Franklin Almeyda. File photo.
SANTO DOMINGO.- Interior and Police minister Franklin Almeyda today Friday justified the retirement of Police generals, affirming that it still has 40 more than it needs, because “it can be efficient with 10 or 15,” without the need for so many commanders and few soldiers.
He said the population feels that it must pay a toll to be on the streets. “When a police stops a citizen, these knows that they must put their hands in thjeir pockets to deal with the situation.”
Interviewed by Oscar Medina and Cristian Jiménez in the Hoy Mimso TV program, the official didn’t specify if those extra generals should also be placed on retirment.
On Wednesday, president Leonel Fernandez placed 10 Police generals on retirement, among them Rafael Guerrero Peralta, Crescencio Jáquez Hernandez, Valentin Rosado Vicioso, and Yuri Ruiz Villalona.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
40 more excellent idea..........Kick them to the curb
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
Como que Cuarenta Generales? 40, como en la Cuarenta? Ofrezcome!
How do you justify a Police General? There are no cops capable of accomplishing the rank of General. This is totally far-fetched. Generals are military ranks for military forces. If you investigate robberies, intercede in domestic matters, insure law and order, you can not reach General Rank.
The top cop in any police force is a Commander or Chief Inspector; Not a General?
Next: Another top rank shake-up?
Something is cooking, and I know it ain't the rock.
When you see a restaurant owner shake up his staff; Firing maittre-d's, laying off waiters, gettin' rid of chefs, and switching bus boys around. Something is changing in the scheme of things. Maybe, a new menu? Cuidao' que no se pase la yuca! O, se quemen las Habichuelas!
Como decia Johnny: "La tres papas estan seguras, si gana Jonny Ventura". Bueno, no fue Johnny quien gano, papo! Disque, Johnny se la ganaba "Sin palito Y sin pipa". Que pasa papo
From: United States
Hard to say it better than Arsenio. What kind of clownish machismo is this. FORTY GENERALS in a police force?!?
Written by: ABR23, 29 Aug 2008 4:13 PM
From: Puerto Rico
How do you think 40 guys fell right now. Well at least 20 guys.
There was one guy that went from Sgt to Col and his principal duties was Sammy Sosa's
Chief of Security. Hey, Sammy retired, well so do you.
Written by: jonjrs, 29 Aug 2008 4:37 PM
From: United States, Miami, FL
It's a different type of command structure for the police, as opposed to the Armed Forces, which are based on the US Armed Forces command structure. Don't know who they got it from, but it's not the only country to have generals or a National Police. Matter of fact, we have a national police department in the US as well. Oh, that's right, it's called the FBI....
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
ABR23
There was one guy that went from Sgt to Col and his principal duties was Sammy Sosa's
Chief of Security. Hey, Sammy retired, well so do you......".Corky "will be back wait and see so just make the General a corporal until" Corky "needs him again
Written by: ABR23, 29 Aug 2008 6:23 PM
From: Puerto Rico
So if the FBI is a national police, who is their General. The " Attorney General". (JOKE)
Many State Police Organizations have ranks NJ troopers are CPL, SGT, MSG, LT, Capt, Majors and 1 Col.
NYPD Has Sgt, LT, Cpt, Dep Inspectors (MAJORS) and Inspectors (COL) also have rank.
Trujillo formed the P.N. then made it the Army and switched it Back to PN, but with ranks.
In PR the Dept of the Navy which used to run the territory until late 1940's. established the police force and they use naval ranks/insginias.
So the thread is not what they call it. It is what do they "DO" and how many do we need.
We could switch their title to Special Agent In Charge (SAC) a la USA and there are still to many of them, who do nothing.
From: United States
manhattanite, nobody says it better than Arsenio, the master of the written word. the august Mr Almeida says there are "forty generals too many". i wonder what the real total is? probably more than there are in the rest of the region, combined. and, Arsenio, care to speculate , or elucidate, upon what you surmise might be brewing in the anterooms of politics?
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Franklin Almeyda is not being invited to many military functions and social events these days...unless its a costume party ...he could go as the grim reaper
From: United States, New York City
DR the next Cuba?
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Not if "Porno for Ricardo" has its way
From: United States
they should retired all of them,the only thing they are good for is drinking, and stealing,and making other people life miserable.
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
Sr Almeyda, if there is truly an EXCESS of 40 Generals, as Minister of Interior and Police, isn't it incumbent upon you to place those identified as EXCESS TO REQUIREMENTS on leave aprior to RETIRING them to civilian life?
That would be theEFFICIENT and FITTING thing to do instead of making thefact PUBLIC causing embarrasment toboth YOU and the Ministery.
You should really learn to keep your mouth out of gear.
It is Ministers like you who are creating the problems in this country through your lack of effecient and austere management(??), then you have theaudacityto reveal that you are aware of the problem, but aren;t willing to do anything about it.
he ONLY HONORABLE thing to do is retire these Generals, then resign from office yourself for being so silly as to think people respect you.
