SANTO DOMINGO.- The United States Embassy asked the Government and the private sector to apply doping tests in the workplace, and cautioned businesspersons to stay away form suspicious companies which could be linked to drug-trafficking and money-laundering.
Ambassador Robert Fannin, in the keynote speech yesterday for the American Chamber of Commerce’s monthly luncheon, said the U.S. Government supports the Dominicans in its war on drugs.
The diplomat, who described the "Four pillars of the relations between Dominican Republic and the United States," said the National Police has shown leadership with its doping tests on its agents. "An anti-doping program, which is accompanied by legal guarantees, improves the employee’s productivity and the treatment options can save the important human capital."
Fannin said since money laundering provides the protective shield with profits from drug trafficking, a tool used against it is a system to confiscate assets, which he said works well in his country.
"I’m confident your companies will what’s necessary to erase the dregs of drugs and corruption in society. Of course, a good neighbor wouldn’t do business with a person who’s suspected of being a narcotics trafficker. In this same manner, I trust that you as businesspersons will stay away form suspicious companies which could be linked to narrcotics traffic," he said.
Fannin congratulated the work which the director of the country’s drug enforcement agency (DNCD), Rafael Ramirezm and Police chief Rafael Guzmán.
DR-CAFTA and prices
Ambassador Fannin said if the price of some products haven’t fallen, after the Free Trade Agreement with the United States and Central America took effect results from a rise in the price of oil and some other products in the international market. "Nobody should think the DR-CAFTA is a magical wand which will solve all the problems of the Dominican Republic."
He said for the Dominican economy he doesn’t see anything else other than progress and a great future.
In the event, American Chamber president Christhoper Paniagua praised the Government initiative to send a delegation to Washington to negotiate a monitoring agreement with the IMF.
From: United States
Not a bad idea, but certainly a far cry from being a cure-all. The drug merchants do not use the product they sell, and corrupt officials do not necessarily use them either. By relying solely on drug tests to fight the influx of drugs, the kingpins of the drug trade are left unscathed, while the low-end user is singled out to be punished. Why not scan the bank accounts of all public officials, and audit the finances of prosperous persons with no visable employment, as corresponding measures? The fact is, the only measures ever considered are those measures that focus on the demand-side, while the supply-side is consciously overlooked, and therefore free to continue flooding the DR and the US with drugs. As a gesture of sincerity, perhaps Ambassador Fannin should submit himself and his staff to regular drug tests AND fincancial auditing. I doubt we will ever be fortunate enough to witness that level of commitment.
From: United States
US Ambassador Fannin quoted: Of course, a good neighbor wouldn’t do business with a person who’s suspected of being a narcotics trafficker. In this same manner, I trust that you as businesspersons will stay away form suspicious companies which could be linked to narrcotics traffic," he said.
0000
Sir, if haven’t noticed there is many rats at DR that does walk with two legs.
Perhaps, if starting an anonymous “Clean Hot line”, you would be given the clues where to find them.
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
"The fact is, the only measures ever considered are those measures tahtfocus on thedemand-side, while the supply-side is consciously overlooked, and therefore free to continue flooding the DR andthe US with drugs".
davidjule; The statement above, quoted from your posting is fraught with false information. As a matter of fact, suspected supply-side providers of drugs are continuously under surveilance by drug enforcement agencies worldwide. The problem lies in theconstant moving around of the avenues of transfer of funds from the "dealer" to the "provider", or the "how, when and where" of the money flow. For you to say that this tracking is "consciously ignored" is ludicrous to say the least and the reference is has no foundation.
"As a gesture of sincerity, perhaps Ambassador Fannin should submit himself andhis staff to regular drug tests AND financial auditing. I doubt we will ever be fortunate enough to witness that level of commitment".
FYI, every Federal employee---
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
FYI, every Federal employee, including Ambasadors are subjected to periodic drug tests as mandated by appropriate regulations and policy.
Again, your commentary is designed solely to denegrate theUS Government in words couched in an agenda of perpetuating and fomenting hate and distrust of all things originating from the US.
