" Brazil praises US$93M warplane deal with Dominican Republic"....dumbest headline yet

I am sure mr dunlop got his piece of the pie....this is how their kids get to go to tony schools

Best headline yet - DR needs an Air Force again.
Russia is steppingup protection:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200811...._ylt=As33wHjnxd3tFbUs3fKgxM8Gw_IE
It's navy has returned to assist in protection:
http://www.russianews.net/story/434581
Brazil has Tupi class submarines and an aircraft carrier.
http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/brazilian_navy.htm
Russia and Brazil co-operate in space.
http://www.spacemart.com/reports/....etween_Russia_And_Brazil_999.html
More co-operation on nueclear and aerospace....
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081125/lt_brazil_russia.html?.v=2
Brazil will be well positioned to help with DR's Air Foace/Navy's further development.
S.

Sure he's praising the deal. He didn't buy them. He sold them.

isn't it just humorous, juanb? the seller praising the deal? a novel idea, to be sure!

Russian ship limps into Venezuela 4 days behind schedule.

Russian Flagship is 1970's technology and is in no way capable of even protecting itself in a modern warefare enviroment.

Russia has not won a war on it's own in over 100 years.

Russian equipment is constantly outclassed by US and Western equipment,

We got jerked!

Russia has not won a war on it's own in over 100 years.

US has not won a war on its own in over 100 years.

Invasions supposidly to support friendly leaders, Haiti, Niceragua, Panama etc. But these suppoed to assisting one side in a civil war to win.
Russia/UK/Canada/China etc. was ally in WW2.
S. Korea was ally in Korean War.
Lost Vietnam war - in any case helped by Australia.
Iraq not won but UK and other allies.
US defeated in Nicaagua 1927
UK won Falklands by itself.

Russia defeated The Whites. They were assisted by Japan, Britain, Canada, France, United States, Germany, Australia, including two who received the Victoria Cross for their actions against the Red Army - Greece & Czechoslovakia). by brilliant tactics.
Man go back to school.
When the Shuttle isn't working (often) the World depends on Russian Technology to support the International Space Station.

Of couse the Indian tribes had mostly been brutally masacred by 1908.

http://www.gilderlehrman.org/coll...._archive/docs_archive_Chehaw.html
General Jackson not withstanding!

Russia has supercaviting torpedoes - much faster.
Torpedoes are efffective see video Mk 48.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zesiBbCBrj0
Supercavitating are better.
S.

Tudo bon tudo bon
Guys take your money and run! You have earned it!
Or maybe you are prodding el presidente a bit to finally sign the bill that it cost you guys so much sweat, tears
and who knows what else to pass both legislative houses. eh?

Maybe one day he will see a SUPER TUCANO on his planes butt. and gets shot down in the plane taking his cut to Brazil.

abc,

You don't even know what supercavitation means.

If you did you would know that it is pretty much useless except in point and shoot fireing which any relativly modern sub or ship can avoid.

Now most Torpedoes are guided either by wire(Being phased out) or active sonar guidance. Supercavitation is incompatible with active sonar seekers.

Not to mention that an SC torpedo is about as quiet as a colmado on a Saturday night. easily avoided.
So keep dreaming but leave military matters to people who actually know about it.

abc:

Falklands invasion supported by CIA eye in the sky. Thank you, come again!

abc,

The US 8th Airforce won the war in Europe.
Also the US supplied the USSR with a large portion of it's fighting equipement.

US has not won a war on its own in over 100 years.

and you doubt that it can? to infer that the US is uncapable of wining a war is just a dumb comment

Do you know why DR, Cuba, PR are not Spanish terrotories today?
How about Nam?
How about
How about WWI where US supported the allies?
How about WWII where US supported the allies? who did Japan surrender to? who did the Germans surrender to? starting in Italy?
How about Desert storm?
Do you call the Iraq war a military defeat? it may be a moral defeat but never a military one.

When Russian subs arent working they depend on everybody to save their sailors, yet their pride is bigger and allow for them to die.

I would rephrase your comment as the US hasnt had a worthy adversary in the last 100 years and has been pushed to engage in little skirmishes for political/geo/humanitarian interest.

precisionM, you say, "how about nam"? what about nam? what is your take? and, it is difficult to assert that you have won a war over insurgents, such as in Iraq. they do not lay down arms, nor sign treaties. so, how do you know when you win?. what if they are quiet for two years, then blow up a gathering of 500 people? did you still win?

US has not won a war on its own in over 100 years.

