Why don't you just give them Tanks and Warplanes while you are at it why just stop at firearms

In Texas cattle rustlin' is still a hanging offence and one can LEGALY shoot a rustler on site.

You see these ingrates, not only want to barge into private, sovereign property and demand their rights; They also steal livestock and act like it ain't no thing. See, you give a scalawag an inch and they take a mile. These rascals need to be controlled. They've been getting away with all these offences for too long. Now you have bleedding heart "Invasion Theologists", advocating that these intruders should be fed and clothed. What is the world coming to? Natives don't have welfare benefits; Why should foreigners be provided them? If they were to ask for refugees status, maybe, but by crossing that border by force: You should get a big fat "0". Stop the intrusion at the border. Stop the thievery, the mass influx of peasants looking for a free meal and a hand-out.
We're living in hard times. It's rough all over!

Guns for Farmers???

That will get the Haitian thiefs attention!!!

Hang em high.

Shooting rustlers on sight, and hanging them when caught is the quickest, surest, most just means to tidy up the problem.

It worked in the Great State of Texas. You just need the equivalent of Texas Rangers. One riot, one Ranger- to track them down, and tidy them up.

Why don't you guys hire Chuck Norris.

Ok
Tell me nobody is thinking of the menoplees!

To batguano101:

Be civil - anyone being abusive, calling names or generally trying to stir up trouble will not be tolerated. If you are repeatedly abusive you will be banned from these forums.

You warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws. You also agree to read the posting rules and respect them.

“Guns to Farmers”,
batguano101,
”Shooting rustlers on sight, and hanging them when caught is the quickest, surest, most just means to tidy up the problem.”
To you and all your friends here, remember, those were the same pretexts used in 1937 by Assassin Rafael ‘Hitler’ Trujillo and his accomplices to butcher 50k Haitians at the border. The butchery was first blame on farmers who were defending their cattles, later the truth was revealed it was DR's military that committed the butchery with picks and bayonets from Trujilo’s orders. Today those same tactics and pretexts are being used for another butchery. Balaguer was a disciple of Trujillo, and Fernandez is a disciple of Balaguer, could the same lies be used to repeat history?
When will the Haitians wake up and stand up to this nonsense?

"Balaguer was a disciple of Trujillo, and Fernandez is a disciple of Balaguer"

I haven't been coming to this site for that long but that has to be the funniest thing I have read here!

White- to be sure I do adhere to those very terms, so please be so kind as to point out any such violations, and of course they will be acknowledged, but in fact there are none.

I pose to you sir, the question, why would criminals being brought to justice be an offense to you?
I state the historical, effective and humane way to deal with anarchy, which ends it quickly.

I have seen some promote both anarchy and war between the countries where the criminals hail from and the victims of the crimes against property reside, which is more merciful, the time honored penalty for cattle and horse rustlers to nip that in the bud or what the anarchist propose?

I content fairly that admonitions to lawful enforcement of protection of cattle and horses, the bread of life of the rancher, is a just cause, and criminals protection is not a just cause. This is not a question of rules of conduct here, but of rules of conduct in those ranches being robbed of their way of life and life's work.

oneworldorder-

I declare, if anyone so much as suggests self defense the jump is made to days of old.
Do you suppose it would take the demise of 50K rustlers before the point was make that rustling will not be tolerated?

Sir, you underestimate the intelligence of those doing the rustling.

The absolute most humane way to deal with rustlers is exactly as cited from historical fact.
Upon the swift justice of guilty rustlers I tell you in all honesty, there is very little likelihood of any 50K following their example.

If you posses some hard fact that those doing the rustling have some neurological deficit, some incapacity of reason or learning that would propel them headlong to repeat the errors of others by all means present this now to support your claim 50, 000 would need be so treated for them to forsake those ways for a more wholesome and honest path.

rom-

Chuck Noris would be hard to come by.
He is in fact an actor at that rather than a real live rootin tootin Texas Ranger.
In addition, the History of the Texas Rangers is instruction enough.

