ACCIDENTALLY fired several times? is that anything like the excuse " he accidentally fell on the knife several times"?

"while another version says the soldier had asked the foreigners for money to allow them to cross the border."

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Could this be a bribe gone wrong??? How in the hell do you fire SEVERAL shots accidentally? Especially knowing that the foreigners were virtually almost certain to be Haitian migrants (seeing that you deal with them everyday and most likely to be unarmed.) I doubt they threatened the ARMED soldier.

i bet this guy walks. i hope the DR will rise to the level of a 21st century society and charge him with murder.( and pigs can fly)

Someone rarely fires several shots accidently, the same way someone doesn't get into a discussion accidently without being provoked (eiter an insult, commentary or a bribe attemp)

rarely, DaniDr? how can you fire several shots, accidentally? was it an automatic capable weapon in full automatic mode? we will never know .

Dreadlock,

Unfortunately, justice will not be served and this human being lost her life. My worst nightmare was that the CESFRONT will have an open season on haitians that cross the border illegally. IMO, this whole thing is to give a front as if the border is under control while the same people that are suppose to be protecting and monitoring the border will be involve in corruption. License to kill at will if there needs "impuesto" are not met and haitians that cross are at their mercy. I think dominicans need to come out at speak about what happened until justice is served. The new boys in town will just intensify an already precarious situation. Let's hope something is done b4 more innocent people die

Whatever the story is a human beings life was taken and for what ?

There is no excuse for them firing on an unarmed civilian unless the civilian pulled out a weapon.

Undertrained and trigger happy ,the saftey should have been on.

I don't trust the police here never have .
I know to many and they don't know how to handle a weapon.

3 generals to investigate this incident? are we sure they have not been sent as a show of force to intimidate potential witnesses? by the way, why did this woman die in a santiago hospital if she was shot in Dajabon? is there no trauma capable medical facility closer than Santiago? there are some really bothersome concerns surrounding this incident. hopefully dominicans wont cry foul if international human rights authorities ask a few questions.

trigger happy enforcement officials indeed.

"Haitian Assumptions".........................................................or Haitians Guessings

Haitians want to destroy Dominican Republic existence like always

yes Rubi: the Haitians are assuming that this woman is dead, and guessing that she was shot by someone who fired accidentally several times. they made this story up to discredit the DR. the woman in question is really happily alive and well, peddling her wares in a pulga in Dajabon.

nice one dreadlocks (;

We need cooler heads to prevail. No one really knows what happened. Let's just wait and see what the outcome is. Stop illegal immigration to DR!!!! I know that won't happened but Haiti has to do more for it's people to prevent it!! Don't you think????

"dred the red" is going to invite another UN fact finder group to come......maybe another movie like sugar babies to impart his point of view.....the Dominicans will be condemned ....International headlines will declare us racists ...a tourist embargo is next and" Dred the Red" is happy....his loyal assistant belial will aid him in his project to destroy the economy ....Justice has been done...the wealth has been redistributed

you see why i hold you in contempt, Goulet? you have never, ever, once in all your postings, taken the side of the oppressed. i agree with ny4life in that we do not know what happened. we only have to go on the reports from the Dominican authorities, who offer the explanation that the shooter fired accidentally SEVERAL TIMES!! had the report stated that his gun went off by accident, then i would be the first to suggest that we suspend judgement until the issue is ventilated further. i have only two questions, and i do not see them to be outrageous
1) how do you fire accidentally SEVERAL TIMES?
2) is there no medical facility between dajabon and Santiago capable of treating gunshot wounds? if you find these to be outrageous inquiries against the backdrop of the reports, so be it!

dred you have already made 6 postings on thi s thread out of 11....why dont you just say it.....the sarcasm of those posts has nothing to do with justice..it is the rousing of a mob

Barack your hero is only 200 kilometers away in St thomas maybe he will come with Maxine Waters next time....maybe he will crown you king of HISPANIOLA

are you following me Goulet?

did Rose Kennedy wear a black dress?

I agree with you dreadlocks. I mean how can a gun be fired acidentally several times and hit two people? Now assuming after the first shot they started running its hard to believe the officer accidentally hit them without trying to. For the other point I would not be suprised if Santiago was the closest center equipped to handle a gun shot wound so that isn't that suprising. Anyways I doubt this was accidental but I guess we must wait for all the facts to come out.

yes, Boca, we must wait for the full release of information in the interest of fairness. but you raised the most salient question: isn't it strange that the accidental discharges did not go into the air, into a tree or a fence, but ended up hitting the two targets?

" Dred the Red " you cannot help yourself you must return and continue to stir the trouble until they are a mob......justice is not served this way....you are like al Sharpton in Bensohurst....what a pity

you are a pestilence upon the planet, Goulet. you are so transparent, it is painful. all the other posters raise the same questions that i do. you however choose to focus your attacks only at me. you know why? it gives you the opportunity to invoke the name of some black person that you revile. lets see, in all your postings the names you have called: Barack Obama, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters, Jesse Jackson...rastafarians...did black guys use to kick your miserable ass in school and take your lunch money? you really have a Jones about you with this black thing, dude. are you just mad because Fidel allowed black people to go to colleges? what is with you and this race thing? do you have to invoke black names at every opportunity? and you call me racist?

