PORT-AU-PRINCE. - Haiti Lower Chamber Security Commission president Apolon Enel yesterday said “everything crosses” the Dominican-Haitian border, from illegals, to guns and drugs, because Haiti’s authorities don’t exert any type of control.
Meanwhile, in Dajabón, the Jesuit priest Regino Martinez said that although there are seven entities to control the illegal traffic of guns and drugs on the Dominican side, “corruption wraps everything.” He said there isn’t a single gun detector along the more than 330-kilometer border.
“What can I tell you? There is no control on the border zone, no police, there is no police station, the crossing is free, without control,” Enel said when reporters asked him about the situation on the Haiti-Dominican dividing line.
He said if guns and drugs cross freely, you can’t speak of true control border. He said the soldiers can barely control some points, such as Dajabón, Elías Piña and Belladere, “but in the south there’s nothing.”
The Haitian lawmaker said to correct the situation his government is going to build more police stations along the border and will establish a specialized border guard.
SOURCE: ELDIA.COM.DO
Written by: antonioj, 30 Jun 2008 10:16 AM
From: Canada, Oakville on terra firma
hmmm I guess it's not the first priority on either side
Written by: bankai, 30 Jun 2008 11:41 AM
From: United States, Long Island
it seems that way. I think the first priority is simply money.
Written by: rom1804 
, 30 Jun 2008 11:55 AM
From: Zimbabwe
Why do we even have a border? We like on an island for gods sake. A small island. Don't worrry sooner or later I will fix that problem. I will eliminate the border issue once and for all.
Written by: Lautaro, 30 Jun 2008 11:56 AM
From: Dominican Republic
How? will you ask your big boss to lend you some troops? LMAO
Written by: talia, 30 Jun 2008 3:15 PM
From: United States, NY
I see that's what he said but I believe the border must close.
Written by: talia, 30 Jun 2008 3:16 PM
From: United States, NY
This is why I've been saying the DR should institute stronger broder patrol!
Written by: talia, 30 Jun 2008 3:18 PM
From: United States, NY
what if by some interesting power there was eruption in the earth and a fault line came about and
separated the countries. I watch too much tv.
From: Dominican Republic, Montellano
Talia, I wanted to ask you if you are Haitian or Dominican, or both like myself... It is hard being of both bloods I can tell you that much. I ask only because I wanted to get a slight orientation on your stance on the issue of Haitian-Dominican Affairs. Such as your view about Haiti separately and your view about DR separately and then you view about both Nations together. Whom do you either empathize or sympathize with more, the Haitians or Dominicans? To what extinct do you understand where the Dominicans are coming from and also to what extinct do you understand where the Haitians are coming from. Given the level of denials, negligence and corruption on both sides... Do you foresee peace, civility and an amicable Hispaniola in the near future. Do you see a Hispaniola where both sides can lay to rest those racial divisive mentalities and differences aside and learn to co-exist and work cohesively while still remain their own respective Sovereign independence of course?
Written by: rom1804 , 30 Jun 2008 4:05 PM
From: Zimbabwe
Talia that;s why man invented bridges.... Not even Death will do us part. You can;t run away from who you are .
Written by: antonioj, 30 Jun 2008 4:14 PM
From: Canada, Oakville on terra firma
"
talia, 30 Jun 2008 3:16 PM
From: United States, NY
This is why I've been saying the DR should institute stronger broder patrol!
"
I wonder who is really benefiting. ?
From: United States
there were enough difference in the 19th century that separated the island in two... there are countless more in the 21st century....
Quit daydreaming
Written by: arcatype , 30 Jun 2008 4:37 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The Dominican Republic border needs to be militarized as long as Haiti remains idle poor disorganized and its infrastructure in shambles. The U.N. peace keeping forces in Haiti still remain there have they been able to disarm the political gangs active in Haiti? Is Europe or the U.S. investing capital to create a solid infrastructure in Haiti? Are jobs being created in Haiti to help people earn a decent living? Is the international community doing enough to alleviate the huge problem with deforestation in Haiti? What is the haitian goverment doing in Haiti to alleviate the social problems affecting the country like child prostitution, child enslavement (Restavek's) kidnappings, crime, institutionalized corruption etc? Environmental problems like water shortage, food shortage, lack of arable land. As long as these problems remain, the illegal migration of haitians will not stop. The dominican goverment has to alocate more money on the border.
