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Santiago de Chile.- President Michelle Bachelet has praised the progress made by the Dominican Judicial System, highlighting the country’s “leadership, visibility and commitment” in the fight against organized crime.

The Chilean leader shared this view with Dominican Attorney General Radhamés Jiménez Peña, during the first Ibero-American Summit for Public Prosecution Systems against Human Trafficking held in the Chilean capital Santiago.

Jiménez Peña thanked the Chilean government’s vote of confidence on behalf of his colleagues in the legal system and spoke in favor of the cooperative ties between the Dominican Republic Attorney General’s Office, the Chilean Prosecutor General’s Office and the Chilean Justice Ministry.

The AG was accompanied by Assistant Attorney General Frank Soto, who is also in charge of the Department against illegal trafficking of immigrants and human trafficking at the AG’s office, as well as by the director of the National Public Prosecution System School, Ramón Núñez.

Jiménez returned to the country on December 23rd after completing a work program that also included visits to Argentina and Paraguay.

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Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 29 Dec 2008 11:02 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
what was he smoking ?
Written by: JD_Dominguez, 29 Dec 2008 11:06 AM
From: United States, Reality Check
Wow, this President is crazy!

Progress in the legal system? What is he talking about Presidential pardons, Bani killings (led by RD Gov officials), partnerships with organized crime & RD officals in drug trafficking? Or maybe he is referring to border patrol corruption which allows Haitian kids to cross as drug mules.

I know for a fact that the DNCD Norte in Santiago and the local police are on the take with the Pichardo drug family in Santiago barrio of Los Platanitos (Ensanche Caonabo) near the Cibao Stadium on the side of the Children's Hospital. Drugs are moved in and re-distributed to other barrios and onto the PR via Choppo (aka Jose Annibal Lopez Pichardo).

This President is crazy!

Written by: WhySmitty This user is banned, 29 Dec 2008 11:09 AM
From: United States
The president of Chile must be drunk. She has praised DR legal system. A system that violates human rights every second. Give me a break Michelle Bachelet !

What about the rights of immigrants and the right of dark skin Dominicans?
Written by: gmiller261, 29 Dec 2008 11:19 AM
From: United States
Man... This president must be a Moron extraordinar !

They just let them out after they kick back money.

Another mental midget that has to pull her head out of her butt.
Written by: DominicanLady, 29 Dec 2008 11:29 AM
From: United States
I bet she has the hots for Leoner...... Margarita watchout!
Written by: cibaeño75, 29 Dec 2008 11:32 AM
From: United States, New York City
She must've been shown potemkin villages to come to such a conclusion....
Written by: Nemo69, 29 Dec 2008 11:56 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
She must have been skiing in Bani snow
Written by: josean, 29 Dec 2008 12:26 PM
From: United States
"what was he smoking ?"

The Blows she suffered to the head while in jail under the regime of Chauncey's idol the Nazi Pinochet, are showing their effect!
Written by: dreadlocks, 29 Dec 2008 1:15 PM
From: United States
it is apparent that the august president does not receive news releases fro the DR. had she seen the Sun Land ruling and the recent presidential pardons, maybe she would have chosen her words a little more judiciously. even though the pardons fall under the purview of the executive, it just points to the disdain for any semblance of legality here today. but, Chile must grow some good weed; this lady is flying really high.
Written by: Manhattanite, 29 Dec 2008 1:53 PM
From: United States
More likely this speaks to what kind of standard she sets for DR. Her condescending pat on the head to our judicial system must come from her conviction that her nation has a modern, "European" judicial system.
Written by: cibaeño75, 29 Dec 2008 2:22 PM
From: United States, New York City
"More likely this speaks to what kind of standard she sets for DR. Her condescending pat on the head to our judicial system must come from her conviction that her nation has a modern, "European" judicial system."

Very good point.
Written by: gatitapequena, 29 Dec 2008 2:27 PM
From: United States, Somewhere in the World
it's all about organized crime, Chile must be out of ideas to better their way of controling their organized crime, and what better model than the DR.
Written by: Username, 29 Dec 2008 2:32 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Great legal system, just like in Chile where they pardoned or refused to prosecute most of Pinochet's guys.
Written by: montesino, 29 Dec 2008 2:36 PM
From: United States
My goodness -- what came over Bachelet? Did she happen to take note of the recent pardons issued by the President? While I've never had overall high confidence in the Dominican political system, from an intellectual standpoint, I genuinely tried to give Leonel and this current administration the benefit of the doubt. These recent pardons, however, are inperdonable. I have lost all confidence in Leonel's ability to lead. Man! Sometimes it's exhausting being Dominican. It literally pains my heart to see such disregard for common decency, the rule of law, and really just a little respect for the general population. For the longest, I genuinely believed that Leonel was going to break the pattern and deliver a different kind of politics. No such luck -- it's just Hipolito under a different name.
Written by: cibaeño75, 29 Dec 2008 2:37 PM
From: United States, New York City
"Great legal system, just like in Chile where they pardoned or refused to prosecute most of Pinochet's guys."

