From: Dominican Republic
“Perhaps people don’t like the strong when they’re taught to behave.”
Racista Pero del Diablo. Espero que de estes quemando muy bien.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
The guy in the picture is named Palmer....MCcain was an Admiral whos office was probably in Virginia if he was in charge ...So what ?.....Fidel was a murderer whos office was in Havana....upon further research yes Palmer is the guy that ran the show....Punto...if MCcain was behind a desk some where in Virginia or Washinghton show me ....Lt. Gen. Bruce Palmer, Jr., commander of the U.S. forces in the Dominican Republic...next time do some research before you shoot your mouth off...read your history...this rubbish was put out by Obamas network
Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 2:25 PM
From: United States, Texas
The aim of the 1965 imperialist attack, occupation, and genocide was the destruction of any emerging and nascent democracy in the DR.
Democracy, on the representative rather than participatory side, is defined as a form of state in which:
(1) Supreme power resides in the body of citizens entitled to vote in the DR, [not the White House]
(2) Citizens elect their Dominican representatives [not the imperialist leader in Washington picks them]
(3) The representatives are accountable to the Dominican citizens [ not to the arrogant US imperialists who control the Dominican police and military]
(4) The representatives exercise power in accordance with the rule of law. [not with the will of the US invader, mass murderer, and occupier.]
John Jr. also hates democracy in poor and underveloped countries when it's defined this way. Like his father, John Jr., the GOP nominee, is quick to resort to genocide if democracy, as defined here, threatens to break out.
Written by: arcatype 
, 4 Jul 2008 2:27 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I dont agree with the language used by McCain, but who the hell wants to be part of a socialist state. Where your life is rationed away by a backward administration!!!!!
Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 2:49 PM
From: United States, Texas
"MCcain was an Admiral whos office was probably in Virginia if he was in charge ...So what ?."
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"Probably?" the ignoramus GC says. Well, ignoramus and crackpot is certainly wrong.
But GC's crackpot point, is -- if a US commander manages a network of US concentrations camps in the DR where over 100,000 people were rounded up, jailed, tortured, some 40,000 murdered, raped, humiliated, and degraded with extreme vileness, it's OK ... it's no big deal ... if the US commander works out of an office in Virginia.
Genocide, torture, mass murder, human slaughter, human massacre, holocaust to clean out those alleged "Reds" in the DR?
"So what?"
After all, the US savages in charge of the barbarity work out of an office in Virginia.
If a US imperialist-generated virus were to wipe out the whole population of Canada, GC, the Crackpot of the Yukon, would say "So What?" The virus comes out of Virginia.
Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 2:57 PM
From: United States, Texas
"I dont agree with the language used by McCain, but who the hell wants to be part of a socialist state. Where your life is rationed away by a backward administration!!!!!"
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Evidently, most of the people of the DR "wants to be part of a socialist state" if they are given a democratic choice and if they are not invaded, occupied, rounded up into US concentration camps and slaughtered by the tens of thousands by the US imperialists and other US savages, especially US Marines and US mercenaries, while the despicable rightwing of the Dominican bourgeoisie stands by and cheers every Dominican slaughtered by the US imperialists.
Written by: arcatype , 4 Jul 2008 2:59 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Sure Belial your sanity is questionable?
Written by: Jander, 4 Jul 2008 3:05 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Just read the book " In the time of butterflies" to be reminded of why the DR was invaded.
The mission has always been to stomp out Communism and cruel murderous dictators.
Be reminded Belial that no matter how much you rant and rave you will alwaysbe talking to yourself.
From: Afghanistan, BAF
Ol' Bellyache....You know another round of intervention couldn't be too far off .Face it whining about the 'big meanie' wont make it stop hurting. Socialism is a poison that robs people of their individuality and eventually will lead to a cowed and dependant population , which works out great for the rulers but in the long run will be the down fall any civilization.
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
Evidently, most of the people of the DR "wants to be part of a socialist state" if they are given a democratic choice and if they are not invaded, occupied, rounded up into US concentration camps and slaughtered by the tens of thousands by the US imperialists and other US savages, especially US Marines and US mercenaries, while the despicable rightwing of the Dominican bourgeoisie stands by and cheers every Dominican slaughtered by the US imperialists.
Belial, this is true .....
GC, your lucky you did not say anything bad about CaaMaño ... He's my hero
From: Dominican Republic
Its amazing how people can justify killing's, of People's of Color and call it Democracy.
Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 3:12 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Sure Belial your sanity is questionable?"
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Yours isn't, since none exists.
Arcatype, do you agree with GC who argues if evil originates in Virginia, it's good?
Arcatype, is there, by chance, a spot of DR territory that permits this miraculous transformation of evil into good, like GC says occurs in Virginia, USA?
If there is such a spot, I suggest that you visit it, Arcatype.
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
Every time, every post GC must back the evil things the U.S. does, even in the presence of immense fact he still backs this empire of lies. I don’t get it he doesn’t even live in the U.S. he is against Obama and has claimed it should have been Colon Powell. Yes the man that stood and lied about weapons of mass destruction for his buddy Bush and the elite.
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
I have been reading the post I think only belial actually knows about the topic, the rest are making ignorant comments.
You guys are always on Belial, you should respect other peoples comments. I respect GC’s comments even thou he is not even Dominican. Or even for that island at all.
I chillaxin coming from a family that fought in the war, knows a great deal of the subject.
What you fail to understand is that every country should have the RIGHT to choose their own Government. Not have some one posted for them like Trujillo and Balaguer.
Written by: Jander, 4 Jul 2008 3:25 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Who slaughtered anyone for Christ sake, is that why the Domincans love the US so much and will lie cheat and steal just to get there becuae we killed their families. I think not...
It was and will always be open season on "Commies" for those of us who grew up knowing they had had their missles pointed at us.
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
My father was in the National Palace as rounds rained on it, and he and his company had to flee. I know men that have lost friends to the war, people that have lost family. People that lost their parents to the death squads in La Victoria after the war, I know that deep down inside not even Gen. Imbert is happy with what he did or let and helped happen.
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
The U.S. makes it so hard for people to live and make money in there country that they must leave to go to U.S. to make money. And everyone in the United States but the Native Americans are sons of immigrants.
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
When the “Grass is cut, the snakes will show”, and this post has showed me a lot about the people that post here, the racism, ignorance and stupidity.
And no I am not talking about the Grassy Knoll stupid!!!!!!!!
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
But I see it’s easy for you to comment, it’s not your people that died. Your people where not slaughtered and then there bodies thrown to the sea. Yes there where so many dead they through them in the water.
Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 3:51 PM
From: United States, Texas
The "commies" who were tortured and slaughtered by tens of thousands by the US imperialists under the command of Adm. John McCain turned out to be mostly PRD members who in 1965 and 1966 were a little different ideologically and politically from what they are today. Today, most PRD members follow bourgeois reactionaries who are to the right of A. Hitler, but in the 1960s, the PRDs mostly followed bourgeois liberals. Essentially, they were Dominican patriots in the '60s who believed in and defended Dominican sovereignty from US imperialist domination. The US imperialists simply called Dominican patriots "commies," rounded up the patriots, and slaughtered them to the loud cheers of Dominican bourgeois reactionaries who saw the Bosch liberals and their supporters as too strong at the polls.
Nothing has changed.
Foul and vile reactionaries in the USA and DR today openly celebrate and feel joy over the 2,000,000 Iraqi people killed as a result of US lies and aggression.
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
Belial, coming from a family that has dealed with the issue for years . you know what you are talking about.
From: Dominican Republic
Who slaughtered anyone for Christ sake, is that why the Domincans love the US so much and will lie cheat and steal just to get there becuae we killed their families. I think not...
It was and will always be open season on "Commies" for those of us who grew up knowing they had had their missles pointed at us.
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What do you think, that DR is the only country that the U.S. has invaded.
History of U.S. Interventions in Latin America
http://www2.truman.edu/~marc/resources/interventions.html
3000+ civilians got killed during that invasion, not to mention, all the killings Balaguer did after they left.
From: Afghanistan, BAF
you ARE our back yard, best to watch yourselves ...we are leigion ! Viva La Empire !
From: Afghanistan, BAF
Our fearless leader W finnished what his Daddy started ... Hmmm Perhapse McCain will finaly make y'all a territory ?
Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 4:40 PM
From: United States, Texas
"3000+ civilians got killed during that invasion, not to mention, all the killings Balaguer did after they left."
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The US Army customarily writes histories of the instances in which it mass murders and slaughters people on a grand scale, once a couple of decades have passed after the massacres.
The imperial history of the US 1965 aggression against the DR or Operation Power Pack, as US imperialists call their Dominican aggression, claims "3000 civilians" were killed.
This is bigger lie than today's casualties counts by pro-imperialists of war-related deaths in Iraq where something like 2,000,000 people have been killed as a result of the US lies and aggression while imperialist apologists and reactionaries claim only 60.000 to 80,000 have perished.
In the DR, the US savages in1965 slaughtered people left and right. The US savages didn't even care which side -- i.e., constitutionalist or loyalist -- you were on. They had a job to do ... i.e., murder a lot of people
Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 4:51 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Our fearless leader W finnished what his Daddy started ... Hmmm Perhapse McCain will finaly make y'all a territory ?"
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Pappabowie is saying George Jr. hanged Saddam after his father, George Sr. failed to hang Saddam.
And McCain Jr. may finally enslaved the DR totally and permanently after his father McCain Sr. failed to finish the job the father started in 1965.
Pappabowie, is the type of reactionary that Dominican bourgeois reactionaries love and adore.
Dominican bourgeois reactionaries wish all US citizens were like pappabowie in mentality and morality.
Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 5:07 PM
From: United States, Texas
"you ARE our back yard, best to watch yourselves ...we are leigion ! Viva La Empire !"
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By "our back yard," what pappabowie is saying is that not only is the Dominican Republic the property of the US imperialists, but also the Dominican people [... "you ARE" ... ] are the property of the US imperialists.
Pappabowie gives good advice when he says "best to watch yourselves," because the US imperialists intend to use what's in their backyard.
What is the significance of "our" as in "our back yard" or, in other words, who is "our?"
"Our" is the reationary sector of the US people, about a third of the population or 100 million US citizens, who are rotten to the core with imperialist mentality and morality.
The other two-thirds of the US people detest this foul "our or this foul "we" as they like to call themselves.
Most US citizens are not imperialist lunatics, but many are.
Written by: TonyBA, 4 Jul 2008 5:22 PM
From: Argentina
i would join the socialist state.because thats the only party that cares about its people. and the only reason people think it doesnt works because the world wont do bussiness with them in feared of the united states invadeing there country
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
the 3 stooges give new meaning to the word crackpot ...Belial ,Chill and Risable....Curly ,Larry and Mo
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Poor Chill has gone completely over to the dark side playing Egor to resident commie stooge .....Caamano would feel sorry for you chill wasting your life away
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Is that Tony ba or Tony bs ?
