So the question is: who contracted these hitmen? They didn't come out of thin air. Someone obviously provided them with a target and the logistics to pull it off. Again, who or whom? If Mr. Castillo was able to identify the nationality of the contracted hitmen, or hitman, then he obviously knows more then he's letting on.

I don’t know... but I have doubts about Mr. Vin-cho. Someone big is sponsoring drug trafficking in DR. Mr. Vin-cho is a big man who knows too much about drugs but he never contribute anything positive about it.

Someone big is helping Colombian, Venezuelan and other southern country use DR as a bridge to transport drug to US and EU. They are so big that no one is going to stop this from happening.

Whomever is doing this love money so much that don't care about our nation, doesn’t care about the people. In hell they all will die.

If Vinicio Castillo is correct ( i have not reasons the think otherwise), Then it is time for the dominican immigration department to take this matter seriously.

I also question the wisdom of allowing colombian citizens to enter Dominican territorry without visa. Let me make it clear, I AM NOT saying that all colombians are involved ( or that they are the only one committing crimes in Dominican). However, it is not a secret that Colombia is probably the most violent country in our hemisphere. They have being killing each others for generations. There is not end on sight to the brutality going in Colombia. It is also known that Dominican Republic is being use by colombian citizens to transporte narcotics to USA and Europe.

I never critize the dominican goverment. But this is one instance when our goverment must explain the wisdom of allowing easy colombian entry into Dominican Republic.

If Vinicio Castillo is correct. Then DR is in serious trouble.
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Continuation.....

Finally, Being Mr. Vinicio Castillo the "Presidency's Narcotics Adviser", I wonder if he took the time to inform the presidency office before making public his denounce. If so, what's beind done about it.

If for any reason, his advises are not being taken into account by the goverment. Maybe it is time for him to resign. Probably the DEA u other competitive law enforcement agency could better use Mr. Vinicio Castillo knowdlege.

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There is no evidence that the Columbian Government is supporting the Drug Cartels" in Columbia.
Their military pursued the FARC, a know Drug Cartel Surporter, into Equador andkilled quite a few of them, including one of the "higher-ups' in the movement.
The Equadoran Government as well as Venezuela have moved troops (10 Battilions of Venezuelan troops) to the border and now are threatening Columbia for "violation of Equador's soverignty" by their actions insted of giving support to that nation's efforts in fighting the rebels.
Evidently, both countries are taking advantage of this incursion to start a war
It must be said that both Equador and Venezuela have supported the Che Guvera's FARC movement in Columbia, and by doing so, have given supportto the Drug Cartels.
So who is right and who is wrong?
Time for the OAS and the UN to show some guts and nip this in the bud before all of South America is in flames over political and economic philosophical differences.

TB

"..and now are threatening Columbia for "violation of Equador's soverignty" by their actions insted of giving support to that nation's efforts in fighting the rebels."

ColOmbia did violate Ecuador's sovereignty TB. The Colombian Armed Forces conducted a military attack on foreign soil without any warning or permission from that foreign government in total violation of international law. It doesn't matter who the recipients of said attack were or did, the fact remains that Colombia's armed forces acted outside of their jurisdiction and the Ecuadorian government has every right to denounce these actions.

If Mexico's armed forces followed drug traffickers or guerrillas into Texas and bombed them from the air while said traffickers or guerrillas were squarely located on US soil what do you think the American reaction would be? Pleasantries would cease between the US and Mexico, to say the least. I don't understand why some would deny the nations of this earth the most fundamental right of self determination as to what transpires and what should be accepted within their borders.

"Time for the OAS and the UN to show some guts and nip this in the bud before all of South America is in flames over political and economic philosophical differences."

Agreed. The OAS and the UN should issue resolutions condemning Colombian aggression against the national territory of one of its neighbors.

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This is a very serious "Problema" for DR.