I thought better of you, since you have exhibited a modicum of intelligence and expressions of having a reasonable eduation and the ability to make logical conclusions based on facts instead of innuendos by your "fellow travellers and comrades in arms" from the left.
Rest asured, in the future I shall analyze your comments more closely and comment accordingly.
Obviously, your agenda is to "keep the pot boiling" through sublimal innuendos couched in seemingly innocent comments.
TB
From: United States
Texas Bill, I am surprised by your adamency. While the supply-side takes occasional hits, it is obviously very much intact. In the past, as is quite sufficiently documented by a wide variety of sources, the supply-side has been aided and abetted by the same government that is calling for drug testing now. If you would please provide the names of the upper-level US government employees who has been required to submit to drug testing, then I will retract that potion of my comment. I think it goes wiuthout saying that drugs are still flooding both the DR and the US. How could anyone argue otherwise. While I admit to not having emperical evidence showing "conscious" intent, I stand by my contention that the suppy-side is, at the very least, given ample room to maneuver around the limited attempts to stop them, and that it is hypocritical for officials of our government to demand drug testing by private employers in the DR while our own country's record in that regard is abysmal.
Written by: Lautaro, 21 Feb 2008 2:16 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
What about the rats on your own backyard, Perception? Surely you must know that all the tactics on crime that the expats are bringing home were learned over there. Heck, if my mind doesn't fail me, you were even the ones which trained and supported Trujillo on his every undertaking.
From: United States
And frankly I resent you trying to attach to my words something I did not intend or imply in my comments. I have no hidden adgenda, and you, of all people, should be avoiding those types of personal attacks. You are often the one who is indignant when others attempt to use that tactic on you. I do not post comments without expecting a fair amount of scrutiny. However, I expect my words to be taken at face value, and that those with opposing points of view respond respectfully and with integrity. You have done yourself a disservice by demonstrating neither quality in your response. Labeling my comments as "innuendos by your "fellow travellers and comrades in arms" from the left" is ludicris, immature, and simply untrue. Your characterization is so petty and ridiculous, I won't attempt explaining how far from the truth your description is, but suffice it to say I am as far from a "fellow traveler" as one can get. Please continue to challenge my opinions, but do so without the animosity.
From: United States
If truly enforced the fight against “Drug & Human Trafficking ”, and true commitment to stop it, this problem should have disappeared by now.
All indications, shows a contradiction to this commitment. Otherwise, this problem wouldn’t grew as is today.
“Say what you Mean, And Mean what you Say“.
“Political Will”.
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
davidjule:
I find that I must admit to a "knee-jerk" response to your post. For that I apologize to you personally. My only excuse is that I have other things on my mind today.
As to offering names of officials who have been subjected to "drug tests", I cannot respond. Nor can you prove there are those within the heirarchy of government offices who bear responsibility for the charge you imply.
I think we two are sometimes on a different wavelength in observing the "goings-on" within our government and arrive at different conclusions thereby.
Consequently, methinks we are both at fault for the verbage we use/have used regarding thissubject.
I can only plead "existing rules, regulations and policies" formulated by the various agencies within our government in support of my premise.
Again, I apologize for the accusation of "fellow traveler, etc." and withdraw that comment before all.
TB
Written by: Belial, 21 Feb 2008 6:30 PM
From: United States, Texas
"The United States Embassy asked the Government and the private sector to apply doping tests in the workplace ..."
0000
Leonel should send a DR ambassador to the USA with the exact same degree of arrogance and contempt for the US people that the current US Ambassador Robert Fannin has for the DR people.
Before the new DR ambassador is kicked out of the USA, he should tell the the US regime and US bourgeoisie to drug test US people.
The new DR ambassador, notwithstanding diplomatic immunity, would be arrested, thrown in jail, tortured, and gang raped on camera before politely released with appropriate apologies to the custody of his country.
