 2008 12:29 PM
From: United States
but you see, they see racism as something which is an artifact of that debased society, the USA. they are too civilised and urbane for that. only filthy, obese, junk food eating Americans are that debased. WRONG!!! the apparent liberalism is all a facade. the only difference is that the racists in the USA let you know they are right off the bat. those in canada invite you to have a drink with them, then spill the drink on you.
Written by: , 24 Nov 2008 12:32 PM
From:
mrios you must be a republican sound upset, let it go man
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 24 Nov 2008 12:39 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Why don't you take a trip to Cullman Alabama and see how you make out!

Toronto is the entry point for all immigrants, refugees etc dont feel bad they have a job

I believe the 911 terrorists had passports and its called racial profiling
I can tell you the USA has done it for years!

Its so sad your life you poor guy whine! whine! whine!

Nobody loves me they are all racist

Can somebody give me a handout please
Written by: dreadlocks, 24 Nov 2008 12:44 PM
From: United States
you have got to be an idiot, you do not get it. i know what to expect in some outback in the USA, not only in Alabama. but they do not hide it and act all liberal, progressive and civilised. they put it out there for you to see. no BS, straight shooting. get the picture, nitwit?
Written by: generoso, 24 Nov 2008 2:30 PM
From: United States, Santo Domingo
TFISKE
Hey I resent being called an idiot man by "subhumans" species as my friend dread has rightfully called you.
I will put a strong Haitian voo doo jinx on you Mr. SubCANNUCK, AYIBOBO, AYIBOBO!
Q: Do you know how many Canadians it takes to unscrew a lightbulb in the ceiling?
A: One to hold the lightbulb and four to spin him around
Written by: dreadlocks, 24 Nov 2008 6:10 PM
From: United States
GC, Canada should deport this jerk to parts unknown. he is an embarrassment to all mankind
Written by: jacirez This user is banned, 24 Nov 2008 6:15 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
generoso,

You Ignorant Peasant!!!!
Written by: mrios, 24 Nov 2008 8:16 PM
From: United States
Sorry,
To ALL, but it's not a question of who's right or left......But a question of who's right or wrong, Yes! I am a republican......the party of Lincoln and ALL, I can't help my self, having done said that and now that the election is finally over. It's time we get together and off our DUFITS and get together as HUMANS and work as a TEAM, putting all personal beliefs aside AND HELPING HUMAN KIND, IT"s THE NAME OF THE GAME...If whats helps you does not help others, then make reconsiderations we share the same PLANET......As a friend who flew on a past space shuttle mission once told me, Miguel "From space Earth looks so small in a vast endless ocean of Darkness in the Universe, it's hard to believe we on small ass Earth can't get along" if that makes one freak out.....Good, it only shows your HUMAN thats all.
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 24 Nov 2008 9:35 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Dreadlocks,goulet,generoso,

Goulet your no canadian you lived in Toronto for short time in the 60,s! One week your cuban,american,canadian you guys are loyal to nothing!
GC oldman, you and your buddies dreads and generoso are living in the past you are viva la Cuba dreamers!

Generoso, nice joke are you at a special needs school? Go ahead and Voo doo away, I would put a curse on you but somebody already did I guess.

Dreads are you whining again, get over it man you think everyone is racist. Cut your hair clean yourself up, pull up your pants and customs might leave you alone! when customs ask you a question answer. When they ask what your doing... tell them, I do nothing! They like the truth..

You probably have a record or said something stupid to the custom agent!

Its never your fault is it Dreads? You blame everyone and love to use the race card as an excuse.
Written by: generoso, 24 Nov 2008 9:55 PM
From: United States, Santo Domingo
TFISKE
WE HAVE GOT YOUR NUMBER YOU ARE HAITIAN!
You bit the bait and confessed, why are you so ashamed of your nationality?
Bring on the curses they only make me stronger! Unlike you Haitians that only know the most primitive and backwards voo doo, I studied with real Tibetan masters in Nepal and India.
I can make all your hate and havoc thrown at me go back to you ten fold!
Written by: TFISKE This user is banned, 24 Nov 2008 10:13 PM
From: Canada, Alberta
Generoso,

Ya I a Haitan you will be okay! I bit the bait wow! Your a moron
I am Canadian and have no problems saying it. Canada is a great country and so is the DR

This is why your so wacked! You studied in Nepal and India wow! You studied with real Tibetan masters not the Knock off Tibetan masters.

