Photo of the meeting in San Jose, Costa Rica, provided by the Foreign Relations Ministry.
SANTO DOMINGO.- The Dominican and Costa Rican governments agreed to strengthen cooperation in migratory issues and to coordinate action to control prostitution and the traffic of people.
A Dominican delegation visited Costa Rica and met with Interior Ministry officials to draft an agreement that guarantees regular immigration between both countries.
Immigration director Carlos Amarante; Foreign Relations vice minister Rosario Graciano de los Santos and ambassador Adonaida Medina discussed with their Costa Rica pars the arrival of Dominicans to Costa Rica, protected in "marriage of rights or convenience," but soon change to prostitution.
Graciano said the Costa Rican authorities were apprised of the Dominican Police’s investigation in the case and into the network suspected of taking Dominicans to that country.
The Dominican and Costa Rican commissions visited the tourism resort zone at Jaco, and the bars where allegedly dozens of Dominican sexual workers operate, though Graciano said they verified the case had been “exaggerated.”
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
this problem is endemic to the region.....and not just the DR or with women from the DR but this is becoming unfortunate to have this canard repeated over and over ....we are the most populated island with a low standard of living and the ability to Exit when you can buy a ticket ....Also attractive women relative to most of the rest of the Caribbean....If puerto Rico was poor or you could get out of Cuba they would still have this problem as well ...this is a demeaning story about Dominican women ....If any one on this site remembers and will admit to knowing The Black Angus or the Riviera in San juan PR during the 50s 60s and 70s and 80s they can tell you that the international make up of the girls was very diverse and these were very famous Brothels known worldwide
Written by: Jander, 24 Jun 2008 11:14 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Black Angus the stealk house?
Loved those long lay overs in SJ .
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
very funny jander ....do you remember what the sign said above the Riviera on the Marquee ?......a million bucks if you get it right.....the clock is ticking
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Toni Tirsi owned them both what a character...any San Juaneros here ?
Written by: Jander, 24 Jun 2008 3:09 PM
From: Dominican Republic
No idea GC but thats showing your age a bit.
The little info that is out their is that Riviera became a gay bar and Tursi did some some time retired to Nevada and died in 89 .
Written by: Grosero, 24 Jun 2008 3:35 PM
From: United States
Are you people clueless? For some peopl it is the only way to feed and cloth His/Hers family….
I love the way the Costa Rican leave out the fact the Nica’s, Columbiana, and Peruvian, and Panamanian’s work in Jaco for Costa Ricans ( rent is $$$$)
. Get real….. Costa Rica is full of crooks, just like their Government!!!!!....
Just read the AM Costa Rica ....
http://www.amcostarica.com/monday.htmCrooks and lairs....
c
No where do you hear about the little Tica/Tico’s working in the Sex Trade It’s always the bad Dominica’s
…get real…
Is the Dominican Republic's Government going to start training these people for real jobs or is this just more mierda del caballo…..
If you not in the loop and deal with this on a daily bases…then your talking out of you’re a**
Get real
Written by: Escott, 24 Jun 2008 4:16 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera and Sosua a 2 days a month for payday
That message brought to you right from the GOOD OLD US of A.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Jander I am back and thank you for being aware ...the sign said....." Broads Broads Broads and A Steel Band " It was a simpler time that part of San Juan no longer exists
From: Dominican Republic, Montellano
The point is here, no Countries are ever without their own version of stigmas and tarnished reputations. Maybe if we as people in the Latin Americas stop catering to foreigners by offering and allowing them the sexual beauty & Freedom to exploit of our Island Countries when we should rather and instead promoting our cultural beauty and unity that we have as Latin-Americans & Caribbean Islanders.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Partially true connie what you say about " The worlds Oldest Profession " this exists world wide and if I were you I would be careful with that old lefty saw about foreigners....this is a problem of economics not nationality
Written by: Jander, 25 Jun 2008 1:36 AM
From: Dominican Republic
"The point is here, no Countries are ever without their own version of stigmas and tarnished reputations. Maybe if we as people in the Latin Americas stop catering to foreigners by offering and allowing them the sexual beauty & Freedom to exploit of our Island Countries when we should rather and instead promoting our cultural beauty and unity that we have as Latin-Americans & Caribbean Islanders"
Good luck with that!
