SANTO DOMINGO. - “Until there is a Migration Law or regulation by consensus, adapted to our Constitution, while there isn’t institutionality the problem of the immigrants is never going to be solved,” said the priest Regino Martinez, director of the Jesuit Refugee and Immigrants Service.
The prelate, in reference to the current increase in undocumented Haitians who beg in the country’s streets, said “what anarchy and the lack of laws generate is disorder, violence and repression.”
He said it’s a national problem which must be faced by the State. “It’s not a question of whether Immigration director Carlos Amarante has the sufficient human, economic or technical resources to control the situation; the issue of the children begging can’t be individualized.”
Martinez said the traffic of illegals shouldn’t be treated “in a gross, violent manner, nor with corrupt or repressive controls,” and denounced that in Palo Verde, Hatillo Palma and Villa Vásquez the immigrants are taken with or without ID cards and their rights are violated.
Amarante said that the routine sweeps of Haitian immigrants will continue, within his entity’s possibilities.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Katy bar the outhouse door.....Its going to be flying soon
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
Here's a little 'secret' info about the Jesuit agitators whose sole purpose is to cause chaos:
The Extreme Oath of the Jesuits
"I, _________ now, in the presence of Almighty God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed Michael the Archangel, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the holy Apostles St. Peter and St. Paul and all the saints and sacred hosts of heaven, and to you, my ghostly father, the Superior General of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola in the Pontificate of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear, that the holiness the Pope is Christ's Vice-regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by virtue of the keys of binding and loosing, given to his Holiness by my Savior, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical kings, princes, states, commonwealths and governments, all being illegal without
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
(More):
his sacred confirmation and that they may safely be destroyed. Therefore, to the utmost of my power I shall and will defend this doctrine of his Holiness' right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran of German, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and the now pretended authority and churches of England and Scotland, and branches of the same now established in Ireland and on the Continent of America and elsewhere; and all adherents in regard that they be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now renounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or state named Protestants or Liberals, or obedience to any of the laws, magistrates or officers.
I do further declare that the doctrine of the churches of England and Scotland, of the Calvinists, Huguenots and others of the name Protestants or Liberals to be damnable and they themselves damned who will not forsake
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
(Continues):
his sacred confirmation and that they may safely be destroyed. Therefore, to the utmost of my power I shall and will defend this doctrine of his Holiness' right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran of German, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and the now pretended authority and churches of England and Scotland, and branches of the same now established in Ireland and on the Continent of America and elsewhere; and all adherents in regard that they be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now renounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or state named Protestants or Liberals, or obedience to any of the laws, magistrates or officers.
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
(Still more):
I do further promise and declare, that notwithstanding I am dispensed with, to assume my religion heretical, for the propaganda of the Mother Church's interest, to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they may entrust me and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstance whatever; but to execute all that shall be proposed, given in charge or discovered unto me, by you, my ghostly father, or any of this sacred covenant.
I do further promise and declare, that I will have no opinion or will of my own, or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the Militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ.
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
(more):
That I may go to any part of the World withersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions of the North, the burning sands of the desert of Africa, or the jungles of India, to the centers of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America, without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things whatsoever communicated to me.
I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
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"the poisoned cup", the Strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus.
In confirmation of which, I hereby dedicate my life, my soul and all my corporal powers, and with this dagger which I now receive, I will subscribe my name written in my own blood, in testimony thereof; and should I prove false or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the Militia of the Pope cut off my hands and my feet, and my throat from ear to ear, my belly opened and sulphur burned therein, with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth and my soul be tortured by demons in an
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
(Conclusion):
an eternal hell forever!
All of which, I, _______________, do swear by the Blessed Trinity and blessed Sacraments, which I am now to receive, to perform and on my part to keep inviolable; and do call all the heavenly and glorious host of heaven to witness the blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist, and witness the same further with my name written and with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and sealed in the face of this holy covenant."
(He receives the wafer from the Superior and writes his name with the point of his dagger dipped in his own blood taken from over his heart.) -------------end.
This my fellow countrymen are the characters that pretend to defend the plight of the undocument Haitians. None other than the secret Army of the Pope, creating havoc and ushering in a New World Order subject to the Vatican. Hegelian Dialectic Jesuits! These agents of "Rome" subvert sovereign nations under the guise of priests and teachers. 'drWolves.'
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
Quote:
“Until there is a Migration Law or regulation by consensus, adapted to our Constitution, while there isn’t institutionality the problem of the immigrants is never going to be solved,” said the priest Regino Martinez, director of the Jesuit Refugee and Immigrants Service.