From: Afghanistan, BAF
http://www.muslimsforobama08.com/ Aww.. Come on Bellyache I was just trying to get a rise out of you, but seriously territory stattus would be nice , no taxes accountable Govt. a vast welfare state for you and yours... figured you would be on board... Check out this link of your "homie" Barak Osama's most vehement supporters , Kind of makes you wonder if it's in our best interest to throw our lot in with those that veiw beating women and raping children as actions sanctioned by god, the Quran it's in there I promise. It would make you sick to see what these 'people' veiw as moral.
Written by: TonyBA, 4 Jul 2008 5:41 PM
From: Argentina
its all ur fault for throw out el poder de jefe Trujillo. if he was still alive dr wounld have been a better country
From: Dominican Republic
ViejoCulonial,
You are just bitter, because Castro would probably out live your old ass.
What the hell happen, i thought as the older one gets, you get Wiser, in your case is the opposite.
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Speaking of U.S. backyards, why in the Hell is DR celebrating july the 4th today, shit does not make sense.
From: Afghanistan, BAF
Thanks Time2Rize That body count page is AWSOME ! Makes me proud to be an American, Just wait till Iran is in the crosshairs, you ain't seen nothing yet. They'll probably even fight like men for a few days till all their conventional forces are decimated. There is going to be some lucrative contract work building that pipeline in a few years :)
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
An interesting report out today (English version here) by the Spanish news agency EFE that points out Fidel's "Reflections" columns are no longer running in Cuba's official Communist Party newspaper, Granma, which has hosted them for almost two years. Fidel's observations are on the web for foreigners and people with Internet access, which pretty much shuts out most Cubans.
Is it a sign that trouble is brewing between Raul and Fidel? Or perhaps even Raul couldn't stand reading his brother's diatribes any longer.
From: Dominican Republic
pappabowie
Your very welcome. By the way how is the Opium Poppy plantation coming along in Afghan. I heard that ever since U.S. invaded, growing and sales have skyrocketed. You got to love Capitalism huh ViejoCulonial
Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 6:05 PM
From: United States, Texas
p. 1 of 2
"Belial are you including the current killings of civilians, currently taking place in Iraq as well?"
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/time2rize asks.
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Yeah.
I really begin with John Hopkin II study [ also called Lancet II] released in Oct. 2006 which found 650,000 war-related Iraqi deaths after 2003.
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles....nals/lancet/s0140673606694919.pdfThis was the PRE-SURGE rate of US genocide against the Iraqi people when you consider that John Hopkins University I [or Lancet I] found 100,000 war-related deaths in Oct 2004.
So the PRE-SURGE rate of US genocide was as of Oct 2006 determined as follows:
(650,000 less 100,000) divided by 24 months is 22, 916 Iraqi war-related deaths per month.
In Sept 2007, Opinion Research Business in the UK found that over 1.2 milion Iraqis had perished as a result of the war since 2003.
http://www.opinion.co.uk/Newsroom_details.aspx?NewsId=78Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 6:06 PM
From: United States, Texas
p. 2 or 2
To determine the SURGE rate of US genocide against the Iraqi people:
(1,200,000 [ORB] less 650,000 [John Hopkins II] divided by 9 months [ the period from the Oct 2006 John Hopkins II release to the Sept 2007 ORB survey release ] yields a US genocide rate of 61,111 Iraqis murdered per month.
Your question is: ought we use SURGE or PRE-SURGE rate of genocide to estimate casulaties for the 10-month period following the ORB survey.
So, EITHER:
61, 111 [ the surge rate of US genocide] X 10 months [period between Sept 2007 and July 2008] = 611,110 [the number killed after Sept 2007]
Thus, the 1,200,000 [the number killed before Sept 2007] + 611,110 [ after Sept 2007] = 1.8 million Iraqis have died as a result of US lies and aggression since 2003.
OR
22,916 [PRE-SURGE rate of genocide] X 10 momths = 229,160 [the number killed after Sept 2007]
So, at the pre-surge rate, the total number of Iraqi deaths in around 1.4 million since 2003.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
who cares splat................noooooooobody
Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 6:20 PM
From: United States, Texas
"who cares splat..."
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All non-lunatics.
From: Afghanistan, BAF
Yes sir the Poppies are in bloom and it is a beautiful thing, most of the Smack goes to Europe though, I tried a line of it back in '05 and NEVER again, I suppose if people get hooked on it they must like it and frankly I found it to be a nasty buzz. But it's the only viable crop they can raise with out some advances being made to their agriculture sector mostly in storage and irrigation.
You know if only 1 in 4 of those Iraqis are alquad sympethizers then according to ol' Bellache we took out 350,000 compared to 4000 American lives lost, that's a pretty damn good average, How can we not be winning this war ? at this rate if they dont straighten up and do right there wont be any Iraqis in another 10 years :)
Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 7:22 PM
From: United States, Texas
"You know if only 1 in 4 of those Iraqis are alquad sympethizers ... " pappabowie observes.
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There is something perceptive about pappabowie, this extreme reactionary who is extraordinarily candid about the adventures of US imperialism.
"If only 1 in 4 of those Iraqis are alquad sympethizers ," he says.
Exactly, murder four Iraqis at random, you are bound to get at least one Iraqi who at least "sympathizes" with the Iraqi patriotic resistance against foreign aggression and occupation.
In other words, US imperialists' strategy is the extermination of the Iraqis and so far about 1 out every 25 Iraqis has perished as a result of the Bush's lies and aggression.
The same strategy of US-inflicted genocide was used in the DR in 1965, but the Dominican patriots, then, weren't as tough as the Iraqis today.
Even with WWII type genocide, McCain argues "we" must stay in Iraq; for otherwise, there be a "bloodbath."
As if almost 2,000,000 dead is not a "bloodbath."
Written by: Jander, 4 Jul 2008 7:51 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Belial and his commie brainwashing tactics: repeat something enough times and someone will sucomb to his evil propaganda.
Chiilie boy Chill out ! LMAO
From: Afghanistan, BAF
OIL you fool we must get that sweet sweet oil, Let us put all the cards on the table. It IS in our best interest to secure cheap and plentiful energy supplies, why quibble over ethics when our standard of living is in perril We Americans HAVE to have large comfortable and powerful vehicles as we are not blessed with a 'metro' and These goat herding women beating "patriots' are standing in the way of American progress , and that my friend is a very perilous place to stand indeed as the rug worshipers are now painfuly learning. Can you imagine the riches that can be gained if we seize control of the gulf region ? Oh glory day !
Written by: Jander, 4 Jul 2008 7:54 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Dam I didn't know all those statistics so our master plan is working?
Written by: Jander, 4 Jul 2008 8:01 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Bette yet lets put all our disobediant women in Giant Stadium, screw pro-football lets see some real ass kicking , oh we better dress them up in Bee-Keeper outfits Red for the home team and white for the visitors.
How much do you think we could sell tickets for $50.00 to $100.00 easy.
Written by: anthonyC, 4 Jul 2008 9:57 PM
From: United States
A few notes.
2Milllion Iraq1i Civillian Dead is just propaganda. That number has been discredited time and again.
Why does anybody care what Castro's Opinion is?
I now have another reason to vote for McCain...Genetics.
I have found that most who hate the U.S.A. are just jealous slackers.
Happy Independence day everyone!!!!!
Written by: Jander, 4 Jul 2008 11:22 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The mere presence of the troops ended the worst of the bloodshed that characterized the first phase of the civil war. The discipline of U.S. troops ensured that thousands more would not join the almost 3,000 Dominicans killed prior to the intervention. For this, most of the population of Santo Domingo were grateful, although they did not always express their gratitude publicly.
That sounds about right doesn't it..
Written by: Jander, 4 Jul 2008 11:30 PM
From: Dominican Republic
However I am reasonable and the previous post was perhaps the only good thing I could find about this Military Blunder" other then it sent a message " No second Cuba" on my watch..
Go figure we had a Texan President calling the shots then as well.
Written by: jonbonz, 4 Jul 2008 11:42 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
Let us remember the president that sent troops in 1965 was a liberal democrat that was wanting to build the great sociaety in the United States based on equality. No he was not a war mongering Conservitive Republican.
Written by: Belial, 4 Jul 2008 11:56 PM
From: United States, Texas
"The mere presence of the troops ended the worst of the bloodshed that characterized the first phase of the civil war. The discipline of U.S. troops ensured that thousands more would not join the almost 3,000 Dominicans killed prior to the intervention," Jander runs out and declares at the top of his voice.
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The US imperialists slaughtered 3,000 Dominican patriots within hours of their landing Apr. 28 1965,, then the imperialists and their mercenaries branched out, grabbing, torturing, murdrering anybody however nebulous their connection with the glorious patriotic resistance to foreign lies and foreign aggression.
Killing patriots right and left, the vile pro US imperialist scum and the filthy US savages, especially the US Marines, belittle the degree of degeneracy and cowardice they displayed in a key moment of the class struggle.
Written by: anthonyC, 5 Jul 2008 12:11 AM
From: United States
"The US imperialists slaughtered 3,000 Dominican patriots within hours of their landing Apr. 28 1965,, then the imperialists and their mercenaries branched out, grabbing, torturing, murdrering anybody however nebulous their connection with the glorious patriotic resistance to foreign lies and foreign aggression."
We are talking dead communists here.
Nobody cried!
Nobody cares about them except their families. their families shouldn't cry because it is they're fault that they are dead. If they loved them they wouldn't have let them grow up with such selfish, infantile beliefs.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Take note belial what Tony C says about commies....and their selfish infantile beliefs....nobody cares...nnoooooooobody
From: United States
“Perhaps people don’t like the strong when they’re taught to behave.”
"Perhaps, this should happen again as a reminder"
Written by: pelaut, 5 Jul 2008 8:59 AM
From: United States
What drivel!
Reid Cabral himself has written, confirming the actual Johnson telephone tapes, that the US was a reluctant partner in the pacification of Santo Domingo. Dozens of factions not under Camaacho were indiscriminately shooting and looting. Add to that the deaths by tigueres unleashed in the anarchy that reigned for weeks into months.
McCain's purported comment can also be translated to mean "people lose their desire for strongmen when they have education and know how to perform civic duties civilly". Not inappropriate under the extreme disorder at the time.
The pseudo intellectuals posting their agitprop here shall, as history demonstrates, be the first to be marched to the wall in their new socialist paradise, should it befall them.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Up against the wall Belial
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Bravo Bravo Bravissimo Pelaut !
