"The soldiers will conduct joint operations to deal with contingency situations in security, drug trafficking, people trafficking and possible terrorist attacks. "

oooo

Yeah, terrorist attacks by the US imperialists and their flunkies against LA/C countries as well as "allied" aggressions against countries outside of the region.

STFU you commie stooge. Who would have to tolerate you if you didn't have this forum to bore with your commie crap. Why not move to one of the people's paradises about which you constantly bore us. Ooh, that's right, no freedom of speech. You wouldn't be allowed to criticize any thing.

"STFU you commie stooge. Who would have to tolerate you if you didn't have this forum to bore with your commie crap. Why not move to one of the people's paradises about which you constantly bore us. Ooh, that's right, no freedom of speech. You wouldn't be allowed to criticize any thing."

0000

The above is the tiresome voice of cappie trash, pointing out its depraved preferences and expressing its degenerate dislike for good things.

Naturally,good things bore bourgeois garbage. Good things should do this to pro-imperialist filth. Whatever discomfort cappie slime suffers as a result of its undeserved exposure to good things is a matter of little, if any, consequence.

like a good child, we listen to our uncle sam. If Belial is a commie stooge, what are we who blindly follow the US, the country that invaded us and still manages much of our affairs? Like I've said in the past, the U.S. is only looking out for its own interests. If that means screwing over the whole world, so be it.

With that said, I'm not advocating to disengage with the U.S., but rather think more independently for what is better not only for the DR but for Latin America and other developing countries. Are we equal partners, or just children taking orders? Are our concerns as heeded as the U.S.'s? I think that they should.

Bladoria, you've pointed out something very interesting even more your questions which I think you know the answer to. Now without getting into communism and capitalism which isn't what this article is about. Things I would like to know is why is the US of A using taxpayers money training dominicans. We all know that Uncle Sam doesn't do things for free? What's the price that the dominican people are going to pay for whatever they have instore for this mission? We all know the answers but I refuse to believe them.

Eeeerr.....Jabao I've already given you the answer The Dominicans will help them invade Cuba. Since DR and maybe Colombia are the only Spanish speaking country that are willing to do so. DR will be the launching pad since DR is closer. Just like Kuwait was the launching pad for the war in Iraq in the beginning.

OK, you Commie A$$holes, if you think that an invasion of Cuba by the USA is on the front burner, you might consider going there to fight for THEIR country.
Thata way you can demonstrate your support PHYSICALLY the concepts you are so enamoured with.
You might occasionally admit that that system is ALSO guilty of committing the same "imperialist acts" that you are so fond of accusing the USA of committing.
Read you damn HISTORY BOOKS and lie your way out of that truth.
We ALL know what your agenda is, to foment unrest, hate and general disruption of free societies in the world. You direct your fallacious reasoning to the uneducated masses who really haven't the foggiest notion of what you are referring to with your rhetoric.
None of you really believe the crap you preach, but use it to attempt to elevate your own egos and thereby justify your existance in society.
You stupid people, don't you realize you would be the FIRST ones eliminated?
Wake up!!!
TB

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"Like a good child, we listen to our uncle sam," Baldoria says tongue-in-cheek.

oooo

Your uncle is bankrupt, both the private and state sectors. He's concerned only about his own survival.

Baldoria, I must commend your expression of judicious judgment, something that is rarely witnessed in this forum from any of the regular participants.

It is a given that as the Republic's protective food tariffs are phased out under CAFTA over the next few years, heavily subsidized US food exports to the DR will first weaken and then switch to imperialists hands the huge agricultural base of the Republic, a process similar what has happened in Mexico under NAFTA, where over 1,000,000 Mexican farmers who were once highly productive under pre-NAFTA conditions have lost their land and, driven by starvation, to swim the river and climb the wall that separates Mexico and the USA.

Once imperialists control the mass of the arable land, their cheap US food exports vanish.

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The phasing-out period for DR's protective food tariffs that CAFTA allows is supposed to give DR farmers a chance to become more "efficient," "modern" and "competitive" so that they can withstand the introduction of super-subsidized US food exports.

A farce, if there ever was one.

In Mexico, the best arable land have largely fallen into imperialist hands and those of the reactionary sector of the Mexican bourgeoisie which grow cash crops for export or allow the land to lie fallow, producing terrible inflation of food prices for domestic consumption.

As the US imperialists concentrate foreign agricultural capital in their hands, they naturally prepare, train, pay [senior officers], and equip the armed forces of satellite countries to repress savagely the masses who will eventually discover that their alternatives are either to sneak into USA and look for work to send remittances home or rebel against imperialist exploitation of their countries.

this is preparing to get rid of nutty hugo...... not raul who cares about raul he has no oil

Hugo is going down .....http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06.....html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

then we are going to Houston and drag that weasel out thru the keyhole of his rathole

"Yeah, terrorist attacks by the US imperialists and their flunkies against LA/C countries as well as "allied" aggressions against countries outside of the region," Belial politely said earlier as the initial comment.

oooo

Lamentably, my comment has been misunderstood or understood narrowly.