Written by: antonioj, 30 Jun 2008 4:40 PM
From: Canada, Oakville on terra firma
"
rom1804, 30 Jun 2008 4:05 PM
From: Zimbabwe
Talia that;s why man invented bridges.... Not even Death will do us part. You can;t run away from who you are .
"
Talia = consuello=hispanloyosoy... and many aliases more. I guess everyone need an hobby.
Written by: arcatype , 30 Jun 2008 4:45 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Cont., The trend of haitians crossing the border will not end, unless Haiti changes and becomes a stable country. The dominican goverment has to remain vigilant and crack down on N.G.O's that serve as enemies to the state, and discourage the help to haitians within the Dominican territory and encourage these evil organizations to help haitians in Haiti.
Written by: talia, 30 Jun 2008 5:11 PM
From: United States, NY
Consuello,
Hi I am Haitian and just that. I feel that Haitians need to go to back to Haiti and stay in Haiti. Look,
this is how I see it, in life you can take a situation and turn it into a cross or a blessing. I don't think I need to tell you what my people have done. But nevertheless, though they have fallen down they still need to get back up and restore their country. This starts with the government, not with the "coup" fanatics. Now since I am a yougin' (in my veinte's,lol) trying to reasses my countries strife all the time I can't put my finger on what should be done but I know it starts wit the government. Sometimes I go back forth with certain ideas and concepts I've heard in my mind, people saying should they have gained independence so soon, should they offer to become a US territory. All these political things, I don't really know. It's sad. But I feel that my people should let the Dominicans develop in their success and go back to their side and deal with their...
Written by: talia, 30 Jun 2008 5:18 PM
From: United States, NY
cont.
problems. Dominicans are growing in success, they don't need haitians on their hands or backs.
No one likes to see their people or children begging and asking for help either.
I hope you understand me now Consuello.
And antonioj
I don't know who you think I am but I am talia, chick from NY. I've never used other alises or anything like that. And I just started this forum and commenting things because I like to read and
see people's responses on the Dominican Republic,, which I like. And then, some of the
Haitian related topics. I like to read a lot about the DR. Some might find it strange because I am
Haitiana but I like the country. I am american I only went to Haiti when I was like too young to even
remember. But a lot of my friends are hispanic and I've been to the DR more times than Haiti.
IDK- that's my logic on my feelings.
Written by: talia, 30 Jun 2008 5:25 PM
From: United States, NY
Antonioj,
Please don't tell me I am Hispanolanosoyyo (jeez y does the name have to so long). First of all I'm not a guy, secondly I proud of my haitian heritage cien% (saying this for the umpteenth time) .
I don't know antonioj. but perhaps you should realize that there is more than one Haitian person out in the world that can come and speak their mind on a forum about these topics and try in their best to be diplomatic and considerate to others. Please don't compare to mr. long name, unlike him I just want to get along and communicate w/dominicanos and basically everyone. peace.
From: Dominican Republic, Montellano
Talia,
I agree! I truly feel that Haitians should start heading back to Haiti and allow DR to bask in their own success as they demand. Whereas you mention it starts with the Government, I say it starts with people, the Haitian Diaspora Communities abroad.
Then the Government which should already be always trying to work for its people in the first place. "We would much rather stay home and work and not have to face these discriminative calamities, but we have to go to DR since we have no other hope left. Whatever a Haitian gets paid here in DR is only 85 cents or a dollar more perhaps than what one would have gotten paid in Haiti, the downsize and problem to that is that the jobs are not even there in Haiti to be getting paid this even smaller amount that what DR is offering and violating us over with all kinds of discrimination because of our color" says a migrants.
By the way, HispanolanoYoSoy is a 100 % proud of both Haiti & DR which is what makes it so hard for him.