Another good point. Maybe she's extolling DRs legal system because hers has been so inept at bringing the arch criminals still loose in that country to justice. Hell, doctors who have been linked to torture during Pinochet's regime are known to be practicing medicine out in the open with impunity in Santiago De Chile as I write this.
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 29 Dec 2008 2:48 PM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
ciby ...Pinochet was the best thing that ever happened to Chile......Allende hahahaha
Written by: cibaeño75, 29 Dec 2008 2:54 PM
From: United States, New York City
"ciby ...Pinochet was the best thing that ever happened to Chile....."

Goulet, how can you defend that barbarian? He was a murderer. He is beyond redemption as a historical figure.
Written by: dreadlocks, 29 Dec 2008 3:16 PM
From: United States
at least he was a free market disciple (thinks GC) that makes him, by definition, a good guy. Allende, on the other hand, was cursed by God, since he was a socialist. ah, monochrome....
Written by: cibaeño75, 29 Dec 2008 3:21 PM
From: United States, New York City
"at least he was a free market disciple (thinks GC) that makes him, by definition, a good guy. "

Even that image is BS. After the economic meltdown Chile suffered in the early 80s, precisely because of Pinochet's failed economic policies, Pinochet's government stepped in with bailouts and the Chilean state ended up owning cosiderably more assets under Pinochet than it ever had under Allende and that's a fact. Look it up Goulet.
Written by: WhySmitty This user is banned, 29 Dec 2008 3:23 PM
From: United States
Pinochet (Chile), Papa Doc (Haiti), Idi Amin (Africa/Uganda), Hitler (Germany), Trujillo (Dom. Rep.) are a bunch of sadistic-demonic- maniac-bloody-murderer dictators. They should all be rotten in hell.

Bush should also go to hell for killing more than 1 million innocent Iraqis.
Written by: WhySmitty This user is banned, 29 Dec 2008 3:31 PM
From: United States
The Free Market-Privatization-Globalization crap is nothing but a farce. The meltdown is happening right here in the U.S., the bastion of capitalism. in order for the world to maintain social order, leaders like Castro, Chavez, Aristide, etc...should take the reign.
Written by: Jander, 29 Dec 2008 3:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic
'Chily Schmily" who cares !

Presidential "pats on the back" good for LF's moral..
Written by: josean, 29 Dec 2008 4:14 PM
From: United States
The guest list at a dinner party in Chauncey's Villa:

Pinochet (Chile), Papa Doc (Haiti), Idi Amin (Africa/Uganda), Hitler (Germany), Trujillo (Dom. Rep.)
Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 4:37 PM
From: United States
Josie,

Pinochet was not a NAZI.
His poliicies were anti-socialist. Chavez is a NAZI. The Coward Allende was a NAZI.

Pinochet was the savior of Chile.
Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 4:41 PM
From: United States
"Written by: WhySmitty, 29 Dec 2008 3:23 PM
Pinochet (Chile), Papa Doc (Haiti), Idi Amin (Africa/Uganda), Hitler (Germany), Trujillo (Dom. Rep.) are a bunch of sadistic-demonic- maniac-bloody-murderer dictators. They should all be rotten in hell.
Bush should also go to hell for killing more than 1 million innocent Iraqis.
If Allende was so bad then Bachelet wouldn't be alive.
Hitler and Amin were LEFT-WING murderous Dictators. Allende was a Murderous MARXISTS along the lines of Chavez.

The 1 million figure has been widly discounted as majorly flawed.
Fewer the 800 "Innocent" Iraqis have died since the US intervention.
Written by: josean, 29 Dec 2008 4:48 PM
From: United States
"Antonia"

"Fewer the 800 "Innocent" Iraqis have died since the US intervention."

With a statement like this not only was Pinochet a Nazi you are one too!

Stop sniffing C16 cubanita!
Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 5:04 PM
From: United States
Josie and your pussycat

Approx 100,000 Iraqis casualties.

take away combatants, Terrorists and thsoe killed by other Iraqis 800 "Innocent" deaths is being generous.

Again. NAZIs were National SOCIALISTS!!!!!!!
Liberals are soooooooooo stupid they can't even insult correctly.
Written by: josean, 29 Dec 2008 5:12 PM
From: United States
Now antonia see what you have generated for you and Chauncey!

Written by: generoso, 29 Dec 2008 5:07 PM
From: United States, Arizona
devin11
Stop the welfare checks for the thieving cuban political exile groups now!!!!!!!!!!!
Right on devin11, right on. Touché.
Send all Cubans freeloaders and right wing gusano nazis back to Cuba where they belong, not mooching off the good will of the USA. We have had enough!
Written by: josean, 29 Dec 2008 5:58 PM
From: United States
"Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 4:37 PM
From: United States
Josie,

Pinochet was not a NAZI.
His poliicies were anti-socialist. Chavez is a NAZI. The Coward Allende was a NAZI.