From: United States
Texas Bill, if I didn't respect you as much as I do, I would not have been as moved by your response as I was. I certainly understand being distracted by other things. I am in a similar state of mind. As far as having different points of view goes, hell, my best friends argue with me all the time, and I am constantly confounding them with my eclectic and obscure blend of opinions. I enjoy an honest and straight-forward exchange of ideas, and I don't mind being corrected when I am wrong . So, let's remain friends and agree to disagree occasionally. I might even surprise you with agreements from time to time.
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
Perception;
On one hand you have spoken out against drug activities andhuman trafficking, yet on theother hand you speak out against using methods by which these crimes may be mitigated and the guilty ones identified.
Are you so embroiled in denegrating everything that you can't seperate the "wheat from the chaff"?
I have yet to see you agree with ANYTHING reported and/or commented on by persons posting in any of the articles published on this periodical.
I do wish you would re-examine your positions and begin some reasonable responses which contain positive commentaries and solutions to the subjects which you wish to address.
Your mind seems to be a maelstrom of conflicting thoughts which you fail to properly identify.
You really need to have a good mental physic andrid yourself of this symptom of mental conflict.
TB
Written by: Lautaro, 22 Feb 2008 12:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
It's of no use preaching to him, mr. TB. He'll not be content nor satisfied enough until he sees the DR in ashes (literally), and all because of a scam that a dominican national did to him. Man, this guy certainly knows how to carry a grudge....
From: United States
Sir, You live at Dominicana, but obviously you don’t comprehend Dominican culture. It seems to me that you have studied them from their surface, but you had been looking at the wrong place to understand them. Many mistakes officials made when assign to work down there.
“To find their true value, you have to look inside them”.
Letter From A DR Friend
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You will spend the rest of your life whinning and crying about what goes on in politics in the D.R.
and at the end they will still keep on doing what they are used to do ;
""" One : they are rotten corrupted to the bone and they hate their own people -the problem is in their genes- only money and power make the dominican politicians feel good about themselfs , they need lots of money to buy cars , houses in the beach , trips all over the world , expensive watches and nice clothes because they are so ugly with souch low selfsteem that they are so empty and shallow inside out . cont
Written by: Lautaro, 22 Feb 2008 1:25 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Obviously, the DR, as any Third World Country, is bound to commit many mistakes on its road to development, but that certainly doesn't make us the barbarians you're so happily portraying at every turn.
From: United States
Cont.
They need to fill themselfs with artificial stuffs and luxury because there is no vision , creativity , kindness or humanity in their souls . They also dont care what kind of country their children are going to inherit or all the carbon monoxide they are sucking in from polution . They dont think about this things .
""" and Two : they are heavily armed !! , sorrounded by an extremely poor and weak population who want to follow in their steps because they understand that politics is the only way out of their missery , Middle class and the wealthy population are a bunch of loosers must of them traumatized by their parents failures and personal issues , with no cojones what so ever to stand against the devil , they are too busy kissing his ass!!!!!
Watch an HBO show called Shake hands with the Devil , Ruanda same as Republica D
From: United States
All indications, shows a contradiction to this commitment. Otherwise, this problem wouldn’t grew as is today.
Fools !!!!!
Written by: Lautaro, 22 Feb 2008 1:36 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
You'll excuse me, perception, but there are no similarities between Ruanda and the DR, aside the fact that they're both Third World countries, that is. As mr. TB says, you have yet to present a single constructive idea about what needs to be done on the DR (the ones that you've presented so far being impracticable), because, from my POV, the only thing that you have been doing is to portray us in a bad light at every single turn. Heck, you've even made me agree with Rubirosa for once, a surprising feat by itself, considering that we've abysmal differing views about what needs to be done to advance the country. And for your info, Mexico City and Santiago of Chile are more polluted than Santo Domingo by a very large margin (In Mexico City, people need to wear facemasks in order to avoid getting lung cancer at an early age).
From: United States
M E D I O C R E !!!!
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
Perception;
You have just described your character, lack of self respect and integrity.
WELL DONE!!!
TB
From: United States
I think that will be more accord to your integrity and others !!! M E D I O C R E !!!! Always been okey with a middle or Median.