From: United States
Talia, I see where you are coming from and i feel haitians should stay on their side. But i think the situation with DR, is a lil more complex than the way you are looking at things. I think DR's economy is somewhat dependent on haitian cheap labor. Construction and agriculture uses a lot of haitian workers. The absence of cheap haitian labor in DR would not make DR the most attractive place for foreign investment. Yet, I do believe DR CANNOT support haiti by any means. I believe in the tightening of borders, but in terms of both countries. I think both side needs each other, and Haitians need to go back home, help bring stability, and start a construction boom in haiti. As for you going to DR more than haiti, that is an interesting comment. For someone who advocates staying on their side, I suggest you trying to go to haiti and discover the beautiful side of haiti. If you dont know any, i would more than gladly show some of the safe and beautiful places of haiti.
From: United States
Room1804:
What have You achieved so far posting Your "Dumbs" comments ??
Written by: talia, 1 Jul 2008 12:18 AM
From: United States, NY
I appreciate your comment "anonymous" but in terms of me or anyone I know going to Haiti right now, well, I don't know if you've heard this lately but its a "bit" dangerous particularly for those who haven't been there in a good while or just plain foreigners. I understand what you mean but there's no beauty in seeing, people get hurt, attacked or kidnapped. That's just the matter of the situation- I'm not gonna front its ugly right now, but that's why I always have to keep faith and pray and so do many around the world. Put God first, I ask the Lord to preserve and have mercy on them. They've done a lot of hurting to themselves and others, more so to themselves. At the end of the day the country still needs change and people still have to protect themselves.
From: United States
Talia,
perception sometimes can appear to be reality. Haiti (P-au-P in particular) isn't any more dangerous than most big U.S. cities, Latin American cities, or even many smaller caribbean countries with 4 - 5 times higher murder rates, violence, and corruption than Haiti (including the DR). While "they" are scaring us from going to Haiti, each time you board a plan from North America or Europe departing for Haiti, it is 100% full to capacity, and 90% of the occupants are not Haitians. So, if Haiti is so dangerous, why are so many foreigners going to Haiti? Just as you would be careful in some places in NY city, one should be vigillent in certain places in Haiti, a poor country with very few jobs, but that doesn't make it an unsafe country. The bad foreign press, it's all a scare tactic to keep the educated Haitian diaspora from going to Haiti to invest and to challenge the status quo - the small elite ruling for the benefit of their patrons, not for the Haitian people...
From: Dominican Republic
Let's stay focused: the DR is THE land of opportunity. Home of FREE ENTREPRISE!
So, the border problem is not the border, but the people with the funny looking clothes and caps with scrambled eggs that man it. Mondays and Thursdays are illegals days. Fulano gets his cut. Wednesdays and Saturdays are drug days. Fulanito gets his cut. Tuesdays and Fridays are weapon days. Fulanote gets his cut. And on Sundays, everybody gets plastered.
A few years ago, the US offered help in border patrol, precisely to circumvent these problems. The local military declined, in the name of sovereignty. Actually, their concern was keeping their business going.
Can't control the border. Would be bad for business!
Written by: talia, 2 Jul 2008 10:48 AM
From: United States, NY
Oneworld1 said:
"Talia,
perception sometimes can appear to be reality. Haiti (P-au-P in particular) isn't any more dangerous than most big U.S. cities, Latin American cities, or even many smaller caribbean countries with 4 - 5 times higher murder rates, violence, and corruption than Haiti (including the DR). '
I'm sorrry but coming from someone who's had her aunt kidnapped. Someone who has family members and relatives in some of these violent parts. The bad outweighs the good Oneworld1.
Just last month they were talking about 2 American white woman from New Jersey who went down there for missionary work that were kidnapped. Let's not get into the food shortage riots and the anger over their burnt down market place one of the biggest in the country. The bad outweighs the good Oneworld1. It's not safe. I see your stats and I see what you said about planes being filled and I question them. I don't see how anyone can go down there and if they go...