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Egor will be spared for his youthful indiscretion.......FIRE.... when ready Gridley
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Wisest words on this subject and deserve to be repeated.. " Reid Cabral himself has written, confirming the actual Johnson telephone tapes, that the US was a reluctant partner in the pacification of Santo Domingo. Dozens of factions not under Camaacho were indiscriminately shooting and looting. Add to that the deaths by tigueres unleashed in the anarchy that reigned for weeks into months.
McCain's purported comment can also be translated to mean "people lose their desire for strongmen when they have education and know how to perform civic duties civilly". Not inappropriate under the extreme disorder at the time.
The pseudo intellectuals posting their agitprop here shall, as history demonstrates, be the first to be marched to the wall in their new socialist paradise, should it befall them."....THANK YOU PELAUT
Written by: pelaut, 5 Jul 2008 9:15 AM
From: United States
Curious!!
Just when the Obama surrogates start working down their list of hits on McCain (what they call 'smears' when it's done to them), the near comatose Comandante Fidel rouses himself to write an editorial exposing McCain as the scion of a gringo Latino-eating ogre. They've also hired Torito -- a TRULY magnificent stroke the country club Repubs can't begin to comprehend. That took discriminating musical appreciation and some grip on Latino culture. Let's hope it brings bachata to mainstream US music.
However, that they were able to conscript the surrogates of El Maestro de La Habana to their cause demonstrates a degree of ideological intercourse that's scary.
Written by: BLANCO, 5 Jul 2008 10:45 AM
From: Dominican Republic
talk about the perfect topic for belial...this is it..i can't believe this guy speaks like this. he writes it but does he talk it....and if so who is listening?
From: Dominican Republic
“Perhaps people don’t like the strong when they’re taught to behave.”
"Perhaps, this should happen again as a reminder"
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Let me remind you that we are not living in the same times, it would not be that easy.
From: United States
i see where a topic which does not include the word Haiti has managed to excite more than 10 replies! some of these responses are bordering on humorous, especially the one from resident genius Goulet, which seeks to absolve John McCain Sr from his part in the 1965 invasion, due to the fact that his command post was in Virginia!! comments like that prove my assertion that there is no limit to human stupidity.
Written by: Rainman, 5 Jul 2008 11:39 AM
From: United States
can anyone tell me the relevance of such a discovery. Many times in history parents and brothers have not shared the same views or even participate in the same side of a conflict . McCain father may have participated in the invation of DR having no impact on the son's political views. by the way in case you guys want to know Castro's sister Juanita is a miami resident for over 35 yrs and his daughter alina for over 10
From: United States
rainman, where in the article do you see any reference to the notion that John McCain Jr might have similar mindset as his father? as far as i interpret it, the article is a historical reference, pure and simple. there appears to be neither conclusion nor editorialising. it is you who suggest the linkage, or lack thereof!!
Written by: Rainman, 5 Jul 2008 11:57 AM
From: United States
dreadlock I mearly made the made an observation before someone acuses McCain of anti Dominican
From: United States
rainman, trust me on this one...it would not be the first time that people made some spurious connection. have you read GC?
From: Afghanistan, BAF
sweet ,sweet ,oil....MMMmmmmm........
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Rainman do not trust him...he is from the far side of the dark side....
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
the Kim Philby of the dark side
Written by: Escott, 5 Jul 2008 1:41 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera and Sosua a 2 days a month for payday
Belial,
The purpose of the military occupation was to keep rabid mad dogs like you out of power.
Simple!
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 2:25 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Havana, Jul 5 (Prensa Latina) Cuba represents the most advanced democracy of the world, with full freedom and sovereignty, said Jose Antonio Barroso, mayor of Villa Real, located in the Spanish province of Cadiz in this capital Saturday."
http://www.prensa-latinaenglish.com/article.asp?ID={3C78DBE2-6563-4F7E-AF82-3E3A21BE45F9})&language=EN
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Indubitably, the mayors of Spanish towns are the most perceptive and truthful people.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
It is a little open sewer on the road between Cadiz and Sevilla.....Franco El Caudillo should have plowed it under when had the chance it was always a nest of commies
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Viva Franco Viva Espana
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 2:53 PM
From: United States, Texas
"The purpose of the military occupation was to keep rabid mad dogs like you out of power."
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"Rabid mad dog."
Surely, not me.
Nor were the Dominicans who Dec. 20, 1962, democratically elected Juan Bosch by a landslide to serve as their president "mad dogs" whether rabid or otherwise.
The "mad dogs" were the US imperialists who with saliva dripping from their mouths overthrew Dominican democracy on September 25, 1963, using pro-imperialists puppies in Dominican military.
Nor was Francisco Caamaño who on April 24, 1965, led the struggle to restore democracy, the constitutionality and the rule of law by dismanling the puppet dictatorship the US imperialists imposed on the Dominican people.
Four days later, April 28, 40,000 the slimy dogs, malignant hypocrites, and "democracy-talking" scum of the US imperialism ... the armed forces of the US imperialists ... invaded, occupied and slaughtered Dominicans, installing another puppet dictatorship in the process.
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 3:17 PM
From: United States, Texas
The gist of the imperialist argument against the patriot Juan Bosch was and is:
"During the seven months Bosch held power he repeatedly refused to do what the US imperialists told him, claiming, like a fool, that he was only accountable to the Dominican people in whom supreme power resided and who elected him president of the DR. He unequivocally and categorically refused to serve as a puppet of the US imperialists. So, we had no choice but to go in, remove him, put in our people, and shoot everybody who dissented and then some. We deeply regret that an accommodation couldn't be worked out, but under no circumstances will we let a Dominican president tell us what he can and cannot do in the Dominican Republic. "
Naturally, the US imperialists haven't repented in the least, for on Feb. 24, 2004, they did the same thing in Haiti, under the cover of their usual pack of lies.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Up against the wall commie stooge......Haiti was your bud Maxine and Ron and friends from CBC they wanted the deformed dwarf.....
The pseudo intellectuals posting their agitprop here shall, as history demonstrates, be the first to be marched to the wall in their new socialist paradise, should it befall them. Says Pelaut the policy wonk and expert on spewers of drivel like you belial
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 3:33 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Up against the wall commie stooge......Haiti was your bud Maxine and Ron and friends from CBC they wanted the deformed dwarf.....
The pseudo intellectuals posting their agitprop here shall, as history demonstrates, be the first to be marched to the wall in their new socialist paradise, should it befall them," the cagey, sneaky, and underhanded GC says,
oooo
See everybody. What did I tell ya?
Democracy-talking reactionaries of imperialism are profoundly two-faced.
Behind all of the empty democracy-talk and worthless human rights-talk stands nothing but a genocidal fiend.
A fiend bereft of morality, legality, and rationality.
This fiend is a horrible thing that craves the death of others, not so much for power or money or fame, but for the pleasure it feels only when it kills.
Verily, this fiend is a filthy, slimy, rotten, and greasy thing. "Let me touch you. Let me embrace you," this wild animal asks of humanity.
Beware.
From: Afghanistan, BAF
Only those of us at the height of the human pecking order are justified in making these descisions B, Dreadlox pointed this out to me the other day... I beleive he was being faciscious but still the point was made . Nothing can be be gained when the wretched masses of the world are left to their own devices , the strong and direct hand of the military industrial complex is the only thing that will bring the dolefull and weak minded corners of humanity into the fold of productive and redeemable society, otherwise the natives would still be eating bugs and murdering each other with sharpened sticks in some boreal jungle, instead of diatribing modern civilization on the internet...or running for president LOL
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 4:05 PM
From: United States, Texas
ADMIRAL (rear) McCAIN in 1965 : Yesterday, I killed 10 Dominicans personally. How many did you get?
COLONEL (also rear) ELIAS WESSIN: I killed only 5 Dominicans yesterday, but I tortured 50.
ADMIRAL McCAIN: You like to torture, don't you?
COLONEL WESSIN: Well, you get more screams when you torture.
ADMIRAL: I like to murder because it cuts down on the noise.
COLONEL: Different folks, different strokes.
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 4:08 PM
From: United States, Texas
COLONEL ELIAS WESSIN: Why they call you rear admiral?
ADMIRAL McCAIN: Pass that boy over here, right now.
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 4:17 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Only those of us at the height of the human pecking order are justified in making these descisions B, Dreadlox pointed this out to me the other day... I beleive he was being faciscious but still the point was made . Nothing can be be gained when the wretched masses of the world are left to their own devices , the strong and direct hand of the military industrial complex is the only thing that will bring the dolefull and weak minded corners of humanity into the fold of productive and redeemable society, otherwise the natives would still be eating bugs and murdering each other with sharpened sticks in some boreal jungle, instead of diatribing modern civilization on the internet...or running for president LOL," pappabowie proudly says.
oooo
Evil is stunningly shameless but sincere about what it believes about itself.
Of course, what it believes about itself is false.
Evil is often conceited -- "I'm better than I am" and arrogant "I'm better than you."
From: Dominican Republic
I really don't believe that the capitalistic system works. It's thanks to capitalism that there is greed, corruption, and racism in the government and in big business. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 4:34 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Evil is often conceited -- 'I'm better than I am' and arrogant 'I'm better than you.' "
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The Zionist book on divne beings and things says Satan or "the Light" before he went really bad had these two feelings. He believed he was better than he really was and far better than everybody else.
I don't believe that conceit and arrogance are the essence of evil, for that honor clearly belongs to envy and malice.
But conceit and arrogance seem closely related to this peculiar "light."
Naturally, the bourgeois, a bag of slime and garbage, believes he's better than he really is and believes he is far better than the "unwashed," the "losers," the proletarian masses, and the stinking middle class.
I believe that the conceit and arrogance of the bourgeois "lights" extinguished long ago his capacity for the feeling of righteous indignation and for compassion necessary for true humanity, leaving only a filthy animal craving insatiably conquest and plunder.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Risable did you go out of business up in Cabarete or what?
Written by: jonbonz, 5 Jul 2008 4:50 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
If socialism or communism is such a democratic system why is it that the children of this generation’s ruling class will be the ruling class of tomorrow?
Why are the sons of the party chiefs groomed from day one to be in the ruling class? An individual I know that grew up under communism... They said life was easier to survive. However the ability to rise above an elitist class enforced station was impossible. If a person was born to the peasant class then that is where you remained. Your career, education, job all was predetermined for you. Sort of like farm livestock.
Why is Fidel’s brother his replacement? Why did the government of North Korea fall from father to son? It is nothing more than a new monarchy with a new name with medieval rights.
From: Dominican Republic
Risable did you go out of business up in Cabarete or what?
___________________________________________________
Naw ViejoCulonial,
Im actually doing pretty good, but sadly i cannot said the same for Dominicans, who i see struggling everyday. So because im doing well, am i just suppose to pretend , like shit is not F@#$ up for My Peoples everyday. Is it not because of Capitalism that the World is suffering at the Moment?
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 5:10 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Why is Fidel’s brother his replacement?" jonbonz wants to know.