Pinochet was the savior of Chile."

antonia,

If Pinochet was a "savior of Chile" why are his putrid remains buried in undisclosed location like Dick Cheney, another one of your Nazi heroes?

You would think the masses of "grateful Chileans" would demand a masouleum befitting this "great national hero," second only to Bernardo O'Higgins, in the middle of Santigo!
Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 6:32 PM
From: United States
Why?

Because scum sucking coomie symps would destroy the hallowed ground.

BTW the Great Dick Cheney is alive and well
Written by: josean, 29 Dec 2008 6:38 PM
From: United States
I thought so. Its the international communist conspiracy!

He may be alive, but he is not well thinking of the investgations that will begin after Jan. 20th!
Written by: cibaeño75, 29 Dec 2008 6:43 PM
From: United States, New York City
Mr. C I know you and I have locked horns before but I must ask you a question without any malice on my part toward you in asking. Please think about what you will answer before just giving me rhetoric. I want to know what you really think, not the line you're towing. There's no question that Pinochet's regime engaged in torture, carried out political assasinations on foreign soil (in Washington, even!), and was responsible for the dissapearance and/or deaths of at least 3000 individuals, human beings with families, people who were brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers. And that's just to name a few. My question to you is this: How can you sit there and defend the person that is responsible for such atrocities?
Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 6:46 PM
From: United States
Josie the Pussycat.

Sorry to burst your bubble. Put away the baby-oil and the towel.

Dick Cheney is a True Patriot!!!!!
Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 6:48 PM
From: United States
" My question to you is this: How can you sit there and defend the person that is responsible for such atrocities?"

Easy!!! It is all about the Numbers.

3000 enemy dead is better that the 100,000,000 killed by the Communists. If you have a love of freedom and any compassion then you will realize that Pinochet was a savior.
Written by: cibaeño75, 29 Dec 2008 7:07 PM
From: United States, New York City
You are one sick, twisted individual Mr. C. You actually condone murder and then claim the ability to see what ifs unfolded with millions dead as justification. You lack morals, empathy, and are delusional on top of that. You also lack knowledge. Not all who perished or suffered under Pinochet where commies and that's a fact.
Written by: WhySmitty This user is banned, 29 Dec 2008 7:08 PM
From: United States
AnthonyC,

Read these articles to see over a milion innocent Iraqis were killed.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L30488579.htm

http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=144&a=3566
Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 8:07 PM
From: United States
Ciby,

You are the one who is sick.
You condone the murder of millions yet condem those who prevented millions of more deaths.
Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 8:12 PM
From: United States
WhyS,

You are just another pawn.

That survey has been discredited.

Q.: How many people do you know that have been killed?

Iraqi Answer: Dozens and dozens.

Question for another person in the building: How many people do you know that have been killed.

Iraqi Answer: Hundreds!

Poll takers: Well they must be telling the truth so lets add it up!

Statistician: But that isn't a scientific methodology at all.

Poll Taker: Who cares? We have an agenda!
Written by: josean, 29 Dec 2008 8:14 PM
From: United States
This is an example of why right wing talk radio is so dangerous:

"Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 8:12 PM
From: United States
WhyS,

You are just another pawn.

That survey has been discredited.

Q.: How many people do you know that have been killed?

Iraqi Answer: Dozens and dozens.

Question for another person in the building: How many people do you know that have been killed.

Iraqi Answer: Hundreds!

Poll takers: Well they must be telling the truth so lets add it up!

Statistician: But that isn't a scientific methodology at all.

Poll Taker: Who cares? We have an agenda!"
Written by: josean, 29 Dec 2008 8:20 PM
From: United States
antonia,

Just for you:

http://p6.hostingprod.com/@ricard..../a_nazi_farewell_to_pinochet.html
Written by: josean, 29 Dec 2008 8:37 PM
From: United States
antonia,

So you have something to talk about at the Klan rally. Oh that's right you won' t be accept there either.

Anyway just enjoy it in your trailer home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-BagkqltLk
Written by: josean, 29 Dec 2008 8:53 PM
From: United States
antonia,

If you will please read this little bit of information on your hero:

http://www.laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=14094&ArticleId=321811
Written by: WhySmitty This user is banned, 29 Dec 2008 8:56 PM
From: United States
The Chilean president is very likely in love with Bush also
Bush lied to the world to go to war with Iraq. Bush killed more than 1 million innocent Iraqis. Bush kidnapped the democratically and constitutionally elected president of Haiti Jean-Bertarand Aristide. Bush didn't protect the Americans against 9/11 disaster when he had all the indication and information that it might happen. Bush didn't have a quick response to the Victims of hurricane Katrina. Bush has allowed the American economy to collapse because he lets his cronnies dupe the American public and the rest of the world. If I were to go on with Bush's misdeeds, it would take a year to finish. Bush's approval rating has been registered as low as 18 percent in some polls. Bush is the worst U.S. president ever.

