SANTO DOMINGO.- Police chief Rafael Guzmán Sunday said civilians who carry guns become the targets of thugs, and affirmed that since the strict policy to disarm criminals began the thefts of weapons from civilians has increased.
He said it’s concerning that criminals are using those guns stolen from civilians, most of them killed during holdups, noting that from eight arms stolen in one month, the number rose to 34, although the current figure is 24.
The police chief also justified the Interior and Police Ministry’s resolution to ban carrying guns during December, aimed at reducing crime.
Interviewed on the "Finjus" program on CDN, Guzmán asked the population to become aware of what it means to carry a gun and the risk of having them in visible places.
From: United States, Reality Check
This is just politics. They only want to disarm & scare law abiding citizens! There is no real concern by police to do their job. The police jefe asked:
"the population to become aware of what it means to carry a gun and the risk of having them in visible places".
WHY ARE POLICE SEARCHING ALL VEHICLES & CONFISCATING HIDDEN ARMS, KNIVES & GENERIC WEAPONS FROM LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS WHEN THEY WERE NOT VISIBLE THUS REQUIRING A SEARCH?
BUT... when there are micro-trafficking drug dealers who work with the RD Gov and its "SYSTEM" to move drugs to the US and gain extraordinary wealth THEN all is okay for gangsters to carry ILLEGAL arms!
There is a Tiguere in my barrio of Los Platanitos (Ensanche Caonabo) in Santiago who goes by the street name of Choppo (a convicted drug trafficker) who's real name is Jose Annibal Lopez Pichardo who owns an illegal gun and even shot an unarmed teenager at point blank range at the beginning of this year. The police were NO SHOWS!
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Photo Caption ...." Trust us we are here to help you "
Written by: generoso, 8 Dec 2008 2:16 PM
From: United States, DR
What about the military and police carrying weapons visibly they are not targets too?
These empty arguments to TRY to disarm the law abiding citizens that need to have weapons for their business and personal protection will not stand and are repudiated by all the population with two inches of space in their forehead.
Please General Guzman, with all due respect we are not stupid.
Written by: brootto, 8 Dec 2008 2:19 PM
From: United States, South West Florida
yet the mass do nothing and it will continue to do anything with it citizens
Written by: zak325, 8 Dec 2008 4:03 PM
From: United States
In many cases, the police have a good idea who the real crimminals are, especialy gangs that sell drugs, steal cars and kidnap, yet I have not heard of any police operation to destroy these gangs. Getting guns out of the hands of criminals might be a good way of reassuring the population that they (the police) are serious about fighting crime.
Written by: brootto, 8 Dec 2008 4:08 PM
From: United States, South West Florida
police do not dare deal with does individuals those are they family members and friends. keep that in mind.
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
This is because those that carry fire arms have no training and they carry them in the open for all to see. So yes thy become targets, but no the government should not take away fire arms caring.
The next step is to disarm the population entirely,
Written by: juliony, 8 Dec 2008 7:48 PM
From: United States, New YOrk
"Podran mandar la infanteria, la fuerza aerea o la marina de guerra, y yo seguire a caballo"
From: Dominican Republic, Miami
It might just be me, but this by far the most idiotic, senseless, ignorante, just plain most B*llsh** law that our great goverment has sanctioned....Can someone tell me why the dominican people are allowing themselves to be disarmed and left as sitting ducks for the thugs. Ever since i read of this new law i have been disccussted. It's true alot of peolpe owning guns end up getting robbed and killed by thier own weapons or having a weapon can make u a target, but serously dont take away are citizens fitting chance to protect themselves........And no guns during December when every hood is looking for a good christmas...you fu.ing retarted to think that disarming our citizens is going to help in any other way but by handing them to the wolvez
Written by: mrios, 8 Dec 2008 9:47 PM
From: United States
Sad indeed,
Mostly all criminals study and even stalk there victims. If you own a GUN are you ready to use Deadly force, Just think of all the crime that has been commented with stolen guns. Here in California [ Compton, California ] we just had a yearly GUN turn IN, with no questions asked....RIGHT all Guns were checked to make sure they were stolen or used in a crime, figure that. Each person who turned in a WORKING NON WORKING NON-USED IN A CRIME GUN was given a Get this, $100.00 gift certificate, most if not all asked for Grocery / food certificates. Not one mention was made of the total Gun related Crime for that week-end in Compton California which DID NOT DROP at all. The real sad part is since all GUNS turned in were registered and from hard working Law Abiding Citizens / Family's THE REAL QUESTION IS who will protect these Fire armless defenseless Family's....At least they'll have food to eat, I mean something the Criminals will use to target there victims anyway.