You are ready for a career in ? what type of job will that give you?

Sounds like a money making education, let me guess they took you in and fed you also.

Was dreads with you? Did the Tibetans teach you the hate part mmmm... shut up you loser.

Get out of your robe and get a job



Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 24 Nov 2008 10:37 PM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
second rate loser golf pro {alleged} you drunkin bumpkin....pity for you is all that comes to mind
Written by: generoso, 25 Nov 2008 12:05 AM
From: United States, Santo Domingo
TFISKE
You are drunk you loser! I can smell your foul breath from here.
You only talk about money, people who do that were born in need and scarcity are afraid of the world and going hungry and homeless.
I don't need a job, people ask me for jobs and if I think they are worth it I hire them.
You are dumb and crude and are jettisoning an opportunity in your stupidity and anger to learn something from a few real teachers right here that can not educate you because your mind is so full and nothing new can enter it.
By your syntax and sentence construction I can tell that you lack a higher education base if you
ever got your high school diploma which I doubt.
Bigots and hate mongers like you are what reflects a bad impression of their countries to others.
The Tibetans did teach me to defend myself and uproot evil, and I am not the type that turns the other cheek.
Have a miserable rest of your despicable life freezing your butt!
Written by: dreadlocks, 25 Nov 2008 9:44 AM
From: United States
Generoso, this is why Nancy Reagan made a name for herself with the simple homily "just say no to drugs". see what it can do? under no natural circumstances can anyone be born as idiotic as TFISKE, the scourge of the tundra. but he appears to have indulged unrelievedly in hallucinogens all his life, and whatever diminimus brain he possibly started with is completely, and irrevocably, ossified. that is why he writes like a child, in choppy, disconnected sentences. his brain cannot process information efficiently; he cannot form sensible arguments. so, the rhesus monkey resorts to adolescent ad hominems like "you are a loser", "get a job", "you are looking for a handout", and other simplistic remarks. yes, the kind of remarks which are usually attributed to kids in grade 10 at an american public shool. TFISKE; i have no idea of your age, but you should consider remedial education. meanwhile, come on down to the DR soon; there's lots of good soap here. bring your stench to the
Written by: dreadlocks, 25 Nov 2008 9:46 AM
From: United States
glorious caribbean. we will wash and disinfect your miserable carcass, and all north america will be in our everlasting debt. failing that, go die quietly somewhere. the world has enough problems as it is.
Written by: johnnyb, 25 Nov 2008 11:36 AM
From: United Kingdom
The bottom line is the world as we know it is on the edge of collapse,greed and corruption higher than are goverments are the ones controlling the monetery system.
We need only look at the IMF loaning to goverments at high interest which in turn creates more economic downfall.
They talk about a new world financing system but what do they mean?
The AMERO which will come into place to have canada,mexico and the usa as one place just like the euro.
The federal reserve which has been owned by an elite few since 1913 has manipulated goverments ad politicians for a long time ,why cant our goverments take control of the money?
Because of private multi billion dollar corrupt companies who bankroll are senators,congressman and presidents, these are facts just research the people behind world politicians.
Research are presidents who pays there campaigns?those are the real goverments.

Written by: dreadlocks, 25 Nov 2008 11:51 AM
From: United States
it is ironic that one of the participants was George Soros, the great proponent of privatization and deregulation, and probably the world's foremost currency speculator. hmmm...
Written by: johnnyb, 25 Nov 2008 12:17 PM
From: United Kingdom
Exactly,if we do are research and look at what is really happening globally,then we can know the truth.
This is not a conspiracy theory, just by looking into those behind are leaders, it is quiet evident who is pulling the strings.
It is so obvious but we still think in general are goverment will do right by us ,those who have tried have been killed or thrown from power.
Are goverments tell us we have to fight terror, what terror?there has only been one attack on american soil in 7 years, if someone wanted to attack similtanous places at the same time it would have been done by now,the argument against that the goverment has spent billions on homeland security.
What security the borders are wide open to illegals and criminals.
when you enter the states now they give you a retina scan and fingerprint, isnt your passport just scaned good enough?There is now to much of an intrusive aspect into are personal lives.


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