Now God gives us OBAMA. The first black president of the U.S.

Now Bush can go to hell

Happy New Year
Written by: dreadlocks, 29 Dec 2008 9:13 PM
From: United States
poor anthonyc. how can anyone live in such an ignorant skin? my late, lamented Latin teacher always said; better to be thought a fool, than open one's mouth and remove all doubt. now Hitler was left wing? please, anthony, BOOKS! ARTICLES! ESSAYS! DOCUMENTS. jeezus , man, you embarrass me every time i read your idiocies. Communism is a far left ideology. nazism and fascism are right wing ideologies. the fact that there were some socialist elements in the early 1930s does not mean Hitler was one of them. if you do some reading, you will note that they were essentially purged. go and read Dr Lawrence Britt's 14 characteristics of fascism, which was not far removed from nazism in the Hitlerian iteration. i will list them here, and tell me how they are left wing
1)powerful, continuing symbolism, with flags (swastikas) everywhere.
2) ignoring human rights as "need for security".
3)scapegoats as unifying cause
4)supremacy of the military over national needs
5)rampant sexism and racism
Written by: dreadlocks, 29 Dec 2008 9:18 PM
From: United States
6)controlled mass media
7)religion and government intertwined
8)power of corporations over political system
9)obsession with national security
10)suppression of organised labor
11)disdain for artists and intellectuals, and higher education
12)obsession with crime and punishment
13)rampant cronyism and corruption in government
14)use of judiciary to rig elections.

sound familiar? that could be any right wing latin american country, or even the USA. sure as heck not a communist country, although some characteristics admittedly overlap.
Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 9:40 PM
From: United States
1)powerful, continuing symbolism, with flags (swastikas) everywhere.
Kind of like the "Greens"
2) ignoring human rights as "need for security".
A very left wing ideal....Gun Control is a perfect example
3)scapegoats as unifying cause
Like the Evil Corporations
4)supremacy of the military over national needs
Liberals want a police state
5)rampant sexism and racism
Affirmative action? Racial quotas?
6)controlled mass media
The Left have that locked up
Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 9:42 PM
From: United States
7)religion and government intertwined
Like the Reverand Jackson and Al Sharpton? Rev Wright?
8)power of corporations over political system
Not a Nazi Ideal. the advocated a Centralized Economy.
9)obsession with national security
Maybe that one.
10)suppression of organised labor
Not a NAZI Ideal.
11)disdain for artists and intellectuals, and higher education
Like the Liberals attitude for anyone who doesn't agree with them
12)obsession with crime and punishment
Another Liberal ideal.
13)rampant cronyism and corruption in government
Like Chicago and New Orleans?
14)use of judiciary to rig elections.
Minnesota anyone?

Your guys characteristics of Facism is pretty much an indictment of Liberalism. Then again they have always been Facists who believe in the importance of the state over the Individual.

Don't you hate me? My Logic trumps your misguided idealism!
Written by: dreadlocks, 29 Dec 2008 10:00 PM
From: United States
you are such an ass! how do Rev Wright and Al Sharpton figure into religious admixture in governance? are you high? i am speaking of the rigging of the 2000 election by the Florida Supreme court. and i am talking of all the texas buttwipes that Bush elected, such as Brownie, who screwed up the Katrina situation, the dickweed attorney general, and all the others. just in case you have been under a rock these days, the right wing is really against corporations these days; heck, they oppose all the bailouts. when you say that crime and punishment are liberal ideals, who opposes the death penalty? affirmative action and racial quotas are the antidote to racism and sexism, you poor lunatic. gun ownership is NOT a human right; it is a privelege, if you can conceptualise the difference. you have the intellectual firepower of a 5 year old, and each day you get dumber.
Written by: baldoria23, 29 Dec 2008 10:01 PM
From: United States, Washington, D.C.
Chic@s,

Great news, just came across a wonderful group in Facebook called "Dominican@s Democraticos"

If you'd like to become a member of the group, please do so. THis could be a wonderful way to coordinate action and share ideas, in addition to Dominican Today.

CHeers,
Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 10:29 PM
From: United States
I am soooooooo sick and tired of the Left bringing up Florida 2000.

Every Stinking Recount done had Bush Winning. There was never any vote count that had Al Gore winning.

None
ZIP
ZILCH
NADA

Katrina was Naging Nagin's Fault 100% FEMA did a Great job on something that wasn't part of their Job Description, FEMA was not a 1st responder.

Afirmative Action is Racism. Anything that considers a person's race in regards to hiring or school acceptance is RACISM!!!! THAT CANNOT BE ARGUED.