The typical pacifier sucker, Yea this, Yes that.
Stupidest, News are simple questionable events to a reader, and you always seems to agree with the news itself don’t portraits.
You don't know anyone here to try to letcure Us.!!!
Written by: Lautaro, 22 Feb 2008 5:37 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Are you done with your spiteful rant? The only thing that you have accomplished so far is to alienate the people that could have agreed with your outlandish ideas (if those could be called that).
From: United States
We are all guilty of over-statement from time to time. The temptation to use hyperbole is quite strong. Often the first one to exaggerate never stands a chance, since the next person's exaggeration will be bigger and better. Mr.Perception apparently fell into that trap. The DR has more than its share of problems, but it is most decidedly not the same as Rwanda. Compared to Rwanda the DR is Utopia. Mr Perception was caught over-playing his hand, and as is the case with many of us, he is reluctant to back down. It becomes a matter of pride, and from that point on the dialog quickly degenerates. However, there is some common ground. Most of agree drugs are a problem, and that something must be done about it.. The differences exist in determining the most effective ways to eliminate drugs, and in evaluating the present level of corruption. If it is possible to begin at that point perhaps it is also possible for us to find solutions instead of wasting time bickering about non-issues.
Written by: Lautaro, 22 Feb 2008 6:39 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Peaceful coexistence will not be possible if one of the contending parties keep insisting that the country with the problem is nothing more than a bunch of irredeemable barbarians, as mr. perception have been doing on every single article in which he has posted so far, mr. davidjule.
Written by: Lautaro, 22 Feb 2008 7:23 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
See, mr. davidjule? I told you he would keep his current course. His hatred for the DR is simply pathological. He's Rubirosa's counterpart on the hate-against-nations thing.
Written by: Belial, 22 Feb 2008 7:30 PM
From: United States, Texas
Of course, if a new DR ambassador to the USA asked for a drug test on TexasBill by either the US regime or by the private sector in the US, I would be the last to object.
Perhaps, as in the DR, foreign ambassadors should intrude in these matters.
From: United States
This is not about me agreeing or not to a test for doping at DR. I believe the Drug problem needs to be attacked and combated at the source: “Manufacturing, Distribution, Storage, Accomplices and Money-Laundry”. Doping test will only identify who is using narcotics, this won’t stop the business, and there’s were the problem is. Do we know how many “Traffickers” open accounts at Florida and Many others States at the US without questions ask. Beside all the properties they purchase and no one even asked them where is this money coming from, including corrupted politicians.
“Impunity”, its what we see and read every time we saw a “Trafficker” goes free in DR Judicial System and many other Latin American countries.
What are we going to accomplish with identifying consumers, when the dealers are set free with a simple bribe.
Also, the new "HELI-CHOPPER" transportation businesses at many roof tops inside Sto. Dgo ???
“Between what its Said and Done, there’s a big Path”.
From: United States
Of course, a good neighbor wouldn’t do business with a person who’s suspected of being a narcotics trafficker.
0000
I do agree, Sir.
We can keep the position of “Director of Commerce” vacant indefinable. !!!
Written by: Belial, 22 Feb 2008 8:59 PM
From: United States, Texas
Just because a foreign ambassador believes that someone like TexasBill deserves a drug test doesn't mean that the foreign ambassador should be able to instigate a drug test for clean-cut, up-standing, and law-abiding US citizens like myself.
After all, before Bush, we had 4th Amendment rights against unreasonable searches and seizures of US citizens by the state in the USA.
If the ground for a drug test is that a foreign ambassador to the USA believes that US citizens should be drug-tested, how can any search, thereunder, be more unreasonable?
Written by: Belial, 22 Feb 2008 9:11 PM
From: United States, Texas
Since Amb. Fannin made his arrogant suggestion, he himself should be tested in the DR or at an independent venue for drug abuse, because the relevant literature agrees, without exception, that drug abuse often induces delusions of grandeur.
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
I will not dignify either of you with an answer.