This starts at the cradle and until Latin Americans can control ithe insatiable urge to procreate then you will just have to accept it as part of the culture.
What I have come to realize here is that the male child is treated like a prince and the female is raised to take care of and please men.
Even the young women who try and earn money the traditional way have at lest one child before they are 18. What chance do they or their children have of a better life.
Everyone likes to blame the government and foreigners rather then take responsibilty.
Written by: Jander, 25 Jun 2008 1:45 AM
From: Dominican Republic
If you are in the capital just drive down the Independencia or the Malecon and you will be hard pressed to find any foreigners solicitating a lady of the evening, it is all locals pulling over in their expensive SUVs.
Of course you have Boca Chica and the northern towns that are full of extranjeros but this is small potatoes compared to the bigger cities that have built miles of Cabana's that are used by locals.
From: Dominican Republic
Tony Tursi did not own the Black Angus, only the Riviera. And yes, I still believe I was a majority shareholder of Riviera stock.
Did I go there a lot? Let's just say I was probably the only kid in the history of the place that had credit with the girls..
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Dixie I hope that was not during the Gay bar era that Jander spoke of but to each his own ....The Angus lasted a little longer but it to went the way of the dodo bird...During the 70s and 80s I was always under the impression it was a tursi joint as well ...I stand corrected...But then again I only drove past those joints on my way to mass
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
I return to my original post concerning the unfair labeling of Dominican women.....It is not specific to the DR.... To be painted by this brush is sexist and misogynistic
Written by: Jander, 25 Jun 2008 9:07 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Tursi owned the La Riviera, Club Eros and the Speakeasy
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Jander how nice of you to refresh my memory .....were you writing an article for a magazine ? how did you become so expert in these matters? Dixie admits to being a client I hope he has reformed
Written by: Jander, 25 Jun 2008 10:35 AM
From: Dominican Republic
No I ws trying to get that million bucks and put Google and Wiki-Pedia to work.
I couldn't find any old photos of the the Marquee and what it said.
Written by: Jander, 25 Jun 2008 10:36 AM
From: Dominican Republic
PS my mom was Italian so this mafia trivia intrigues me.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
the names Zerilli ,Licavoli,and Giacolone ring a bell or Cotroni...Thats my neck of the woods
From: United States
Goulet, how interesting you mentioned the Black Angus. on my first trip to PR, i asked the cab driver to take me to an inexpensive but decent hotel. so happens that it was within a stone´s throw from the Angus, and some other bar with the name Hawaii, if i remember. there were girls from all over the latin american area. like Goulet, i only saw them in passing, while i was giving out treats for the indigent.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Thank you Dread for confirming the story ....Was the hotel the Borinquen Tower it was practically across the street and the little bar outside and off to the right was the" Hawian Hut " a meeting place for evangelical students if I am not mistaken
From: United States
actually, Goulet, the hotel was a little family owned inn called Hotel Toro. the owner, curiously enough, was Mr Toro.(or Señor Toro, if you want to be picky). but it was quite fortuitously located for those who wanted to be within easy access of the Angus, and the Hawaiian Hut, another landmark. there were a few others in the area, if my memory serves me right. i would have been in my element had i not been so busy singing loudly in church at nights.
Written by: ny4life, 25 Jun 2008 12:52 PM
From: United States, New York, NY
Consuello good post!!