Written by: mrios, 9 Dec 2008 9:37 AM
From: United States
Heres some tips that would help to avoid being a victim.
If your a gun owner, is your Wife and older Children proficient in it's USE and SAFETY.
As a Family make up secret words meaning different Dangers.
Always be aware of your surroundings.
Never travel alone.
Avoid talking to total strangers or neighbors about your person information.
Never use the same route to and from work.
Always look out for strangers hanging around you home, work place etc..etc..
Friends are the ones who would probably will be connected in some way to you being a victim.
Avoid flashy clothes and material items such as Jewelery.
Never carry large sums of cash.
Be careful of surprise stranger visits to your home.
Get to know and share information with your neighbors.
I know this goes against Dominican custom and way of life.
MEANWHILE RELAX, A MANS HOME IS HIS CASTLE.
More on the way.....
Written by: anthonyC, 9 Dec 2008 9:56 AM
From: United States
mrios,
Did you live in Beruit?
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
or Baghdad maybe ?
Written by: mrios, 9 Dec 2008 11:22 AM
From: United States
Continue....
There mainly 2 types of Criminals, career criminal who plots and plans and are the experts, then there the opportunist who jumps at a the first chance and are sloppy, most get discovered and get caught.
Most criminals can't look you in the eyes [ to look into a Mans eyes is to look into their hearts ].
Most criminals work in groups and use modern day technology to their advantage, like cell phones to communicate to fellow thieves.
If you fell your being set up, kindly say CAN I HELP, 9 times one of 10 they'll leave you alone.
Criminals hate noise and attention....A whistle is dandy, don't be surprised people around either have been a victim of crime in the past or are fed up with crime and are always willing to assist .
Carry only I.D and small amounts of cash only, separate your money and put small amounts in each pocket.
Always tell close Friends and Family members where you are going and at what time you'll be expected to return.
MORE TO COM
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Compton ...worse than Beirut or Baghdad
Written by: mrios, 9 Dec 2008 11:38 AM
From: United States
Continue
If when traveling or shopping and you notice a stranger 2 or more times, you maybe being set up.
Never park in dark lonely streets.
Always stay in well lighted Streets and away from tourist hot spots, criminals love these areas.
Be careful of those looney toones on motorcycles their known for purse, bag, cell phone, camera, jewelry grabs.
Most thieves, pick pockets, Robbers look, choose and easy targets, don't be one.
When possible use a nice walking stick, they may come in handy some day.
I knew some one in Santo Domingo who wired a car alarm with 12 volt battery charged be solar with wireless entry to his house
If you would like more info. I'll be more then happy to post....
REFUSE TO BE A CRIME VICTIM...
Written by: anthonyC, 9 Dec 2008 11:56 AM
From: United States
"Written by: gouletcolonial, 9 Dec 2008 11:38 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Zona Colonial Casa Cordon
Compton ...worse than Beirut or Baghdad"
Actually the murder Capital of the world, Worse than Bagdad, Beruit, Compton or even Detroit?
Caracas!!!! Way to go Hugo!!!!