Cibaino;

Mexican Military are alreaddy making minor incursionsinto US erritory along theArizona Border with Mexico. The US has "protested such incursions to Mexico City to no avail. In addition Mexican Citizens are using firearms, rocks, etc. against US Border Patrol Agents. Just what do you think would happen should the Border Patrol use "Deadly Force" in defense of themselves and to protect the Border against such intrusions? HUH??
Mexico would no doubt take theincident to the UN and demand appropriate actions against the US for protecting it's sovereignty against Mexico's "poor defenseless citizens".
BS, BS, BS.
If Mexico did, in fact use such force as you represent, the US would probably raise hell in public while patting Mexico on the back for FINALLY acting agressively against the "drug Traffickers" and/or "terriorists". So far Mexico has done nothing significant to stop the trafficking of drugs into the porous US Border. The "Porous Border" is the fault of the US, BTW.

You're getting off tangent here TB. I mentioned aerial bombings eminating from Mexico to illustrate an agravated form of incursion as in the colombo-ecuadorian case. Nothing of the sort has ever occured and I doubt that US officials, or the American people for that matter, would look the other way if it did. With that said, if the US wants to have lax borders or otherwise with Mexico, that's the perogative of the US government and its people and no one else. The same with Ecuador. If no go ahead was given to the Colombian government to stage military operations on ecuadorian soil then ecuador should excercise her rights as a sovereign nation to rectify what its government obviously sees as a serious problem and to prevent such actions from occuring again.

DR is getting very shady with this deported illegal immigrants who are living in DR and continuing the drug business they were deported for in the U.S. and Europe. IT's sad to see that these people care continuing to floursih in DR were there is little viglience. They will prosper tremendoudly there aas they continue to distribute drugs amongst the poor en los barrios. IT will be hard to confront this problem especially since everyone wants money. Cops will be paid off and some officials are involved in the ordeal so it makes it tough to stop flow of drugs. I agree Colombians, you like it or not should not be allowed to enter DR without a visa.

They are known for being a large distributors of drugs all over the world. Also, Venezuela and Ecuador are aiding the FARC to continue it's drug cartels. Hugo CHavez benefits from the cartels as Colombia continues to be unstable beacuse of this. I question CHavez, he lookes like the second coming of Castro but in disguise. He uses his oil to his advantage to lure in support. We have to be very careful. It seems like the world is becoming more unstable with people who have been oppressed finaly speaking out against the oppressors but going about in a violent way. No one cares about anyone anymore and that is very scary

ny4life;
I agree with your assessment of Chavez & Company.
And, YES, cibaeno, I agree that both Equador and Venezuela have thelegal right to protect their sovereignty against agression.
In this case, Iagree that Columbia was totally incorrect in whatthey did.
The point I was really trying to make, I guess, is that these three countries have been at odds with each other for a long time. Both Equador and Venezuela have "Left Leaning " governments and have given overt support to the FARC guerillos for years. The FARC movement has made use of theDrug Trade to finance their rebellion against teh"Right Leaning" Columbian Government, so it stands to reason that both Equador and Venezuela will use any excuse to chastize Columbia, either militarily or diplomaticaly, whichever is most convenient to them.
For those readons, I feel that this is rightly in the sphere of the OAS and the UN to step in and call for cooler heads in the dispute.

The main point that I wish to make is that Columbia was pursuing those elements, using Equadoran territory as a haven for operations into Columbia. Columbia saw an opportunity to chastize them militarily anddid so, killing a few of their high up leaders and inflicting severe damage on their positions.
The thing is, Equador knew they were there and has done nothing to curtail their rebellious activities in Columbian territory.
It looks very much like a "set-up" job that backfired and hurt the rebels, now Equador is pi$$ed over the turn of events along with Venezuela.
As to Chavez, he is itching for a fight of some kind to further reinforce his hold on the country and by manufacturing an excuse.
This guy's actions are going to have severe consequences for the Northern South American States if he doesn't settle down and quit his "sabre rattling". he has a very bellicose attitude toward all but his immediate Socialist allies.

