President Leonel Fernandez poses with former Cuban leader Fidel Castro and Venezuela president Hugo Chavez, two of the nations whose citizens often adopt the Dominican citizenship.
580 Cubans, 481 Chinese, 348 Americans, 147 Venezuelans, 18 Haitians
SANTO DOMINGO.- The Central Electoral Board’s (JCE) Administrative Chamber president yesterday revealed that most of the foreigners living in the country lack the certificate of residence, whereas statistics show that Cubans lead all foreigners in adopting Dominican citizenship.
Robert Rosario asked the consulates and embassies to instruct their citizens to conclude the accreditation process.
He said the situation has become a problem since those foreign citizens don’t figure as registered in the JCE archives. “The majority of the foreigners don’t finish by retrieving the residence certificate and many foreigners simply don’t obtain it and this is a time for us to identify to those foreigners."
He said the process of gathering biometric data seeks to register the fingerprints, the signature and the photo in a single document is a great opportunity for the foreigners to register and regulate their situation.
According to Interior and Police Ministry statistics 2,234 foreigners have decided to adopt the Dominican nationality in the last four years, this amount: 580 Cubans, 481 Chinese, 348 Americans, and 147 Venezuelans.
Oddly, only 18 Haitians have taken the oath to become a naturalized Dominican citizen.
From: Dominican Republic, la Romana
the process of obtaining a residents certificate is too clumsy and full of hassles :many people start the process and give up in despair ..especially when they are older people who have come to the DR to retire . Most retirees pay land taxes here as well as the direct sales taxes and have a commitment to this lovely country .In addition most live outside the capital . So that the interrigations and medical checks that are conducted in the capital as well as the information that has to be very recent from the home country always seems to have hurdles that are easier to avoid than jump over .
There a re many many foreigners living in the DR who contribute substantially to the economy and who would like to have a residency certificate if only the process was more simple
From: Dominican Republic, Punta Cana
Ok,
I suggest to give Dominican Citizenship for Free to All the foreigners who wants to take it in determined period.
If Dominican Republic continue with the same system in obtaining Residence, I dont see the reason why any Foreigner should have Residence at all.
Lawyers cost is around 800 dollars, and actualy the cost of the residence (with medical exam and taxes) is around 150 dollars.
Then, nobody speaks English (at least) or other languages, in the immigration.
Then, Foreigner have to wait Three Months to get Residence. And after its no good for nothing especially, you can not vote, you would still need a garantee for bank financing, buying leased car etc.
Commonly, foreigners dont make Dominican residence, as the process is long, cost a lot, you never know if the lawyer is actually going to finish it or not.
There should be a easy, one day process, where with a passport, and medical exam, you can get yuor ID in the same day (its a metter of printing speed)
From: Dominican Republic, Punta Cana
I want to Vote as well. L
From: Dominican Republic, Punta Cana
As many Dominicans seeks paradise in other countries, there are many foreigners who are willing to live here and likes living here, or they have their businesses or properties.
More legitimate Foreigners that we have here will bring more money to D.R. ITs more convenient to open a Bank Account, or pay taxes with Cedula Dominicana then with passport.
This is a very friendly country, so the process of obtaining a reidence card should be more practical. For Example, in Punta Cana (Bavaro) foreigners can not get a Residence Card, but have to travel 250 km to Santo Domingo, and as you can not get a Papel de Buena Conducta here as well, you have to loose two days in Capital, or pay the lawyer, and also loose two days in Sto Dgo (capi capi)
Milosh Korach
(but they call me Milo)
From: Dominican Republic
The reasons for having all the legal requirements fulfilled in Santo Domingo area many.
One of the main reasons is that the government doesn't trust any local government officials to be fair and honest in handling the numerous funds that would cross their desks.
It is just an example of the old system handed down from the early spaniards who originally ran things here andthat was the result of 800 years of Arab occupation with all it's corruptional methodologies.
Hell, read a bit of history and you'll catch on real fast.
TB
Written by: abc200, 5 Nov 2008 12:42 PM
From: United Kingdom
Most other countries charge 5-10,000 dollars plus sustantial investment is required. e.g. in Panama 40,000-80,000 dollars in forestry. Pehraps the DR could see this as a source of income for environmental projects and re-forestation.
S.