Well, guess like killing season is officially open on Haitians.... All thats gonna happen is the soldier will create some somber story, acting like he is traumatized and get a slap on the wrist. Then after that things will be back to normal.

Before we all make premeditated judgements, one must look and closely analyze the story. The Dominican Military uses the M-16 rifle as its weapon of choice and this weapon is not known for going off accidentally . despite that being said, we do not have the full accounts of what happened. Let the authorities do the fact finding and when they do know what happened, we must discuss the situation like civilized Christians.

- OCristoRedentor

Haitians are so Happy when they see this kind of news since They can be portrayed to the rest of the planet as the "Victims".

Haitians are forcing their entry to Dominican Republic and want to take over our country at "Will"
since they feel entitled to do as They pleased.

I will give the "benefit of the doubt" like civilized countries to the soldiers that are risking their lives
on a daily basis dealing with these invasive "Race"

The soldiers posted in the border ALL without exception use the M-16 with full automatic engaged by rules. The fact that several shots were fired is not weird but a given while using the rifle.
A fully automatic burst from an M-16 in short distance is lethal to anyone.

The fact that those wounded were sent to Santiago was the need to intervene a rapidly deteriorating trauma which most local clinics in the area would be incapable of dealing with. The wounded were given first aid and sent as fast as possible there in order to save their lives.

The helicopter used to transport personnel to and from the Cesfront center in the border was completely destroyed by accidental fire of the unit some weeks ago, hence the lack of air evac for the wounded there.

The shooting was NOT an accidental "event", to fire an M-16 a guard must remove the safety off (it’s the #1 rule of the Armed Forces in the DR) before pulling the trigger to fire.

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The only excuse the soldier owns it's to say that he meant to shoot some warning shots, but given the trajectory and multiple impacts on people in the ground it's not probable to be a solid defense at all.

The fact the several generals were sent to investigate, is not a mystery or cover up by way of force. Most Dominican generals are trained overseas to conduct such investigations unlike the regular soldiers. Apart from that they can question any ranking soldier under his stars and equals, thus making the rank the best tool to find facts faster than using lower ranked officers.

The shooting sounds uncalled for and for whatever reasons unprovoked given the details allowed in the news media. Let's wait for the facts and make a concrete opinion based on that.
BTW: This hardly is the first time a civilian has been shot by soldiers posted in the border, both Haitian and Dominican. The fact that a full automatic weapon may have been employed in the shooting is very troublesome indeed

@RPICHARDO...The M-16 is also a semi-automatic rifle which means that you can fire single shots at will....2nd you have to switch the selector switch on an M16 from safe, then to semi then to automatic so that mean that soldier willinging ignored the semi switch which comes before the automatic switch and unload on those people...Where is the justice there.....?

RPICHARDO, the detail of the safety switch is a key element to this tragedy. Either he didn't have it in the correct position on the begining, or he changed the position during the event. Either way, I hope the justice can act correctly in this case.

thanks you rpichardo for an enlightening article.

Haitians will take advantage from this event......................................

No matter how many commissions they form or if the soldier that did the misdeed gets punished, as long as the army maintains a free admittance as a recruitment policy, incidents like this will keep being our everyday bread. As in the case of the priesthood, a large chunk of the recruits of the armed forces hail from the forgotten sectors of dominican society (impoverished peasants from the interior, people from the barrios, and the like), who more often than not find themselves regarding the army as the means to escape poverty, disregarding the responsabilities and duties that come along with the uniform and the guns, responsibilities and duties that should include the caution of only using deadly force as a last resort (as in being answered with fire to an order to halt, a thing that shines by its absence on the current case).

only an investigation will reveal the truth.... if conducted in good faith.... the rabble rousers will eloquently paint a sorry picture regardless of the facts that is their style....making trouble their goal and their only goal....until there is serious problems...Do not let this happen no matter how many times they drag the name of justice through the mud....they want chaos not justice

This is a tragedy that happens all the damn time and unfortunately will continue to happen. As mentioned the people with the guns are from impoverish backgrounds and barely literate and are under paid which is a combination of corruption on the border. Let's hope a fair investigation takes place although I have my doubts that justice will be served. It's imperative that Haiti re-instates the army to monitor the border.

I agree with you Jabao...The border is a place where corruption and vice runs high. Haiti needs to reinstate the army to have "hopefully" some kind of law and order overthere. Now, if Charlito Baker was President he would be working on this. Preval doesnt' seem to be working on this issue at all.

Haitians complaining about the "Border"......................This is really funny

3 generals to investigate this incident shows that we are serious about this tragedy incident that leave a woman death and likely a soldier in jail, lets way for the investigation to come out and let blame fall where they may.

I see accidental gun shotsssssss, come on people lets think wisely. that soldier should be fire and lock up some where.

Annette Joazard is the name of the haitian women that was shot dead according to him accidently and also her campanion was injured. Ms. Joazard was also pregnant and was accuse by the CESFRONT officer of her campanion carrying gas in a container. This guys story sounds so terrible and has cause tension at the border. Haitian government will start deporting illegal dominicans if their papers arent in order and Ouanamithiens are seeking justice for Annette. According to information the guard was taken out of his post. For gringos in that region please becareful...