TB


TB

How selfish we are. It amazes me to see how politicans continue to be corrupt and not serve there people. Money talks I guess. That's why Venezuela and Ecuador continue to support the FARC. It's a damn shame. When will politicans realize that their job is to serve the people in their country and not benefit themselves. It's the same issue all over the world but becomes very noticeable in third world Latin American where violence, strikes, poverty, lack of transportation, corruption, diseases, bad healthcare, immigration, etc are at the forefront of issues continuously plaguing these latin american countries. When will these countries have the will-power to step up and denounce corruption which is the root of all evil.

Not even Vincho believes his own lies.

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This was an inside job, no one will fly from Colombia to kill a Second lieutenant. Most likely this was done by Dominicans. The Drug Czar its distracting everyone with his usual "Fabulas".

Dr's Drug Trafficking its getting out of control. We will see many more of this type of executions. Unless a true commitment its enforced against "Drugs", nothing will be different at DR, Business as Usual.

I ask myself, Who would like to join DNCD lines lately ??

bill please stop spelling Colombia as Columbia that is Columbia pictures or British Columbia the country is with O....sorry to have to point this out

Unfortunately, these hitmen have intelligence and take care of those that are trying to do there jobs in eradicating the drug issue. The drug cartels have infiltrated the high up and have a green light to keep there business flowing. Hispaniola is the best place logistically and socially to set up shop due to corruption. If this problem isn't resolved within a year the violence well escalate to extreme measures.

In regards to Colombia violating the treaties with the neighbour Ecuador, they have finally taken charge rather then treat this defacto communism turned narcotraffics as some establish group fighting for a cause. I think Correa is simply using this excuse a political mainoeuvre in order for the FARC to seek refuge. Chavez once again is meddling into affairs that doesn't concern him. If the documents on Rual's hard drive appear to true. Ecuador & Venezuela should face the maximum penalty for harboring terrorist rebels. I say good job Colombia..finally we see someone serious about expelling these ratones out of Colombia's amazon. On another note...Sorry, Ingrid Betancourt, will pay for this and her release is out of the question same goes for the americans in hostage..Hey, a few lives for the betterment of Colombia in general was a great move by the Colombian government..Queremos paz..

As distasteful as this maneuvre by Uribe might have been, I can't help but agree with that decision because, let's be serious, it's a no brainer that, had he gone asking Correa for approval, Uribe would have incurred on a grievous delay, giving the rebels a better chance for defending themselves, or worse, fleeing from the scene. The only thing that it's left for the Colombian government now is to determine the scope of the alliance between FARC-Chavez-Correa. Was it a passive support (allowing the FARC to use Venezuelan-Equatorian territory) or a full blown conspiracy (financial and logistics aid, lending of troops and supplies, etc.)? That's the question.

Colombia was wrong, they violated international law no matter how one looks at the situation. Since it holds military superiority over the Ecuadorians I'm sure that the Colombians weren't to worried about any blowback from that direction. It's been known for some time that FARC rebels also use the jungles of venezuela which are adjacent to colombian territory as hiding grounds. The colombians know this but I doubt very much that they would dare pull such a stunt on venezuelan territory similiar to the one they committed on ecuadorian territory. The venezuelan armed forces can definitely make themselves felt in a way that I doubt the colombians wish to experience first hand.

Lautaro, I couldn't agree with you more. Colombia's government has been dealing with FARC for many decades and finally had a chance to cut off one of the heads. They didn't kill any Ecuadorians only invaded there territory I think 10 kilometers in disposing of these vermins. They are such a farse claiming to be for the people and cause displacement, force colombian peasants to cultivate coco farms and created a culture of violence in that beautiful country. The mainoeuvre of not putting troops at the venezuelan border in response to Hugo Chavez troops is brilliant. Besides USA is itching to get rid of him. This would be a very justifiable reason to go after Hugo Chavez without an outcry from the international community. USA has spent billions in "Plan Colombia", there isn't any in hell they aren't going to reap that money back some how. Isn't there enough FARCS dealing in Haiti/DR to get this kind of funding. Im just worried about "todo muerto es bueno".