TB
From: United States
Mr. Belial, I do understand & agree with your point on the “Doping Test” issue. But the "Drug Trafficking” problem of DR it’s not the other way around. What else can Mr. Fannin suggest in the fight of this disease? I’m very sure the US have a very clear picture of those involve with this Business, don’t get them wrong when they issued these recommendations.
I’m pretty sure Mr. Fannin and those at the Embassy don’t have a Drug problem, also I can assure you they’re having a problem addressing a message to the Dominican authorities. This is not “News”, the increased amounts of narcotics been delivered at DR shores, its growing.
This “Drug Problem” it’s getting out of hands and its jeopardizing good relations with our two nations and others. If this problem left uncheck, it would be worst when the US register DR in the list of “Narco-State”.
I have already heard in US evening news more than once recently, about DR’s accounting for 30% drugs entering the US. cont
From: United States
Cont.
And this is a very serious accusation, beside what else can happen in the future.
It would be wise to address this issue for the well being of Dominican Youth, US and others nationalities.
This is not about “Nationalism”, its about “Drugs”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lB863QvJhMFrom: United States
SANTO DOMINGO.- The family and lawyers of a 12-year-old girl who was brutally raped last year by seven men are demanding an immediate investigation by government and police officials into what they say were “serious faults” in the judicial process, including the “inexplicable” release yesterday of the only suspect held in prison.
At an emotional press conference at the Dominican Journalism College this morning, Sergia Galvan, Executive Director of the Women and Health Collective (CMS) read from a statement describing how Miguelina Cuevas, a pastor in the town of Mella in Independencia province, found the victim in the house where she lived with her mother, naked and bleeding, with multiple bruises and bite marks on her body. The girl told Cuevas that seven or eight men had taken turns raping her vaginally and anally for two days. She was unable to walk, so Cuevas brought her to her house and bathed her, and later took her by bus to report the crime to the authorities in Mella, and
Written by: Belial, 23 Feb 2008 12:36 AM
From: United States, Texas
The US Department of Transportation is rather tough on drug use and drug testing.
But the US Department of State to which this arrogant Amb. Fannin belongs is significantly more permissive about drug testing and abuse.
Why doesn't Fannin demand the US State Department adopt the same drug prevention policies that he "requests" for the DR's government and DR private sectors?
That perhaps is too much to ask.
The US Statement uses a kind of random testing and surveillance or internal snitching for US foreign service and other embassy employees.
Fannin wants to hold Dominicans to a higher drug prevention standard than he holds US embassy employees to, who in Santo domingo are well known as big time drug junkies, dealers, and pushcers.
Written by: BLANCO, 23 Feb 2008 12:20 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I got a little dizzy on this it was like looking at the olympic symbol to many circles.. I need an aspirin excuse me while i go back to the top and find the subject matter... i'm back oh yeh doping tests . good idea but not on FANNIN'S suggestion
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
Blanco;
I'm with you, pardner. Somewhere along theline SOME people seemed to forget just which article they were posting under.
That seems to happen with more and more frequency, the longer these posted comments become.
Can't really say too much, cause I'm sure I'm guilty of "going off track" from time to time myself.
I would like toadd that, in support of Amb. Fannin's remarks, the more people are identified through "drug tests", the more that can be placed into "rehabilitation" projects to "break the habit" and return to normal society.
It is common knowledge that "users" are sub-productive and wont to being delinquents.
Course, that scenario has been overlooked BY SOME in thier efforts to belittle theAmbassador with totally negative and derrogatory comments intended only to incite the reading public.
Since this is an "open forum" all we can do is by-pass such remarks and read the constructive ones.
TB
From: United States
and return to normal society.
?????
From: United States
I can understand the urge to make connections with other themes. There are many dynamic effects that exist between a wide variety of issues (i.e. drugs/corruption, coruption/politics, politics/race, race/nationalism, etc., etc.). We should be aware of these relationships, and explore the complex connections and their causes and effects. However, when making those connections, it would be preferable to stay on-topic and refrain from repeating the same arguments time and time again. Many of us follow many issues reported in Dominican Today and the comments associated with them. We are well aware of the other postings, and we do not need to see the same comments in multiple postings, accompanied by no new observations or original thought.