The comment doesn't say nor was it meant to say that the above-mentioned imperialist attacks and aggressions will be solely or mostly against third countries.

True, the US imperialists will not overlook third countries.

But, the US imperialists seek control of the DR military and police to repress Dominicans, not the peoples of third countries.

Conversely, the imperialists ... before and since FARC ... exercise hegemony of the Colombian military and police to repress Colombians, not Dominicans.

Again, if an opportunity arises to use the armed forces of satellite countries to repress a third country, say Haiti in 2004-2006, the imperialists will gleefully use them.

hugo is being cornered like a Rat

"This is preparing to get rid of nutty hugo..." GC fantasizes.

oooo

Two things about this.

First, concerned about its Petrocaribe quota, the DR may not cooperate with this imperialist plot. For the DR will never get anything even close to the Petrocaribe terms, if Venezuelan oil returns to imperialist control.

Second, since this winter may be cold one for low-income people of the USA, since crude sells for over $100 a barrel, and since Citgo sells heating oil to low-income US citizens at a 40% discount, millions of US people pray that US imperialists, who rule and oppress them, will defer their foul attacks and bestial aggressions against the Bolivarian Republic until after the winter passes.

I hope that you, GC, moved by humanitarian motives, concur on both points.

"Then we are going to Houston and drag that weasel out thru the keyhole of his rathole..." GC and his "we" threaten.

oooo

I'm too modest to mention the hole that you occupy, GC.

GC, who belongs to this "we" of yours?

This is what happens when a bunch of PhDs in psychiatry are way out of their league .. what about my meds Herr Doktors .. remember me? .. diagnosed as "mentally ill" by the distinguised panel of psychiatrists here on DT? .. where are my meds?

not likely hugo will be out on his fat behind and soon

"You stupid people, don't you realize you would be the FIRST ones eliminated?" TB warns.

oooo

TB, are you and your stupid people sure you won't be the SECOND ones eliminated?

Just kidding .. not to worry .. Doctor John has offered me free therapy .. at his clinic in the Zona Colonial .. very generous of him .. I guess he must have gotten a little concerned about the mysterious "body count" in Bani .. suspecting I might be the culprit .. after all I am very dangerous .. am I not Herr Doktor? .. rest assured Herr Doktor John .. it wasn't me .. I swear Doc .. it wasn't me .. I didn't do it .. at least I don't recall doing it ..

"This is what happens when a bunch of PhDs in psychiatry are way out of their league .. what about my meds Herr Doktors .. remember me? .. diagnosed as "mentally ill" by the distinguised panel of psychiatrists here on DT? .. where are my meds?" GC II says mysteriously.

oooo

GC II, I'm sorry that the PhDs are on your case.

But if you persist at whom [ or at who] you are, they'll will most likely leave you alone.

". Doctor John has offered me free therapy .. at his clinic in the Zona Colonial .. " GC II brags.

0000

I suppose you mean the Colonial District in Santo Domingo.

Well, I must say, GC II, that's very swanky place to get treated.

The cold war has been over a long time ago and anyone knows that cuba doesn't face a threat like the missile crisis. We don't need history listens nor are we uneducated third world people that doesn't know what they want. US of A isn't here for bashing but we can't disregard the many times it has trained troops in Latin America it was for the sole purpose of keeping this region under their complete control while manipulating the elites to keep the mass oppressed. The times have changed and many people that were oppressed have migrated to the USA and those that don't believe the fomented past will not allow another Monroe Doctrine take place again. What's the reason behind this training? Are Arabs/terrorist infiltrating latin america to come in the back door. Let's not forget that they came from the friendly neighbour up north which still get to the USA with a breeze.

I am not sorry at all .. in your "expert opinion" I am "mentally ill" .. I am very thankful that you have each shown concern for my condition .. and have offered me free advice .. I mean I could have been shelling out a fortune for the diagnosis and treatment .. instead I am getting it all for free .. here .. and treated by a distinguished panel of world reknowned psychiatrists .. you guys wrote the book on mental cases like mine .. so I "feel lucky" in a Google sort of way .. Muchas Gracias from the bottom of my perverted mind. I have begun taking the good Herr Doktor Johns course of prescribed medication .. which should inhibit my homicidal tendencies? .. no side effects or contra-indications from using the meds Herr Doktor? I hope not ..

Trujillo was a cruel dictator. To try to improve his world image he invited Koreans, Jews and other downtrodden people to find safe haven here.