GUN OWNERSHIP IS A RIGHT. I have the right to defend myself as I see fit and no liberal Jerk WAD will ever be able to take that away from me. Don't believe me? Come and try to take my guns.

Liberals are always involved in crime and punishment. Conservatives have no problem Commit a crime. You get punished.
Liberals always are trying to use crime as a reason for their Forced indoctrinating Social Engineering!

These statements are 100% Factual. They cannot be argued.
Written by: yumnuk3, 29 Dec 2008 10:41 PM
From: United States
Anthony The nurse is calling you it's time for your medication. LOL.
Written by: josean, 29 Dec 2008 10:47 PM
From: United States
antonia,

That's quit enough now!

It's time for you to practice your goose step, and if your good you can watch Birth of a Nation again tonight!
Written by: ndelvalle, 29 Dec 2008 10:51 PM
From: Canada
Well, look who's judging. He who praises the Dominican legal system do not have any idea of the amount of people who have ben jailed and spent and spending time without a trial. I think Chile is mocking the Dominican Legal system instead of praising it. http://nicolasdelvalle.wordpress.com/
Written by: anthonyC, 29 Dec 2008 10:58 PM
From: United States
{{{{{YAWN}}}}}
Josie and Yucknutz are so predictable. Can't dispute my logic so they resort to childish insults.

Soooooooooooooo Boring.
Written by: yumnuk3, 29 Dec 2008 11:08 PM
From: United States
You logical. Please you're cracking me up

Your so brain washed.LOL.
Written by: josean, 29 Dec 2008 11:18 PM
From: United States
"Josie and Yucknutz are so predictable. Can't dispute my logic so they resort to childish insults."

You really believe your an adult?
Written by: gatitapequena, 29 Dec 2008 11:19 PM
From: United States, Somewhere in the World
did i hear cracked, I got my frying pan ready get them eggs in hear so i can fry them up
Written by: antonioj, 29 Dec 2008 11:22 PM
From: Canada, home safe
That is what crack does to your brain, maybe she thinks she was in costa-rica.
Written by: antonioj, 29 Dec 2008 11:25 PM
From: Canada, home safe
Guatita is back, cassada and muy feliz congrat, sorry gentlemen stop dreaming (Yumnuk3, Generoso and thre crews)
Written by: antonioj, 29 Dec 2008 11:42 PM
From: Canada, home safe
AnthonyC you are an IDIOT. Let's see if I have 2 options to believe Antonyc word or Dread the answer is so easy, I will NOT pick you anthonyC. Please do some research before embarrassing yourself in public, some people will say anything, just to appear intelligent

Nearly all of Hitler's beliefs placed him on the far extreme right... the idea that he was a leftist is an unfounded myth an itself or a misnomer because of his party name in sort.

here's a link below have some fun Mr GOP

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm

AnthonyC must have failed history of world war II and politic 101 or fall asleep in class
Written by: yumnuk3, 30 Dec 2008 12:13 AM
From: United States
AnthonyC 10 Commandments

1. AnthonyC wants dirty air.
2. AnthonyC wants to melt the polar ice caps and watch the Caribbean fall into the Ocean.
3. AnthonyC wants automobiles that only get three miles to the gallon.
4. AnthonyC wants to burn up all the oil, all the coal, and all the trees. The sooner we use up our natural resources the better.
5. AnthonyC wants prescription drugs as expensive as possible, and he wants to make sure poor people can’t get them.
6. AnthonyC wants more mayhem at the hands of stupid gun owners. Imagine Plaxico Burress
7. AnthonyC wants to outlaw abortion so more unwanted pregnancies result in the mother’s death by coat hanger in back alleys.
8. AnthonyC wants lower taxes to hamper all the good things government does for us.
9. AnthonyC wants be homophobic every chance he gets.
10.AnthonyC wants Wal-Mart to take over the world because one great capitalist success demonstrates the superiority of our form of governmen
Written by: dreadlocks, 30 Dec 2008 12:41 AM
From: United States
you guys are wasting precious effort and time arguing with a guy who dropped out of kindergarten. anthonyc is a complete waste of a debate, because he is ignorant to the point of embarrassment. to assert that the nazis were not anti-trade union is beyond the pale, when , in 1933, Hitler ordered Dr Robert Ley to virtually disband all independent trade unions. the guy knows nothing, and is proud of it.
Written by: yumnuk3, 30 Dec 2008 12:47 AM
From: United States
Dread, it's individuals like him that make good conservatives look bad.
Written by: abc200, 30 Dec 2008 12:56 AM
From: United Kingdom
Conservatives are bad ........ totally bad...... criminals to a one!
S.
Written by: yumnuk3, 30 Dec 2008 1:01 AM
From: United States
abc200,

You're wrong. there are a lot of good conservatives out there.
Written by: cibaeño75, 30 Dec 2008 10:14 AM
From: United States, New York City
"Ciby,

You are the one who is sick.
You condone the murder of millions yet condem those who prevented millions of more deaths."