Written by: sangwong 
, 24 Feb 2008 6:08 PM
From: United States
OK .. let's see .. US Ambassadors are not appointed on the basis of their "knowledge", "skills" or any particular attribute that they can bring to benefit the country where they serve on behalf of the US Government .. aka "Uncle Sam" .. the US Ambassador is a political appointee .. usually a guy who has contributed a bundle of dineros towards the election or re-election of the President of the United States .. so if you are looking for wisdom .. smarts .. compassion .. ability .. talent .. or any of that kind of stuff .. you are not going to get it from the US Ambassador .. you are just wasting your time and your breath .. you could probably get more performance from a clerk at your local "Colmado" than from a US Ambassador .. I am not implying that US Ambassadors are aboslute morons .. just don't expect too much from them .. OK?
From: United States
While it is true many ambassadors are politically appointed, there are many career diplomats who run the show behind the speeches of the ambassador. And even though some ambassadors are merely figureheads the the diplomatic mission, as a whole, is based upon the current policy of the government. No ambassador is going to makes statements which are disapproved by the administration. So you can be fairly certain Ambassador Fannin is simply stating what he has been instructed to say. This is not an insult to the ambassador. It is simply an accepted fact, and no one knows better than the ambassador himself there is no room for loose canons in the diplomatic corps.
Written by: Belial, 25 Feb 2008 12:43 AM
From: United States, Texas
"I find that I must admit to a "knee-jerk" response to your post."
oooo
"Jerk" is more concised.
Written by: Belial, 25 Feb 2008 12:47 AM
From: United States, Texas
"I am not implying that US Ambassadors are aboslute morons"
oooo
But many of them stretch relativity until it approximates the absolute.
Written by: Belial, 25 Feb 2008 12:50 AM
From: United States, Texas
"I'm guilty of "going off track" from time to time myself."
oooo
You don't have to go anywhere to get off track.
From time to time you go on track.
Written by: pamela44, 25 Feb 2008 6:48 AM
From: United States
I had to drug test for my job and endure a background check and all i do is take calls and give Customer Service to customers of a major Telecommunications company..If I had to go through it then all employees of the Government should be randomly drug tested every 3 months
Written by: Belial, 25 Feb 2008 1:29 PM
From: United States, Texas
In Houston, Chuck Rosenthal, 62, just resigned as the Harris County District Attorney, citing abuse of prescription drugs for his bizarre activities ... both sexist and racist ... while in office.
For years, while he fully enjoyed his prescriptions, he sent a lot of kids to prisons on drug charges.
I wonder if drugs tests can detect the obsessive use of drugs to correct erectile dysfunctions, a condition that seems to have afflicted the 62-year old District Attorney.
Are there any reports of bizarre activities at the US embassy in Santo Domiingo? Our honorable ambassador ... full of something ... seems to be stunting about town with a hard-on for everybody who works for the state or in the private sector.
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0000
Sir, if haven’t noticed there is many rats at DR that does walk with two legs.
Perhaps, if starting an anonymous “Clean Hot line”, you would be given the clues where to find them.
davidjule; The statement above, quoted from your posting is fraught with false information. As a matter of fact, suspected supply-side providers of drugs are continuously under surveilance by drug enforcement agencies worldwide. The problem lies in theconstant moving around of the avenues of transfer of funds from the "dealer" to the "provider", or the "how, when and where" of the money flow. For you to say that this tracking is "consciously ignored" is ludicrous to say the least and the reference is has no foundation.
"As a gesture of sincerity, perhaps Ambassador Fannin should submit himself andhis staff to regular drug tests AND financial auditing. I doubt we will ever be fortunate enough to witness that level of commitment".
FYI, every Federal employee---
Again, your commentary is designed solely to denegrate theUS Government in words couched in an agenda of perpetuating and fomenting hate and distrust of all things originating from the US.