From: United States
sadly, Consuello, the reality is that if the DR did not have the sex component in its tourism offering, arrivals would probably fall off by more than 50 %. i know; string me up for saying so, but it is true. in all my 25 plus years of interaction with this country , i have yet to meet one male foreigner who was not here for the tang. it is like Bangkok and Manila; guys do not just pick up and go there just to see the place. there are many other places to see. but we have the poon here in abundance, and that is what attracts droves of folks. cut that off and the industry is dead as a dodo bird.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Not quite dread but single traveling males of any age are here for companionship yes companionship would be the more genteel way to describe this phenomenon as opposed to looking for tang...that said I would think most of the tourism is couples then women cruising to take advantage and degrade the first suitable male they can find and some guys as well are here for sex also
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
When the only sound in the empty street,
Is the heavy tread of the heavy feet
That belong to a lonesome cop
I open shop.
When the moon so long has been gazing down
On the wayward ways of this wayward town.
That her smile becomes a smirk,
I go to work.
Love for sale,
Appetising young love for sale.
Love that's fresh and still unspoiled,
Love that's only slightly soiled,
Love for sale.
Who will buy?
Who would like to sample my supply?
Who's prepared to pay the price,
For a trip to paradise?
Love for sale
Let the poets pipe of love
in their childish way,
I know every type of love
Better far than they.
If you want the thrill of love,
I've been through the mill of love;
Old love, new love
Every love but true love
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
the inimitable lyrics of a timeless song By Cole Porter
From: Dominican Republic
Here on the dry coast, there is very little in the way of single travelling male species. Sure you see a few...BUT...what I see a whole lot more of is sankies in search...and finding...thier catch of the week...usually an unsuspecting middle aged women who perhaps does not hold the dreamlike body of those sexy magazine ads about travel to far off destinations. Tourism women + sankies + Western Union = new rims for my Civic Coupe....not money to feed my 5 kids from 4 mothers.
On the otherhand...those few women who cruise the area.....it's all for the kids and mom...sitting back at home on Constanza, Bonao and Azua.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Mike you got it backwards..... you must be young...the predator is the lady and she aint unsuspecting ...thats funny....young wet behind ears native seduces middle aged gringa ....your ageism and sexism is showing
From: United States
Goulet, what is happening? i am beginning to agree with you more and more these days. yes, the predator is the middle aged woman from Moose Antler, Wisconsin, who is 60 pounds overweight and hasn´t seen the bamboo in 15 years, because, in her neck of the woods, not even dogs bark at her. so she comes down with her posse, all equally grotesque from an appearance standpoint, looking to overpopulate the discos in the all inclusives, looking for some pipe. sanky panky loves the odds, and before you can say ¨knife¨, he is on a new passola, and living large. soon, Martha will go back to the cornfields and the cattle, but the Western Union missives will take effect. soon, Ramon will be blinging away, with Nike, Reebok, and all.Martha will spend the next three months packing suitcases with the latest new york ghetto chic, counting the days for her return. when she makes the second trip, she will be looking for a real estate agent, because she wants a home here for her and the novio.
From: United States
Ramno will assure her that the house has to be bought in his name, since she is a foreigner, and has no rights of property ownership. she will heed his advice, to the denial of all other counsel, and , when the ink is dry on the title, he will move in his woman, her kids , uncle , grandmother , et al. he will be charitable enough to give Martha directions to the nearest cabaña. after all, he would not want her sleeping in the streets, would he?
From: Dominican Republic
Cougars they're called.. (older women after young native pipe) and yes, their numbers are catching up to the mongers faster than you can say "slip on that sleeve".
Hey, more power to them.
And if you guys are going to be dropping San Juan names like Hotel Boriquen, Hawaiian Hut and such, then I'm gonna start mentioning places like Litos..
How many of you guys remember THAT place, owned by a ????????????? ( this is where we separate the "Men" from the boys...
Dread, you have an unfair advantage, I mentioned it to you one night in a drunken stupor at the Acuarium....