Mr. C I challenge you to produce a single post I've made that can even be remotely contrued as condoning murder. You'll find no such thing. As I've already noted you're delusional.
Written by: Manhattanite, 30 Dec 2008 12:10 PM
From: United States
dread is right it is a stretch to call that guy a conservative. He is clearly a know-nothing, which is an actual US political tradition (using that word loosely) with a long history.
Written by: dreadlocks, 30 Dec 2008 12:16 PM
From: United States
manhattanite, how can you get into a rational discussion with a man who opines that gun ownership is a human right? or that the nazis were not against trade unions? nazism had many faces, and many differing approaches, but, in the Hitlerian iteration, trade unions were unwelcome, and generally squashed
Written by: anthonyC, 30 Dec 2008 12:24 PM
From: United States
Again Dread and his wussy lefty friends use selective history.

The NAZIs started out as a Trade union!!!!!! They were against communist led Trade Unions.

Of course Gun Ownership is a right. I have every right to defend myself as I see fit.
Nobody. Not you. Not Hillary and especially not OBAMA can stop me.

I love posting here. Exposing Hypocracy among the left is one of my favorite hobbies. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
Written by: anthonyC, 30 Dec 2008 12:29 PM
From: United States
"Mr. C I challenge you to produce a single post I've made that can even be remotely contrued as condoning murder. You'll find no such thing. As I've already noted you're delusional. "

Ciby,
That is easy.
You wrote:
""and was responsible for the dissapearance and/or deaths of at least 3000 individuals, human beings with families, people who were brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers. And that's just to name a few. My question to you is this: How can you sit there and defend the person that is responsible for such atrocities?

Any codemnation of the Heroic Pinochet is condoning Communist murder.

Next!
Written by: josean, 30 Dec 2008 12:57 PM
From: United States
Now you guys know why they had a revolution in Cuba, unfortunately we got the placentas!
Written by: dreadlocks, 30 Dec 2008 1:06 PM
From: United States
anthonyc, i cannot be bothered to argue with you, because you wear ignorance as a badge of honor..the only mercy is that you are not in cuba, because you would have set that country back 100 years. you also have an absolute right to arriving at your destination, but a drivers' license is not a human right; it is a privelege. then again, why do i argue with an ass who does not understand the distinction between the two.
Written by: cibaeño75, 30 Dec 2008 1:30 PM
From: United States, New York City

"Any codemnation of the Heroic Pinochet is condoning Communist murder.

Next!"

Usted es un burro...translation: you're an ass. Now I know what the "C" stands for. It stands for "caricature".

Written by: anthonyC, 30 Dec 2008 1:44 PM
From: United States
Dread,

Nice try but Bad anology.
A driver's license gives one permission to use the Public Roadways.

Anyone can drive a car on their own private property without a driver's license.

I can and do have firearms on my property and on my person. No Government or Person can deny me of the act.

Try again.
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 30 Dec 2008 1:51 PM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Viva Franco Viva Espana
Written by: cibaeño75, 30 Dec 2008 2:01 PM
From: United States, New York City
"Viva Franco Viva Espana"

Little franco. Guy was like 5'3". I have a freind named shirley bigger than that. On top of that his high pitched voice and his penchant for elaborate uniforms made him come across as a cartoon. The Spaniards where the only ones not laughing.
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 30 Dec 2008 2:11 PM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
he was a giant ciby ....I moved to Spain shortly after his death with the built in attitude about the Facist this and the Facist that and left enlightened by his incorruptibility and how he had held Spain together by the force of his will ...Without him Spain would be like the Balkans many different countries and little direction....He was a little guy like Napoleon with huge jumbo cojones....Now it is fashionable for all the lefty whining weanies to kick him as well ...But they love their heros nutty hugo and Fidel
Written by: yumnuk3, 30 Dec 2008 2:15 PM
From: United States
AnthonyC,

Well, they do say opposites attact...so I sincerely hope you meet somebody who is attractive, honest, intelligent, and cultured. LOL.
Written by: josean, 30 Dec 2008 2:20 PM
From: United States
Fidel seguro a Franco dale por el C*lo!