TexasBill
From: United States, NJ
TB:
Well said .My cousin i grew up with does not belong in that possision . He is over qualify but does not know the first thing about commanding or keeping his mouth shut and let a public relation do all the talking for him.I guess a politician is a politician first .
As interior minister there is a lot to cover as well as re-organizing the police force on a civilian style and get rid of those military titles that puts a country closer to a military state(dictatorship).
As i mentioned before DR is full of lawyers doing nothing. It is their responsability to help out as well . Franklin was doing ok under Balaguer as minister of education ,i just don't know what happened to him, once a rector of the University of Santo Domingo? I guess the pay got better.
I know he is a lawyer in international law but don't know how good his administration skill is .
At any rate TB you had say it right" if the glove fits wear it". Had i been in politics i would had cut
military expend.for educat.
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
Thelmo;
I have to admit that some of the "police establishments" in the States, on a city andcounty level, aren't the"shining examples" that they should be, but these organizations move very quickly to eliminate any corruption that comes to the surface.
Much of the idealism is inculcated into the minds of the recruits at the time they are being trained for law enforcement. A great number join these ranks each year that got their original training while in the Military Establishment, and while some have since "fallen by the wayside", by and large, the majority are very dedicated Oficers of the Law andcome down real hard on those who "break the rules". Especialy those in the "Internal Affair Branch" of each entity.
The problem here seems to be in breaking the national syndrome of "me first" andthe use of the government to get what they want on an individual basis. There are plenty of "good cops" in the force; the problem is in identifying and promoting them to supervisory positions.
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
One of the other problems is in identifying and removing all the "OLD SCHOOL" hangers-on and replacing them with young and dedicated Officers and supervisors who are both rewarded for good conduct and pursuit of TRUE law enforceent efforts with bonuses and promotion.
If this requires a complete replacement effort, then that is what should be done.
Retire all of them after a complete review of performance, and if necessary, start all over again with "fresh blood", if that is what it will take. Never mind that many are your friends or relatives, just CLEAN UP THE CORRUPTION and INEFFICIENCY while MODERNIZING the ENTIRE SYSTEM. Hire a few INTERPOL Supervisors to do the job for you. They are by far the BEST, and are very modern in their overall management.( I think the FBI is entirely too embroiled in bureaucratic thinking to be of much help).
That being said, we can only hope that some "higher-up" will take the ball and run with it.
How about them apples??
TB
From: United States, NJ
TB;
That was good article above,specialy the one you mentioned about the interpol as supervisors.
That is good if the gvt wants to spend the money on high salaries, which at the end will be cheapper since they will not have all those perks that comes with it and 20 men protection as if
they were invading another country.Again those are clasified as political post.
The main thing is to start out transfering high ranking officers to the armed forces where they started out from and give them a taste of what war is all about by doing the same thing EL SALVADOR is doing in Irak At least for a tour, brigade size and rotate them.Then you will see how many of them will stay in the military. Those that want to finish their carreer as soldiers
could stay.Also a little training with the ANCG will do the trick for those that come back alive.
Again i stress the fact if they are to use nationals as they should, pull them from the nation's law department ,but keep political appt. out.
From: United States
where have you been , Mr Rancier? help! we need you more than ever now!
From: United States, NJ
dreadlocks & TB
You know the words(poliguardias). Today they are national guards not even cosidered soldiers in my book and tomorrow they are cops). I would call this besides corruption at the highest level "thugs"that protect special interest for additional pay. In Italiy are known as the black hand
"cosa nostra" and MAFFIA.
The DR gvt does not want to get it thru their thick skull. The days of "poliguardias" are over in modern time. It was used in Trujillo's days to intimidate the population and keep them in check.
The mussollini,Hitler,Stalin days are over.These were FACSIST days. Now if we want to resemble the USA, France or British ways we must change our ways similar to theirs.
Again as we discussed the police department which my dear cousin Franklin has not been able to fix Quality has its price and if you want good police personnel ,you would have to pay higher wages accordingly after a good trainning in a police ACADEMY.
Do you agree with me?
TAR
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How do you justify a Police General? There are no cops capable of accomplishing the rank of General. This is totally far-fetched. Generals are military ranks for military forces. If you investigate robberies, intercede in domestic matters, insure law and order, you can not reach General Rank.
The top cop in any police force is a Commander or Chief Inspector; Not a General?
Next: Another top rank shake-up?
Something is cooking, and I know it ain't the rock.
When you see a restaurant owner shake up his staff; Firing maittre-d's, laying off waiters, gettin' rid of chefs, and switching bus boys around. Something is changing in the scheme of things. Maybe, a new menu? Cuidao' que no se pase la yuca! O, se quemen las Habichuelas!
Como decia Johnny: "La tres papas estan seguras, si gana Jonny Ventura". Bueno, no fue Johnny quien gano, papo! Disque, Johnny se la ganaba "Sin palito Y sin pipa". Que pasa papo
There was one guy that went from Sgt to Col and his principal duties was Sammy Sosa's
Chief of Security. Hey, Sammy retired, well so do you.