Written by: mrios, 9 Dec 2008 4:51 PM
From: United States
AnthonyC,
Right again. Life is cheap, My Cousin told me of a story of his friend and his Wife while on vacation in Caracas who were stopped on a lonely Highway carjacked, robbed, stripped of there clothes and left on the highway stark naked. Don't know all the details but I'm sure a little common sense, preventive measures, and little old 6th sense could have maybe prevented that incident. In the DR why even have Police in nice clean pressed uniforms if they won't do there jobs to Protect Life, Property and the innocent under the Law. Sounds like the DR needs a CRIMINAL GANG UNIT. To this day I still live by those rules of self preservation....NOTHING ON GODS GREEN EARTH IS WORTH YOUR LIFE, TAKE EXTREME CAUTION.
GOD PROTECTS THOSE, WHO PROTECT THEM SELVES
Written by: anthonyC, 9 Dec 2008 5:16 PM
From: United States
"NOTHING ON GODS GREEN EARTH IS WORTH YOUR LIFE"
I can think of lots of things.
Written by: mrios, 9 Dec 2008 5:35 PM
From: United States
AnothnyC,
I think you know what I mean, I rather die trying to protect my Family and my fellow man, I just didn't want to sound like a maniac or one who promotes Violence. One should see me on the shooting Range......One dead aim shot, followed by 2 more rapped aimed shots up to 30 feet. Take care and God Bless..
Written by: generoso, 9 Dec 2008 7:30 PM
From: United States, DR
mrios
Really, are you that good?
I can put a hole in a bottle cap at 50 feet and when it bounces up, shoot it again.
That's one handed of course, two handed is another story.
Written by: mrios, 9 Dec 2008 8:07 PM
From: United States
Generoso,
I'm not one to brag but damn since your that good of a shot....But you failed to mention the caliber, make, model and load in your Firearm of choice, but thats alright, if your that good I'll like to challenge you to a shooting match, we can also try a short quarter combat course, or my personal favor et long distance shooting engaging targets up to 200 yds and beyond on the target range of course. As a Firearm collector and trainer I would love the chance to share my deadly skills, heck I'll even supply the firearms and ammo. It's fun and easy. My problem is every time I shot a hole threw something center mass in the past it never bounced back for a second shot that defies the Law of physics, you must be a trick shot and work for the Circus, right. Hope to hear from you a.s.a.p Brother.
Written by: anthonyC, 9 Dec 2008 8:14 PM
From: United States
"2 more rapped"
Right, Sure!
You must hang around the range a lot.
BTW the term is "Tapped"
Have fun with your Daisy.
Written by: mrios, 9 Dec 2008 8:32 PM
From: United States
AnthonyC,
A daisy, I had one as a 9 year old, you'll be surprised how I have grown and developed in the last 4 decades to bigger and much better things. Please email Dominican today.com and they will forward your home email to me.
In fact I'll email Dominican Today.com and give them my permission.
Written by: anthonyC, 9 Dec 2008 9:16 PM
From: United States
So you moved up to a .22?
Daisy was a BB gun for girls......real men(boys) had Crossmans
Written by: generoso, 9 Dec 2008 10:54 PM
From: United States, DR
mrios
I prefer a Sig Sauer 9mm because it has less recoil than a .40 caliber and more accurate.
Equinox (night and day) is optimal because the Sig armorers go through them carefully.
Load is 115 gr.works fine with me or sub-sonic 147 gr. using a threaded barrel with a can. Capiche?
I was blessed since I was 12 years old with good eyesight and steel nerves. Contest? No bragg
just fact, you wouldn't stand a chance against me I can throw a penny in the air and shoot it.
Written by: anthonyC, 9 Dec 2008 11:14 PM
From: United States
9mm???
Sorry. If I am going to stop a man I need a round that is a man stopper and the 9mm is not a man stopper.
.45ACP is what I carry
Ice pick Vs. Bowling ball.
Sigs are nice. They make a nice 1911.
Kimber Stainless Ultra Carry II is my light carry weapon
Also have a Custom Colt 1911A1
Written by: generoso, 9 Dec 2008 11:21 PM
From: United States, DR
.45 is slow and butt heavy but a good subsonic stopper.
Don't like single actions pistolas, they don't carry enough rounds in single row mag.
1911 Browning design is antiquated and obsolete, although reliable.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
" the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet."