I thought better of you, since you have exhibited a modicum of intelligence and expressions of having a reasonable eduation and the ability to make logical conclusions based on facts instead of innuendos by your "fellow travellers and comrades in arms" from the left.
Rest asured, in the future I shall analyze your comments more closely and comment accordingly.
Obviously, your agenda is to "keep the pot boiling" through sublimal innuendos couched in seemingly innocent comments.
TB
All indications, shows a contradiction to this commitment. Otherwise, this problem wouldn’t grew as is today.
“Say what you Mean, And Mean what you Say“.
“Political Will”.
I find that I must admit to a "knee-jerk" response to your post. For that I apologize to you personally. My only excuse is that I have other things on my mind today.
As to offering names of officials who have been subjected to "drug tests", I cannot respond. Nor can you prove there are those within the heirarchy of government offices who bear responsibility for the charge you imply.
I think we two are sometimes on a different wavelength in observing the "goings-on" within our government and arrive at different conclusions thereby.
Consequently, methinks we are both at fault for the verbage we use/have used regarding thissubject.
I can only plead "existing rules, regulations and policies" formulated by the various agencies within our government in support of my premise.
Again, I apologize for the accusation of "fellow traveler, etc." and withdraw that comment before all.
TB
0000
Leonel should send a DR ambassador to the USA with the exact same degree of arrogance and contempt for the US people that the current US Ambassador Robert Fannin has for the DR people.
Before the new DR ambassador is kicked out of the USA, he should tell the the US regime and US bourgeoisie to drug test US people.
The new DR ambassador, notwithstanding diplomatic immunity, would be arrested, thrown in jail, tortured, and gang raped on camera before politely released with appropriate apologies to the custody of his country.
On one hand you have spoken out against drug activities andhuman trafficking, yet on theother hand you speak out against using methods by which these crimes may be mitigated and the guilty ones identified.
Are you so embroiled in denegrating everything that you can't seperate the "wheat from the chaff"?
I have yet to see you agree with ANYTHING reported and/or commented on by persons posting in any of the articles published on this periodical.
I do wish you would re-examine your positions and begin some reasonable responses which contain positive commentaries and solutions to the subjects which you wish to address.
Your mind seems to be a maelstrom of conflicting thoughts which you fail to properly identify.
You really need to have a good mental physic andrid yourself of this symptom of mental conflict.
TB
“To find their true value, you have to look inside them”.
Letter From A DR Friend
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You will spend the rest of your life whinning and crying about what goes on in politics in the D.R.
and at the end they will still keep on doing what they are used to do ;
""" One : they are rotten corrupted to the bone and they hate their own people -the problem is in their genes- only money and power make the dominican politicians feel good about themselfs , they need lots of money to buy cars , houses in the beach , trips all over the world , expensive watches and nice clothes because they are so ugly with souch low selfsteem that they are so empty and shallow inside out . cont
They need to fill themselfs with artificial stuffs and luxury because there is no vision , creativity , kindness or humanity in their souls . They also dont care what kind of country their children are going to inherit or all the carbon monoxide they are sucking in from polution . They dont think about this things .
""" and Two : they are heavily armed !! , sorrounded by an extremely poor and weak population who want to follow in their steps because they understand that politics is the only way out of their missery , Middle class and the wealthy population are a bunch of loosers must of them traumatized by their parents failures and personal issues , with no cojones what so ever to stand against the devil , they are too busy kissing his ass!!!!!
Watch an HBO show called Shake hands with the Devil , Ruanda same as Republica D
Fools !!!!!
You have just described your character, lack of self respect and integrity.
WELL DONE!!!
TB
The typical pacifier sucker, Yea this, Yes that.
Stupidest, News are simple questionable events to a reader, and you always seems to agree with the news itself don’t portraits.
You don't know anyone here to try to letcure Us.!!!
His recommendation:
Watch an HBO show called Shake hands with the Devil , Ruanda same as Republica Dom.