Chavez is the dictator of a failed, violent country, where people are afraid to go out at night and murders are commonplace (much more so than anywhere else in the world). To try to improve his world image he, like Trujillo and other reviled dictators, tries to befriend a few people. Big Deal. Everyone still wants to leave Venezuela.

Mr. TexasBill:

Guess You figure out already where the group of commies is coming from??

Nationalitywise.....

This is why They still live in the 18 century dreaming about a past already gone.

"What's the reason behind this training?" JabaoHaitian wonders.

oooo

The US military advisors in DR are largely talent spotters.

Dominican prospects who show real promise and devotion to the interests of US imperialism will be sent to institution known all over the world as THE SCHOOL OF THE AMERICAS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_the_americas

At the US imperialist-operated School, students study basic torture, intermediate torture, and advanced torture.

Then they go on to study the three levels of genocide.

If the students complete the course with flying colors, they get a life-long debit card on a Miami bank which they can access from any ATM in the DR until an civil emergency arises when imperialists will call upon the former stucents to apply the principles they studied at the School.

Worldwide, there over 250,000 graduates. Many are today practicing their profession in Iraq as mercenaries.

"I have begun taking the good Herr Doktor Johns course of prescribed medication .. which should inhibit my homicidal tendencies?" GC II boldly states.

oooo

Splendid.

A lot of people in this forum should follow your example.

The rubber room awaits you in the luxurious Clinicagoulet in the Zonacolonial.. Dr lizard is out in the yard and Dr Turtel is down by the well

Belial, I am very skeptical of what you say but sometimes you do make some valid points. I definitely don't agree with communism and sharing my what I've worked hard for with the less fortunate or allow the government to possess my home. It's time for Cuba to liberate its people since this system has failed. Even USA a capitalistic country has a safe net where the likes of Rubi can leech off and learn how to read, write have free food lights somehthing they never dreamt of in their home land. So we can't just disregard that their system hasn't worked. It's just that their policy abroad in particular latin america doesn't lean toward the interest of the people. So where do we go from here. I still think Uncle Sam with President Obama and great advisor can make it bounce back as the leader of the world. Beats having China as a super power leading the world.

"Chavez is the dictator ..." juanb lamely criticizes a great revolutionary.

oooo

Chavez is the only president in the western hemisphere who is subject to presidential recall or removal from office by the will of the people.

In Aug. 2004, the people of Venezuela exercised their unique right of presidential recall and chose to keep Chavez in power.

No other head of state on this side of the world dares to vest such power in the hands of the people. No other has this degree of accountability to the people who elected them.

In other countries, where the president can be legally removed before the end of his term of office, it can only be done constitutionally by the legislature, not the people.

Chavez is the least dictatorial of all heads of state on this side of the earth.

If the US people had the power to recall the president, Bush, the mad cowboy, [not that he was ever elected president of the USA] would be falling down beside the rest of his mad cows.

He is circling the drain the days are numbered Chavez is going down

"Belial, I am very skeptical of what you say but sometimes you do make some valid points," JabaoHaitian shows true kindness.

oooo

Aw shucks, you shouldn't say things like that unless you speak real loud.

"He is circling the drain the days are numbered Chavez is going down" GC says wishfully?

oooo

How can even you, GC, confuse Chavez with the US financial system?

The contraband (coffee, rice and garlic), drugs, weapons, and illegals that cross the border is what is driving these training. Haiti is the source of a bulk of our problems!

The Dominican Republic, needs to convert itself into a "micro-American" super state in the region.

50 % alternative energies in daylight 50% other common energy resources

increase its military, and modernize it. ( secure the border, by building an effective wall across)

try to lower inflation at least 4% for consumer confidence, and bring more investors, that can bring jobs and tax money to the economy & at the same try to convince the private and public sector to create new variety of companies in the country that could invest in other growing countries like China, Brazil, Russia, Vietnam, Costa Rica, India ect..

Secure the citizens, by posting " mini police stations" at every corner possible. Organize the states services, like an effective universal insurance, effective bill payouts for electricity, water, garbage, ect. intensive laws that protects the properties, business, justice, ect.

Yawn.

Euromax you failed to mention INVADING HAITI.

Euromax, do you not believe that the initiatives you enumerate are things that the government would like to do, but simply is incapable of accomplishing, because of structural obstacles such as intermittent power delivery, undereducated populace, questionable work ethic, and all the other malaise with which we all are so familiar? not the least of these dysfunctions is the inborn spectre of corruption, which nullifies any efforts to achieve anything positive. so all we get is lip service..a lot of foam, a little bit of chocolate..