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Merit.
Five top ranking "Granma" commanders among the Cuban revolutionaries -- (1) Fidel, (2) Che, (3) Camilo, (4) Raul, and (5) Juan.
Che and Camilo are not the replacement because they are dead. Perhaps you accept death as a disqualification for public office.
When Fidel got under the weather, only Raul and Juan were left of the original revolutionary giants.
They ... the deputies in the national legislature ... went for Raul because he for 50 years has held more important posts than Juan and Raul performed extremely well on numerous
missions assigned to him.
But in you simplistic head, they went for Raul over Juan solely or chiefly because Raul is a Castro.
You suffer from a disposition to repeat every lie you read in the cappie press as if it were your original thought.
Don't over indulge yourself.
Written by: Lautaro, 5 Jul 2008 5:21 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Don´t be mad about the deeds of those troops, Belial, because, after their ¨military promenade¨ in Santo Domingo, they would be required to serve on the vietnamese war theater, where they would be methodically slaughtered almost to a man at the hands of the Viet Cong. The official reports said that there were only 56,000 american casualties on Viet Nam, but you know that one can´t always believe what the press is telling about these things.
Written by: Lautaro, 5 Jul 2008 5:37 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
dreadlocks said: "i see where a topic which does not include the word Haiti has managed to excite more than 10 replies!"
Perhaps you have not been aware of it, dread, but the second national phobia of the DR is the yankeephobia, although this last one is less pronounced than the way you would find it on other places of Latin America, like Argentina, for example.
From: United States
i agree with you wholeheartedly, Mr Lautaro. and nobody seems to focus upon the wounded in that war, both physically and psychologically. heck, the country is still crawling with doped out ex-soldiers who deserted and fled into the countryside. the story has never been completely told, because the american population does not have the stomach for the truth.
Written by: jonbonz, 5 Jul 2008 6:08 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
Unlike many people I believe very little of what I am told by any official government, corporate or political propaganda. I read through and glean out what facts I can. I do not trust the American government any more than I would trust Belial to be a good business manager.
Do I agree with socialism? not completely but every time I drive on a highway I am using a socialist sponsored service. When I fly into an airport I am using collective built structure.
When I flip a light switch I am connected to a socialist program also. In the Dominican Republic and lately the West Coast of the US it is a failed system.
Written by: jonbonz, 5 Jul 2008 6:09 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
But for your own sake think of this. If they system of government you so desire were implemented do you think you would be given a chance to be one of the elites? I doubt it because you lack the tact and the good sense to know how to represent your point in such a matter to sound intelligent. You would be one of the ones in the soup line like the 1980s Moscow residents in the grand failed communist state.
But you answered my question he inherited the job as a birth right.
Written by: jonbonz, 5 Jul 2008 6:09 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
And yes by the way I deposited my money in a Dominican Bank. I went through the process legally and got my residency and I have my legal Cedula and Residency card. I pay my power bill and don’t steal it. And yes the honest workers offered me an illegal connection for a price.
When I build my home in the DR using my war profiteering money from my job in Afghanistan I will have my own power and water system independent of Petro Caribe or the Government. I will produce my own food so that I do not pay import taxes to a corrupt government and my life style will be my own responsibility.
From: United States
jonbonz, help me on this, but just how do you figure that electricity is a socialist enterprise?
Written by: jonbonz, 5 Jul 2008 6:15 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
Electricity is supplied by a monopoly with in an area or a coop. the prices are not set by competition but by a public works/ service board under government control.
Written by: jonbonz, 5 Jul 2008 6:33 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
Dreadlocks anytime there is a service that pretty much mandatory for life or quality of life that is somehow controlled by a collective that is a socialist system. Price controls in food, highways, public utilities, schools and so forth. A certain amount is needed for a society to prosper. Too much in my opinion allows for corruption of the system.
Written by: jonbonz, 5 Jul 2008 6:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
Price subsidies in America have destroyed to family farm. Why does the DR government encourage importing poultry feed from the US. To tax the feed of course. But somehow the poultry farms is a socialist system. The transport syndicos live off a socialist system of subsidies and exclusive routes.
Written by: jonbonz, 5 Jul 2008 6:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
The first flaw with most socialist or collective systems is central control. When Santo Domingo says what needs to happen in Dajabon on say highway maintenance then how can they truly evaluate what is needed.
In to former Soviet Union the harvest was scheduled in Moscow regardless of whether it was time or not. Some food would rot in the field and other food would be harvested too early.
So slowly but surly Beliels Paradise is hapening.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Jonbonz dont confuse Puff N Stuff with facts or he will get you with D and S....data and statistics
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
the war of 1965 had little to due with commies ,
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 8:08 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Electricity is supplied by a monopoly with in an area or a coop. the prices are not set by competition but by a public works/ service board under government control."
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Identical to Enron's "free" and "de-regulated" energy market propaganda which as usual was a cover for operations, accounting, and securities fraud.
Once the bourgeoisie in the energy industry got itself de-regulated, it stole from everybody and electricity rates rose considerably.
Right now, oil speculators are "competing" in the free market with one another to raise ... not lower ... oil prices. As a result, the fuel bills, including electricity, have risen and the number of business and individual bankruptcies have soared during the first six mmonths of this year due to this "competition" that reactionaries palmed off as a panacea for economic ills.
The "un-regulated" market place presupposes that the capitalist is honest when in reality the most cappies are thieves, looters, and liars.
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 8:25 PM
From: United States, Texas
"How much did you make last year?"
"Little over $100 million," the cappie replies.
"What was the total you distributed as dividends?"
"Oh, little under $20 million. That comes out to 31 cent a share" the cappie replies.
Cappie running dogs and servile reactionaries who always cringe before the bourgeoisie are so stupid that they can't figure out that they are being ripped off big time in the "free" market rife with "competition" over the suckers' wallets.
"The SEC hasn't said anything," a slimy and servile running dog of the cappies points out. "So, I guess everything is alright."
Say goodbye to your 401K dumbass.
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 8:55 PM
From: United States, Texas
REAR ADMIRAL JOHN SYDNEY McCain II: Son, I'm gonna be kind of busy for a while because I got kill Dominicans.
JOHN JR: Pa, why you kill Dominicans.
ADMIRAL: They're living.
JOHN JR: I bet I'll kill more Vietnamese than the Dominicans you get, Pa.
ADMIRAL: Didn't they teach you anything at Annapolis? After I get tired killing Dominicans, an operation which I will command, I'll fly to Vietnam and take command of killing Vietnamese. So, how are you are tell your kills from mine?
JOHN JR: Pa, I didn't think of that. Let's pray to God and to his Son that you get a lot and I get a lot.
ADMIRAL: Amen.
[God blessed both of them.]
[For the record, in mid-1968, Pa, the decorated butcher of Dominicans, was named commander of all U.S. forces -- land, naval, and air -- in Vietnam. His extraordinary savagery in the Dominican Republic was highly and widely admired in Washington.]
From: Afghanistan, BAF
Beleial, Answer me this what is the likely out come if you 'Red" peace marchers stand against a brigade of U.S. marines ? this out come may come to pass if the powers that be in washington decide your little Bannanna republics' money laundering and narco trafficing are deemed a proper enough nusince ...there will be no one left to whine and carry on cause our boys get 'R' done Hiditha style :)
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 9:24 PM
From: United States, Texas
" You 1.2 million Dominican Americans in the USA, vote for me. My old man, whom I greatly admire, slaughtered your families," GOP presidential nominee John McCain can honestly say in 2008.
"What? You don't forgive him. Come on, now, my father was just very good at his job."
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 9:30 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Beleial, Answer me this what is the likely out come if you 'Red" peace marchers stand against a brigade of U.S. marines ?"
oooo
US Marines are for the most part cowards who implement genocide operations against unarmed civilians to keep the kill ratio between US forces and the "enemy" something like either 300 or 400 murders to 1 US casualty.
And, your question: What is the likely outcome if your 'Red" peace marchers stand against a brigade of U.S. Marines?"
The outcome will depend on whether the red peace marchers are armed.
If they are armed, the marines will likely turn around, go somewhere and get drunk.
If they are not armed, the marines will likely call for an air strike on the marchers. After the air strike, the marines will likely charge and bayonet the lifeless bodies.
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 10:17 PM
From: United States, Texas
John McCain wants to do to the Venezuelans and the Iranians what his dad did to the Dominicans back in 1965 -- namely, to introduce them to good old-fashion US genocide after he tells a pack of lies on them.
And good thing about the Venezuelans and Iranians is that they both have oil. Just what the US imperialists need at this time. So, the Venezuelans and Iranians will be better victims of US genocide than the Dominicans who had almost nothing back in '65.
If the PRD returns to power in 2012, the PRDs wil likelyl send DR troops to Venezuela and Iran along side the imperialist forces like PRDs did in Iraq in 2003.
Written by: Belial, 5 Jul 2008 10:58 PM
From: United States, Texas
Earlier, about 4:34 PM, we wrote:
"The Zionist book on divne beings and things says Satan or "the Light" before he went really bad had these two feelings. He believed he was better than he really was and far better than everybody else."
Do you want a look at the "the Light" of evil in its material form.
Examine the picture at the top of this thread to the left of the DT article, depicting the evil commander of (1) US forces, (2) the Dominican Republic, (3) the army, marines, navy, and air force.
The sardonic and depraved smile, the difficulty of the Light of evil mixing with sunlight that shone down from his left, leaving patches of great darkness under his helmet, the eyes that seem devoid of eyeballs, the mathematically impossible shadow that his foul head cast on the upper right side of his body.
Satan, the so-called "Light," visited the DR in 1965. Now, his son wants to visit.
Woe to the poor souls who lived there in 1965 and who live there if junior wins.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
belial up late doing stimulants on the government dime and drug addled as usual
Written by: Belial, 6 Jul 2008 12:03 AM
From: United States, Texas
Matanzas, Cuba, Jul 5 (Prensa Latina) Dominican, Venezuelan and Cuban youths will walk 621 miles, from eastern to western Cuba, to pay tribute to Latin American heroes ...
"We plan to pay tribute to Latin American heroes like Marti, Simon Bolivar, the fathers of the Dominican homeland, Gomez, Ramon Matias Mella and Juan Pablo Duarte, and guerrilla Ernesto Che Guevara," he noted ...
Gonzalez-Coya went on to say their goal is to denounce the situation of five Cuban antiterrorists held in US prisons after a trial in which the principles of US and international law were violated.
http://www.prensa-latinaenglish.com/article.asp?ID={BD10C320-BA50-4F1F-99F2-B0F6A4B5318C})&language=EN
oooo
[ US citizens have to go to the movies to find heroes today, but these citizens can't pay tribute to these cinematic "heroes" because they are fictitious. Phonies.]