Please read my post. Venezuela's president would be disposed b4 colombians could say "ave maria puesh". Your adopted country USA has too much money in colombia to allow a communism ideologist such as Chavez to destabalize Colombia. Ecuadorian government has issues as if how deep in bed they were in with the FARC than worry about territory breach. The international community is condemning Colombia for such a great military move but none offer help nor funding to combat these terrorist. They aren't your typical campesinos mad at the government for not giving them light. Colombians are fanatics and believe in there ideologies.

Oh wow, excuse me for not being on the same level as the enlightened colombians, possessors of the most violent society in the western hemisphere by far and indeed one of the most violence prone societies in modern history. That's an intellectual wave length that they can keep to themselves and that you can marvel at on your own jabao. If colombia riles it's neighbors to battle it will indeed recieve aid from the US, but to what extent? The US military is currently overstretched and involved in other engagements in case anyone hasn't noticed. It was indeed a brilliant move for the colombian armed forces to stand down to the mobilization occuring on their borders because if they can't handle an insurgency that has no air support and has been in its bossom for generations now how do they expect to fair against venezuela's professional and modern armed forces?

I see you edited your comment Jabao. Like the commercial here in the states with the bee says: A wise choice.

PS the US already tried to overthrow Chavez from within and failed. That's not to say that they can't succeed in some near future, only that it doeasn't seem that they'll have an easy time going about it.

Cibaeno, indeed colombians have face alot of problems and are known for the violent acts but there is two side to the coin. They are passionate and love their country for good and bad just like haitians. Not to compare but colombia is way ahead of DR in just about every realm besides the violence which unfortunately have been rising in the DR. Just as my country always get a bad rap they have many places where FARC is something they hear on TV. Anyway, im sure if one of them read your post they will clarify the misconceptions. Regarding USA having troops tied up in Iraq, they can easily demand Fernandez to help them on this mission. The venezuelians colombo relationship reminds me of the dominico-haitiano's. All talk and pounding on the chest and later lay in bed with each other. Chavez, just wants to be heard and knows better. Does he? So are you a communist? I say great job colombia and more of this should be done then negotiating with commies/narcotrafikkers.

Could it be that Bush once again is using a proxy to give it a reason to take Venezuelas oil. It's been predicted that Bush would attack both Iran and Venezuela for their oil for a looonnnng time. North Korea can send missles over Japan and the US blinks and rebels in Africa can murder hundreds of thousands and it blinks. Oil, gentlemen, that's the game here. You will see in the coming months before the next election that Bush will try to invade Venezuela for their oil fields. This incursion came at a time where time is running out for Bush to achieve one of his objectives. To acquire as many oil fileds as possible.
Do you really think that for the last 50 years that the Colombian Government hasn't been controlling the Cocaine industry. That's what most of the civil war in Colombia has been about. Control. BIG money industry, COCAINE.

Just like Vietnam wasn't at all for Communism but also for control of the Herion trade within the Golden Triangle, which included Vietnam and alas Afganistan. In the next coming months you will see Colombia "used" to escalate the issue so that the US can come to it's "aid". This is the second coming of Iraq and the "weapons of mass destruction" hoax.

another graduate of the "Grassy Knoll School of Thought "rears his twisted mind.....".all of latin America is like a stalker they have pictures of U.S.A. all over their bedroom wall.....But U.S.A. does not even know they exist"

I'm not a communist or a communist sympathizer. I do, however, sincerely believe that the sovereignty of all nations should be respected. I would argue for the right of Ecuador to secure what transpires within her borders as I would for the Haitian state's right to secure what transpires in its respective border. With that said, are you comparing the violence in Colombia to the wave of delinquency being experienced in DR in recent years? Be serious. You'll never hear stories of whole villages of Dominicans being slaughtered by roving paramilitaries or of car bombs killing and maiming dozens in Santiago's center.

go back to the Violencia in 1952..... 500,000 died..... Bogota looked like Dresden

To get off tangent here just a little...A history professor in college brough up an interesting theory with respect to Colombia (it wasn't his originally but he was the conduit through which I first heard it). His whole thing was that out of all the Latin Republics of appreciable size Colombia's was the only one were the central government did not subjegate its regions completely to its authority. It never produced the type of totalitarian despots typical of other Latin nations because it lacked the cohesiveness of a truly centralized state. That was a plus side of this phenomenon. The downside was that the regionalism typical of all latin nations took on whole new proportions in colombia and helps explain why the federal government in colombia has been somewhat prostrate when dealing with its insurgency and a host of other problems succesfully. Of course this is an oversimplification of my old professor's assesment of Colombian history but I just thought I'd through that out there.