"Instructors of the United States Army South Command will train nine Dominican Army squads in peacekeeping operations, with exercises on situational tactics. "

Isn't the South Command responsible for the infamous academy that trained all those latin dictators and death squad commanders over the last few decades? Oh yea, indeed it is.

i think Belial alluded to that in his comments

The Z man has returned

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Written by: greenwave, 6 Aug 2008 2:23 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The contraband (coffee, rice and garlic), drugs, weapons, and illegals that cross the border is what is driving these training. Haiti is the source of a bulk of our problems!
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You are totally off subject, your obsession with Haitian is outlandish, and when does Greenwave will say something that makes sense instead being a total mockery each time he opens his mouth.

In the the words of Roberto d'Aubuisson, "we are coming and you are gonna get an asskickin "

This training and tactical exercises are nothing new. US Military have been working with DR troops for longer then we know. Ran into them into the 90's once up on a mountain near Constanza , I was surprised to see our Boy's in full combat gear with the young Dominican soldiers. This is a good thing, or would you rather have the DR be an enemy to the US?

I didn't think so.

Hoorah!! Kick some Commie ASS!

"This training and tactical exercises are nothing new. "

Indeed thay are not, to the detrament of the Dominican people for most of the 20th century.

and who might these Commies be, Jander? might you be speaking of Cuba? that is not an easy ass to kick, i can assure. the only country that can be confronted is Haiti, because they have a contiguous fronteir, and if they are commies, then i am late to the information party.

Written by: cibaeño75, 6 Aug 2008 4:01 PM
From: United States

Indeed thay are not, to the detrament of the Dominican people for most of the 20th century.

Perhaps? or Perhaps not?

I won't open up that can of worms..

Any Commies, doesn't matter we are not prejudiced when comes to Communism!

Jander, why are you so afraid of communism. DO you know what communism is? do you know the difference between socialism and communism? If you do, please enlighten us.

No communist country ever invaded the DR. to communist country ever required the DR to send troops to another country in order to ensure trade benefits.

And if capitalism is soooo good, why is there such huge (and growing) inequality in the DR and throughout Latin America?

If the road that you've taken has brought you to a bad end, what's so good about that road? Why not even IMAGINE the possibility of a different path - not capitalism, not communism, but rather something different from what we have. Are you so afraid of change? The only ones who should be afraid are those bloody oligarchs who continue to fleece the population. It's the Figueroa Baez & co that should fear change. Of course the dominant groups have vilify anything different that would reduce their benefits and increase those of the public...

snooze

Jeez, I wonder if people who are so complacent and happy with the status quo have visited a Batey or a barrio in any of our cities. I wonder if they've stopped to talk to our people who feel completely dis-empowered and disillusioned with life and its prospects. If they have, then please explain to me, what is so good about the status quo and the road that has brought us here.

So when you are praising the glories of Kism and our relations with the US - which are 2 separate things - don't be so ignorant to ignore that it hasn't been all good. Nuance your points a bit. If Kism and our relationship with the US has been all good, I wonder why there is such misery, inequality, and crime in the DR. Maybe we should follow a hybrid model between Kism and Sism. But for that we need to push for political change that gives an effective voice to the public, that increases transparency in government, that reduces the benefits of those oligarchs whose wealth comes from plunders generations ago, not from anything (positive) they've done themselves.

exactly yawn..

I don't likeanchovies either , so relax.. incredible ,

But if you want to know my Grandparents defected from the Ukraine in the early 1900's so you know between them and my mother I guess communism wasn't very popular topic in our house.

If you want we can try and exume Laurenty from his grave in N.Dak and see if we can ask him why he had to flee from Russia so he and his family could enjoy religous freedom.

If you want to know more then ask anyone that is still alive I am sure they give you several reasons. Growing up during a time when we had missles pointed at each other would make anyone a little afraid. Now what were you saying..

Really though, for all those people on here saying "kick some commie ass" and so forth, do you really know what communism is? Really? Because if you did you would know communism is brought about by socialism which is an ECONOMIC policy and has absolutely nothing to do with the way in which a government is run and/or the people's freedom or lack thereof. It just HAPPENS to be that some of the so called "socialist" countries that we have seen in the past such as the USSR, PRofChina, N Korea etc.. have happened to be lacking in freedom in the same way that HUNDREDS of capitalist regimes have have lacked freedom i.e. Trujillo. So Please before getting all on your high horse learn what your talking about.

Baldoria, why is an otherwise brilliant man such as yourself wasting precious thoughts on the likes of Jander. anyone who defines his political responses by harking back to some family anecdote of a century ago, without examining the alternate process, is not going to listen or learn. these are guys who will shoot you in a bar if you say one good word about people like Fidel Castro. these are types to be avoided at all costs.