Regino Martinez SJ, speaks as if he were an elected official. This man is actually a (secret) foreign agent in a sovereign Republic. However, Jesuits and their masters don't respect human laws because they claim to have a divine mandate. They subvert nations, governments, they say in the name of God. The Society of Jesus has been expelled from over "180 countries" during their existence for plotting to overthrow them. Regino Martinez is on a mission to destroy the precious law and order that exsists in Quisqueya. Why allow this spy to stir up hatred? Research the Jesuits, and you'll find out what these Jesuits are all about:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4BThwMi0cE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7PQ
From: United States
thank you Arsenio, for that article. now my disdain for catholicism ( and most other organised ¨religion¨) seems a little better situated.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Now dread because you folks were high anglican {episcopalian}no need for anti papist talk
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
GouletColonial:
My disdain is not for the Catholics; There are great Catholics; My native country is "by contitutional law", Catholic. (That's one of the reasons I do not live there, I'm Protestant). But, some Catholics are the finest Christians you can meet anywhere in the world. My parents are and were individuals from that Catholic tradition. But, here you have an article that states:
"Jesuit priest slams the Dominican Government’s policy on Haitians"
If any one has an inkling of the nature of the diabolical history (the inquisition, World Wars I & II, etc.) of these wolves in sheep's clothing/agitators; He wouldn't hesitate for a minute in calling them what (SJ) they are: killers and usurpers of peace and prosperity. Jesuits have no right to slam anyone who knows what they're all about: Thesis, Anti_thesis = Synthesis...What you're seeing b4 your eyes is their motto: "The ends justify the means" By any means necessary". If you don't know; Ask somebody: GC.
From: United States
actually, Arsenio, i am never against individuals. i am against institutions. i find it difficult to accept that an institution which gave us the Crusades, the Inquisition, and the misery of latin america can be thought of as being next to God. yes Goulet, my religious roots are in the Methodist tradition, but, i repeat, i disdain all religious organisations. i see just too much racketeering , pedophilia, and just general criminal behaviour to be comfortable with them.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
the Myth of Opus Dei no ?..... I find the church a little more benign than you guys.....I am not a practising Catholic but my moral beliefs are based on Catholic teachings ....Now the canard of pedophilia..... This is foisting off by the gay community of their particular sexual practices but this so called pedophillia is..sex with ... adolescent young men not children except in few cases are they younger than 14....This does not make it any less odious ...it is taking advantage of people less sophisticated or less powerful...but this is done by a gay clergy committing crimes of underage sex or avery broad definition of pedophillia.....call a spade a spade
From: United States
you see, Goulet, i am fully aware of the fallibilty of humans, and therefore try not to be too judgemental. the Roman Catholic Church is always trying to legislate bedroom behavior, wanting to hurl down fire and brimstone upon fornicators. yet, their priests provide us with examples of the most sexually depraved humanity. what the heck is that? then they hide and cover up the issue, transfer the priests, slap them on the wrists, and pay off the victims in undisclosed settlements behind closed doors. sounds all very clandestine and Mafia-like to me. no sir; i believe in a higher being , and have two bases for religion 1) giving thanks for my daily bread 2) seeking guidance in dealing with my fellow man. now why on earth do i need some intermediary for this? why do i need to deal with some snake oil salesman who tells me that he speaks with God on a regular basis? how come i am never in the room when God speaks to this dude? and why is it that it is going to cost me money to
From: United States
have my issues brought before God by this middleman? why can´t i do it myself? what does some guy in a big old hat have that brings him in contact with God? and what is all this shaking of smoky vessels and incense ? it is all too much like superstituous rituals to me. i rather quietly give thanks for my day, say my grace before dinner( or whatever meal), and quietly pray for guidance. that way, i get to keep my hard earned cash, and the church does not get to use it to buy Yankee Stadium.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
let me put it this way .....I grew up in a home where my mother was Protestant and my father was Catholic at Christmass and Thanksgiving when the turkey was passed there was a certian part of the birds anatomy that was called by my mother the Popes nose and by my father as the Parsons nose....that says it all about religous bickering
From: United States
funny, Goulet; i was raised methodist, yet in my house it was called the parson´s nose!
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
you see you that probably would have been more prevalent the closer to the UK you got and the anti Irish anti Catholic sentiments might have been stronger....in southern Ontario of my youth they still had the Orange parades can you imagine ...celebrating the battle of the Boyne...you know the parades they have riots about every year in Belfast
From: United Kingdom
There are among us those who are truly honest of heart and those who will be very pleased to hear that religion in all its forms, organized or otherwise will be done away with in the not too distant future at God's very own command. Just have a glance through the Bible book of Revelation chapter 17, paying particular attention to verses 15-18. If you want to know more about this and want to have it confirmed that this is actually referring to world-wide organized religion as a whole, ask any Jehovah's Witness; they will be only to happy to confirm this for you from your own Bible! The truth about what is due to happen is out there and easily accessible and cannot be hid but the issue is, how many will really listen and take note and act on what they hear? Only those honest of heart, happily.