I commented on ant complaint that Russa han't won a war on its own in 100 years. USA neither. It's a historical fact - not inference. The total ignorance on history of posters amazes me!
German surrendered to Allies and Soviets 1945.
Grand Admiral Karl Dönitz. Walter Bedell Smith signed on behalf of the Western allies, and Ivan Sousloparov on behalf of the Soviets. French general François Sevez signed as the official witness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Instrument_of_Surrender
Japan accepted Potsdam declaration.
surrender was to China, US, GB. etc.
US acted on bahalf of allies:

After MacArthur's signature as Supreme Commander, the following representatives signed the instrument of surrender on behalf of each of the Allied Powers:

Fleet Admiral Chester Nimitz for the United States (9:12 a.m.).[3]
General Hsu Yung-Ch'ang for the Republic of China (9:13 a.m.).[4]
Admiral Sir Bruce Fraser for the United Kingdom (9:14 a.m.).[5]
Lieutenant General Kuzma Derevyanko for the Soviet Union (9:16 a.m.).[6]
General Sir Thomas Blamey for Australia (9:17 a.m.).[7]
Colonel Lawrence Moore Cosgrave for Canada (9:18 a.m.).[8]
Général d'Armée Philippe Leclerc de Hautecloque for France (9:20 a.m.).[9]
Luitenant-Admiraal C.E.L. Helfrich for the Netherlands (9:21 a.m.).[10]
Air Vice-Marshal Leonard M. Isitt for New Zealand (9:22 a.m.).[11]
were signatories to accept.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Instrument_of_Surrender
Sue your school and get the history staff fired!

Nam we know US lost and were total idiots to boot. Some of the generals would have had trouble running a chicken farm.
Sensible Americans went to Sweden!.
singc another song and stop spreading your ignorance!
http://www.riotfolk.org/member_music_lyrics.php?id=4&song_id=833
S.

abc,

You are a sad jealous individual.

The US won WW2. Nobody can contest that fact.
In Europe it was the 8th Airforce and the Industrial might.

Against Japan the US was on their own except for some Brits in Burma holding a few pockets.

The USSR declared War on Japan after we made Hiroshima a "glow in the dark" city. Typical Communist bravery.

Vietnam was a political lost not a Military one. In fact the US military nevr lost a single battle.

anthonyc, tell that to the families of the 53,000 lost. i do not adhere to some simplistic arithmetic of victory, which says that if they kill one of yours, and you kill two of theirs, you won. that perception is for kids playing in sandboxes.

never a single battle that is correct ....The Tet offensive portrayed in our press as some kind of defeat was a crushing defeat for North Viet Nam

Dreadlock I said Military victory, Sadam's army is gone.

forgive me, precisionM. i had no idea that the objective of the war in Iraq was to defeat Saddam's army. and GC, there is a difference between a battle and a war. i do not think any historian will concede that the USA won the Vietnam War.

Yes, and would the US have let the Gremans surrender to Russia as well as the Allies if they won WW2 alone - and of course E. Germany would never had existed?
You must have eaten too much turkey and drunk too much wiskey!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worl....o/hitler_russia_invasion_05.shtml
And of course the US was defeated in Vietnam. They could not hold territory.
S.

The only war really won by a single country in the last 100 yearsmay have been the Falklands. Tukey could also claim its invasion of Cyprus but not a war only an invasion. Maybe a couple of African wars?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War
http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/08/otis2508.html
S.

BRIC countries are getting together!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7751562.stm
More tie ups with Brazil for DR are possible.
Much fashion can be exported:
http://www.listindiario.com/app/article.aspx?id=79448
S.

A war may comprehend many objectives, you cannot accomplish any without a military objective completed.

Nam is a defeat depending on which historian you want to listen to, the US retreat was based on a treaty signed and later not followed by the North, just as much as they dont abide today. There is no country that would really be able to defeat the US in a conventional war, of course the nature of conflicts today is very dinamic, one of the reasons why I dont support the iraq war is because I believe the US is wasting the greatest military asset in history in iraq. Let's wait for history to judge the iraq invation. I dont have a lot of hope the US will ever be thanked for anything done in any theater, people forget rather quick and always will believe that the US interest is oil or other stupid reason.

Dread,

"anthonyc, tell that to the families of the 53,000 lost."

Watch what you say.
Among those 53,000 wasa member of my Family. So your insipid remark has no validity.

The US Military was hampered from Day 1 in Vietnam by namby pamby leftest wussies who should have left the war to the Military.