Written by: mrios, 10 Dec 2008 9:46 AM
From: United States
Gentlemen,
All have made great choices, When I carry my Mod. 1911 I use Rem. 185 gr. jhp which for guys who like a little more speed and splat that's the load, I like my Sig pro in a 40 cal. when I carry that I use Fed. 180 gr. fmj I like the speed and penetration associated vs. my 1911, when it comes to 9mm I'll prefer my CZ mod. 75 compact with Win. 124 gr. fmj it's small, very reliable and deadly accurate, but being a old guy from the old school my favorite is still my OL SS 5- shot Ruger 357 mag. SP model with Rem. 125 gr. jhp guarantee spat on the first hit. Many prefer autos which is great, some people fell safe and secure with extra rounds which I won't knock. IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT ONE FELLS SAFE AND SECURE WITH, THAT COUNTS. HAPPY SHOOTING....
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Talk about penis envy....mines bigger than yours ...now I am beginning to see the psychosis you guys have...please get help ..thats what you guys are doing ....crying out for help
Written by: generoso, 10 Dec 2008 9:56 AM
From: United States, DR
mrios
For all of us with real combat experience we know that the 9mm is not the ideal man stopper but it is a cartridge that can be easily obtained in any corner of the world. And the range of loads go from sub-sonic to the "quad" HE sub-machinegun load.
The Mossad asasination squads prefer the .22 short with a silencer for close quarter termination.
The .40 caliber is the best all around modern pistol cartridge as the .45 is almost 100 years old
today and the ballistics are not optimal.
Written by: generoso, 10 Dec 2008 10:03 AM
From: United States, DR
GC
Scram!.... this thread is for "real men" only!
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
I'm Canadian. It's like being American, but without the gun.
Written by: anthonyC, 10 Dec 2008 12:31 PM
From: United States
generoso,
For those with Combat experience we all hated when the US switched to 9mm in exchange for NATO switching to .223.
The .45 is a tried and true round that will knocked down the most hopped up Jihadist around.
Speaking from experience if you need more than 7 rounds in a civilian combat situation you are dead already.
The mob has been using the .22 for hits for over 75 years. The Israelis jsut coppied what works.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
you guys read to many comic books ....the do do is getting deep have to go put on my rubber boots
Written by: generoso, 10 Dec 2008 2:03 PM
From: United States, DR
anthonyC
You meant 7.62mm or .308 NATO to 5.56mm or .223 didn't you?
.45 is for old coggers that refuse to actualize themselves. 14 rounds are better than 7 anytime.
Low velocity, too heavy a bullet at middle ranges its like a slingshot rock dropping fast.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
at least you learned something in the grunts....it would be really helpful running a Seven Eleven but I guess the Koreans got that locked up
Written by: anthonyC, 10 Dec 2008 2:45 PM
From: United States
Ice pick Vs Bowling Ball
If I am going to have to you my Firearm it is because I feel that my life or that of a love one is in Danger.
The Goal is to stop the offender from killing.
An Ice Pick(9mm) might kill him but it won't always stop the assailant from killing you.
A Bowling Ball(.45ACP) is going to knock that sucker down.
BTW You say that the .45ACP is old technology?
Guess what.
The 9mm parabellum was created in 1902
the .45ACP was created in 1905.
So it is you using an "OLD" round.
Written by: generoso, 10 Dec 2008 4:03 PM
From: United States, DR
anthonyC
Never said anything about "old technology" what I said was that it was for "old coggers" since it is a "traditionalist" round. A few years back mostly all state troopers and police had .45 sidearms and they refused to switch with the same argument. My point is that more rounds available increase the odds of a hit.
That's why the armed forces went from 7.62mm to 5.56mm just a question off more firepower for the same carry weight.
The .45 was designed after the Moros uprising in the Phillipines when the marines had a hard time stopping the rebels with their .38 special revolvers, and it got a reputation after that.
.40 caliber is a much better round and I prefer it than either one of the two we mentioned, but again is for experienced shooters as it is harder to handle and control than a .45 or 9mm.