Right... I agree that the USSR and other Communist countries had HUGE problems - but were these countries truly socialist? that's another story. The fact that there are a myriad number of problems in communist countries, does not make Kism the right choice. It's not an "either-or" choice. We can strive for & deserve more. We can't stop pushing for change b/c we can say or buy anything... b/c the truth of the matter is, HOW EFFECTIVE ARE THESE FREEDOMS? Everyone can criticize the G, but are these voices heard? anyone can go eat at The Asador de Antonio- an exquisite stakehouse here in Sto Dgo- but can they really? How can a worker who earns $10000/month, to go spend $5000 on a meal? Is that true freedom?

We need to continuously pushed for a more equal society - not communism, maybe not Socialism (which are 2 different things)- but a more just and transparent society that proactively takes from the rich and gives to the poor, so that the rich don't get too far ahead of the poor.

the sad thing about some of these posters is that they are so much like George Bush. they cannot understand shading and nuance. everything is a study in absolutes. capitalism good...communism bad. it is like George Bush saying "If you are not for us, then you are against us".really? what if i am somewhere in the middle?

well then you must move to Sweden then and freeze your stones and pay 60% taxes and drink 6 dollar beer

But can most people afford to buy that $6? Is it better for a small percentage of the population to benefit from the pleasures of life while the vast majority live in uncertainty and misery, or a more equalized society where those who benefit have to give back to ensure that all benefit from quality public services?

For those of you who wish for the more individualistic society where it's either sink or swim, then I hope your job never gets outsourced and your health care goes away, your savings dwindle, and you become bankrupt.

Baldoria, might you be describing the land of the free, the home of the brave, the USA? if so, you failed to mention " your home gets foreclosed upon, because unscrupulous persons made a fortune suckering you into an untenable financial situation!

Caveat emptor

Exactly Dread... In the U.S. everyone is really individualistic, while on their way up, but cry for help on their way down. Well, why no create a system where you don't have to cry for help, it's there and its a right for all. In my old life as a management consultant in one of the Big 5 firms, EVERYONE was republican, but with many got laid-off and had to go on Employment benefits and also pay for their own health insurance, they finally realized the benefits of good public services. The thing is we don't want to be the "suckers" paying for those "free riding" - that's the republican mentality, excellently spelled out in the book "Chain Reaction," and the one they've sold to working class Americans to justify tax cuts that overwhelmingly benefit the upper strata.

Look at McCain-- and I know I'm going way off topic, even more than what I've gone already-- arguing that Obama will raise income taxes, when the fact is that this is the case only for those making > $200,000.

well, GC, i hope you will rely upon that mantra for consolation when some dear, elderly relative of yours buys his or her blood pressure medication, and it turns out to be chalk. caveat emptor goes only so far. the vendor also has a duty to act in good faith! at least, in a civilised ecosystem.

Baldy have you been had by the Obamamable Snow Job

You are going to get "CHE"NGE is what you will get

Baldoria, i used to see these types whom you describe riding the Metro North Railroad. the laptop in one hand, the briefcase in the other, the cellphones incessantly ringing, and the wing tip shoes glistening. the Republican types who never gave a dollar to a homeless man, all the while blaming his situation on some condition of congenital laziness. at the end of the year, their tax preparers would take a 5000 dollar deduction for " charitable contributions". they would sit at the dining table lashing out at " all those Puerto Ricans on welfare", meanwhile they would find every loophole to beat the income tax system. look at all the firms with offshore registry in Bermuda, a country you can drive around in half an hour! they all want good schools for their kids, good roads to drive the Aston Martin , expeditious response from the fire department in the event that the summer home goes ablaze, and prompt response from Emergency Medical Services in the case that Trish overdoses

on valium. but they do not want to pay for it. they are the same guys who love a good war, especially when someone else is in the foxhole!

this is for the "z man", yea i forgot that! :D we should invade Haiti all the way, and get the natural resources left in that miserable country, is no use for them since they are so not smart to think about progress , ohh well im incapable of that, . i wish :D

The never disappointing Earwax and his stupidities. Why would we want Haiti's natural resources, so that the Vincinis, Corripios, and all those other oligarchs can get richer? or so that the political parties ahve more resources to give out to their supporters? More resources is not the answer, better adminsitration & more democratic mentality is what it'll take to make the DR a better country.

"they all want good schools for their kids, good roads to drive the Aston Martin , expeditious response from the fire department in the event that the summer home goes ablaze, and prompt response from Emergency Medical Services "

Yea! So?
What else do I pay taxes for?

YES - That's why we pay Taxes!!! To give ourselves, and everyone else in our society good public services. Taxes should go to fund public goods. High income areas should not have better or worse service than less priviledge areas. There needs to be a continuous transfer of funds to help "anivelar" our horribly skewed society.

"High income areas should not have better or worse service than less priviledge areas."

They don't.
I know of not one single School District in the USA which allocates more funds to its schools in affluent districts than it does poorer ones. In fact it is usually the other way around. The Poorer schools get more money and attention.