Cibaeno,

There is know way in hell I can compare the violence of Colombia to the violence in the DR nor Haiti. I concur that sovereignty should be respected. But as a head of state that is supposedly oppose of FARC and have confess of not harboring them shouldn't go to the extreme as Correa has. As head of state they have the responsiblity to resolve this issue thru international court where colombia would be obliged to pay monetary damage and breaching border treaties. The FARC has been playing hide in seek games with the colombian government and should be dealt b4 more sympathizers come to their side. Now to bring this closer to home do you know how many colombian cartels call Haiti/DR home and are starting their hitman violent acts here. AFter all, we have to say our condolescence to Jimenez and hope his killers are captured..don't hold your breath. Haiti since two years have required colombian nationals visa. Why did DR lift their visa restriction?

Let's not stigmatize the whole colombian population but Im always skeptical of those I find living in Haiti/DR. Although many come here for a short period of time b4 finding a way into the USA. I am opposed of those that are giving the people of colombia a bad name. There is no way in hell that Haiti/DR can counter these narcotraffickers. I wonder why Jimenez was targeted? Yes colombia is very regionalism like every country and plays a role of the laissez faire attitude. Uribe himself has been accused of connection with the infamous Pablo Escobar who helped him get his fathers body from FARC. I say this is personal for him and it's about time. I wish them the best to end this peacefully as possible.

Actually, the form of government in Colombia is that of a presidential (or unitarian) republic, mr. cibaeño, the federalist form of government being abolished when the conservatives took power on extended periods of time in the late 1800's. The only countries of South America currently having a federalist government being Venezuela, Brazil and Argentina. Now, on the topic at hand, the genesis of the Colombian civil conflict can be traced on the assassination of the liberal presidential candidate Jorge Eliecer Gaitan on April 9, 1948, which was carried out by conservative partisans. With that assassination, some sectors of the liberal party understood that the conservative establishment would not allow a reformation of the economic conditions of the country by pacific means, which would prompt them to quit the liberal party and form the guerrillas as a way to conquer the political power of the country in order for them to carry out their agenda of economic reform (cont...)

(cont...) When the conservative sectors of the colombian society got wind of their mistake and tried to relinquish some of their political power to the liberals, it was already too late to remedy things.

This DNCD agent's murder was an inside DNCD job whereas he came upon a program to recycle confiscated drugs. Here, the Columbian hit-man is only a decoy where we all think it makes sense but he is just a scapegoat to cover-up the internal RD corruption among officials.

Secretly, many are grateful for Columbia's efforts to continue hot pursuit of terrorists, drug smugglers & criminals but in public I will say it was the wrong thing to do (while patting them on the back behind close doors). Don't compare the same scenario of the Mexican authorities in hot pursuit on American soil because this is stupid! First, the US is not a safe-haven for criminals nor terrorists.

Everyday Chavez has a choice to invade Columbia and teach them a lesson but even he is not that stupid! Why? Because he knows that George Bush is saying: "Go ahead and make my day!" BTW, where is Saddam? Where?.

So like cibaeño75, Chavez will make complaints on twisted logic but DO NOTHING! The End.

Lautaro, by federal I mean centralized..any government where the executive is the most powerful of the three branches of government could be interpreted as a "federal" sate. Colombia's penchance for violence and instability predates Gaitan, by the way. As for my analogy involving mexico and the US it was to merely demonstrate how such actions would be perceived by a certain society, in this case that of the US. As for the US not being a haven for terrorists, I suggest you google Luis Posada Carriles and educate yourself.

i guess nobody saw it

but we have:
7 shots
1 columbian hitman


it is better for that guy to never return to colombia
you hardly can call this hitman ...

i thought cook money gave quality service

LOL@joop2

This DNCD agent's murder was an inside DNCD job whereas he came upon a program to recycle confiscated drugs. Here, the Columbian hit-man is only a decoy where we all think it makes sense but he is just a scapegoat to cover-up the internal RD corruption among officials.