Is all a matter of personal choice, under perfect conditions I would use the .40 caliber, under
uncertain conditions worldwide the 9mm with teflon coated bullets and special loa
Written by: generoso, 10 Dec 2008 4:09 PM
From: United States, DR
anthonyC
BTW if you know anything about modern personal defense and anti-kidnapping techniques then you should be familiar with the "Guatemalan special" doctrine, which is two in the body and one in the head. Why? just in case he is wearing a bulletproof vest like most modern criminals do. So again you will need more rounds available to use and ACCURACY is what matters not size and weight of the bullet. It is a lot easier to place a shot accurately in a target with a 9mm than a .45.
Anyway three or two well placed shots are better than one anytime. 9mm in inches is equivalent to
.36 caliber so times two rounds is .72 lot better than just a .45.
Written by: anthonyC, 10 Dec 2008 4:32 PM
From: United States
But one round can be fired in 1/2 the time of 2
The Boers were in South Africa.
A standard FMJ .45ACP will stop anyone dead it it's tracks. Body armor doesn't matter.
For concealed Carry a .45 single stack is the perfect choice.
Written by: generoso, 10 Dec 2008 4:42 PM
From: United States, DR
Sorry the Moros uprising is the correct name.
"Combat at close quarters against the fierce charges of the Moros in the Philippines demonstrated the need for a hand weapon less cumbersome and having greater impact than the .38-caliber revolver. The Army found the answer in the recently developed .45-caliber Colt automatic pistol, adopted in 1911."
Anyway like I said before it is a matter of personal choice. There are no winners here. You are happy with your .45 so be it. If you were under my command going to an overseas assignment then you would have to follow orders...or else.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
the Huk were worse....you guys and your cowboys and indians....what do you wanna be when you grow up
Written by: anthonyC, 10 Dec 2008 5:47 PM
From: United States
Orders?
When I served nobody told me what type of sidearm to carry. Nobody would have had the balls.
Written by: generoso, 10 Dec 2008 6:13 PM
From: United States, DR
anthonyC
10 days of solitary confinement for insubordination and insolence!
Written by: anthonyC, 10 Dec 2008 6:24 PM
From: United States
"10 days of solitary confinement for insubordination and insolence!"
Tell it to the Marines.
Written by: mrios, 10 Dec 2008 7:11 PM
From: United States
Wow,
Why don't we leave at that, Those who would not own or carry a firearm fine....I'm just reminded of a Neighbor Gun hating friend [ well call him Bob ] of mine during the Los Angeles Riots in the early 1990's, a day after the L.A Riots broke out and news / rumors were spreading of possible Rioters, looters and gang bangers moving North to our Neighborhood in Palmdale to peledge [ some 65 miles North of Normandy and Florence Blvds ] , he knocks on my door all frantic asking it I would let him borrow one of my firearms........I told him "Are you crazy, Hell no"....was I going to let him barrow one of my registered Firearms with out proper Training and the only motive to arm himself was fear, NEVER, NEVER. It took L.A.P.D, Army NG, L.A County Sheriff's Dept. etc..etc.. 3 Days to properly respond, What a disaster, don't be a Bob...........Lesson learned.
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"the population to become aware of what it means to carry a gun and the risk of having them in visible places".
WHY ARE POLICE SEARCHING ALL VEHICLES & CONFISCATING HIDDEN ARMS, KNIVES & GENERIC WEAPONS FROM LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS WHEN THEY WERE NOT VISIBLE THUS REQUIRING A SEARCH?
BUT... when there are micro-trafficking drug dealers who work with the RD Gov and its "SYSTEM" to move drugs to the US and gain extraordinary wealth THEN all is okay for gangsters to carry ILLEGAL arms!
There is a Tiguere in my barrio of Los Platanitos (Ensanche Caonabo) in Santiago who goes by the street name of Choppo (a convicted drug trafficker) who's real name is Jose Annibal Lopez Pichardo who owns an illegal gun and even shot an unarmed teenager at point blank range at the beginning of this year. The police were NO SHOWS!