[ US bourgeois society largely rejects its giants -- Lincoln, Debs, Foster, FDR, Parks, and King, because they were good.]
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Stephen Foster ?...... Way down upon the Swannee river....Camptown racetrack 5 miles long oh do da day....Carry me back to ole Virginny....
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
what about A. Philip Randolph and Thurgood and Bill Hastie the first black governor in the United States.in the 1940s..the forgotten Adam Clayton Powell....belial you are a phony know nothing
Written by: ny4life, 6 Jul 2008 10:07 AM
From: United States, New York, NY
Why did the invasion happen? There was no communist movement in the DR. It was just paraganda of the 60's so the U.S. could exert its force on the world. THe new hip word is terrorist, anyone that disagrees and differs with U.S. beliefs is considered a terrorist. That's some BS. This whole you are with us or an enemy if you are don't follow us is very barbaric. War should never be an answer.
From: Dominican Republic
On February 27, 1963, Juan Bosch and Armando González Tamayo took possession as the new President and Vice President of the Dominican Republic, in a ceremony that was attended by important democratic leaders and personalities, like Luis Muñoz and José Figueres.
Bosch immediately launched a deep restructuring of the country. On April 29, he promulgated a new Constitution, extremely advanced for its time. The Constitution for the first time in dominican history, declared specific labour rights, and mentioned unions, pregnant women, homeless people, the family, rights for the child and the young, for the farmers, and for illegitimate children.
From: Dominican Republic
However, Bosch faced powerful enemies. He moved to break up latifundia, drawing the ire of landowners. The Roman Catholic Church thought Bosch was trying to oversecularize the country. Industrialists didn't like the Constitution's guarantees for the working class. The military, who had enjoyed free rein, felt Bosch put them on too short a leash. In addition, the United States was skeptical of even a hint of left-leaning politics in the Caribbean after Fidel Castro openly declared himself a Communist.
From: Dominican Republic
On September 25, 1963, after only seven months in office, Bosch was overthrown in a coup led by Colonel Elías Wessin and replaced by a three-man junta. Bosch went back to exile in Puerto Rico.
Less than two years later, growing dissatisfaction generated another military rebellion on April 24, 1965, that demanded Bosch's restoration. The insurgents, commanded by Colonel Francisco Caamaño, removed the junta from power but on April 28, the United States, ostensibly to protect foreigners, intervened in the civil war and dispatched 42,000 troops to the island in Operation Power Pack, just as Caamaño (the leader of the Constitutionalists) said "war would be already over if the U.S. had not intervened." President Lyndon B. Johnson justified the invasion based on fears that the Dominican Republic was turning into "a second Cuba."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_BoschFrom: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
CaaMaño vive
Written by: Jander, 6 Jul 2008 4:56 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: Belial, 6 Jul 2008 6:45 PM
From: United States, Texas
GC,
Some of the most distinguished posters in this forum told me that you belong in a zoo.
I strongly disagreed with the idea.
Most animals in zoos are well-behaved.
It will surely bring disrepute down on a zoo that gave you a cage.
For the level of civility and decorum customary at zoos far exceeds your social skills.
So, where do you belong?
You belong in a packing house that makes soap.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
The guy in the picture is named Palmer....MCcain was an Admiral whos office was probably in Virginia if he was in charge ...So what ?.....Fidel was a murderer whos office was in Havana....upon further research yes Palmer is the guy that ran the show....Punto...if MCcain was behind a desk some where in Virginia or Washinghton show me ....Lt. Gen. Bruce Palmer, Jr., commander of the U.S. forces in the Dominican Republic...next time do some research before you shoot your mouth off...read your history...this rubbish was put out by Obamas network
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
MCcain was so far removed from any of this it is absurd to even mention him in any way with the military or diplomatic events that took place in 1965....Far away from this in any way ...Obama propaganda is what this press release was all about
Written by: sangwong , 6 Jul 2008 7:01 PM
From: United States
Exactly .. why are we celebrating July 4th in the DR? .. what's there to celebrate? .. over 4000 servicemen killed in Iraq? .. others killed in Afghanistan? .. up to a million Iraqis possibly dead since the American occupation of Iraq began .. others living as refugees in Syria and Jordan .. 62,000 Americans have lost their jobs .. the country is being run by "Bozo The Clown" who has borrowed billions more for his "stimulus package" .. Bozonomics .. and if our luck does not change the job will be handed over to "Mad Dog McCain" .. who sees a 100-years of war in Iraq .. we are bloody doomed .. there is nothing to celebrate except the death and destruction that we have so ably spread around the world .. America is a cursed land .. Americans are a cursed people .. a nation of openly and rampantly racist whites .. shame on the US ..
From: Afghanistan, BAF
Now, Now, that's no way to talk about your future anglo overlords, As for 'cursed land' we have many more flush toilets than the DR and we actualy put our trash and garbage in cans and dumpsters as opposed to the street or nearest ditch. We have a big job ahead of us with Iran and Barak Osama would be a liability with his yearly pilgrimage to Mecca and all that, sort of a conflict of interest, Why can't we all be a little more optimistic about the future ? I just put 33" boggers on my H2 the ultimate Japetta ! soon we will be rolling in cheap oil once we depose and replace the govt.s of the gulf region with our chosen surrogate rulers. Try to look on the bright side for once !And try not be so ungreatfull we will eventually drag your little bannanna republic into the 21st century ;)
Written by: DennisC, 6 Jul 2008 8:35 PM
From: United States
Great work timetorize, you know what you are talking about,
plain and simple the whole truth of those years,
as I suspected, the tonyC man and Goulet see a commish even in their dreams,
maybe they both were birds of the same nest in those years,
Goulet my man, you are dissapointing, thought differently of you,
but you are so far right hand conservative, it is difficult to see you,
Go Belial, smash them up.
Written by: Belial, 6 Jul 2008 9:25 PM
From: United States, Texas
GC, how do you know that Lt. Gen. Bruce Palmer, Jr wasn't John McCain's father?
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
what is the definition of massive confusion ?
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
Either way No one wants to vote for McCain........
Written by: Belial, 7 Jul 2008 5:11 AM
From: United States, Texas
p. 1 or 2
The US imperialists today uses modern and cutting-edge strategy and tactics to commit genocide.
Manufactured famine is very popular with the imperialists.
Switchgrass, an extremely common kind of grass in the USA, produces 1000 gallons of ethanol per acre, compared to 665 gallons for sugarcane and 400 gallons for corn.
For every unit of energy input, switchgrass yields four units out. For every unit of energy input, sugarcane produces two units out.
Corn yields only one extra unit out over input.
Naturally, US imperialists massively subsidizes the use of corn, the least efficient bio-material, to make ethanol and appropriate only scraps and crumbs for ethanol production from grass and sugarcane.
Why do the filthy and savage US imperialists pick the most inefficient kind of bio-material to make ethanol?
CON"T
Written by: Belial, 7 Jul 2008 5:17 AM
From: United States, Texas
p. 2 or 2
Simple.
The subsidy-driven diversion of a third of the already inadequate world corn crop from food consumption to fuel production causes a tremendous famine and holocaust that will rapidly exterminate tens of million, perhaps hundreds of millions of people which capitalism feels no need to exploit but who consume.
The free trade hypocrites in the USA and EU even use stiff tariffs to block imports of cheaper sugarcane-based ethanol from Brazil while USA and EU develop their vile and inhuman corn-based ethanol industry.
The difference between US genocide today and German genocide in the 1930s and '40s is US genocide aims to exterminate the mass of the human population whereas German genocide seemed more targeted at specific groups, especially Communists. The absolutely stunning similarity between the two programs of genocide is that the mass of humanity largely denies their occurrence out of either indifference or malice.
Capitalism is filth.
THE END
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Belial please please stop waterboarding us we confess
From: Dominican Republic
Good home work time2rize
Here is another resource.
http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/yates/yates.asp______________________________________________________
Thanks for the Link Jander, but do you have any thing else that is not from the The US Army Command and General Staff College website.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
far more reliable and accurate than Wiki risable I bet you did not even read it..... The study was not produced for the consumption of morons or propaganda do a little research you would know better
From: Dominican Republic
ViejoCulonial
Oh i read it alright, up to the part of "The United States intervention in the Dominican Republic was successful. It accomplished the mission of preventing a Communist takeover and providing the military presence to make a political settlement possible. "
" In some respects, the U S intervention in the Dominican Republic was a dress rehearsal for Vietnam."
"Its like asking the the killers to justify there killings."
If you do not like Wiki go to
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/74607/Juan-BoschWritten by: Lautaro, 7 Jul 2008 3:26 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
" In some respects, the U S intervention in the Dominican Republic was a dress rehearsal for Vietnam."
A very faulty rehearsal indeed, were we to judge the results that weren't achieved on the vietnamese front. Plus, the vietnamese were really carrying the struggle with the will to fight up to the point of leaving their country in smoking ruins, if it meant that they'd get to deny the yankees its possession, a will that would shine for its absence on the dominican case.
Written by: Belial, 7 Jul 2008 4:24 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Belial please please stop waterboarding us we confess."
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On moral and legal grounds, I don't believe or indulge in torture.
Torture is a favored thing by imperialists as well as their mange and mouth-foaming running dogs.
[By the way, do Canadian running dogs of US imperialists when they meet a US imperialist still fall down on their backs, stick their four paws in the air, and expose their soft underbelly to the imperialist?]
[GC, what are you trying to say when you perform these maneuvers before the imperialist?]
From: Dominican Republic
[By the way, do Canadian running dogs of US imperialists when they meet a US imperialist still fall down on their backs, stick their four paws in the air, and expose their soft underbelly to the imperialist?]
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LMAO keepem coming!!
Written by: Belial, 7 Jul 2008 4:53 PM
From: United States, Texas
"The United States intervention in the Dominican Republic was successful."
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The above poses the US problem of evil that cripples a third of the US population.
The hard thing to understand about evil is that it's more than feeling the wrong way, namely pain about what's good and pleasure about what's rotten. And merely doing bad things. Evil requires something else -- a knowledge that something wrong, but a belief is its validity anyway or, in short, the wrong principle upstairs.
Murder is unjustified and unprovoked killing of a human being.
"So, the US murders in the DR were successful," evil believes.
The imperialists used lies about commies as a justification to crush Dominican sovereignty, democracy, the rule of rule and impose pro-imperialist dictatorship.
They used feigned "alarm" over the safety of US tourists as a provocation to murder Dominicans.
Imperialists killed at least 50,000 Dominicans.
Don't you see?
The US murders were successful.
Written by: Belial, 7 Jul 2008 5:03 PM
From: United States, Texas
US EVIL
You still don't get it, do it?
Try this.
"The hard thing to understand about evil is that it's more than feeling the wrong way, namely pain about what's good and pleasure about what's rotten. And merely doing bad things. Evil requires something else -- a knowledge that something wrong, but a belief is its validity anyway or, in short, the wrong principle upstairs."