Written by: jose_NYC, 27 Jun 2008 6:34 AM
From: United States
Honestly I dont believe in any religion or institution brainwashing people on whats good or wrong. Is funny because I do believe in god I just dont think that you need to follow any religion in particular. And please Jehovah's witnesses are one of a kind you are either with them or against them
From: United States
jose NYC, i will believe in organised religion when the sky God himself tells me that he ordained certain guys to run the ship for him on earth. otherwise, i will reserve my right to see organised religion as the biggest hustle of all time, right up there with three card monte dealers. i fail to see how some person can receive absolution from his indiscretions by confessing them to some other guy in an adjoining room. as one of my professors once noted¨african religions never caught on in the USA, because they do not have collection plates.¨ he also noted that when the European came to the new world, he had the Bible, and the settlers had the land. after a short period of time, the European had the land, and the settlers had the Bible. its all a colossal racket, to my way of thinking.
From: United Kingdom
Jose.. you hit the nail on the head. Jehovah's Witnesses are definitely one of a kind. One identifying mark of whether they are true Christians or not, is defined in this very simple statement: Jehovah's Witnesses belong to a world-wide community of believers and this is one of the reasons that they will not go to war or support any 'war-effort'. War would pit brother against brother, and that would fly in the face of Jesus' command to have 'love among themselves.' (John 13;35) Religion today, as we all know is a scam and has been since time immemorial. The Scriptures clearly outline how God wants to be worshiped. But I repeat, how many will really listen and take note and act on what they hear? Only those honest of heart and those who are looking for answers. The truth from the Bible sets us free from erroneous doctrines, man made teachings and God dishonoring lies. It's up to all of us to find these things out and Jehovah's Witnesses will help you so to do, for free.
From: United States, New York City
What's up with this strange wave of proselytizing starting up on these threads?
From: United States
cibaeño, you knew it was only a matter of time before this happened. i myself am guilty of the counter positions, but the religious zealots are coming out of the woodwork.
From: United Kingdom
Dreadlocks.. spot on ...your last few posts .. and no reason at all to be 'guilty' of giving the counter positions.. there is an urgent need to help people to think, to help them to use their very own thinking abilities.. to really see what's going on around them .. and not be blinded by mere rhetoric...but some will still refuse... .As the Bible so beautifully puts it..'...the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God for it is written: "He catches the wise in their own cunning."' ...you may already know that the Bible has the unique power to 'overturn strongly entrenched things' but only for those who question whether what they have been taught is true or not. For others, truth is an irritation....and an uncomfortable reality... for others tho'... a breath of fresh air. ... .
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Dread they are warming up the hottest part of hell for you as we speak....there is no absolutions for your sins
From: United States
don´t cry for me, Goulet. my 50,000 BTU Carrier ac will be in my luggage when i enter the burly gates.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
and your asbestos under wear
Written by: jose_NYC, 27 Jun 2008 6:50 PM
From: United States
dreadlocks I need to get one of those too
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Underwear or AC....it wont help dread the part he is going but i do have some advice for him....Dread dies and it is judgement day.St Peter says to Dread "I am afraid you have not made it to heaven. But you can, as a special favour, have a choice of hells".
"What do you mean, a choice of hells?" "You can go to the capitalist hell or the communist hell".
"Ok, fair enough, but what's the difference between them?" "Well, the capitalist hell has fire and brimstone and torture." "And the communist hell?" "That has brimstone and torture and fire".
"I don't understand. They sound exactly the same. Which should I pick?"
"If I were you I'd choose the communist hell."
"Why should I do that?"
"Well, you know what these socialist places are like. Sometimes there's no fire, sometimes there's no brimstone, sometimes there's no torture........
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The Extreme Oath of the Jesuits
"I, _________ now, in the presence of Almighty God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed Michael the Archangel, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the holy Apostles St. Peter and St. Paul and all the saints and sacred hosts of heaven, and to you, my ghostly father, the Superior General of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola in the Pontificate of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear, that the holiness the Pope is Christ's Vice-regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by virtue of the keys of binding and loosing, given to his Holiness by my Savior, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical kings, princes, states, commonwealths and governments, all being illegal without
his sacred confirmation and that they may safely be destroyed. Therefore, to the utmost of my power I shall and will defend this doctrine of his Holiness' right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran of German, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and the now pretended authority and churches of England and Scotland, and branches of the same now established in Ireland and on the Continent of America and elsewhere; and all adherents in regard that they be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now renounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or state named Protestants or Liberals, or obedience to any of the laws, magistrates or officers.