Written by: talia, 2 Jul 2008 10:50 AM
From: United States, NY
(cont.)
...its not to the places that I'm concerned with. Where people are hardest hit with pain and violence.
From: Haiti
Well well well..Talia welcome on board. I hope you don't take my comments personal but Im going to tell you how it is. Just because you are ashamed of being haitian and have travelled to the DR more than Haiti doesn't make you different. You are a haitian girl in NY and not american even if you hold that passport. You eat beans and rice and many of your family members can't barely speak english. So you can't pass for african american. You have alot of hispanic friends..good for you but you're haitian and don't forget that. Now I have to say haiti has it fair of problems and WE have to fix it. You being so pessimistic do you think Haiti is going to change? You are part of the problem too. You have left misery behind now your talking band about your mother country as if you don't recognise her. Please never talk bad about your mother Haiti because at the end of the day she's all you have. You ain't dominican aint hispanic aint american. I since shame in your writings.
From: Haiti
Now Im sorry your aunt was kidnapped but let's see who did it. Most kidnaps are done by bitter family members that feel you haven't send enough money to them and don't care about them and come to Haiti flashing acting like a little bourgeoisie. Haiti is paradise for me and many people I know just because you come from Hell in Haiti doesn't mean it can't change for the better. Never talk bad about your mother. She needs you that have benefited in NY city rather than pretending to be something you're not. Now dominican republic has its own issues and 2.5 million haitians have helped their economy but they don't want all these illegals to stay. Now we must demand from our government why the hell can't they create opportunity that mirrors sto dgo so that haitians won't have to cross the border illegally. Racial issues isn't at the forefront of things although it plays a part but isn't the core of this problem. NGO's are manipulating the situation for their own interest.
From: Haiti
If people take the normal precautions while travelling to Haiti and stay away from the marginalised barrios they would be fine. I have been to NYC and some places I was appalled to see so many poor people and ghetto neighbourhoods. I would be scared as sh%$ walking around Norstand Ave or New York Avenue after dark. Common sense people..things happen everywhere. Go walk around Duarte & Paris after dark and see if you'll come out with what you had on. Haiti has its fair of problems but it still has its good hard working people that aren't living off on a dollar a day. Please to all the diaspora haitians. don't ask what you country can do for you rather what you can do for your country. After all, many of you without the american social net would still be poor and never climb up the economic ladder.
From: Haiti
Talia, please dont take my comments as a personal attack. I am basically responding from what I've read from you. P.S. welcome aboard. We need young bright haitian women participating in the reconstruction of Haiti. Unless you want to just sit and talk about the problems and travel everywhere but your own country and tell people your haitian descendant as that make you less different.
Written by: lovingit, 3 Jul 2008 2:58 PM
From: United States, Delaware
I personally dream of the day that Dominicans don't have to lower themselves by making the sea voyage to Puerto Rico and performed the unskilled labor Boricuas are not willing to do. Legal Dominicans, living anywhere in the world, including Puerto Rico is fine, because at least they know their rights could be exercised.
Written by: talia, 3 Jul 2008 5:56 PM
From: United States, NY
thanx and God bless u J.H. you know who u are and I know who I am. Its people like you that remind me not to tell my business because of your presumptions. God bless you J.H. God bless you. You just know me soo well, huh.? You don't and you shouldn't stereotype people while belittling them. And I did take your post as a personal attack. Anyone who is belittled and forced in a stereotype negatively would take it as an attack. But God bless you J.H. God bless you so much!
I've been saying up and down that I am Haitian. Not denying it, or shadowing it like you've said. I don't need my country going somewhere and begging for help. Like many American born Haitians
we're tired of people putting us down and unwarrantlingly telling us we don't care and we should do more. This is my problem those born and raised outside are senseless, stupid, and don't give a damn, right J.H.? Isn't that how you feel? That's not the case we do care and we do want to resonate with our cultural homeland.