(1) "feeling the wrong way, namely pain about what's good and pleasure about what's rotten"
The USAs enjoyed killing Dominicans which was a rotten thing.
(2) And merely doing bad things.
The USAs actually KILLED at least 50,000 Dominicans, a rotten thing they enjoyed.
(3) " a knowledge that something is wrong, but a belief is its validity anyway or, in short, the wrong principle upstairs."
The USAs knew what they were doing.
Don't give me the crap about "Forgive them father, they know not what they do," so, they ain't evil.
USAs knew murder was wrong, like it, and did it.
From: Afghanistan, BAF
Already you are within our grasp...Do not tempt fate Ol' Bellyache... Do you not realize if we are to dscover only one wire transfer from a corrupt Dominican bank to Pakistan or some other arab/terrorist state we will feel justified in getting mid evil on your collective @ss ? Patriot act style ! But look at the bright side you may be getting that trip to the workers paradise to the west after all...and a brand new jump suit ! No rice cookers but I hear they will let you have sandals and a prayer rug...
Written by: jonbonz, 7 Jul 2008 9:48 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
With FARC Declared a terrorist organization and money for FARC mostly coming through the drug trade it is not a stretch for the DR to be declared a nation harboring terrorist due to money laundering or transshipment of drugs
From: Afghanistan, BAF
I wonder who we will install as president of the DR after we "wink wink" liberate you all. I see venesualla is treading on thin ice after those imudent stammerings of Chavez insulting our great leader he who is W. At least they have oil...sweet sweet oil MMmmmm....
Written by: arcatype , 9 Jul 2008 3:38 PM
From: Dominican Republic
JonBonz you mean Mexico.
From: United States, New York City
I like the way Castro described Trujillo in the Granma editorial:
"This was an uncouth Pinochet begotten by the United States in the Caribbean. The despot had been the result of one of the Yankees’ military interventions in the island that country shares with Haiti, a country which was the first Spanish colony."
The irony is that Chilean intellectuals of the 60s would write about how their country never produced such monsters as Trujillo and that such a thing could never happen there only to see a similiar monster arise in their own midst. Never look down on other societies people for you never know what the future entails for your own.
Written by: arcatype , 11 Jul 2008 4:30 PM
From: Dominican Republic
And what makes you think Fidel Castro is not a C.I.A created puppet, at least Trujillo had the balls to dictate business in the Dominican Republic while being one of the wealthiest men in the world in his time. His personal fortune was estimated at $800 million dollars, and guess what! he left the country without a debt. And on top of that the country's infrastructure was intact and expanding, while most dominicans were living in prosperity and zero crime and no social ills. Another thing dominicans living in the U.S. and Europe were treated like celebrities because everyone coming out of D.R. were mostly professionals, today different story. No wonder he was known as "El Benefactor de la Patria".
From: Afghanistan, BAF
I wish I could have met 'El Jeffe', I bet he threw one hell of a party.
Written by: arcatype , 12 Jul 2008 12:07 AM
From: Dominican Republic
O' Yes PappaBowie Trujillo could party with the finest, very elegant and stylish man. Unfortunately he targeted las mariposas, that brought utter anger to all dominicans and his demise. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="
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From: United States
I would be happy to see in this life time President McCain leading a third invasion in order to arrest the guy from "Villa Juana"
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Racista Pero del Diablo. Espero que de estes quemando muy bien.
Democracy, on the representative rather than participatory side, is defined as a form of state in which:
(1) Supreme power resides in the body of citizens entitled to vote in the DR, [not the White House]
(2) Citizens elect their Dominican representatives [not the imperialist leader in Washington picks them]
(3) The representatives are accountable to the Dominican citizens [ not to the arrogant US imperialists who control the Dominican police and military]
(4) The representatives exercise power in accordance with the rule of law. [not with the will of the US invader, mass murderer, and occupier.]
John Jr. also hates democracy in poor and underveloped countries when it's defined this way. Like his father, John Jr., the GOP nominee, is quick to resort to genocide if democracy, as defined here, threatens to break out.
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"Probably?" the ignoramus GC says. Well, ignoramus and crackpot is certainly wrong.
But GC's crackpot point, is -- if a US commander manages a network of US concentrations camps in the DR where over 100,000 people were rounded up, jailed, tortured, some 40,000 murdered, raped, humiliated, and degraded with extreme vileness, it's OK ... it's no big deal ... if the US commander works out of an office in Virginia.
Genocide, torture, mass murder, human slaughter, human massacre, holocaust to clean out those alleged "Reds" in the DR?
"So what?"
After all, the US savages in charge of the barbarity work out of an office in Virginia.
If a US imperialist-generated virus were to wipe out the whole population of Canada, GC, the Crackpot of the Yukon, would say "So What?" The virus comes out of Virginia.
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Evidently, most of the people of the DR "wants to be part of a socialist state" if they are given a democratic choice and if they are not invaded, occupied, rounded up into US concentration camps and slaughtered by the tens of thousands by the US imperialists and other US savages, especially US Marines and US mercenaries, while the despicable rightwing of the Dominican bourgeoisie stands by and cheers every Dominican slaughtered by the US imperialists.
The mission has always been to stomp out Communism and cruel murderous dictators.
Be reminded Belial that no matter how much you rant and rave you will alwaysbe talking to yourself.
Belial, this is true .....
GC, your lucky you did not say anything bad about CaaMaño ... He's my hero
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Yours isn't, since none exists.
Arcatype, do you agree with GC who argues if evil originates in Virginia, it's good?
Arcatype, is there, by chance, a spot of DR territory that permits this miraculous transformation of evil into good, like GC says occurs in Virginia, USA?
If there is such a spot, I suggest that you visit it, Arcatype.
You guys are always on Belial, you should respect other peoples comments. I respect GC’s comments even thou he is not even Dominican. Or even for that island at all.
I chillaxin coming from a family that fought in the war, knows a great deal of the subject.
What you fail to understand is that every country should have the RIGHT to choose their own Government. Not have some one posted for them like Trujillo and Balaguer.
It was and will always be open season on "Commies" for those of us who grew up knowing they had had their missles pointed at us.
And no I am not talking about the Grassy Knoll stupid!!!!!!!!
Nothing has changed.
Foul and vile reactionaries in the USA and DR today openly celebrate and feel joy over the 2,000,000 Iraqi people killed as a result of US lies and aggression.
It was and will always be open season on "Commies" for those of us who grew up knowing they had had their missles pointed at us.
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What do you think, that DR is the only country that the U.S. has invaded.
History of U.S. Interventions in Latin America
http://www2.truman.edu/~marc/resources/interventions.html
3000+ civilians got killed during that invasion, not to mention, all the killings Balaguer did after they left.
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The US Army customarily writes histories of the instances in which it mass murders and slaughters people on a grand scale, once a couple of decades have passed after the massacres.
The imperial history of the US 1965 aggression against the DR or Operation Power Pack, as US imperialists call their Dominican aggression, claims "3000 civilians" were killed.
This is bigger lie than today's casualties counts by pro-imperialists of war-related deaths in Iraq where something like 2,000,000 people have been killed as a result of the US lies and aggression while imperialist apologists and reactionaries claim only 60.000 to 80,000 have perished.
In the DR, the US savages in1965 slaughtered people left and right. The US savages didn't even care which side -- i.e., constitutionalist or loyalist -- you were on. They had a job to do ... i.e., murder a lot of people
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Pappabowie is saying George Jr. hanged Saddam after his father, George Sr. failed to hang Saddam.
And McCain Jr. may finally enslaved the DR totally and permanently after his father McCain Sr. failed to finish the job the father started in 1965.
Pappabowie, is the type of reactionary that Dominican bourgeois reactionaries love and adore.
Dominican bourgeois reactionaries wish all US citizens were like pappabowie in mentality and morality.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
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By "our back yard," what pappabowie is saying is that not only is the Dominican Republic the property of the US imperialists, but also the Dominican people [... "you ARE" ... ] are the property of the US imperialists.
Pappabowie gives good advice when he says "best to watch yourselves," because the US imperialists intend to use what's in their backyard.
What is the significance of "our" as in "our back yard" or, in other words, who is "our?"
"Our" is the reationary sector of the US people, about a third of the population or 100 million US citizens, who are rotten to the core with imperialist mentality and morality.
The other two-thirds of the US people detest this foul "our or this foul "we" as they like to call themselves.
Most US citizens are not imperialist lunatics, but many are.
Aww.. Come on Bellyache I was just trying to get a rise out of you, but seriously territory stattus would be nice , no taxes accountable Govt. a vast welfare state for you and yours... figured you would be on board... Check out this link of your "homie" Barak Osama's most vehement supporters , Kind of makes you wonder if it's in our best interest to throw our lot in with those that veiw beating women and raping children as actions sanctioned by god, the Quran it's in there I promise. It would make you sick to see what these 'people' veiw as moral.
You are just bitter, because Castro would probably out live your old ass.
What the hell happen, i thought as the older one gets, you get Wiser, in your case is the opposite.
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Speaking of U.S. backyards, why in the Hell is DR celebrating july the 4th today, shit does not make sense.
Is it a sign that trouble is brewing between Raul and Fidel? Or perhaps even Raul couldn't stand reading his brother's diatribes any longer.
Your very welcome. By the way how is the Opium Poppy plantation coming along in Afghan. I heard that ever since U.S. invaded, growing and sales have skyrocketed. You got to love Capitalism huh ViejoCulonial
"Belial are you including the current killings of civilians, currently taking place in Iraq as well?"
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
time2rize asks.
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Yeah.
I really begin with John Hopkin II study [ also called Lancet II] released in Oct. 2006 which found 650,000 war-related Iraqi deaths after 2003.
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles....nals/lancet/s0140673606694919.pdf
This was the PRE-SURGE rate of US genocide against the Iraqi people when you consider that John Hopkins University I [or Lancet I] found 100,000 war-related deaths in Oct 2004.
So the PRE-SURGE rate of US genocide was as of Oct 2006 determined as follows:
(650,000 less 100,000) divided by 24 months is 22, 916 Iraqi war-related deaths per month.
In Sept 2007, Opinion Research Business in the UK found that over 1.2 milion Iraqis had perished as a result of the war since 2003.
http://www.opinion.co.uk/Newsroom_details.aspx?NewsId=78
To determine the SURGE rate of US genocide against the Iraqi people:
(1,200,000 [ORB] less 650,000 [John Hopkins II] divided by 9 months [ the period from the Oct 2006 John Hopkins II release to the Sept 2007 ORB survey release ] yields a US genocide rate of 61,111 Iraqis murdered per month.
Your question is: ought we use SURGE or PRE-SURGE rate of genocide to estimate casulaties for the 10-month period following the ORB survey.