There exist within the Dominican Republic, tried and true men of the FA, men who have deployed to war and stood the test. Texas Rangers were never so much appointed but stepped up to the plate when the need arose to be appointed to do special duty. The call of the authorities will bring such men forward based on patriotism and warrior heart alone.

Arsinio-

I see you confuse Christian charity to the poor with lawful merciful punishment of the guilty.
These are different.

As you point out, there are some who speak for the rustlers as if Christian charity applies, and it does not. But let us not forget to be kind enough to offer food to the hungry in our mist who are not thieves or cattle rustlers.

The kindest, most benevolent end to rustling is precisely what I suggest- swift justice.
Although some here believe that masses of people would then commit suicide in that manner unable to see or understand there was no future or profit in it.

I do not agree with that later view but if the number were approaching anywhere near 50k would certainly reconsider the mental capacity of such perpetrators.

Invasion Theology-

I content this to be a false doctrine, with no relationship to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

The applications of guilt or threat of lack of civility to those who advocate swift, merciful justice to cattle rustlers (end their ways) to instruct and admonish others to lawful and wholesome life seek a form of anarchy so foreign to all reason, rule of law, principals of rights of property and security that no defense of justification can be made for them.

This invasion theology is an abomination, insighting insurrection, lawlessness, the overthrow of a nation, and is unpleasant, unbecoming, and silly.

Let those who seek to promote invasion be repentant in the errors of their ways, join hands in lawful and wholesome fellowship to tidy up these pesky rustlers now with swift response that others do not take such a path.

That, gentlemen is a charity and favor to all concerned, nothing less.

Ace Ventura bat + guano = crap???????????????????????? Its just a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol

batguano said: "The applications of guilt or threat of lack of civility to those who advocate swift, merciful justice to cattle rustlers (end their ways) to instruct and admonish others to lawful and wholesome life seek a form of anarchy so foreign to all reason, rule of law, principals of rights of property and security that no defense of justification can be made for them."

I agree with you 100%, one must not confuse charity with carelessness, and if this cattle ranchers are not careful enough, they might be deprived from their means of living, so the only way to deal with these thievery is to act swiftly and without remorse, specially in such a lawless, no man's land place as it is the dominican-haitian border. Christian charity can't and shouldn't be used to as an excuse to let a group of men be deprived of the fruits of their hard work just because other people weren't careful enough not to fall into poverty.

has anyone established, without equivocation ,the nationality of these rustlers? it is reflexive to blame Haitians for everything, but might some Dominicans be tied up in the mess? just food for thought...

It might be, dread, seeing as how that zone is the most impoverished on the entire Republic, its only sources of revenue being the market that is held on Dajabon on mondays and fridays between dominicans and haitians, the cattle ranching activities of those landlords and some minor plots in which some subsistence staples are cultivated. But you have to take into consideration the possibility that the majority of these rustlers might be haitians, since Dajabon has only a population of 10,000 while the town on the other side of the river Massacre (Ouanaminthe) has a population of 100,000; and, seeing the dire situation in which that town finds itself in, it's a given that its citizens are more hard pressed to make ends meet than their dajabonean counterparts. When international institutions talk about Haiti's overpopulation, they're not kidding, you know. Malthus would have a field day analyzing that country if he were alive.

well said, Mr Lautaro. as to Malthus, you are so correct. google Malthus on the internet and you probably get a picture of some Haitian town. with such overpopulation, and so little biosphere , we witness daily the famine conditions of which he spoke so eloquently.

Lautaro:

Mr "WIKIPEDIA" in action trying to unite 2 cultures, well done Mr know everything.

Where are You from in Haiti???

Port au prince????

JRRubirosa is back from vacationing in Haiti.

You're welcome too, Rubi. In fact, where have you been on the last few days? do you were honoring your ancestor don Porfirio practicing your sanky and bootlicking ways? LOL

Oneworld1
"""" When will the Haitians wake up and stand up to this nonsense? """""



What exacly are you suggesting???

A rebellion or for the haitians to get up and leave my country

Carlos-

The correct answer should be the later but the intention appears to be the former.