If the DR cannot get this issue strait for it own people.... how can we expect the Haitans to do it

Lays a path toward what?

"JRRubirosa, 29 Jul 2008 8:35 AM
From: United States
Dominican Republic is already 100% screwed up by Haitians, OEA, France, US, UN and this week by the goverment which is so lenient that sucks and creeps out.
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Do you ever have anything positive or constructive to say besides your same illiterate gibberish?
Please get an education since you are hooked on phonics.

Antonioj:

Positive to say will be to get the Haitian issue off the daily agenda in Dominican Republic.

Do You have any positive feedback other than saying that is OK for You and Your people to
do and say as You please and everybody else is wrong.

Entiendes ahora negrito cocolo???

Antonioj are you real? Why should the Dominican Republic burden itself with illegal haitians, tell me why!!!!! "Pa fuera' invasores haitianos"! Carajo!!!!!

Antonioj you need to return and help your people ....You and Rubi can shake hands across the border

GC:

As always very wise and unbiased comments.

I see this discussion is going to go nowhere.

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JRRubirosa, 29 Jul 2008 9:41 AM
From: United States
GC:

As always very wise and unbiased comments.
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You have a long away to go (camaroncito) if you ever make it, before you reach the analytical skills of a Glout or Lautaro in the mean time keep trying.. I will be in Mexico August 15 and Haiti following.

I wish, I could go the ghetto where Rubi is, brooklyn heights, and give him a nice (w..ping) this should smarting him up.

Antonioj:

Why You got offended about coming back and educating Your people instead of bragging about being educated.

Sorry to give You bad news but I don't live in the ghetto, I do live in one of the best cities in NY.

Brooklyn Heights is one of the most affluent parts of Brooklyn in NY, it shows Your lack of knowledge.

Good luck with Your trip cocolo..........

That's right Rubi, it's the ritzy section of downtown Brooklyn. You live by the promenade. That's right Antonioj thats far from very ghetto, flatbush Brooklyn where haitians live LoL.

arcatype:

Good input.......

In Israel on each person´s ID it says whether they are Jew or Arab, which I think is great.
It is perfect if Haitian people born in the DR from legal parents could get their Haitian papers. That would be great. That would end their troubles. But anyway, if people are illegal they need to leave the country, with or without Haitian papers.

The statement by JCE President Julio Cesar Castenos reflects the racist outlook of the Dominican government and ruling classes toward the Haitian Workers. They make it a point to divide Haitian and Dominican Workers while exploiting both and have them kill each other. Dominican Justice-minded people should demand fair treatment for everyone. They shouldn't tolerate second-class status treatment for anyone in the country. The racists say the Haitians are illegal. Like we say in the US, no one is illegal. Longtime residents are not given documented status to make it easier to exploit them better and then deport them without a retirement package, pension etc. The Dominican capitalists exploit the Dominican Workers the same way. That is the source of the poverty of the Dominican people. The Haitian capitalists and landowners manufacture the same poverty in Haiti too. Haitan and Dominican authorities have a secret complicity to practice human trafficking to exploit Haitian Workers.

Caonabo AYITI, I agree with you.

Caonabohayti:

Why instead of so much rhetoric on Your side , better ask the Haitian goverment to help its own people, people like You are looking to place the burden on Dominican Republic.

If both constitutions state clear who is Dominican and who is Haitian why push for the issue.

Is not going to happen (union of both countries) if Dominicans are racist why Americans haven't take Haitians in Florida same way as They do with Cubans.

Peace with respect.......

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arkatype, 29 Jul 2008 9:36 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Antonioj are you real? Why should the Dominican Republic burden itself with illegal haitians, tell me why!!!!! "Pa fuera' invasores haitianos"! Carajo!!!!!
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You are putting word in my mouth; can you point the forum to such statement ? for your information I support alot of the issues coming from your side, however some of your posting and Rubi's are CALLOUS, distorted and base on a very simplified, or standardized conception of
Haitians.

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Cocolo is a slang term common in the Spanish-speaking Caribbean used sometimes to refer to blacks. It is also a term used to refer to people from Anglophone and Francophone West Indies in Spanish-speaking countries and especially, the Cocolos of San Pedro de Macoris in the Dominican Republic
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Rubi, sorry to disappoint you, I may not quite fit your stereotype. In the mean time keep on trying..
do not forget get an education... it's free in the US.

Antonioj:

Thanks for the advice, I'm working on it really hard.

My advice for You:

Get real and instead of pointing fingers to Dominican Republic for Haitian issues "Grow up"
The race card issue is tiresome.

Antonioj, don't waste your time with poor dominicans from USA who have no input. BTW, the idiot doesn't even know that the term cocolo doesn't refer to francophone blacks. Unless you one of those ignorant dominicans that think Nueba Yol is the whole USA. I would love to meet these guys and good forbid if they are brown skin. You just dont know the check mate when idiots like him talk shit about dark skin and found out that haitians are lighter than them and we call ourselves black..what does that make you..lol..anyway, let him rant by himself..Rubi aren't you selling guineos in Washington Hgts...

JabaoHaitian said and i quote "don't waste your time with poor dominicans from USA!" Who the hell you think you are!!!!! Looking down at people, this is the type of haitian that lives on a hill and think that they are on top of the world. More like the big top clown circus, you just dont seem to amaze yourself. That's why you are so obssessed with race you are a "Jabao" which is a light skin black, i guess that makes your status big in Haiti looking upon your dispossesed and opressed black majority with disdain, the saying is true you can learn alot from a dummy.

This is the DR/Haiti where you dont get no respect or think you are in because u went to a public school in NY and got government cheese. Look whose talking about race..when the cards are flip on you it isn't right to mention race. Arc you are a straight up punk..no huevos and would run if confronted. At Rubi show so heart..you are a cobarde stirring things up behind a keyboard..and dont worry in haiti we dont put all weight on a fair skin. It is you that's white in the DR but a light skin very fair spigger in USA or hide under the latino umbrella..Little Punk..Rubi tu eres mi pana full..at least u are consistant with your rant unlike this coward dominican

Again Jabaohaitian you dont know me, you are the worst seer or wizard in the face of the earth. You cant stand the heat then get the hell out of the kitchen. Your whinning show's your true colors.