So, EITHER:
61, 111 [ the surge rate of US genocide] X 10 months [period between Sept 2007 and July 2008] = 611,110 [the number killed after Sept 2007]
Thus, the 1,200,000 [the number killed before Sept 2007] + 611,110 [ after Sept 2007] = 1.8 million Iraqis have died as a result of US lies and aggression since 2003.
OR
22,916 [PRE-SURGE rate of genocide] X 10 momths = 229,160 [the number killed after Sept 2007]
So, at the pre-surge rate, the total number of Iraqi deaths in around 1.4 million since 2003.
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All non-lunatics.
You know if only 1 in 4 of those Iraqis are alquad sympethizers then according to ol' Bellache we took out 350,000 compared to 4000 American lives lost, that's a pretty damn good average, How can we not be winning this war ? at this rate if they dont straighten up and do right there wont be any Iraqis in another 10 years :)
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There is something perceptive about pappabowie, this extreme reactionary who is extraordinarily candid about the adventures of US imperialism.
"If only 1 in 4 of those Iraqis are alquad sympethizers ," he says.
Exactly, murder four Iraqis at random, you are bound to get at least one Iraqi who at least "sympathizes" with the Iraqi patriotic resistance against foreign aggression and occupation.
In other words, US imperialists' strategy is the extermination of the Iraqis and so far about 1 out every 25 Iraqis has perished as a result of the Bush's lies and aggression.
The same strategy of US-inflicted genocide was used in the DR in 1965, but the Dominican patriots, then, weren't as tough as the Iraqis today.
Even with WWII type genocide, McCain argues "we" must stay in Iraq; for otherwise, there be a "bloodbath."
As if almost 2,000,000 dead is not a "bloodbath."
Chiilie boy Chill out ! LMAO
How much do you think we could sell tickets for $50.00 to $100.00 easy.
2Milllion Iraq1i Civillian Dead is just propaganda. That number has been discredited time and again.
Why does anybody care what Castro's Opinion is?
I now have another reason to vote for McCain...Genetics.
I have found that most who hate the U.S.A. are just jealous slackers.
Happy Independence day everyone!!!!!
That sounds about right doesn't it..
Go figure we had a Texan President calling the shots then as well.
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The US imperialists slaughtered 3,000 Dominican patriots within hours of their landing Apr. 28 1965,, then the imperialists and their mercenaries branched out, grabbing, torturing, murdrering anybody however nebulous their connection with the glorious patriotic resistance to foreign lies and foreign aggression.
Killing patriots right and left, the vile pro US imperialist scum and the filthy US savages, especially the US Marines, belittle the degree of degeneracy and cowardice they displayed in a key moment of the class struggle.
We are talking dead communists here.
Nobody cried!
Nobody cares about them except their families. their families shouldn't cry because it is they're fault that they are dead. If they loved them they wouldn't have let them grow up with such selfish, infantile beliefs.
"Perhaps, this should happen again as a reminder"
Reid Cabral himself has written, confirming the actual Johnson telephone tapes, that the US was a reluctant partner in the pacification of Santo Domingo. Dozens of factions not under Camaacho were indiscriminately shooting and looting. Add to that the deaths by tigueres unleashed in the anarchy that reigned for weeks into months.
McCain's purported comment can also be translated to mean "people lose their desire for strongmen when they have education and know how to perform civic duties civilly". Not inappropriate under the extreme disorder at the time.
The pseudo intellectuals posting their agitprop here shall, as history demonstrates, be the first to be marched to the wall in their new socialist paradise, should it befall them.
McCain's purported comment can also be translated to mean "people lose their desire for strongmen when they have education and know how to perform civic duties civilly". Not inappropriate under the extreme disorder at the time.
The pseudo intellectuals posting their agitprop here shall, as history demonstrates, be the first to be marched to the wall in their new socialist paradise, should it befall them."....THANK YOU PELAUT
Just when the Obama surrogates start working down their list of hits on McCain (what they call 'smears' when it's done to them), the near comatose Comandante Fidel rouses himself to write an editorial exposing McCain as the scion of a gringo Latino-eating ogre. They've also hired Torito -- a TRULY magnificent stroke the country club Repubs can't begin to comprehend. That took discriminating musical appreciation and some grip on Latino culture. Let's hope it brings bachata to mainstream US music.
However, that they were able to conscript the surrogates of El Maestro de La Habana to their cause demonstrates a degree of ideological intercourse that's scary.
"Perhaps, this should happen again as a reminder"
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Let me remind you that we are not living in the same times, it would not be that easy.
The purpose of the military occupation was to keep rabid mad dogs like you out of power.
Simple!
http://www.prensa-latinaenglish.com/article.asp?ID={3C78DBE2-6563-4F7E-AF82-3E3A21BE45F9})&language=EN
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Indubitably, the mayors of Spanish towns are the most perceptive and truthful people.
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"Rabid mad dog."
Surely, not me.
Nor were the Dominicans who Dec. 20, 1962, democratically elected Juan Bosch by a landslide to serve as their president "mad dogs" whether rabid or otherwise.
The "mad dogs" were the US imperialists who with saliva dripping from their mouths overthrew Dominican democracy on September 25, 1963, using pro-imperialists puppies in Dominican military.
Nor was Francisco Caamaño who on April 24, 1965, led the struggle to restore democracy, the constitutionality and the rule of law by dismanling the puppet dictatorship the US imperialists imposed on the Dominican people.
Four days later, April 28, 40,000 the slimy dogs, malignant hypocrites, and "democracy-talking" scum of the US imperialism ... the armed forces of the US imperialists ... invaded, occupied and slaughtered Dominicans, installing another puppet dictatorship in the process.
"During the seven months Bosch held power he repeatedly refused to do what the US imperialists told him, claiming, like a fool, that he was only accountable to the Dominican people in whom supreme power resided and who elected him president of the DR. He unequivocally and categorically refused to serve as a puppet of the US imperialists. So, we had no choice but to go in, remove him, put in our people, and shoot everybody who dissented and then some. We deeply regret that an accommodation couldn't be worked out, but under no circumstances will we let a Dominican president tell us what he can and cannot do in the Dominican Republic. "
Naturally, the US imperialists haven't repented in the least, for on Feb. 24, 2004, they did the same thing in Haiti, under the cover of their usual pack of lies.
The pseudo intellectuals posting their agitprop here shall, as history demonstrates, be the first to be marched to the wall in their new socialist paradise, should it befall them. Says Pelaut the policy wonk and expert on spewers of drivel like you belial
The pseudo intellectuals posting their agitprop here shall, as history demonstrates, be the first to be marched to the wall in their new socialist paradise, should it befall them," the cagey, sneaky, and underhanded GC says,
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See everybody. What did I tell ya?
Democracy-talking reactionaries of imperialism are profoundly two-faced.
Behind all of the empty democracy-talk and worthless human rights-talk stands nothing but a genocidal fiend.
A fiend bereft of morality, legality, and rationality.
This fiend is a horrible thing that craves the death of others, not so much for power or money or fame, but for the pleasure it feels only when it kills.
Verily, this fiend is a filthy, slimy, rotten, and greasy thing. "Let me touch you. Let me embrace you," this wild animal asks of humanity.
Beware.
COLONEL (also rear) ELIAS WESSIN: I killed only 5 Dominicans yesterday, but I tortured 50.
ADMIRAL McCAIN: You like to torture, don't you?
COLONEL WESSIN: Well, you get more screams when you torture.
ADMIRAL: I like to murder because it cuts down on the noise.
COLONEL: Different folks, different strokes.
ADMIRAL McCAIN: Pass that boy over here, right now.
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Evil is stunningly shameless but sincere about what it believes about itself.
Of course, what it believes about itself is false.
Evil is often conceited -- "I'm better than I am" and arrogant "I'm better than you."
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The Zionist book on divne beings and things says Satan or "the Light" before he went really bad had these two feelings. He believed he was better than he really was and far better than everybody else.
I don't believe that conceit and arrogance are the essence of evil, for that honor clearly belongs to envy and malice.
But conceit and arrogance seem closely related to this peculiar "light."
Naturally, the bourgeois, a bag of slime and garbage, believes he's better than he really is and believes he is far better than the "unwashed," the "losers," the proletarian masses, and the stinking middle class.
I believe that the conceit and arrogance of the bourgeois "lights" extinguished long ago his capacity for the feeling of righteous indignation and for compassion necessary for true humanity, leaving only a filthy animal craving insatiably conquest and plunder.
Why are the sons of the party chiefs groomed from day one to be in the ruling class? An individual I know that grew up under communism... They said life was easier to survive. However the ability to rise above an elitist class enforced station was impossible. If a person was born to the peasant class then that is where you remained. Your career, education, job all was predetermined for you. Sort of like farm livestock.
Why is Fidel’s brother his replacement? Why did the government of North Korea fall from father to son? It is nothing more than a new monarchy with a new name with medieval rights.
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Naw ViejoCulonial,
Im actually doing pretty good, but sadly i cannot said the same for Dominicans, who i see struggling everyday. So because im doing well, am i just suppose to pretend , like shit is not F@#$ up for My Peoples everyday. Is it not because of Capitalism that the World is suffering at the Moment?
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Merit.
Five top ranking "Granma" commanders among the Cuban revolutionaries -- (1) Fidel, (2) Che, (3) Camilo, (4) Raul, and (5) Juan.
Che and Camilo are not the replacement because they are dead. Perhaps you accept death as a disqualification for public office.
When Fidel got under the weather, only Raul and Juan were left of the original revolutionary giants.
They ... the deputies in the national legislature ... went for Raul because he for 50 years has held more important posts than Juan and Raul performed extremely well on numerous
missions assigned to him.
But in you simplistic head, they went for Raul over Juan solely or chiefly because Raul is a Castro.
You suffer from a disposition to repeat every lie you read in the cappie press as if it were your original thought.
Don't over indulge yourself.
Perhaps you have not been aware of it, dread, but the second national phobia of the DR is the yankeephobia, although this last one is less pronounced than the way you would find it on other places of Latin America, like Argentina, for example.
Do I agree with socialism? not completely but every time I drive on a highway I am using a socialist sponsored service. When I fly into an airport I am using collective built structure.
When I flip a light switch I am connected to a socialist program also. In the Dominican Republic and lately the West Coast of the US it is a failed system.
But you answered my question he inherited the job as a birth right.
When I build my home in the DR using my war profiteering money from my job in Afghanistan I will have my own power and water system independent of Petro Caribe or the Government. I will produce my own food so that I do not pay import taxes to a corrupt government and my life style will be my own responsibility.
In to former Soviet Union the harvest was scheduled in Moscow regardless of whether it was time or not. Some food would rot in the field and other food would be harvested too early.
So slowly but surly Beliels Paradise is hapening.