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/16/europe/spain.php
Written by: cibaeño75, 30 Dec 2008 2:21 PM
From: United States, New York City
Listen goulet, the only reason why spain has a semblance of a modern society today is because she finally wisened up and embraced Europe as opposed to what she has done for most of her history. It was Spain's integration with the rest of Europe that brought about her current reality and it would've happened with or without franco. If anything franco slowed the process down cosiderably. Spain is like the moon shining off the light that is the European sun and nothing more. Latin America's backwardness is Spain's true reflection of herself.
Written by: josean, 30 Dec 2008 2:23 PM
From: United States
Brilliant !!!!!!!! cibaeño75, brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


"Latin America's backwardness is Spain's true reflection of herself."
Written by: anthonyC, 30 Dec 2008 2:28 PM
From: United States
Josie,

Stop being so damn Dominican by blaming somebody else for you and your countries shortcommings.
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 30 Dec 2008 2:32 PM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me

"Latin America's backwardness is Spain's true reflection of herself.".....I have said this many times ciby but that was the Spain of Carlos the 3rd etc....... Franco was Spains Cromwell and he personally oversaw the education and return of Juan Carlos to Spain's throne and democracy for its citizens...Yes LA is trapped in the bad habits of Spains colonial history but Spain per se has overcome its past and is a great country ....Let us hope it can help LA by example
Written by: cibaeño75, 30 Dec 2008 2:32 PM
From: United States, New York City
"Stop being so damn Dominican by blaming somebody else for you and your countries shortcommings."

You know you love coming on here and insulting my people. I wonder if you would dare speak in such a way to a Dominican in his physical presence. I doubt that very much, though. The C stands for coward.
Written by: yumnuk3, 30 Dec 2008 2:36 PM
From: United States
anthonyC,

You are a complete loser with no sense of self-worth who has nothing better to do than elevate his shameful little reason for existence by denigrating others.
Written by: cibaeño75, 30 Dec 2008 2:44 PM
From: United States, New York City
"Yes LA is trapped in the bad habits of Spains colonial history but Spain per se has overcome its past and is a great country "

Indeed Spain has overcome her past but its because of the very reason I cited, not because of some supposed inherit greatness that you seem to be alluding to.
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 30 Dec 2008 2:59 PM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
you are blinded by your hate of your motherland to understand the complexities of the Spanish historical personality ciby ....Viva Franco Viva Espana
Written by: cibaeño75, 30 Dec 2008 3:04 PM
From: United States, New York City
"you are blinded by your hate of your motherland to understand the complexities of the Spanish historical personality ciby ...."

I understand Spain's historical complexities very well goulet....you assume too much.
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 30 Dec 2008 3:18 PM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
ciby you are to personally and emotionally involved and besides you still are out there on the grassy knoll with a the lefty conspiracy types I dont think it makes a good mix for clear thinking ciby maybe when you get over it and get a little older and wiser ....until then see you in front of the DR embassy with your sign " Down With The Tyrants "
Written by: cibaeño75, 30 Dec 2008 3:29 PM
From: United States, New York City
"ciby you are to personally and emotionally involved and besides you still are out there on the grassy knoll with a the lefty conspiracy types I dont think it makes a good mix for clear thinking ciby maybe when you get over it and get a little older and wiser ...."

That's your personal opinion. I still stand by my hypothesis as to why Spain is what it is today. Can you tell me with absolute honesty that what I've said about Spain has no basis in reality?
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 30 Dec 2008 3:32 PM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
zip zero nada
Written by: cibaeño75, 30 Dec 2008 3:43 PM
From: United States, New York City
"zip zero nada"

Riddle me this, then, batman:Do you honestly think Spain would be where she is today if she were NOT a member of the European Union? Exactly.
Written by: WhySmitty This user is banned, 30 Dec 2008 4:00 PM
From: United States
Why do Domincans want to go back to slavery or colonization? Aren't you grateful that Haitians make you taste and enjoy freedom?
Written by: cibaeño75, 30 Dec 2008 4:03 PM
From: United States, New York City
"Why do Domincans want to go back to slavery or colonization? Aren't you grateful that Haitians make you taste and enjoy freedom?"

How, pray tell, have haitians made us taste freedom? This I have to hear.
Written by: anthonyC, 30 Dec 2008 4:38 PM
From: United States
To all Domincans who blame their shortcoming on others,

We are not buying it!!!!!


And to all those who think I wouldn't say that to their face feel free to contact me and we can make arrangements.
Written by: dreadlocks, 30 Dec 2008 4:52 PM
From: United States
anthonyc, i hardly believe that anyone on this forum would want to endure the displeasure of meeting you face to face. your idiocy and ignorance are both so malignant, there is a more than even chance they might be contagious. i have met kindergarten children who are more lucid and logical than you are. instead of doing independent research, and trying to educate yourself, you have acquired a minimalist education by listening to talk radio, which is populated by equally ignorant persons such as yourself. sadly, you have not embraced the dictum "he who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool; shun him".that, dear misguided one, is why nobody would seek to enter into your company. not even the process of osmosis has availed you of some knowledge from this board. i guess your quest in life is to die an imbecile.
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 30 Dec 2008 5:20 PM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
ciby you are a poor student of history ...Franco was a force in Spain that kept it from disintegrating there are so many different cultures at work and at odds there is only the Balkans to compare....maybe Josef Broz......anyway think this way like Franco leaving the scene and Spain re entering the European family the same will be true when Fidel is gone ...and Cuba will again have a great future
Written by: josean, 30 Dec 2008 5:30 PM
From: United States
dread,

This is a pure GEM:

"not even the process of osmosis has availed you of some knowledge from this board. i guess your quest in life is to die an imbecile."
Written by: anthonyC, 30 Dec 2008 5:51 PM
From: United States
Dreaddy girl,

You are such a wussy liberal.