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
the brutality of the language of romance is unfamilliar to me "laying pipe" we dont say these things ,do you? Not seen the mahogany in 15 years....we dont say these things ..do you? But seriously this is not only here and not only middle aged ...these ladies are fully aware that while they are on vacation no one will be the wiser ....cest la vie.....on some islands and here as well young men have become very agreesive and take the wrong cues sometime leading to serious problems
From: United States
very correct, Goulet. you know what? if these people are dumb enough to fall into the traps that sanky sets for them, then more power to sanky. it is no different than the old fools who think that some 19 year old showstopper is head over heels in love with their gout!
From: United States
cougars, huh? never heard that one before. and Litos has me beat. there was another club on the same street as the hotel toro, and that club opened during the afternoons, as opposed to the others , which opened at nights. the talent was no less inviting, i must add.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAJIDBtb8Wk&feature=related Dixie when you say seperating the men from the boys is this another reference to the gay bar scene....just kidding ...No Litos unless it was one of the audience participation places that kind of faded away in the seventies I dont know of it...Where was it located ? I was in seminary school at this time of my life so all these places were just names to me
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Loved those long lay overs in SJ .
The little info that is out their is that Riviera became a gay bar and Tursi did some some time retired to Nevada and died in 89 .
I love the way the Costa Rican leave out the fact the Nica’s, Columbiana, and Peruvian, and Panamanian’s work in Jaco for Costa Ricans ( rent is $$$$)
. Get real….. Costa Rica is full of crooks, just like their Government!!!!!....
Just read the AM Costa Rica ....
http://www.amcostarica.com/monday.htm
Crooks and lairs....
c
No where do you hear about the little Tica/Tico’s working in the Sex Trade It’s always the bad Dominica’s
…get real…
Is the Dominican Republic's Government going to start training these people for real jobs or is this just more mierda del caballo…..
If you not in the loop and deal with this on a daily bases…then your talking out of you’re a**
Get real
The point is here, no Countries are ever without their own version of stigmas and tarnished reputations. Maybe if we as people in the Latin Americas stop catering to foreigners by offering and allowing them the sexual beauty & Freedom to exploit of our Island Countries when we should rather and instead promoting our cultural beauty and unity that we have as Latin-Americans & Caribbean Islanders.
Good luck with that!
This starts at the cradle and until Latin Americans can control ithe insatiable urge to procreate then you will just have to accept it as part of the culture.
What I have come to realize here is that the male child is treated like a prince and the female is raised to take care of and please men.
Even the young women who try and earn money the traditional way have at lest one child before they are 18. What chance do they or their children have of a better life.
Everyone likes to blame the government and foreigners rather then take responsibilty.
Of course you have Boca Chica and the northern towns that are full of extranjeros but this is small potatoes compared to the bigger cities that have built miles of Cabana's that are used by locals.
Did I go there a lot? Let's just say I was probably the only kid in the history of the place that had credit with the girls..
I couldn't find any old photos of the the Marquee and what it said.
Is the heavy tread of the heavy feet
That belong to a lonesome cop
I open shop.
When the moon so long has been gazing down
On the wayward ways of this wayward town.
That her smile becomes a smirk,
I go to work.
Love for sale,
Appetising young love for sale.
Love that's fresh and still unspoiled,
Love that's only slightly soiled,
Love for sale.
Who will buy?
Who would like to sample my supply?
Who's prepared to pay the price,
For a trip to paradise?
Love for sale
Let the poets pipe of love
in their childish way,
I know every type of love
Better far than they.
If you want the thrill of love,
I've been through the mill of love;
Old love, new love
Every love but true love
On the otherhand...those few women who cruise the area.....it's all for the kids and mom...sitting back at home on Constanza, Bonao and Azua.
Hey, more power to them.
And if you guys are going to be dropping San Juan names like Hotel Boriquen, Hawaiian Hut and such, then I'm gonna start mentioning places like Litos..
How many of you guys remember THAT place, owned by a ????????????? ( this is where we separate the "Men" from the boys...
Dread, you have an unfair advantage, I mentioned it to you one night in a drunken stupor at the Acuarium....