An IL-62, a Russian jetliner, Cubana could do better than that, they should lease an Airbus or two, thats what some of new airlines of the former soviet states are doing.

The DR's emergency preparedness is really on the ball. Good job.

So, a flight leaves Las Americas at around 2:09 PM, hmm.

Lunatics or terrorists in Miami will take note, to be sure. Of course, the US lunatics already knew about the flight. US lunatics enjoy blowing up passenger jets in midair. The US regime under Bush pardons, protects, and honors the US lunatics or terrorists who blow up civil aviation planes.

Belial, are you talking about that Cuban-American Alpha-66 guy that blew up the Cubana airliner in the 1970's? the fact that the State Department let him back in the U.S. and the Department of justice decided not to prosecute this guy, who is by anyone's interpretation, a mass murderer, is a true disgrace!

Belial is as always in his own dreamworld seeing demons behind every "BUSH".

Problem with the Russian Planes are that they were poorly put together like everything that ever came out of a communist country because the workers didn't give a crap and that these planes are older than my grandmother for heavens sake. . That is why communism FAILED although some people still don't get it and why not is truly beyond comprehension.

When you board these planes which I of course have it is like being thrown back to the early 50's. If I had it to do all over again I would have flown on Copa through Panama and felt better about it.

I guess Airbus is all that is available to Cuba to buy or lease anyway because Boeing won't do business with the Cuban Government. I don't even know if a company would lease to them as the risk is very big.

To the TWO of you and all who agree with your statements.

You people are entirely too selective about what you comment on!
You totally ignore the mass murder of El Quieda, Hamas, Hezbolla, Talliban and the Sadr milllitants while falsefying the evidence otherwise produced by fellow travellers of those murdering scum.
By doing so, you are no better than they are and in fact are just as guilty of perpetrating these crimes against humanity as they are.
You all continue to produce false evidence designed to mislead the readership in order to vilefy those with whom you are jealously opposed simply because they possess the capability to amass financial independence where you can't because you don't have the ambition to do so.
Quit playing the same broken record over and over and face the realities of life and successful living.
You are so full of hate and viciousness that you wouldn't recognize a real human being under any circumstances.

TB

thanks Bill for putting to words my feelings

"You all continue to produce false evidence.."

What false evidence, TB? The cuban that both posters are referring to, Posada Carriles (let's call him by his name), is indeed guilty of the crimes attributed to him by the posters here. The man orchestrated a plot that resulted in the death of 73 innocent airline passengers. It's all a matter of public record. Even the US Justice Department has reffered to his person as "an admitted mastermind of terrorist plots and attacks". It matters little, though, as Posada Carriles has been free to enjoy his life in the US as a result of his connections to american intelligence organizations and the very influential cuban-american lobby. A communist, or communist sympathizer, I am not but I find it troubling and highly hypocritical that a nation that is waging a supposed war on terror would itself harbor a terrorist.

"Belial, are you talking about that Cuban-American Alpha-66 guy that blew up the Cubana airliner in the 1970's? the fact that the State Department let him back in the U.S. and the Department of justice decided not to prosecute this guy, who is by anyone's interpretation, a mass murderer, is a true disgrace!"

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zak325, that's it.

But there two big guys, not one -- Luis Posada and Orlando Bosch

Posada bragged to the NY Times in 1997 that he and Bosch masterminded the 1976 bombing of the Cuban airliner off the coast of Barbados that murdered 73 people.

So, George H. Bush promptly pardoned Bosch who resided in the USA during Bush Sr.'s regime.

During Bush Sr.'s regime, Posada resided mostly in Guatemala.

Posada returned to USA in 2005 during the current Bush Jr. regime. Posada was arrested by the laws but Bush Jr. told the laws to let Posada go because Posada is well-liked in South Florida.

So, you see how the lunatics and terrorists in the USA behave.

not a communist sympathizer .....practically everyone of your posts is out of deep left field .....maybe not out there where the buses dont run like belial....but you are a big time lefty

Regardless of how you feel about my politics goulet that doesn't change the fact that the US is harboring a known terrorist and I find it disturbing that some posters would come on here in an attempt to mislead the public on this issue. It happened. It's part of the historical record. Anyone with a computer can google Luis Posada and get plenty of information on his misdeeds from sites that are anything but leftist. The quote I attributed to the US justice department in reference to Posada can also be looked up. I invite all those who wish to know about this shameful episode in US domestic policy to do their own research, don't just take TB's, goulet's, belial's, or cibaeño's word for it.

"Problem with the Russian Planes are that they were poorly put together like everything that ever came out of a communist country because the workers didn't give a crap and that these planes are older than my grandmother for heavens sake," a less perceptive poster opined.
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But in the USA:

"April 12, 2008, American Airlines canceled more than 3000 flights this week because of safety inspections ordered by the Federal Aviation Administration."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89583845

oooo

The same thing anecdotally:

CUSTOMER AT TICKET COUNTER:Do you fix your planes when they're broken?