I live in a area that is considered affluent. the 2 Public Elementary Schools are considered the best in the county yet their budgets are almost 1/2 of many innner city schools in the same district.

The schools in our area aren't better because of money or the Teachers. They are better because of Parent Involvement. The 2 schools have the highest amount of parental partiipation in the county. The inner city schools have the lowest.

Euromax and Baldoria23:

Wiht all due respect since I like You both 50/50, Your comments are professional and decent.

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JRRubirosa, 7 Aug 2008 8:55 PM
From: United States
Euromax and Baldoria23:

Wiht all due respect since I like You both 50/50, Your comments are professional and decent.
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Hey primo about me. Eres muy frio conmigo

"like a good child, we listen to our uncle sam. If Belial is a commie stooge, what are we who blindly follow the US, the country that invaded us and still manages much of our affairs? Like I've said in the past, the U.S. is only looking out for its own interests. If that means screwing over the whole world, so be it.

With that said, I'm not advocating to disengage with the U.S., but rather think more independently for what is better not only for the DR but for Latin America and other developing countries. Are we equal partners, or just children taking orders? Are our concerns as heeded as the U.S.'s? I think that they should."

Well said, I still can not believe that there are people so gullible to believe everything by the Empire…… If you really call your self Dominican then you would up on why we should not trust the U.S.
Here are some books that I think you should read
“Rag-Tag, Sum, Riff-Raff, and Commies”. This book will give you an insight into things,

Texas Bill, by the way I do read books I was in the military for years, I did not know they where training me to kill INNOCENT people in foreign lands. The U.S. put Saddam Hessian in power and then we took him out to steal his oil. The U.S. trained and helped Trujillo come into power, Trujillo killed more then 30,000 people, I think that the U.S. is responsible. Pinochet, Batista, the list goes on. baldoria23, your right!!! We are children listening to our Uncle Sam telling us what to do what to think.

AnthonyC, I can attest first hand of the inequality in elementary schools, middle schools and high school. Just compare the services you get in P.S.84 in brooklyn, and the Public Elementary school in Swarthmore, PA. If you just call and ask about the science program or the foreign language program, you'll get an idea of the inequality. Please do so, and report back.

“This is preparing to get rid of nutty Hugo...... not Raul who cares about Raul he has no oil”

There’s a treaty that the U.S. that will never invade Cuba, whether the United States up holds that any longer who knows.

For some one who is Cuban you sure to care about DR and Venezuela a lot. ? Why?

Written by: gouletcolonial, 6 Aug 2008 12:01 PM
From: Canada

Jean-Bertrand Aristide, was removed from power by troops that where trained in D.R. by U.S. Special forces. “This is a proven fact!”
Aristide was sending Haitian citizens to Cuba for medical training, free training. So they can return and help there country.
There where a lot of reasons why the U.S. did not like what were happening in Haiti, but you know what? That’s Haiti and if that’s the way they want it that’s the way they should have it. I have said it before these people “the Elite” they don’t care about you. Live or die, rich or poor, if you have a job and a house or if you are some bum on the street. They don’t care.

Written by: gouletcolonial, 6 Aug 2008 12:39 PM
From: Canada
not likely hugo will be out on his fat behind and soon

People like you hope for the worst, you have been hoping for years that Castro Dies and look he’s still alive. It must make your blood boil that the only thing killing him is old age. The only thing that has affected him is god’s will,

I was in the military for years, I never know about April 1965. Not until the troops went to Barahona. I asked a Sgt. Of mine that’s happens to be Dominican He told me that it was some BS intervention of a civil war and brushed it off And my First Sgt.was in DR when that war happened and he bragged how they kicked A$$.
I bought “Rag-Tags, Scum, Riff-Raff And Commies”
And it totally changed my mind about things, I will never e the same.
By the way the Dominican Sgt went to Iraq and was discriminated and sent on the most dangerous missions. Because he was not one of there favored troop

After I read Rag-Tags, I had a revelation they did it to DR, and several other countries. It was not just Trujillo. They killed people fighting for a better life, for better schools for there kids and for equal rights. The United States toppled a truly democratically elected president Juan Bosch, Che said, Not one life, not my life not one thousand lives is as important as the revolution. What do you think the U.S. Elite say about keeping there colonialism and capitalist ways getting richer off other poor countries and sammming the American citizens. to them not 4 thousand U.S. soldiers not 1 million Iraqi citizens are as important as to keep there riches and their elite status.

Written by: juanb, 6 Aug 2008 12:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Trujillo was a cruel dictator. To try to improve his world image he invited Koreans, Jews and other downtrodden people to find safe haven here.

Chavez is the dictator of a failed, violent country, where people are afraid to go out at night and murders are commonplace (much more so than anywhere else in the world). To try to improve his world image he, like Trujillo and other reviled dictators, tries to befriend a few people. Big Deal. Everyone still wants to leave Venezuela.