From: Dominican Republic
I agree that the process is cumbersome and costly, especially for what you get...the opportunity to continually pump money into the country, all the while, driving on substandard roads, watching the education system attempt to function without serious support and having to lock away a paper cup, for fear of it being stolen.
I can say that many in the bavaro region do not have a residency, due to the amount of requirements, the time factor ( for me 6 months of waiting) the fact that it is so confusing that you must hire a lawyer to do so, and all must be done in Santo Domingo.
Plus...hey....where is the enforcement....no enforcement....no concern....no need.
Written by: Bizc8, 5 Nov 2008 2:20 PM
From: United States
From previous posts, I'm gathering that a naturalized Dominican can't vote. Is that the case?
Written by: FelixRD, 5 Nov 2008 2:31 PM
From: United States
Around 2004, we were trying to get the residency for my wife and we had to quit after many many days going form one place to another and a good amount of money invested. At the time I was thinking that in DR they want that process to be more difficult than the residency process in USA. It was absurd.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
Texas Bill hits the old nail on the head " The reasons for having all the legal requirements fulfilled in Santo Domingo area many.
One of the main reasons is that the government doesn't trust any local government officials to be fair and honest in handling the numerous funds that would cross their desks.
It is just an example of the old system handed down from the early Spaniards who originally ran things here and that was the result of 800 years of Arab occupation with all it's corruptional methodologies.
Hell, read a bit of history and you'll catch on real fast.".......having lived in Spain and Latin America there is more than a grain of truth in the above statement
From: Dominican Republic, la Romana
FelixRD and others ..I am glad in some ways that others have experienced the same frustrations ,whether a lawyer is used or not, but sad that the DR does not follow the example of other countries who actively seek wealthy foreigners to settle or retire in their land ,I am sure that my own situation is quite normal in that I pay property tax on my home in la Romana and I have a gardener and a maid and a cook and I pay numerous other people and I actually want residency but I have to return to my country and somehow get a document from the police that I am ok , I have to go to the capital numerous times and I have other things to do and in fact the cost is well over US$8000 .
I also donate much money and teach english to poor children , gratis . This is not uncommon
If I had decided to go to an Malaysia or Thailand or even to France the formalities are very staight forward .
From: United States, New York City
Maybe so GC but whatever else they did those Arabs lifted the Iberians out of backward mud. Cordoba in their time > most any other city in the continent!
Anyway thats off topic. Would be nice for those of you who are foreign residents to have this issue resolved, but I'm sure you'd all agree there are bigger problems there for you to deal with, like electricity.
From: Dominican Republic, la Romana
Manhattanite, there are definitely bigger problems and i think many people in their iwn small way try to be a giver here especially to improve the education and living standards of the poor ..corruption is always the main obstacle to progress here and it can only be defeated by good education ..,.how can ministers in this small country be paid more than the US president ?? Electricity , clean water, health care and education should be priorities ahead of underground railways and an oversized army
Written by: willmo, 5 Nov 2008 5:44 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Why would anyone like to become a Dominican citizen? What is there? Corrupt government, widespread injustices to the poor, high unemployment, corrupt judges, lawless police force, a president that believes that he is a Prince, just traveling for free everywhere, at taxpayer's expenses? Showing off at any opportunity? Why would I live in a country like this? God bless us!!!!
From: United States
This "new" fact: Cubans amongst largest group seeking DR citizenship....Really defies all logic,
and surprises the dickens out of me. As a DR emigre to the U.S., most Cubans I have encountered in "America", hold so much contempt for us lowly Quisqueyanos, compatriots of such heroes as Maximo Gomez, and hundreds of others that fought ("many died') for the liberation of the Spanish dominance of Siboney.
These that are looking to become citizens in DR, must be mostly Cubanos de Cuba, fresh from 50 years of depravation, hunger, tyranny, and lies.
Viva Quisqueya!
Pero, cuidado con los chivatos infiltrados! G2 cuban intelligence, know 'a mean?
From: Iraq, 10 billion dollars a month for nothing
We won’t let a descendent needy of Haitians born in DR become a citizen but we’ll allow some Chino and 580 Cubans to become citizens. They can’t say it’s political, Cuba is better off then Haiti and in many ways better off then DR.