Written by: abc200, 27 Nov 2008 3:08 PM
From: United Kingdom
Yes, and would the US have let the Gremans surrender to Russia as well as the Allies if they won WW2

Do you even know any History.

FDR sold out the West to the Soviets. OR should i saw Eleanor did?

PrecisionM

I agree with your list of war "victories" by the US wit the exception of:

"Do you know why DR, Cuba, PR are not Spanish terrotories today?" .. Cuba and PR yes, but DR? Please don't credit the US for our multiple attempts to achieve independence.

"How about Nam?" you can't be serious about this.

anthonyc, you think you are the only one who lost family members, relatives , and friends in vietnam? i lost all the above categories. ergo, i do not need some sanctimonious scolding about insipid remarks. if the external imperial governments and militaries had not tried to maintain indo-china in a state of colonialism to bleed rubber trees, none of this would have happened in the first place.

Let's blame then the #$%#damn rubber trees!

no , generoso; let's blame colonialist expansion, and anti-colonialist sentiment in the colonies.

dreadlocks
correction if I may interject.... Imperialist Colonialist expansion.

i stand corrected, generoso.

"Written by: dreadlocks, 27 Nov 2008 8:32 PM
From: United States
anthonyc, you think you are the only one who lost family members, relatives , and friends in vietnam?"

HEY SFB,

You are the one who said...And I quote;
"anthonyc, tell that to the families of the 53,000 lost."

Well I am one of the families so get off your sactimonious pilar of delusions of grandeur.....Because you are wrong. Plain and simple. You are wrong.

Hey aC it was the British who showed the Japanese how to sink fleets such as Perl Harbour in Italy (Trananto ) in 1940 ( a great UK victory !! ) and Roosevelt used Perl harbour as the mother of all conspiracies to get US to enter WW2 and defeat the US Kennedy pro Nazis.
Of, couse if you really believe the c.... you write you should press for an Congress Inquiry into FDR's betrayal. But to me it seems fair that the Russians, who suffered the most casualities, should get a proportion of the spoils of war, as did the US in their manipulations to set up permanent bases in Europe and control governments/markets. But history has shown that these spoils of war only last a certain time.
Actually of course Churchill and others agreed at Yalta the future pattern.
Russia may have kept its bargain by attacking Japan but not declaring war. FEDR certainly asked for Russian help against Japan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalta_Conference
Your history teachers should be sacked.
S.

cont/
No wonder your mixture of lies, distortion and crazed opiions is so out of touch with reality.
S.

and Roosevelt used Perl harbour as the mother of all conspiracies to get US to enter WW2 and defeat the US Kennedy pro Nazis"

Pearl Harbor was a conspiracy by FDR to get us into WWII?
Are you really that jealous of the US that you balme everything on the US?

anthonyc, you have got to be the absolutely most fatuous , mindless individual i have had the displeasure to communicate with. i am still waiting to hear one remark from you which is not some quizzical non sequitur. it is depressing to attempt to reason with someone who has such an inflexible, monochromatic mind, and is so dogmatic, to boot. it is called idiocy!

Come on aC - your ignorance amazes me!
FDR the criminal conspirator!
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/pearl.html
Must be true.
Your history teachers failed you again!
S.

aC
Is Paris Hilton out of time?
http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/what-were-they-thinking/2483?nc

http://music.yahoo.com/Rolling-Stones/Out-Of-Time/lyrics/1502289
Are you?
S.

somebody failed him, ABC, but it was not his history teacher. it was his truant officer, who failed to haul his backside to school!

Dreadie,

You are so predictable....Can't refute my statements so you turn to personal insults. Sorry, but I won't be sucked into your childish games.
Come back when you have concrete information.

abc,

You are just a sad, silly boy.

Russian leader is in Cuba. Maybe aC should follow to impove education. We have Cuban doctors here - they are good. Hear instruction in history in Cuba is good also.
S.

at least i stick around. you, on the other hand , make nonsensical remarks, then run away. remember this one "it is the consensus that the policies of FDR turned the Hoover recession into the Great Depression"? then you hightailed it into obscurity until the laughter subsided?

aC
you a lame dog walk away singing they are coming to take me away ha ha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o7bMdAyPes
to USA funny farm.

When living in a tar paper shack cuban doctors come in handy ....but they will never sober your pickled brain

Yes, aC's brain is pickled. I agree GC. If US had won WW2 on its own how come half of Germany ended up in Russian hands.
Thank you for your support - I am privalidged to give therapy to the likes of aC. Truth is important in the face of lies and illusions!
S.