DR Ex: http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/....demands-justice-from-state-police
Perhaps, as in the DR, foreign ambassadors should intrude in these matters.
“Impunity”, its what we see and read every time we saw a “Trafficker” goes free in DR Judicial System and many other Latin American countries.
What are we going to accomplish with identifying consumers, when the dealers are set free with a simple bribe.
Also, the new "HELI-CHOPPER" transportation businesses at many roof tops inside Sto. Dgo ???
“Between what its Said and Done, there’s a big Path”.
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I do agree, Sir.
We can keep the position of “Director of Commerce” vacant indefinable. !!!
After all, before Bush, we had 4th Amendment rights against unreasonable searches and seizures of US citizens by the state in the USA.
If the ground for a drug test is that a foreign ambassador to the USA believes that US citizens should be drug-tested, how can any search, thereunder, be more unreasonable?
TB
I’m pretty sure Mr. Fannin and those at the Embassy don’t have a Drug problem, also I can assure you they’re having a problem addressing a message to the Dominican authorities. This is not “News”, the increased amounts of narcotics been delivered at DR shores, its growing.
This “Drug Problem” it’s getting out of hands and its jeopardizing good relations with our two nations and others. If this problem left uncheck, it would be worst when the US register DR in the list of “Narco-State”.
I have already heard in US evening news more than once recently, about DR’s accounting for 30% drugs entering the US. cont
And this is a very serious accusation, beside what else can happen in the future.
It would be wise to address this issue for the well being of Dominican Youth, US and others nationalities.
This is not about “Nationalism”, its about “Drugs”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lB863QvJhM
At an emotional press conference at the Dominican Journalism College this morning, Sergia Galvan, Executive Director of the Women and Health Collective (CMS) read from a statement describing how Miguelina Cuevas, a pastor in the town of Mella in Independencia province, found the victim in the house where she lived with her mother, naked and bleeding, with multiple bruises and bite marks on her body. The girl told Cuevas that seven or eight men had taken turns raping her vaginally and anally for two days. She was unable to walk, so Cuevas brought her to her house and bathed her, and later took her by bus to report the crime to the authorities in Mella, and
But the US Department of State to which this arrogant Amb. Fannin belongs is significantly more permissive about drug testing and abuse.
Why doesn't Fannin demand the US State Department adopt the same drug prevention policies that he "requests" for the DR's government and DR private sectors?
That perhaps is too much to ask.
The US Statement uses a kind of random testing and surveillance or internal snitching for US foreign service and other embassy employees.
Fannin wants to hold Dominicans to a higher drug prevention standard than he holds US embassy employees to, who in Santo domingo are well known as big time drug junkies, dealers, and pushcers.
I'm with you, pardner. Somewhere along theline SOME people seemed to forget just which article they were posting under.
That seems to happen with more and more frequency, the longer these posted comments become.
Can't really say too much, cause I'm sure I'm guilty of "going off track" from time to time myself.
I would like toadd that, in support of Amb. Fannin's remarks, the more people are identified through "drug tests", the more that can be placed into "rehabilitation" projects to "break the habit" and return to normal society.
It is common knowledge that "users" are sub-productive and wont to being delinquents.
Course, that scenario has been overlooked BY SOME in thier efforts to belittle theAmbassador with totally negative and derrogatory comments intended only to incite the reading public.
Since this is an "open forum" all we can do is by-pass such remarks and read the constructive ones.
TB
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"Jerk" is more concised.
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But many of them stretch relativity until it approximates the absolute.
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You don't have to go anywhere to get off track.
From time to time you go on track.
For years, while he fully enjoyed his prescriptions, he sent a lot of kids to prisons on drug charges.
I wonder if drugs tests can detect the obsessive use of drugs to correct erectile dysfunctions, a condition that seems to have afflicted the 62-year old District Attorney.
Are there any reports of bizarre activities at the US embassy in Santo Domiingo? Our honorable ambassador ... full of something ... seems to be stunting about town with a hard-on for everybody who works for the state or in the private sector.