But then again, a lot of people would like to leave D.R. and Cuba And the U.S., they all have there reasons. What about Haiti ? that’s the U.S. at work right there! What do you think about that ?

Chill put the pipe down and go to bed....Maybe Aristide was sending them to Havana to learn to drive taxis cause that is what doctors do in Havana there are so many

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gouletcolonial, 8 Aug 2008 2:42 AM
From: Canada
Chill put the pipe down and go to bed
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This is what crack do ?, I will not try that never again !!

A small brain is a terrible thing to waste..... eh Tonyj

chillaxin201 - I do hope more and more people have the same opinion as you and get orginized to get in power

Written by: gouletcolonial, 6 Aug 2008 6:46 PM
From: Canada
well then you must move to Sweden then and freeze your stones and pay 60% taxes and drink 6 dollar beer
GC oh dear how smart are u - even the "poorest" in Denmark, Sweden and Norway will not freeze their stones or pussies off because we do have a system that take care of everybody and yes everybody do have the money to pay for the beer even if they buy it out of a welfare check. And yes, even if we dont like it due to our selfishness and greed, we do accept to pay 30-60% tax to receive all the benefits of our welfare system. And yes there are people taking advantage of the system, but we all agree its better to pay the prize then to shut our eyes to children and adults alike who have to search the garbage dunes - whoever accept that is a digsrace to humanity. cont.

In the country of milk and honey and Goods own country there are more than 10 million in a stravation situation? If we want to be more than animals we better start looking a bit further than our own egoism and try find some empathy for others.

scandi you will be begging us to save you from the dune monkeys....are you a Dane or are you sucking on the system

us? In my country we take good care of the geriatrics - we wouldnt ask u to do so - by the way i do pay some 40% incometax - an amount that would let you go to all those favorite resturants you like so much in SD - have a nice veal and dont think about the ones on the garbage dunes - and by the way we have been around in Scandinavia for a good few thousand years and we will still be even if we needed some Marshall assist after the WW2 - we do have been savages in the past and we could easily turn back.

Like I said before ...how do you make a Swede and a Norwegian laugh together......Hey Sven hey Olie ! We just killed a Dane...ha ha ha ha

Are you a Dane or a pretend Dane ? sucking on the system

Carlsberg /Tuborg...... sux

Molson - what a waste of time - Alpine - maybe

anthonyc, you are such a nincompoop that i find it difficult to respond to you. there have been numerous hearings in the state senate in albany regarding the lack of funding for public schools in the inner cities, and the discrepancy in resource allocation between poor and affluent districts. then along comes anthonyc, who apparently believes he is the only reader who has been to america, so he can regale us with nonsense and we will not know the difference. well, anthonyc, i am a guy who loves DATA. just ask GC. show me figures regarding the allocation of funds per student in , say, Levittown, as compared to Evander Childs high school. then we can take it a further step.

scandi do you know the Gate of Carlsberg with the elephants do you ? are you a real Dane or someone sucking on the system ? why dont you answer where did you come from ?

scandi do you know the Gate of Carlsberg with the elephants do you ? are you a real Dane or someone sucking on the system ? why dont you answer where did you come from ?

Dread dont start bickering with your new racing buddy........... it does not become you

i will cease and desist as long as he sticks to that which he truly knows, motorsports. social commentary is not his forte, and he should exercise caution when he unloads his preposterous insights. and Goulet, nothing i do becomes me.

I think you have been eating the shells for to long of those crabs you catch......with the fishing line and the dead rat

correction, Goulet. i catch them with bare hands, the manly way. once i have figured out if they are left or right handed, their ass is mine!

Did you know with stone crabs they break of his cracking claw and throw him back .....Never to grow another of equal size but he will grow it back

Stone crab claws grow back as big as before. Actually bigger as the crab matures. I love Stone Crab. Whenever I watch Dangerous Catch I wonder why those guys risk so much for King Crab.

BTW did you know there is Stone crab in the DR?

try MOPAXIMPORT.com. i know they have king crab, but i cannot speak for stone crab.