There was one guy that went from Sgt to Col and his principal duties was Sammy Sosa's
Chief of Security. Hey, Sammy retired, well so do you......".Corky "will be back wait and see so just make the General a corporal until" Corky "needs him again
Many State Police Organizations have ranks NJ troopers are CPL, SGT, MSG, LT, Capt, Majors and 1 Col.
NYPD Has Sgt, LT, Cpt, Dep Inspectors (MAJORS) and Inspectors (COL) also have rank.
Trujillo formed the P.N. then made it the Army and switched it Back to PN, but with ranks.
In PR the Dept of the Navy which used to run the territory until late 1940's. established the police force and they use naval ranks/insginias.
So the thread is not what they call it. It is what do they "DO" and how many do we need.
We could switch their title to Special Agent In Charge (SAC) a la USA and there are still to many of them, who do nothing.
That would be theEFFICIENT and FITTING thing to do instead of making thefact PUBLIC causing embarrasment toboth YOU and the Ministery.
You should really learn to keep your mouth out of gear.
It is Ministers like you who are creating the problems in this country through your lack of effecient and austere management(??), then you have theaudacityto reveal that you are aware of the problem, but aren;t willing to do anything about it.
he ONLY HONORABLE thing to do is retire these Generals, then resign from office yourself for being so silly as to think people respect you.
TexasBill
Well said .My cousin i grew up with does not belong in that possision . He is over qualify but does not know the first thing about commanding or keeping his mouth shut and let a public relation do all the talking for him.I guess a politician is a politician first .
As interior minister there is a lot to cover as well as re-organizing the police force on a civilian style and get rid of those military titles that puts a country closer to a military state(dictatorship).
As i mentioned before DR is full of lawyers doing nothing. It is their responsability to help out as well . Franklin was doing ok under Balaguer as minister of education ,i just don't know what happened to him, once a rector of the University of Santo Domingo? I guess the pay got better.
I know he is a lawyer in international law but don't know how good his administration skill is .
At any rate TB you had say it right" if the glove fits wear it". Had i been in politics i would had cut
military expend.for educat.
I have to admit that some of the "police establishments" in the States, on a city andcounty level, aren't the"shining examples" that they should be, but these organizations move very quickly to eliminate any corruption that comes to the surface.
Much of the idealism is inculcated into the minds of the recruits at the time they are being trained for law enforcement. A great number join these ranks each year that got their original training while in the Military Establishment, and while some have since "fallen by the wayside", by and large, the majority are very dedicated Oficers of the Law andcome down real hard on those who "break the rules". Especialy those in the "Internal Affair Branch" of each entity.
The problem here seems to be in breaking the national syndrome of "me first" andthe use of the government to get what they want on an individual basis. There are plenty of "good cops" in the force; the problem is in identifying and promoting them to supervisory positions.
If this requires a complete replacement effort, then that is what should be done.
Retire all of them after a complete review of performance, and if necessary, start all over again with "fresh blood", if that is what it will take. Never mind that many are your friends or relatives, just CLEAN UP THE CORRUPTION and INEFFICIENCY while MODERNIZING the ENTIRE SYSTEM. Hire a few INTERPOL Supervisors to do the job for you. They are by far the BEST, and are very modern in their overall management.( I think the FBI is entirely too embroiled in bureaucratic thinking to be of much help).
That being said, we can only hope that some "higher-up" will take the ball and run with it.
How about them apples??
TB
That was good article above,specialy the one you mentioned about the interpol as supervisors.
That is good if the gvt wants to spend the money on high salaries, which at the end will be cheapper since they will not have all those perks that comes with it and 20 men protection as if
they were invading another country.Again those are clasified as political post.
The main thing is to start out transfering high ranking officers to the armed forces where they started out from and give them a taste of what war is all about by doing the same thing EL SALVADOR is doing in Irak At least for a tour, brigade size and rotate them.Then you will see how many of them will stay in the military. Those that want to finish their carreer as soldiers
could stay.Also a little training with the ANCG will do the trick for those that come back alive.
Again i stress the fact if they are to use nationals as they should, pull them from the nation's law department ,but keep political appt. out.
You know the words(poliguardias). Today they are national guards not even cosidered soldiers in my book and tomorrow they are cops). I would call this besides corruption at the highest level "thugs"that protect special interest for additional pay. In Italiy are known as the black hand
"cosa nostra" and MAFFIA.
The DR gvt does not want to get it thru their thick skull. The days of "poliguardias" are over in modern time. It was used in Trujillo's days to intimidate the population and keep them in check.
The mussollini,Hitler,Stalin days are over.These were FACSIST days. Now if we want to resemble the USA, France or British ways we must change our ways similar to theirs.
Again as we discussed the police department which my dear cousin Franklin has not been able to fix Quality has its price and if you want good police personnel ,you would have to pay higher wages accordingly after a good trainning in a police ACADEMY.
Do you agree with me?
TAR