Written by: talia, 3 Jul 2008 6:05 PM
From: United States, NY
"Well well well..Talia welcome on board. I hope you don't take my comments personal but Im going to tell you how it is. Just because you are ashamed of being haitian and have travelled to the DR more than Haiti doesn't make you different. You are a haitian girl in NY and not american even if you hold that passport. You eat beans and rice and many of your family members can't barely speak english. So you can't pass for african american. You have alot of hispanic friends..good for you but you're haitian and don't forget that. You have left misery behind now your talking band about your mother country as if you don't recognise her. Please never talk bad about your mother Haiti because at the end of the day she's all you have. You ain't dominican aint hispanic aint american. I since shame in your writing."
Don't stereotype people it only comes back to hurt all. Why would you go and say "dont take my comments as a personal attack" when you know it is. U know what u'r doing J.H. hmm!
Written by: talia, 3 Jul 2008 6:16 PM
From: United States, NY
J.H. God-willing I've been able to have US family members who have succeded and grown in their fields of study. Speaking several different languages and traveling around the world. And you have no shame or compassion to put another Haitian down. If Domincan visitors of this site see this it just helps support some of the negative views they hold for us. If you go through all my post you'll see I've only spoken empoweringly and strongly to have my people pick themselves up and move up on their own. You can criticize me on that but don't put me down on a personal level. That never looks good-for me or you. I hope you understand as there may be more Haitian Americans frequenting here.
From: Haiti
Talia, I apologise for my comments. I just sensed an "honteuse" from your part. Haiti isn't as bad as you make it seem. As another poster tried to make you see that Haiti has another side but you persisted that it was not a place for visiting. How the hell do you think dominicans and gringos are going to react if they read this from a haitian national. Things happen everywhere and as mention if you go to the wrong place in DR or Bklyn you might not make it out. Regardless there is Jacmel,Labadee, Aux Cayes where things are relax without the havoc of P-au-P. I hope I read you wrong and will give you the benefit of the doubt. Ti cherie mwen...excuser mwen.doudou. I only have love for my haitian people and claiming someone is poor isn't a put down. Rather it shows that poor haitians can be productive if given a chance just like poor dominicans prosper in the USA as well which both of our goverment need to do a better job on so that people are less willingly to leave. God bless u 2.
Written by: talia, 4 Jul 2008 9:35 AM
From: United States, NY
Thank you for your apology. I wish we could name more than those three places that are prosperous. But time will only tell. One people can only take so much J.H. For those suffuring in Haiti there must be a change and a great motivating for them..
Written by: Lautaro, 4 Jul 2008 9:53 AM
From: Dominican Republic
That's the thing, jabao. Seeing as how all of the public services of the country are concentrated on Port-Au-Prince, when foreigners think about Haiti, the first thing that comes into their mind is, precisely, the wretched state in which the capital finds itself in. That reminds me of a common joke that I have heard from some haitian friends, in the sense that, instead of calling itself Republic of Haiti, the country should be named "the Republic of Port-Au-Prince". No pun intended against the PAP people, of course.
From: Haiti
Talia, again stop being so pessimistic dear. Actually I can name more than those places..Bassin Bleu, Wahoo Bay,Leogane,Arcahaie. On and on dear. It appears you are stuck on what you hear in the media which think haiti evolves around slums such as Cite Soleil. When haitians abroad talk about haiti they only talk about the areas they come from which isn't so nice but if they venture to the middle class society and other surroundings you would fall in love with haiti inquiring how to start a business and buy a house. We all know that alot of work needs to be done but we do have to shed light to the other side of haiti which a minority enjoy which is also your to enjoy. You being born in USA doesn't make you different from any haitian born in Haiti. It is your duty as an extension of Haiti to further take it to the next level. Dual citizenship is something diaspora needsto push rather than have marches at the dominican consul. Ti cherie pa give up. Fok Ayiti changer for you and others
From: Haiti
Lautaro, Port-au-Prince no longer resembles the french caribbean mecca it was. All the campesinos have flooded the capitol looking to improve their economic situation and realize it is harder there than the provinces but refuse to return as not be seen as a failure that couldn't hack the city life. Decentralising everything and making each department independent extension of port-au-prince would be the best thing ever and DR too since the haitians on the border find it more convenient to cross the border for service rather than going all the way to the capitol. Let this be a lesson for DR government too where all the campos believe they'll make it big in Sto Dgo although many bypass there to go to puerto rico and nueva yol. BTW, haitian students at UTESA are organising to counter the defamation of haitians in the DR.