TICKET SALESPERSON: No madam, we don't bother, as a cost-cutting move.

CUSTOMER AT TICKET COUNTER:To lower ticket prices?

TICKET SALESPERSON: "No, to increase profits."

I did not know about this, Thanks belial, cibaeño, zak325

Please excuse Billcolonial , he is probably not familiar with Google search, here you Gran pa, just left click the links letters below.

The Bush dynasty and the Cuban criminals
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/dec/02/usa.books

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada_Carriles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Bosch

Terrorisim is terrorisim, armed attacks on unarmed civilians should be condemned no matter who the victims or the perpetrators are. Hamas firing rockets at Israeli towns is terrorisim, attacking IDF soldiers is combat. The September 11th attacks were terrorist mass murder, a roadside bomb in Iraq is combat. If someone wants to bring down the Castro regime, they should take on the Cuban military directly, not bomb civilian airliners and hotels.

heres a google about a convicted murderer note the word convicted murderer Ishmael La beet who is now a resident of cuba.....how about it .....convicted murderer.........................Ishmael Labeet

goulet, I agree with you in that cuba is harboring her share of criminals. A few cop killers and bank robbers come to mind. No one is condoning that, at least I'm defeinitely not. It still doesn't provide any sort of excuse for the US government to provide sanctuary to a known terrorist.

not convicted ...........known means accused......convicted is convicted

"heres a google about a convicted murderer note the word convicted murderer Ishmael La beet who is now a resident of cuba.....how about it .....convicted murderer.........................Ishmael Labeet," screams the resident nut of the DT message board.

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Exchange him for Posada and Bosch.

The non-conviction of monsters like Posada and Bosch for their numerous terrorist crimes shows that the conviction or non-conviction of an individual in a US jurisdiction says nothing about the merits of the case against individual, either way.

no but I lived 10 years in St Croix and was there when he hijacked flight to cuba you creep

he ruined the economy of St Croix and ruined the lives of the families of the murder victims you creep

"no but I lived 10 years in St Croix and was there when he hijacked flight to cuba you creep"

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Who are you calling a creep?

I have only treated you with the degree of respect you deserve.

For this, you call me a creep?

Clearly, I must decrease the degree of respect, if any, you deserve.

Wiki doesn't have a page on Ishmael Labeet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spec....h?search=Ishmael+Labeet&go=Go

So, we are left with the bigoted guesses of GC, the dog "King" who patrols the Yukon, intended to divert us from the topic of the difficulties of Cuban civil aviation arising from the lunacy and terrorism of Miami reactionary and pro-imperialist scum.

Senor raw sewage apparachik lackey and stooge of the poliburo speak again o ruby lips o toothless one you are seldom kissed and now we know why an education is not for everyone...you are the wanker from Wiki who needs an education in respect for humanity you creep

Woa, 117 passenger, what business brought them here? DT can you get a copy of the the manifest,

How narrow minded can you be? My exact point about U.S. Hypocrisy, and all the idiots that support George Bush. The truth and real color of ignorance and stupidity finally came out of the shadows. Ignorant, stubborn, mooncalf that refuse to accept the TRUTH. How could you condone terrorist actions that caused the death of innocent people because it was against a communist regime. This really shows the lack of caliber and the depth of your ignorance. Posada should have been tried convicted and jailed for the crimes he committed, crimes of terrorism.

".............string them up."

Posada, Bush, Cheney, Rice!

It is honestly a shame you people that "FOLLOW" the misled belial don't see that this article is NOT about the US but about Crappy planes flown by Cuba that were crap when they were new and crap NOW that they are older than dirt.

Belial in his misplaced mind sees this as a problem caused by some person or persons who hijacked or caused the end of a cuban plane 40 freakin years ago.

This silly affected LEFTY who is so crazed continues to turn everything into an arguement about the US when this had absolutely nothing to do with the US.

They should jail him for being such a creep, there must be a law against that!

It is honestly a shame you people that "FOLLOW" the misled belial don't see that this article is NOT about the US but about Crappy planes flown by Cuba that were crap when they were new and crap NOW that they are older than dirt.

Belial in his misplaced mind sees this as a problem caused by some person or persons who hijacked or caused the end of a cuban plane 40 freakin years ago.

This silly affected LEFTY who is so crazed continues to turn everything into an arguement about the US when this had absolutely nothing to do with the US.

They should jail him for being such a creep, there must be a law against that!

Wiki is written by everyone. That creep can quote himself from Wiki.

they follow the imbecile slavishly

You may be right , Belial views may be deranged and leftward falling. Though I don't agree with his views, the idea that someone condones terrorism because of the purpose and the origin, is ludicrous. And the fact they would outright defend this view deserves questioning.

This idea is equivalent to accepting vigilantes to take the laws in their own hands regardless of the consequences. It really gives light to the true color and depth of peoples mentality.

Thats all you can say!