Written by: danny00, 5 Nov 2008 6:58 PM
From: United States
come on i live in miami... the only CUBANOS going thier are ex or current DRUG DEALERS.... at least most of them.... i hear them talking about it in miami.... tale this 1st hand.... just what the country NEEDS now... MORE DRUG DEALERS..... why do you think their down their?.... cant show the MONEY in the states.....sure if i have lots of money i would run to live in a country that figure out how to make ELEC.... cant drink the water, ect ect...... give me a break..... oh! they are sure buying up the condos in santo domingo.... their the only ones that have money to buy NOW....
Written by: danny00, 5 Nov 2008 7:01 PM
From: United States
im talking about cubans coming from miami not the island..... after they leave the island then they get in the drug trade....moist cubans i have spoken to say they are willing to give up 20 years of their life {if they get get caught selling drugs in the states}.....nice i like the way they think they should teach the young children in santo domingo this also.. good for the country....lol.....
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
these Cubans came directly from Cuba and need documents ie. residency to maintain their Cuban status and right of return .This is a safety valve for the Castro brothers and is part of a large emigration that includes Mexico and Spain among others . A Cuban after receiving his residency in the DR can continue to visit Cuba
Written by: abc200, 5 Nov 2008 7:32 PM
From: United Kingdom
I guess only USA drug dealers bother to get residence - there are enough of them. Perhaps also the CIA and other undesirables.
S.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
Manny I have my heart in Andalucia....the Moors were the greatest of cultures far in advance of anything in Europe at that time
Written by: abc200, 5 Nov 2008 7:37 PM
From: United Kingdom
From: United States
Haitians don't want our citizenship... the island is theirs... why would they need citizenship??
From: Dominican Republic
CF is correct! The Haitians hate the Dominican citizenship and way of life! The Haitians want DR to give them the Dominican Citizenship freely! Especially, the children of the Haitians born in DR! This data clearly indicates the Haitian think of the island as theirs! The JCE better not give away our citizenship to people who want to see us out of the island!
Written by: anthonyC, 6 Nov 2008 11:52 AM
From: United States
danny00,
You are an idiot.
All Cubans who go to the DR are Drug Dealers?
Stupid.
Written by: Rainman, 7 Nov 2008 10:39 PM
From: United States
Many people come to DR with hopes of having successful business then they realize that is a myth due to corruption and burocracia. And after loosing much of their money they end up leaving without ever finishing their citizenship process. As far as hatians they get such a great treatment there, no wonder only 18 of them decided to become citizens.
Written by: abc200, 7 Nov 2008 10:55 PM
From: United Kingdom
Could it not be something to do these people with having achieved little success in business in their home country and not having appropriate skills, money etc. It's little to do with defects in the DR; one of few countries where low budget start-ups by foreigners are allowed. They should try the bureacracy to open say a new restaurant, hotel or car repair business in say Miami.
S.
Written by: anthonyC, 7 Nov 2008 11:01 PM
From: United States
"They should try the bureacracy to open say a new restaurant, hotel or car repair business in say Miami."
Actually Business Start-ups in Miami-Dade County are pretty easy compared to most US cities. Licenses take a day.
Derm(If required) usually comes in a few days and works with the business owners.
Heck, In Florida you can register and start a corporation in 5 mins on-line.
But what would you know as you never have had any business experience like to Economic Savants Dread and Josie.
Written by: abc200, 7 Nov 2008 11:15 PM
From: United Kingdom
Certificate of Use and Occupancy (Excludes Home)
Declaration of Use (Excludes Home)
Legal Description of the property (Excludes Home)
Federal Employer Identification Number or Social Security Number
Proof of current Fictitious Name Registration from the State Division of Corporations, 850-487-6058 or www.sunbiz.org
Proof of Articles of Incorporation, 850-245-6052 or www.sunbiz.org
Other Requirements May Include:
Professions regulated by the Department of Business and Professional Regulation must submit an active state license, 850-487-1395.
Retail and Wholesale merchants must complete an Affidavit of Merchants Inventory disclosing the average value of inventory.
Restaurant owners must submit a current State License through the Department of Business and Professional Regulation 305-470-5680.
State License is required for professionals.
How often do I have to file Local Business Tax?
Local Business Taxes are filed for every year beginning October 1 and
Written by: abc200, 7 Nov 2008 11:27 PM
From: United Kingdom
and expiring on September 30 of the following year. Business Taxes not filed by October 1 of each year become delinquent and are subject to a delinquent penalty.
What is the Penalty for Operating without Filing?
The penalty for operating without a current Local Business Tax starts at $250 and can escalate to imprisonment and closure of business.