Written by: Lautaro, 4 Jul 2008 10:42 AM
From: Dominican Republic
It's called the double migrational phenomenon (from countryside to the cities, and from these to foreign lands) and it seems to have the same effects in almost all Latin American countries, this phenomenon being caused by the inability (or plain apathy) of Latin American govs to make their agricultural sectors withstand the competition of their heavily subsidized counterparts on the developed countries. Although, with the current food crisis, some countries seem to be opening their eyes as to their peasants' plight, even though it might be too late for some of them to reverse the trend.
Written by: talia, 4 Jul 2008 2:06 PM
From: United States, NY
Okay J.H. I understand, perhaps I'll try to probe more of my family members about these places in Ayiti. Some of them brush me off when I ask them questions, so maybe some of my thinking has been too confined. thanks for shedding more light. J.H. Bondye beni-w
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separated the countries. I watch too much tv.
Talia, I wanted to ask you if you are Haitian or Dominican, or both like myself... It is hard being of both bloods I can tell you that much. I ask only because I wanted to get a slight orientation on your stance on the issue of Haitian-Dominican Affairs. Such as your view about Haiti separately and your view about DR separately and then you view about both Nations together. Whom do you either empathize or sympathize with more, the Haitians or Dominicans? To what extinct do you understand where the Dominicans are coming from and also to what extinct do you understand where the Haitians are coming from. Given the level of denials, negligence and corruption on both sides... Do you foresee peace, civility and an amicable Hispaniola in the near future. Do you see a Hispaniola where both sides can lay to rest those racial divisive mentalities and differences aside and learn to co-exist and work cohesively while still remain their own respective Sovereign independence of course?
talia, 30 Jun 2008 3:16 PM
From: United States, NY
This is why I've been saying the DR should institute stronger broder patrol!
"
I wonder who is really benefiting. ?
there were enough difference in the 19th century that separated the island in two... there are countless more in the 21st century....
Quit daydreaming
rom1804, 30 Jun 2008 4:05 PM
From: Zimbabwe
Talia that;s why man invented bridges.... Not even Death will do us part. You can;t run away from who you are .
"
Talia = consuello=hispanloyosoy... and many aliases more. I guess everyone need an hobby.
Hi I am Haitian and just that. I feel that Haitians need to go to back to Haiti and stay in Haiti. Look,
this is how I see it, in life you can take a situation and turn it into a cross or a blessing. I don't think I need to tell you what my people have done. But nevertheless, though they have fallen down they still need to get back up and restore their country. This starts with the government, not with the "coup" fanatics. Now since I am a yougin' (in my veinte's,lol) trying to reasses my countries strife all the time I can't put my finger on what should be done but I know it starts wit the government. Sometimes I go back forth with certain ideas and concepts I've heard in my mind, people saying should they have gained independence so soon, should they offer to become a US territory. All these political things, I don't really know. It's sad. But I feel that my people should let the Dominicans develop in their success and go back to their side and deal with their...
problems. Dominicans are growing in success, they don't need haitians on their hands or backs.
No one likes to see their people or children begging and asking for help either.
I hope you understand me now Consuello.
And antonioj
I don't know who you think I am but I am talia, chick from NY. I've never used other alises or anything like that. And I just started this forum and commenting things because I like to read and
see people's responses on the Dominican Republic,, which I like. And then, some of the
Haitian related topics. I like to read a lot about the DR. Some might find it strange because I am
Haitiana but I like the country. I am american I only went to Haiti when I was like too young to even
remember. But a lot of my friends are hispanic and I've been to the DR more times than Haiti.
IDK- that's my logic on my feelings.