First of all, you are just upset that well off family members ran from Cuba with their tail in their pants. In my prior comments, I gave you the benefit of the doubt by stating:

"you are a bit more intelligent than what your writing indicates"

But I was wrong! Because it's evident you really poses the intelligence of a blooming mooncalf. Why is it that you must criticize anyone who differs from your point of views as if you are the authority and the authoritative compass of the world. Which you are, in your world! You know, I have perused over many of your comments and discovered how mendaciously risible and lacking gravitas they really are.....

Anyone reading them can see you are verdure of envy for your inability to communicate with conviction, definition, afflation, but most importantly substance. My view is, that you are truly nothing more than miniscule subterranean fecal life form wishing to falsely impugn others for their simple views and beliefs. your purpose here is only to emblazon your mediocre, marginal and hollow views.

It has dawned on me that you are really and truly a pure derivative of the social sap of ignorance and stupidity.

By the way, an internet connection and computer doesn't entitle you to participate in intelligent web conversations. Unlike the Dominican political parties and government positions, there is a presumable criteria, you must posses a minimally acceptable level of intelligence or capacity thereof. But then again I seriously doubt you are Dominican you just can't be.

By the way, an internet connection and computer doesn't entitle you to participate in intelligent web conversations. Unlike the Dominican political parties and government positions, there is a presumable criteria, you must posses a minimally acceptable level of intelligence or capacity thereof. But then again I seriously doubt you are Dominican you just can't be.

ladronazo again with your hangups about cubans....why do you feel inferior to them...we are all Gods children....Fidel is not your daddy..... you are so proud of him standing up to the imperialist gringo exploiters....yet you envy the cubans their advantages historic and otherwise....get a life you are just as good as they are

There you go again. Your RD and LD is showing. Stick to the subject. Could care less about Cuban or Americans. Very proud of my Dominican Heritage and wouldn't change it for anything. Don't deviate from the truth. Your views are warped and idiotic. Go support Alpha 66 and make better use of your time. They like fools of your caliber.

If you want I'll hold a fund raiser to help you buy arms and train and fight against Castro. So that once Cuba becomes free you can get your ice cream cart or use it to purchase your own ice cream shop.

Bringing back the original issue, dangerous Soviet-era airliners, this incident will likely spell the end for these museum pieces. As Cuba slowly emerges from the shadows it will have to rebuild it's transportation systems, replacing cattle trucks with Chinese buses is easy, replacing it's airliners will be harder. Cubana would be a logical customer for Boeing jets and would buy them if they could, but because of the embargo this can't happen...yet. The aircraft made by Airbus Industries (EADS), all contain some content of U.S. origin and as such, are subject to the embargo. To the fustration of the Europeans , they cannot sell their jets to Cuba either. It is in Cuba's own interest to ease restrictions on it's people and guarantee basic political rights in order for a new U.S. administration to consider lifting the embargo against Cuba.

ladronazo, absolutely fantastic how you put into words what we all think of...you know whom! I think he may be an exiled Cubanos 'though, who's plantation owner parents fled with 2 suitcases, because he's only into this topic, he claims he lived in Columbia, Spain, Canada, US and now I think he's indulging some poor dominican servant's exploitation... Giving them an "equal democratic chance" for a better life - I'm sure. Somehow all this time,unfortunatelly, it seems like he didn't get a very good education in all the wonderful places he lived, but IQ is something you are born with - some people just don't have it !
Belial,Zak,Cibaeno,time2rize & ladronazo... you guys keep it up, you can think rationally, but these other ones: extremely sad, US brainwashed victims of manufactured consent !!! Unfortunatelly the main stream media made about 85% of the population, superficial & incapable of thinking for themselves ! What's going on backstage is a whole different story...

this last one was me, but the system sometimes does these errors !

"...brainwashed victims of manufactured consent !!! "

The link I'm about to post is from a very recent new york times article and is precisely about just that, manufactured consent stemming from government, sources:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/washington/20generals.html?hp

lorinka has checked in from Canada where he went to pick up and sign his unemployment checks......Good country Canada eh.....remember 1956 when they took in the freedom fighters from Budapest....and now you stab them in the back by talking like a commie,shame on you.....If your mommie only knew.....Back to the subject of the planes they are the same pieces of junk that flew in your homeland Hungary before you escaped to freedom they were unsafe then they are unsafe now

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Written by: cibaeño75, 22 Apr 2008 2:43 PM
From: United States
"...brainwashed victims of manufactured consent !!! "
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Oooh...cibaeño75....you've hit on my area of expertise! Ever read Noam Chomsky's classic on this? You, my friend, are among the brighter lights on here!

If you were a woman I'd marry you! How do you look in a dress?

noam chomsky lefty loser mentor de Hillaria...that says it all...saul alinsky similar loser from the left....read them your wasting your time

goulet...

Ever hear the expression:

Opinions are like noses...everybody's got one and some of them are funny.

" Ever read Noam Chomsky's classic on this?"

Of course..I'm an avid reader of Chomsky's writings.