Do I Still Need to File Anything with Miami-Dade?
Miami-Dade County has its own tax requirements. For more information, contact:
Miami-Dade County Business Tax
140 West Flagler St., Room 1407
Miami, FL 33130
305-270-4949
Plus insurances,
http://www.ehow.com/how_4505711_g....ium=ssp&utm_campaign=yssp_artS.
Written by: abc200, 7 Nov 2008 11:30 PM
From: United Kingdom
Written by: abc200, 8 Nov 2008 9:14 AM
From: United Kingdom
Perhaps the US could start a 'bail-out' fund for its Citizens starting business here. Many seem to run out of cash like GM and other US companies. They are, after all, relieving the US government of the responsibity to pay benefits for unemployment or give them food stamps.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Run....-fumes-GM-could-apf-13509756.htmlThis would save them from 'running on fumes' or joining the ten million unemployed in the US.
Also save the US government a pile of $$$$$$$$$$$ and boost property prices here as more US citizens took advantage of the scheme. Dominican schools are cheaper than goverment run US schools - more savings. Their MacMansions - power hungry in places like Detroit could be bulldozed and the US would save in oil imports etc. US could assist with residence and many families could get by with a bail out of say 100 dollars a week. Children would learn Spanish and learn how to grow bananas, useful should they return to the US.
S.
S.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
Perhaps the wanker from hell could start a bailout fund instead of always sponging off the US as the UK is always doing since their empire collapsed ......Wanker remember your lend lease debt was forgiven and the money we gave you in the Marshall Plan you wasted on dumbass Labour Party schemes while France and Germany rebuilt.....Wanker stop trying to rewrite history to suit your whining weanie lefty greenie political loser stance
Written by: abc200, 8 Nov 2008 10:43 AM
From: United Kingdom
UK paid back lend-lease. Last payment was 2006. US gained much UK technology through reverese lend-lease.
Just truly trying to be helpful and save the US taxpayer money..... You should be so grateful and suggest schemes the US government might support - perhaps a 'not for profit' donkey sanctury.
Much better than GM. Much more useful than production of GM gas guzzlers.
They could wear donkeyoftheday shirts. And start donkeyoftheday.com.do.
http://www.cafepress.com/donkeyoftheday/5456137You move all over the place but not really.
S.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
" US gained much UK technology " wanker please stop making me laugh...the UK has not invented anything since the 1800s unless you count the beatles
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There a re many many foreigners living in the DR who contribute substantially to the economy and who would like to have a residency certificate if only the process was more simple
I suggest to give Dominican Citizenship for Free to All the foreigners who wants to take it in determined period.
If Dominican Republic continue with the same system in obtaining Residence, I dont see the reason why any Foreigner should have Residence at all.
Lawyers cost is around 800 dollars, and actualy the cost of the residence (with medical exam and taxes) is around 150 dollars.
Then, nobody speaks English (at least) or other languages, in the immigration.
Then, Foreigner have to wait Three Months to get Residence. And after its no good for nothing especially, you can not vote, you would still need a garantee for bank financing, buying leased car etc.
Commonly, foreigners dont make Dominican residence, as the process is long, cost a lot, you never know if the lawyer is actually going to finish it or not.
There should be a easy, one day process, where with a passport, and medical exam, you can get yuor ID in the same day (its a metter of printing speed)
More legitimate Foreigners that we have here will bring more money to D.R. ITs more convenient to open a Bank Account, or pay taxes with Cedula Dominicana then with passport.
This is a very friendly country, so the process of obtaining a reidence card should be more practical. For Example, in Punta Cana (Bavaro) foreigners can not get a Residence Card, but have to travel 250 km to Santo Domingo, and as you can not get a Papel de Buena Conducta here as well, you have to loose two days in Capital, or pay the lawyer, and also loose two days in Sto Dgo (capi capi)
Milosh Korach
(but they call me Milo)
One of the main reasons is that the government doesn't trust any local government officials to be fair and honest in handling the numerous funds that would cross their desks.
It is just an example of the old system handed down from the early spaniards who originally ran things here andthat was the result of 800 years of Arab occupation with all it's corruptional methodologies.
Hell, read a bit of history and you'll catch on real fast.
TB
S.