These empty arguments to TRY to disarm the law abiding citizens that need to have weapons for their business and personal protection will not stand and are repudiated by all the population with two inches of space in their forehead.
Please General Guzman, with all due respect we are not stupid.
The next step is to disarm the population entirely,
Mostly all criminals study and even stalk there victims. If you own a GUN are you ready to use Deadly force, Just think of all the crime that has been commented with stolen guns. Here in California [ Compton, California ] we just had a yearly GUN turn IN, with no questions asked....RIGHT all Guns were checked to make sure they were stolen or used in a crime, figure that. Each person who turned in a WORKING NON WORKING NON-USED IN A CRIME GUN was given a Get this, $100.00 gift certificate, most if not all asked for Grocery / food certificates. Not one mention was made of the total Gun related Crime for that week-end in Compton California which DID NOT DROP at all. The real sad part is since all GUNS turned in were registered and from hard working Law Abiding Citizens / Family's THE REAL QUESTION IS who will protect these Fire armless defenseless Family's....At least they'll have food to eat, I mean something the Criminals will use to target there victims anyway.
If your a gun owner, is your Wife and older Children proficient in it's USE and SAFETY.
As a Family make up secret words meaning different Dangers.
Always be aware of your surroundings.
Never travel alone.
Avoid talking to total strangers or neighbors about your person information.
Never use the same route to and from work.
Always look out for strangers hanging around you home, work place etc..etc..
Friends are the ones who would probably will be connected in some way to you being a victim.
Avoid flashy clothes and material items such as Jewelery.
Never carry large sums of cash.
Be careful of surprise stranger visits to your home.
Get to know and share information with your neighbors.
I know this goes against Dominican custom and way of life.
MEANWHILE RELAX, A MANS HOME IS HIS CASTLE.
More on the way.....
Did you live in Beruit?
There mainly 2 types of Criminals, career criminal who plots and plans and are the experts, then there the opportunist who jumps at a the first chance and are sloppy, most get discovered and get caught.
Most criminals can't look you in the eyes [ to look into a Mans eyes is to look into their hearts ].
Most criminals work in groups and use modern day technology to their advantage, like cell phones to communicate to fellow thieves.
If you fell your being set up, kindly say CAN I HELP, 9 times one of 10 they'll leave you alone.
Criminals hate noise and attention....A whistle is dandy, don't be surprised people around either have been a victim of crime in the past or are fed up with crime and are always willing to assist .
Carry only I.D and small amounts of cash only, separate your money and put small amounts in each pocket.
Always tell close Friends and Family members where you are going and at what time you'll be expected to return.
MORE TO COM
If when traveling or shopping and you notice a stranger 2 or more times, you maybe being set up.
Never park in dark lonely streets.
Always stay in well lighted Streets and away from tourist hot spots, criminals love these areas.
Be careful of those looney toones on motorcycles their known for purse, bag, cell phone, camera, jewelry grabs.
Most thieves, pick pockets, Robbers look, choose and easy targets, don't be one.
When possible use a nice walking stick, they may come in handy some day.
I knew some one in Santo Domingo who wired a car alarm with 12 volt battery charged be solar with wireless entry to his house
If you would like more info. I'll be more then happy to post....
REFUSE TO BE A CRIME VICTIM...
From: Dominican Republic, Zona Colonial Casa Cordon
Compton ...worse than Beirut or Baghdad"
Actually the murder Capital of the world, Worse than Bagdad, Beruit, Compton or even Detroit?
Caracas!!!! Way to go Hugo!!!!
Right again. Life is cheap, My Cousin told me of a story of his friend and his Wife while on vacation in Caracas who were stopped on a lonely Highway carjacked, robbed, stripped of there clothes and left on the highway stark naked. Don't know all the details but I'm sure a little common sense, preventive measures, and little old 6th sense could have maybe prevented that incident. In the DR why even have Police in nice clean pressed uniforms if they won't do there jobs to Protect Life, Property and the innocent under the Law. Sounds like the DR needs a CRIMINAL GANG UNIT. To this day I still live by those rules of self preservation....NOTHING ON GODS GREEN EARTH IS WORTH YOUR LIFE, TAKE EXTREME CAUTION.