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I cannot agree more with JD Dominguez !!!!

Very smart from Vincho to focus everyones atttention to a fictional character !!!!

Everybody looking at the wrong place ?

Not exactly, mr. cibaeño. If you have read the history of Brazil, you'd find that the ex-slavocrat oligarchy adopted the federal arrangement (or patrias) because it would allow them to hold the executive power on check, as opposed to the former imperial status quo, in which the executive power (the emperor) held almost all the political power of the country, with the army as the executors of his commands. On the matter of Luis Posada Carriles, I agree with you that he's no better than a lowlife criminal, but you have to take into account that the regime that he's fighting against is equality guilty of commiting terrorist acts (the history of the Cuban intervention on the conflicts in Africa and Central America during the Cold War is a proof of this).

federalism can mean different things in different contexts and as such we can go back and forth..my whole point was that the central government in bogota never excercised the type of control over it's population than, say, caracas has had through much of venezuela's history. With that said, can you honestly sit wherever you are and defend the figure of Posada Carriles? The man blew up a commercial airliner with nearly a 100 innocent paasangers aboard and enjoys impunity on US soil! That's just disturbing on so many levels.

cibaeño75

This would never work in South America, very simple.

Perception, ???

I'm not defending him, I'm just saying that the cuban regime (while having accomplished many things that I applaud), is no innocent lamb either. If we're going to condemn terrorism, we have to condemn all the parties involved, even if we find ourselves sharing the ideals of one of them. This also applies to state-sponsored terrorism, a branch in which the US, for our eternal shame, finds itself being the champion of.

oohkaay..but..we were talking about the US harboring terrorists...what does supposed state sponsored terrorism emanating from Cuba have to do with the fact that a known terrorist is living here in the states free as a bird? Even if Cuba is responsible for state sponsored terrorism as you allege (may I suggest Rogue Sate by Blum so as to advance your understanding of state sponsored terrorism as far as Cuba is concerned) does that mean that the US should allow such an individual to walk amongst its citizens, an individual that the US state dep. itself categorized as "an admitted mastermind of terrorist plots and attacks", that it somehow justifies Posada Carriles' bombing and murder of "57 Cubans, 11 Guyanese, and five North Koreans....among the dead were all 24 members of the 1975 national Cuban Fencing team that had just won all the gold medals in the Central American and Caribbean Championship; many were teenagers."? C'mon Lautaro! Are you serious!

Posada Carriles is indeed a no good criminal that killed innocent people. Unfortunately, he will never face justice in a courtroom because he is on the right side of the fence & obviously has american in high places supporting his act as patriotism. We all know that his senseless act was a criminal terrorist plot but again where one has backing the once terrorist is viewed as a heroe. Think of Christopher Columbus as the greatest while many indigenous and africans might think otherwise. My analogy is to depict the acts of individuals as just or not. I would hate to have been the parents of the people that died.

How many hi jackers.............murderers.....have been given safe haven in cuba......let me tell you of one in particular....his name is Ismael Labeet....brains and ringleader behind Fountain Valley massacre in 1972....15 people machine gunned 8 die in club house of golf course on the neighboring island of St Croix......poor guy sued his guards for mistreatment... was returned from federal prison from serving many life sentences to the court case for mistreatment.....poor guy then hi jacks American airlines return flight to U.S.A. in 1985.....any way just one among hundreds of weatherman bombers ,swindlers and various murderers....please Cuba is largest gulag in world with palm trees....sing its praises because he stood up to uncle sugar only shows how dumb you are STALKERS

gouletcolonial, how does cuba's harboring of terrorists validate the same actions from Washington? I'm obliged to ask you that because your last comment insinuates that it does. And who on this thread was singing Cuba's praises? All I saw was justifiable condemnation of Posada Carriles.