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Identical to Enron's "free" and "de-regulated" energy market propaganda which as usual was a cover for operations, accounting, and securities fraud.
Once the bourgeoisie in the energy industry got itself de-regulated, it stole from everybody and electricity rates rose considerably.
Right now, oil speculators are "competing" in the free market with one another to raise ... not lower ... oil prices. As a result, the fuel bills, including electricity, have risen and the number of business and individual bankruptcies have soared during the first six mmonths of this year due to this "competition" that reactionaries palmed off as a panacea for economic ills.
The "un-regulated" market place presupposes that the capitalist is honest when in reality the most cappies are thieves, looters, and liars.
"Little over $100 million," the cappie replies.
"What was the total you distributed as dividends?"
"Oh, little under $20 million. That comes out to 31 cent a share" the cappie replies.
Cappie running dogs and servile reactionaries who always cringe before the bourgeoisie are so stupid that they can't figure out that they are being ripped off big time in the "free" market rife with "competition" over the suckers' wallets.
"The SEC hasn't said anything," a slimy and servile running dog of the cappies points out. "So, I guess everything is alright."
Say goodbye to your 401K dumbass.
JOHN JR: Pa, why you kill Dominicans.
ADMIRAL: They're living.
JOHN JR: I bet I'll kill more Vietnamese than the Dominicans you get, Pa.
ADMIRAL: Didn't they teach you anything at Annapolis? After I get tired killing Dominicans, an operation which I will command, I'll fly to Vietnam and take command of killing Vietnamese. So, how are you are tell your kills from mine?
JOHN JR: Pa, I didn't think of that. Let's pray to God and to his Son that you get a lot and I get a lot.
ADMIRAL: Amen.
[God blessed both of them.]
[For the record, in mid-1968, Pa, the decorated butcher of Dominicans, was named commander of all U.S. forces -- land, naval, and air -- in Vietnam. His extraordinary savagery in the Dominican Republic was highly and widely admired in Washington.]
"What? You don't forgive him. Come on, now, my father was just very good at his job."
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US Marines are for the most part cowards who implement genocide operations against unarmed civilians to keep the kill ratio between US forces and the "enemy" something like either 300 or 400 murders to 1 US casualty.
And, your question: What is the likely outcome if your 'Red" peace marchers stand against a brigade of U.S. Marines?"
The outcome will depend on whether the red peace marchers are armed.
If they are armed, the marines will likely turn around, go somewhere and get drunk.
If they are not armed, the marines will likely call for an air strike on the marchers. After the air strike, the marines will likely charge and bayonet the lifeless bodies.
And good thing about the Venezuelans and Iranians is that they both have oil. Just what the US imperialists need at this time. So, the Venezuelans and Iranians will be better victims of US genocide than the Dominicans who had almost nothing back in '65.
If the PRD returns to power in 2012, the PRDs wil likelyl send DR troops to Venezuela and Iran along side the imperialist forces like PRDs did in Iraq in 2003.
"The Zionist book on divne beings and things says Satan or "the Light" before he went really bad had these two feelings. He believed he was better than he really was and far better than everybody else."
Do you want a look at the "the Light" of evil in its material form.
Examine the picture at the top of this thread to the left of the DT article, depicting the evil commander of (1) US forces, (2) the Dominican Republic, (3) the army, marines, navy, and air force.
The sardonic and depraved smile, the difficulty of the Light of evil mixing with sunlight that shone down from his left, leaving patches of great darkness under his helmet, the eyes that seem devoid of eyeballs, the mathematically impossible shadow that his foul head cast on the upper right side of his body.
Satan, the so-called "Light," visited the DR in 1965. Now, his son wants to visit.
Woe to the poor souls who lived there in 1965 and who live there if junior wins.
"We plan to pay tribute to Latin American heroes like Marti, Simon Bolivar, the fathers of the Dominican homeland, Gomez, Ramon Matias Mella and Juan Pablo Duarte, and guerrilla Ernesto Che Guevara," he noted ...
Gonzalez-Coya went on to say their goal is to denounce the situation of five Cuban antiterrorists held in US prisons after a trial in which the principles of US and international law were violated.
http://www.prensa-latinaenglish.com/article.asp?ID={BD10C320-BA50-4F1F-99F2-B0F6A4B5318C})&language=EN
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[ US citizens have to go to the movies to find heroes today, but these citizens can't pay tribute to these cinematic "heroes" because they are fictitious. Phonies.]
[ US bourgeois society largely rejects its giants -- Lincoln, Debs, Foster, FDR, Parks, and King, because they were good.]
Bosch immediately launched a deep restructuring of the country. On April 29, he promulgated a new Constitution, extremely advanced for its time. The Constitution for the first time in dominican history, declared specific labour rights, and mentioned unions, pregnant women, homeless people, the family, rights for the child and the young, for the farmers, and for illegitimate children.
Less than two years later, growing dissatisfaction generated another military rebellion on April 24, 1965, that demanded Bosch's restoration. The insurgents, commanded by Colonel Francisco Caamaño, removed the junta from power but on April 28, the United States, ostensibly to protect foreigners, intervened in the civil war and dispatched 42,000 troops to the island in Operation Power Pack, just as Caamaño (the leader of the Constitutionalists) said "war would be already over if the U.S. had not intervened." President Lyndon B. Johnson justified the invasion based on fears that the Dominican Republic was turning into "a second Cuba."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Bosch
Here is another resource.
http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/yates/yates.asp
Some of the most distinguished posters in this forum told me that you belong in a zoo.
I strongly disagreed with the idea.
Most animals in zoos are well-behaved.
It will surely bring disrepute down on a zoo that gave you a cage.
For the level of civility and decorum customary at zoos far exceeds your social skills.
So, where do you belong?
You belong in a packing house that makes soap.
plain and simple the whole truth of those years,
as I suspected, the tonyC man and Goulet see a commish even in their dreams,
maybe they both were birds of the same nest in those years,
Goulet my man, you are dissapointing, thought differently of you,
but you are so far right hand conservative, it is difficult to see you,
Go Belial, smash them up.
http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/yates/yates.asp
Either way No one wants to vote for McCain........
The US imperialists today uses modern and cutting-edge strategy and tactics to commit genocide.
Manufactured famine is very popular with the imperialists.
Switchgrass, an extremely common kind of grass in the USA, produces 1000 gallons of ethanol per acre, compared to 665 gallons for sugarcane and 400 gallons for corn.
For every unit of energy input, switchgrass yields four units out. For every unit of energy input, sugarcane produces two units out.
Corn yields only one extra unit out over input.
Naturally, US imperialists massively subsidizes the use of corn, the least efficient bio-material, to make ethanol and appropriate only scraps and crumbs for ethanol production from grass and sugarcane.
Why do the filthy and savage US imperialists pick the most inefficient kind of bio-material to make ethanol?
CON"T
Simple.
The subsidy-driven diversion of a third of the already inadequate world corn crop from food consumption to fuel production causes a tremendous famine and holocaust that will rapidly exterminate tens of million, perhaps hundreds of millions of people which capitalism feels no need to exploit but who consume.
The free trade hypocrites in the USA and EU even use stiff tariffs to block imports of cheaper sugarcane-based ethanol from Brazil while USA and EU develop their vile and inhuman corn-based ethanol industry.
The difference between US genocide today and German genocide in the 1930s and '40s is US genocide aims to exterminate the mass of the human population whereas German genocide seemed more targeted at specific groups, especially Communists. The absolutely stunning similarity between the two programs of genocide is that the mass of humanity largely denies their occurrence out of either indifference or malice.
Capitalism is filth.
THE END
Here is another resource.
http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/yates/yates.asp
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Thanks for the Link Jander, but do you have any thing else that is not from the The US Army Command and General Staff College website.
Oh i read it alright, up to the part of "The United States intervention in the Dominican Republic was successful. It accomplished the mission of preventing a Communist takeover and providing the military presence to make a political settlement possible. "
" In some respects, the U S intervention in the Dominican Republic was a dress rehearsal for Vietnam."
"Its like asking the the killers to justify there killings."
If you do not like Wiki go to
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/74607/Juan-Bosch
A very faulty rehearsal indeed, were we to judge the results that weren't achieved on the vietnamese front. Plus, the vietnamese were really carrying the struggle with the will to fight up to the point of leaving their country in smoking ruins, if it meant that they'd get to deny the yankees its possession, a will that would shine for its absence on the dominican case.
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On moral and legal grounds, I don't believe or indulge in torture.
Torture is a favored thing by imperialists as well as their mange and mouth-foaming running dogs.
[By the way, do Canadian running dogs of US imperialists when they meet a US imperialist still fall down on their backs, stick their four paws in the air, and expose their soft underbelly to the imperialist?]
[GC, what are you trying to say when you perform these maneuvers before the imperialist?]
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LMAO keepem coming!!
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The above poses the US problem of evil that cripples a third of the US population.
The hard thing to understand about evil is that it's more than feeling the wrong way, namely pain about what's good and pleasure about what's rotten. And merely doing bad things. Evil requires something else -- a knowledge that something wrong, but a belief is its validity anyway or, in short, the wrong principle upstairs.
Murder is unjustified and unprovoked killing of a human being.
"So, the US murders in the DR were successful," evil believes.
The imperialists used lies about commies as a justification to crush Dominican sovereignty, democracy, the rule of rule and impose pro-imperialist dictatorship.
They used feigned "alarm" over the safety of US tourists as a provocation to murder Dominicans.
Imperialists killed at least 50,000 Dominicans.
Don't you see?
The US murders were successful.
You still don't get it, do it?
Try this.
"The hard thing to understand about evil is that it's more than feeling the wrong way, namely pain about what's good and pleasure about what's rotten. And merely doing bad things. Evil requires something else -- a knowledge that something wrong, but a belief is its validity anyway or, in short, the wrong principle upstairs."
(1) "feeling the wrong way, namely pain about what's good and pleasure about what's rotten"
The USAs enjoyed killing Dominicans which was a rotten thing.
(2) And merely doing bad things.
The USAs actually KILLED at least 50,000 Dominicans, a rotten thing they enjoyed.
(3) " a knowledge that something is wrong, but a belief is its validity anyway or, in short, the wrong principle upstairs."
The USAs knew what they were doing.
Don't give me the crap about "Forgive them father, they know not what they do," so, they ain't evil.
USAs knew murder was wrong, like it, and did it.
"This was an uncouth Pinochet begotten by the United States in the Caribbean. The despot had been the result of one of the Yankees’ military interventions in the island that country shares with Haiti, a country which was the first Spanish colony."
The irony is that Chilean intellectuals of the 60s would write about how their country never produced such monsters as Trujillo and that such a thing could never happen there only to see a similiar monster arise in their own midst. Never look down on other societies people for you never know what the future entails for your own.
LOL