GOD PROTECTS THOSE, WHO PROTECT THEM SELVES
I can think of lots of things.
I think you know what I mean, I rather die trying to protect my Family and my fellow man, I just didn't want to sound like a maniac or one who promotes Violence. One should see me on the shooting Range......One dead aim shot, followed by 2 more rapped aimed shots up to 30 feet. Take care and God Bless..
Really, are you that good?
I can put a hole in a bottle cap at 50 feet and when it bounces up, shoot it again.
That's one handed of course, two handed is another story.
I'm not one to brag but damn since your that good of a shot....But you failed to mention the caliber, make, model and load in your Firearm of choice, but thats alright, if your that good I'll like to challenge you to a shooting match, we can also try a short quarter combat course, or my personal favor et long distance shooting engaging targets up to 200 yds and beyond on the target range of course. As a Firearm collector and trainer I would love the chance to share my deadly skills, heck I'll even supply the firearms and ammo. It's fun and easy. My problem is every time I shot a hole threw something center mass in the past it never bounced back for a second shot that defies the Law of physics, you must be a trick shot and work for the Circus, right. Hope to hear from you a.s.a.p Brother.
Right, Sure!
You must hang around the range a lot.
BTW the term is "Tapped"
Have fun with your Daisy.
A daisy, I had one as a 9 year old, you'll be surprised how I have grown and developed in the last 4 decades to bigger and much better things. Please email Dominican today.com and they will forward your home email to me.
In fact I'll email Dominican Today.com and give them my permission.
Daisy was a BB gun for girls......real men(boys) had Crossmans
I prefer a Sig Sauer 9mm because it has less recoil than a .40 caliber and more accurate.
Equinox (night and day) is optimal because the Sig armorers go through them carefully.
Load is 115 gr.works fine with me or sub-sonic 147 gr. using a threaded barrel with a can. Capiche?
I was blessed since I was 12 years old with good eyesight and steel nerves. Contest? No bragg
just fact, you wouldn't stand a chance against me I can throw a penny in the air and shoot it.
Sorry. If I am going to stop a man I need a round that is a man stopper and the 9mm is not a man stopper.
.45ACP is what I carry
Ice pick Vs. Bowling ball.
Sigs are nice. They make a nice 1911.
Kimber Stainless Ultra Carry II is my light carry weapon
Also have a Custom Colt 1911A1
Don't like single actions pistolas, they don't carry enough rounds in single row mag.
1911 Browning design is antiquated and obsolete, although reliable.
All have made great choices, When I carry my Mod. 1911 I use Rem. 185 gr. jhp which for guys who like a little more speed and splat that's the load, I like my Sig pro in a 40 cal. when I carry that I use Fed. 180 gr. fmj I like the speed and penetration associated vs. my 1911, when it comes to 9mm I'll prefer my CZ mod. 75 compact with Win. 124 gr. fmj it's small, very reliable and deadly accurate, but being a old guy from the old school my favorite is still my OL SS 5- shot Ruger 357 mag. SP model with Rem. 125 gr. jhp guarantee spat on the first hit. Many prefer autos which is great, some people fell safe and secure with extra rounds which I won't knock. IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT ONE FELLS SAFE AND SECURE WITH, THAT COUNTS. HAPPY SHOOTING....
For all of us with real combat experience we know that the 9mm is not the ideal man stopper but it is a cartridge that can be easily obtained in any corner of the world. And the range of loads go from sub-sonic to the "quad" HE sub-machinegun load.
The Mossad asasination squads prefer the .22 short with a silencer for close quarter termination.
The .40 caliber is the best all around modern pistol cartridge as the .45 is almost 100 years old
today and the ballistics are not optimal.
Scram!.... this thread is for "real men" only!
I'm Canadian. It's like being American, but without the gun.