Please don't tell me I am Hispanolanosoyyo (jeez y does the name have to so long). First of all I'm not a guy, secondly I proud of my haitian heritage cien% (saying this for the umpteenth time) .
I don't know antonioj. but perhaps you should realize that there is more than one Haitian person out in the world that can come and speak their mind on a forum about these topics and try in their best to be diplomatic and considerate to others. Please don't compare to mr. long name, unlike him I just want to get along and communicate w/dominicanos and basically everyone. peace.
I agree! I truly feel that Haitians should start heading back to Haiti and allow DR to bask in their own success as they demand. Whereas you mention it starts with the Government, I say it starts with people, the Haitian Diaspora Communities abroad.
Then the Government which should already be always trying to work for its people in the first place. "We would much rather stay home and work and not have to face these discriminative calamities, but we have to go to DR since we have no other hope left. Whatever a Haitian gets paid here in DR is only 85 cents or a dollar more perhaps than what one would have gotten paid in Haiti, the downsize and problem to that is that the jobs are not even there in Haiti to be getting paid this even smaller amount that what DR is offering and violating us over with all kinds of discrimination because of our color" says a migrants.
By the way, HispanolanoYoSoy is a 100 % proud of both Haiti & DR which is what makes it so hard for him.
What have You achieved so far posting Your "Dumbs" comments ??
perception sometimes can appear to be reality. Haiti (P-au-P in particular) isn't any more dangerous than most big U.S. cities, Latin American cities, or even many smaller caribbean countries with 4 - 5 times higher murder rates, violence, and corruption than Haiti (including the DR). While "they" are scaring us from going to Haiti, each time you board a plan from North America or Europe departing for Haiti, it is 100% full to capacity, and 90% of the occupants are not Haitians. So, if Haiti is so dangerous, why are so many foreigners going to Haiti? Just as you would be careful in some places in NY city, one should be vigillent in certain places in Haiti, a poor country with very few jobs, but that doesn't make it an unsafe country. The bad foreign press, it's all a scare tactic to keep the educated Haitian diaspora from going to Haiti to invest and to challenge the status quo - the small elite ruling for the benefit of their patrons, not for the Haitian people...
So, the border problem is not the border, but the people with the funny looking clothes and caps with scrambled eggs that man it. Mondays and Thursdays are illegals days. Fulano gets his cut. Wednesdays and Saturdays are drug days. Fulanito gets his cut. Tuesdays and Fridays are weapon days. Fulanote gets his cut. And on Sundays, everybody gets plastered.
A few years ago, the US offered help in border patrol, precisely to circumvent these problems. The local military declined, in the name of sovereignty. Actually, their concern was keeping their business going.
Can't control the border. Would be bad for business!
"Talia,
perception sometimes can appear to be reality. Haiti (P-au-P in particular) isn't any more dangerous than most big U.S. cities, Latin American cities, or even many smaller caribbean countries with 4 - 5 times higher murder rates, violence, and corruption than Haiti (including the DR). '
I'm sorrry but coming from someone who's had her aunt kidnapped. Someone who has family members and relatives in some of these violent parts. The bad outweighs the good Oneworld1.
Just last month they were talking about 2 American white woman from New Jersey who went down there for missionary work that were kidnapped. Let's not get into the food shortage riots and the anger over their burnt down market place one of the biggest in the country. The bad outweighs the good Oneworld1. It's not safe. I see your stats and I see what you said about planes being filled and I question them. I don't see how anyone can go down there and if they go...
...its not to the places that I'm concerned with. Where people are hardest hit with pain and violence.
I've been saying up and down that I am Haitian. Not denying it, or shadowing it like you've said. I don't need my country going somewhere and begging for help. Like many American born Haitians
we're tired of people putting us down and unwarrantlingly telling us we don't care and we should do more. This is my problem those born and raised outside are senseless, stupid, and don't give a damn, right J.H.? Isn't that how you feel? That's not the case we do care and we do want to resonate with our cultural homeland.
Don't stereotype people it only comes back to hurt all. Why would you go and say "dont take my comments as a personal attack" when you know it is. U know what u'r doing J.H. hmm!