Can't counter my facts so you resort to insults.

Come back when you grow a pair......that is if your boyfriend doesn't have them in his pocket.
Written by: josean, 30 Dec 2008 5:56 PM
From: United States
dred,

antonia has proven your point!
Written by: dreadlocks, 30 Dec 2008 5:58 PM
From: United States
i will make you a square deal, Dr anthonyc. i promise to grow a pair if you promise to grow a brain. by the way, if you are such a rough and tumble tough guy, what are you doing complaining about cuba from the relative safety of the USA? should you not man up and go to Cuba and get medieval with the Castro brothers and their ilk? or do we have to wait until you grow a pair?
Written by: josean, 30 Dec 2008 6:05 PM
From: United States
anotnia is part of that eunuch community called el Exilio Cubano!
Written by: Lautaro, 30 Dec 2008 6:17 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
To wait for him to grow a brain is the same as waiting for a snowfall to happen on the Caribbean, dread. Heck, we should write to Santa Claus to see if he would make us the favor of getting one for him, although a belated gift at that.
Written by: anthonyC, 30 Dec 2008 6:19 PM
From: United States
1st I am not an Exile

2nd Who said i haven't done anything?

3rd. Keep insulting and name calling. It only proves my point.
Written by: josean, 30 Dec 2008 6:28 PM
From: United States
"2nd Who said i haven't done anything?"

Going to Mas Canosa's funeral and to an Elian Gonzalez rally doesn't count!
Written by: dreadlocks, 30 Dec 2008 6:29 PM
From: United States
and just what is this point of yours?
Written by: yumnuk3, 30 Dec 2008 6:30 PM
From: United States
AnthonyC,

Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?
Written by: josean, 30 Dec 2008 6:39 PM
From: United States
Written by: yumnuk3, 30 Dec 2008 6:30 PM
From: United States, New York City
AnthonyC,

Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?

What makes you think he stopped?
Written by: jacirez This user is banned, 30 Dec 2008 6:51 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
"...Santiago de Chile.- President Michelle Bachelet has praised the progress made by the Dominican Judicial System, highlighting the country’s “leadership, visibility and commitment” in the fight against organized crime..."
Augusto Pinochet & Trujillo/Balaguer must be laughing their asses off in their grave right now...
Written by: yumnuk3, 30 Dec 2008 6:52 PM
From: United States
Josean, Excellent observation on your behalf
Written by: WhySmitty This user is banned, 30 Dec 2008 7:43 PM
From: United States
Michelle Bachelet is a Joke. She belongs to a circus.
Written by: jacirez This user is banned, 30 Dec 2008 7:44 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
WhySmitty,
Back to your Cage!!!
Written by: Penasuazo75, 30 Dec 2008 9:41 PM
From: United States, Bronx NY
That is so funny how can she praise our legal system when the DR Pres. is giving pardons to criminals; drug crisis is very serious and the violence on the streets are happening more and more.
I understand that crime happens everywhere in the world, but most countries enforce there laws; not DR if you have $ anyone can get away with mostly anything.
Written by: cibaeño75, 31 Dec 2008 11:23 AM
From: United States, New York City
"And to all those who think I wouldn't say that to their face feel free to contact me and we can make arrangements."

Antillano75@aol.com
Feel free to drop me a line and I'll meet you anywhere within the city of New York. Vamos a ver si en tu casa fabricaron hombres.

Written by: cibaeño75, 31 Dec 2008 11:28 AM
From: United States, New York City
"ciby you are a poor student of history ..."

Goulet, the respected historical scholar, has spoken...
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 31 Dec 2008 11:44 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
thank you ciby for your kind words from Staten Island ...I have it on good authority they will be relocating the 18 Quirinos for the witness protection program in your neighborhood ....prepare the welcome wagon
Written by: cibaeño75, 31 Dec 2008 11:46 AM
From: United States, New York City
"thank you ciby for your kind words from Staten Island ...I have it on good authority they will be relocating the 18 Quirinos for the witness protection program in your neighborhood ....prepare the welcome wagon"

My wife is baking cookies as I write this,
Written by: gouletcolonial This user is banned, 31 Dec 2008 11:47 AM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
very funny !
Written by: LostForever This user is banned, 2 Jan 2009 9:12 PM
From: United States
My Japanese girlfriend is shaving my head as I write this. Happy New Year to all.
Written by: LostForever This user is banned, 2 Jan 2009 9:12 PM
From: United States
Happy New Year
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