For those with Combat experience we all hated when the US switched to 9mm in exchange for NATO switching to .223.
The .45 is a tried and true round that will knocked down the most hopped up Jihadist around.
Speaking from experience if you need more than 7 rounds in a civilian combat situation you are dead already.
The mob has been using the .22 for hits for over 75 years. The Israelis jsut coppied what works.
You meant 7.62mm or .308 NATO to 5.56mm or .223 didn't you?
.45 is for old coggers that refuse to actualize themselves. 14 rounds are better than 7 anytime.
Low velocity, too heavy a bullet at middle ranges its like a slingshot rock dropping fast.
If I am going to have to you my Firearm it is because I feel that my life or that of a love one is in Danger.
The Goal is to stop the offender from killing.
An Ice Pick(9mm) might kill him but it won't always stop the assailant from killing you.
A Bowling Ball(.45ACP) is going to knock that sucker down.
BTW You say that the .45ACP is old technology?
Guess what.
The 9mm parabellum was created in 1902
the .45ACP was created in 1905.
So it is you using an "OLD" round.
Never said anything about "old technology" what I said was that it was for "old coggers" since it is a "traditionalist" round. A few years back mostly all state troopers and police had .45 sidearms and they refused to switch with the same argument. My point is that more rounds available increase the odds of a hit.
That's why the armed forces went from 7.62mm to 5.56mm just a question off more firepower for the same carry weight.
The .45 was designed after the Moros uprising in the Phillipines when the marines had a hard time stopping the rebels with their .38 special revolvers, and it got a reputation after that.
.40 caliber is a much better round and I prefer it than either one of the two we mentioned, but again is for experienced shooters as it is harder to handle and control than a .45 or 9mm.
Is all a matter of personal choice, under perfect conditions I would use the .40 caliber, under
uncertain conditions worldwide the 9mm with teflon coated bullets and special loa
BTW if you know anything about modern personal defense and anti-kidnapping techniques then you should be familiar with the "Guatemalan special" doctrine, which is two in the body and one in the head. Why? just in case he is wearing a bulletproof vest like most modern criminals do. So again you will need more rounds available to use and ACCURACY is what matters not size and weight of the bullet. It is a lot easier to place a shot accurately in a target with a 9mm than a .45.
Anyway three or two well placed shots are better than one anytime. 9mm in inches is equivalent to
.36 caliber so times two rounds is .72 lot better than just a .45.
The Boers were in South Africa.
A standard FMJ .45ACP will stop anyone dead it it's tracks. Body armor doesn't matter.
For concealed Carry a .45 single stack is the perfect choice.
"Combat at close quarters against the fierce charges of the Moros in the Philippines demonstrated the need for a hand weapon less cumbersome and having greater impact than the .38-caliber revolver. The Army found the answer in the recently developed .45-caliber Colt automatic pistol, adopted in 1911."
Anyway like I said before it is a matter of personal choice. There are no winners here. You are happy with your .45 so be it. If you were under my command going to an overseas assignment then you would have to follow orders...or else.
When I served nobody told me what type of sidearm to carry. Nobody would have had the balls.
10 days of solitary confinement for insubordination and insolence!
Tell it to the Marines.
Why don't we leave at that, Those who would not own or carry a firearm fine....I'm just reminded of a Neighbor Gun hating friend [ well call him Bob ] of mine during the Los Angeles Riots in the early 1990's, a day after the L.A Riots broke out and news / rumors were spreading of possible Rioters, looters and gang bangers moving North to our Neighborhood in Palmdale to peledge [ some 65 miles North of Normandy and Florence Blvds ] , he knocks on my door all frantic asking it I would let him borrow one of my firearms........I told him "Are you crazy, Hell no"....was I going to let him barrow one of my registered Firearms with out proper Training and the only motive to arm himself was fear, NEVER, NEVER. It took L.A.P.D, Army NG, L.A County Sheriff's Dept. etc..etc.. 3 Days to properly respond, What a disaster, don't be a Bob...........Lesson learned.