The fact is that it is the US government that is waging a supposed "War on Terror" and has used the harboring of alleged terrorists as a pretext for invasion but this very same government turns around and gives safe haven to a known terrorist. It's insane to say the least.

I dont remember that one ...".harboring terrorist" invasion.....was that after Panama or before Grenada

Harboring terrorists...that was the pretext used to invade Afghanistan...how soon we forget.

pretext......you said it all.....where do you live ? they should restart the draft

getting back to the original thread. You have to have a major investigation into the death of this agent?

cibaeno thinks the C.I.A. did it probably or the D.E.A. some cockeyed conspiracy deal it was W and his lies again from the grassy knoll.....or it was Americas fault because they do all the drugs ....stalkers

gouletcolonial, don't put words in my mouth. You're not coming off as funny or witty. You're actually coming off as quite foolish and childish. Again, I rack this up to your inability to debate with concrete facts and information.

pretext.......shame shame......I am from the pinata school of debating ...and you are an easy target

getting back to the original thread. You have to have a major investigation into the death of this agent?

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Most likely we are not going to find out what happen with those death or any other related to "Drug Trafficking". Its been a week so far and no clues who & why those agents dye, DR its better off hiring a mercenary forces to combact traffickers, since they don't have nothing to loose down there when done with their jobs.

incidentally oscar .....talking about living as free as a bird that is something you cannot due in your favorite place...cuba.....there is a bus leaving in 15 minutes......be under it

perceptive one..... this will be swept under the rug like the aviation official .....dont you agree

".....talking about living as free as a bird that is something you cannot due in your favorite place...cuba....."

LOL..isn't cuba one of YOUR favorite places? It must be seeing as how you commented on another thread how beautiful Havana is and insinuated how Santo Domingo pales in comparison to the before mentioned city. It's just plain hypocritical for someone who's helped to prop up the Cuban government through their tourist dollars to then turn around and criticize it once abroad again. You shouldn't have gone there in the first place if your convictions are so firm. No, goulet, I won't be under a cuban bus anytime soon but you'll probably be on one! I for one despise all forms of dictatorships, Cuba's included.

cibaeño75

This is not about liking or waning to live at Cuba. For the better part they went through a mayor over-haul under imposition. And like it or not, they are 1000 times better prepare to confront the future as been proven by social-economics theorist. If you ever had the opportunity to receive lectures on economics, you’ll know what I’m talking about, if not, then get informed. Capitalism its the “final stage” of a country growth, and “most likely”, through time its certain to end in “Chaos” not to mention “Monopoly”.

I haven’t met anyone yet who wants to go thru with it, its always better to fish in troubled waters, like DR’s.

Gouli, Yes most likely this agents dead will never be solved, like everything down there. That’s why I compare DR with a “Jungle”. Not to say that many things suck elsewhere, but a least if you have a problem, you know where to addressed it !!!

"This is not about liking or waning to live at Cuba."

How'd you extract this from my comments? I suggest you read my posts again perception. You're getting me confused with another poster or misunderstanding my comments all together.

talking about living as free as a bird that is something you cannot due in your favorite place...cuba....."

LOL..isn't cuba one of YOUR favorite places? It must be seeing as how you commented on another thread how beautiful Havana is and insinuated how Santo Domingo pales in comparison to the before mentioned city

I was answering to our fellow commentator's diatribe about cuba being my favorite place and insinuations that I somehow sympathize with the cuban regime (wrong on both counts by the way) and I proceeded to point out to our fellow commentator that the only one who has indicated an affinity for cuba was he himself (in another thread) . As the before mentioned commentator has implicated himself as having visited Cuba (this according to a post on another thread) I then proceeded to point out to them the hypocrisy of their actions and words. I didn't make any commentary per se on cuban society until the last few posts were I have indicated that I do not sympathize with the regime now in power in cuba. Hope I cleared up any misunderstandings for you, perception.