I do further declare that the doctrine of the churches of England and Scotland, of the Calvinists, Huguenots and others of the name Protestants or Liberals to be damnable and they themselves damned who will not forsake
his sacred confirmation and that they may safely be destroyed. Therefore, to the utmost of my power I shall and will defend this doctrine of his Holiness' right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran of German, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and the now pretended authority and churches of England and Scotland, and branches of the same now established in Ireland and on the Continent of America and elsewhere; and all adherents in regard that they be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now renounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or state named Protestants or Liberals, or obedience to any of the laws, magistrates or officers.
I do further promise and declare, that notwithstanding I am dispensed with, to assume my religion heretical, for the propaganda of the Mother Church's interest, to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they may entrust me and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstance whatever; but to execute all that shall be proposed, given in charge or discovered unto me, by you, my ghostly father, or any of this sacred covenant.
I do further promise and declare, that I will have no opinion or will of my own, or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the Militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ.
That I may go to any part of the World withersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions of the North, the burning sands of the desert of Africa, or the jungles of India, to the centers of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America, without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things whatsoever communicated to me.
I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use
"the poisoned cup", the Strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus.
In confirmation of which, I hereby dedicate my life, my soul and all my corporal powers, and with this dagger which I now receive, I will subscribe my name written in my own blood, in testimony thereof; and should I prove false or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the Militia of the Pope cut off my hands and my feet, and my throat from ear to ear, my belly opened and sulphur burned therein, with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth and my soul be tortured by demons in an
an eternal hell forever!
All of which, I, _______________, do swear by the Blessed Trinity and blessed Sacraments, which I am now to receive, to perform and on my part to keep inviolable; and do call all the heavenly and glorious host of heaven to witness the blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist, and witness the same further with my name written and with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and sealed in the face of this holy covenant."
(He receives the wafer from the Superior and writes his name with the point of his dagger dipped in his own blood taken from over his heart.) -------------end.
This my fellow countrymen are the characters that pretend to defend the plight of the undocument Haitians. None other than the secret Army of the Pope, creating havoc and ushering in a New World Order subject to the Vatican. Hegelian Dialectic Jesuits! These agents of "Rome" subvert sovereign nations under the guise of priests and teachers. 'drWolves.'
“Until there is a Migration Law or regulation by consensus, adapted to our Constitution, while there isn’t institutionality the problem of the immigrants is never going to be solved,” said the priest Regino Martinez, director of the Jesuit Refugee and Immigrants Service.
Regino Martinez SJ, speaks as if he were an elected official. This man is actually a (secret) foreign agent in a sovereign Republic. However, Jesuits and their masters don't respect human laws because they claim to have a divine mandate. They subvert nations, governments, they say in the name of God. The Society of Jesus has been expelled from over "180 countries" during their existence for plotting to overthrow them. Regino Martinez is on a mission to destroy the precious law and order that exsists in Quisqueya. Why allow this spy to stir up hatred? Research the Jesuits, and you'll find out what these Jesuits are all about:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4BThwMi0cE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7PQ
My disdain is not for the Catholics; There are great Catholics; My native country is "by contitutional law", Catholic. (That's one of the reasons I do not live there, I'm Protestant). But, some Catholics are the finest Christians you can meet anywhere in the world. My parents are and were individuals from that Catholic tradition. But, here you have an article that states:
"Jesuit priest slams the Dominican Government’s policy on Haitians"
If any one has an inkling of the nature of the diabolical history (the inquisition, World Wars I & II, etc.) of these wolves in sheep's clothing/agitators; He wouldn't hesitate for a minute in calling them what (SJ) they are: killers and usurpers of peace and prosperity. Jesuits have no right to slam anyone who knows what they're all about: Thesis, Anti_thesis = Synthesis...What you're seeing b4 your eyes is their motto: "The ends justify the means" By any means necessary". If you don't know; Ask somebody: GC.
"What do you mean, a choice of hells?" "You can go to the capitalist hell or the communist hell".
"Ok, fair enough, but what's the difference between them?" "Well, the capitalist hell has fire and brimstone and torture." "And the communist hell?" "That has brimstone and torture and fire".
"I don't understand. They sound exactly the same. Which should I pick?"
"If I were you I'd choose the communist hell."
"Why should I do that?"
"Well, you know what these socialist places are like. Sometimes there's no fire, sometimes there's no brimstone, sometimes there's no torture........