I can say that many in the bavaro region do not have a residency, due to the amount of requirements, the time factor ( for me 6 months of waiting) the fact that it is so confusing that you must hire a lawyer to do so, and all must be done in Santo Domingo.
Plus...hey....where is the enforcement....no enforcement....no concern....no need.
One of the main reasons is that the government doesn't trust any local government officials to be fair and honest in handling the numerous funds that would cross their desks.
It is just an example of the old system handed down from the early Spaniards who originally ran things here and that was the result of 800 years of Arab occupation with all it's corruptional methodologies.
Hell, read a bit of history and you'll catch on real fast.".......having lived in Spain and Latin America there is more than a grain of truth in the above statement
I also donate much money and teach english to poor children , gratis . This is not uncommon
If I had decided to go to an Malaysia or Thailand or even to France the formalities are very staight forward .
Anyway thats off topic. Would be nice for those of you who are foreign residents to have this issue resolved, but I'm sure you'd all agree there are bigger problems there for you to deal with, like electricity.
and surprises the dickens out of me. As a DR emigre to the U.S., most Cubans I have encountered in "America", hold so much contempt for us lowly Quisqueyanos, compatriots of such heroes as Maximo Gomez, and hundreds of others that fought ("many died') for the liberation of the Spanish dominance of Siboney.
These that are looking to become citizens in DR, must be mostly Cubanos de Cuba, fresh from 50 years of depravation, hunger, tyranny, and lies.
Viva Quisqueya!
Pero, cuidado con los chivatos infiltrados! G2 cuban intelligence, know 'a mean?
S.
http://www.eubusiness.com/European_Council/112196/?searchterm=None
S
Haitians don't want our citizenship... the island is theirs... why would they need citizenship??
You are an idiot.
All Cubans who go to the DR are Drug Dealers?
Stupid.
S.
Actually Business Start-ups in Miami-Dade County are pretty easy compared to most US cities. Licenses take a day.
Derm(If required) usually comes in a few days and works with the business owners.
Heck, In Florida you can register and start a corporation in 5 mins on-line.
But what would you know as you never have had any business experience like to Economic Savants Dread and Josie.
Declaration of Use (Excludes Home)
Legal Description of the property (Excludes Home)
Federal Employer Identification Number or Social Security Number
Proof of current Fictitious Name Registration from the State Division of Corporations, 850-487-6058 or www.sunbiz.org
Proof of Articles of Incorporation, 850-245-6052 or www.sunbiz.org
Other Requirements May Include:
Professions regulated by the Department of Business and Professional Regulation must submit an active state license, 850-487-1395.
Retail and Wholesale merchants must complete an Affidavit of Merchants Inventory disclosing the average value of inventory.
Restaurant owners must submit a current State License through the Department of Business and Professional Regulation 305-470-5680.
State License is required for professionals.
How often do I have to file Local Business Tax?
Local Business Taxes are filed for every year beginning October 1 and
What is the Penalty for Operating without Filing?
The penalty for operating without a current Local Business Tax starts at $250 and can escalate to imprisonment and closure of business.
Do I Still Need to File Anything with Miami-Dade?
Miami-Dade County has its own tax requirements. For more information, contact:
Miami-Dade County Business Tax
140 West Flagler St., Room 1407
Miami, FL 33130
305-270-4949
Plus insurances,
http://www.ehow.com/how_4505711_g....ium=ssp&utm_campaign=yssp_art
S.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4505711_g....ium=ssp&utm_campaign=yssp_art
S.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Run....-fumes-GM-could-apf-13509756.html
This would save them from 'running on fumes' or joining the ten million unemployed in the US.
Also save the US government a pile of $$$$$$$$$$$ and boost property prices here as more US citizens took advantage of the scheme. Dominican schools are cheaper than goverment run US schools - more savings. Their MacMansions - power hungry in places like Detroit could be bulldozed and the US would save in oil imports etc. US could assist with residence and many families could get by with a bail out of say 100 dollars a week. Children would learn Spanish and learn how to grow bananas, useful should they return to the US.
S.
S.
Just truly trying to be helpful and save the US taxpayer money..... You should be so grateful and suggest schemes the US government might support - perhaps a 'not for profit' donkey sanctury.
Much better than GM. Much more useful than production of GM gas guzzlers.
They could wear donkeyoftheday shirts. And start donkeyoftheday.com.do.
http://www.cafepress.com/donkeyoftheday/5456137
You move all over the place but not really.
S.