Written by: ScandiViking, 8 Aug 2008 11:02 AM
From: Denmark
chillaxin201 - I do hope more and more people have the same opinion as you and get orginized to get in power


Thank you.......... Scandi

Scandi is a moron

GC
Its so easy to read u - whenever you dont have the talent or the arguments - go for the nuts
I take moron as a compliment coming from you

tonyc claw will molt to larger size but not break to largersize...if it is one of the few that survive....that is why they now take both claws and throw him back ...the survival is about the same.....very poor

scandi the psuedo/crypto Dane speaks from the land of Elephant beer......where did you come from before you started to suck on the Danish welfare system

Scandi dont let the compliment from Egor201 go to your head

GC
BINGO! u just won your mushroom treatment

GC
I was probably born the same way as you, but on the contrary to you I was raised to believe that even though im from a country of honey i should treat everbody as equal and praise my fortune born in this country, and care about others not that fortunate.

scandi the old joke is you say I am from my mother and everyone answers "I ve been there " but enough of the platitudes and cliches...with all due respect ...where are you from? originally or where are your roots ....I am proud to say Canada .....However I would never want to reside there again....and I ask because you seemed unfamiliar with Henle and Borge or was I mistaken

So are you really a Dane or just sucking on the system ?

GC
You can be damn sure my ancestors were the vikings - as I said earlier we have been around here for some thousand years - Am I proud? - at times yes at times no - by the way - if you are a Canadian which tribe are u? - if not you might have ancestors like me at the end

I did not ask about your ancestors ....are you born and raised in the land of Hamlet ? Si o No ? why so evasive....

are you a tourist at an internet cafe in Copenhagen....pretending to play Viking

or are you at home choking your chicken and pulling our chain

GC
What tribe was it again?

Another yank on the chain by whining socialist complainer who claims to be from Denmark the land of "baby backs " the truth is he is just some wanker who drinks a carlsberg once in a while

ScandiK, best way to deal with GC is to ignore him when he misbehaves, else, you'll go around and around a truly childish routine with him. You are 100% correct that when he or the other NeoCons on this site don't have a point they rely to name callings, as if commie, or hatian-lover, or moron will stop us from speaking. Well, the only thing I have to say that other oppressors and bigots used similar names against Martin L. King, Gandhi, and Mandela-- I, for one, am honored to be called similar names, and take their insults as indicators that I'm on the right path.

So GC, keep on with your racist, bigoted, pro-Yankee speech it just propels those of us fighting for a better world forward! Oh and ask yourself, what type of world are you fighting for? and also, how would you be treated if you were part of the NOT privileged group?

Baldy not the whining victim card again

Pro Yanqui yes ......Racist Bigot no

Goulet, in the depths of my heart i believe that you are not a racist, and are a decent human being...no doubt. but you have to concede that you raise eyebrows and do yourself a disservice by using terms like " sand monkey" . come on , dude, you are adult enough to be more circumspect in the acoustics of your mind.

Is there a difference? I'm sure there is, with you, I'm not altogether sure... ;-)

Here's what I don't get from you GC, when someone critiques something you're for, then their "whining"; but when you critique government corruption, then it's valid analysis. Do you see a contradiction there? Plus, who named you the arbitrator of what is a valid critique and what is not? If anything, you're a supporter of a neo-con, nationalist, pro-market, anti-haitian, many times anti-dominican, anti-corruption, pro-yankee, heavy-police, anti-intellectual point of view. I hope I have that right. My point is, you're an opinionated person and far from being a judge of any argument. Just present your own, and stop insulting people. If your arguments are so solid, they'll speak for themselves and you won't have to resort to name calling, or maybe you never made it out of elementary school and that's the only way you know how to argue.

first Dread you are reading into this .....the expression is dune monkey.... it is an ethnic slur no worse than towel head or, rug rider and has now been replaced by the collective Desert People

If anything, you're a supporter of a neo-con, nationalist, pro-market, anti-haitian, many times anti-dominican, anti-corruption, pro-yankee, heavy-police,................Anti Haitian in what way ? anti ugly dwarf Aristide ....emphatically yes....he incited to murder ....this you cannot deny...among other things

Goulet, it is not the kind of thing i expect from a man such as yourself, who has been exposed to better. ethnic jokes are one thing, and i can regale you all day with black jokes. but dune monkey is not exactly acceptable, at least to me. i do not think i am being overly sensitive..ask some of your friends what they think.

and this is for the phony Dane who claims danish creds but knows absolutely nothing about his own country.....who then asks me what tribe in Canada I am from....What does he mean by that? I do not understand

You know very well that he is asserting, in code, that the only true canadians are the indian tribes who inhabited the country before the white man came. i guess he is telling you, in a roundabout sort of way, that you are not a true canadian. he is secure in his heritage as a dane, because of the longevity and constancy of their history.

Dread that is the point ...these terms do not carry the weight of hate speech if not used with the intent....they are silly expressions used for shock and effect

wow dread first you have to believe the guy is a Dane I dont...that is unless he is an uneducated boob .....that.he does not know who Borge and Henle are makes it very suspect

Any way I will be away in Portillo for a few days starting tomorrow and you wont have me to kick around as only Richard Nixon could say....be good and dont insult anybody I wouldnt

Goulet, i have met many an uneducated, dimwitted Dane, believe me. no nationality has a monopoly on ignorance, i assure you!

OK dread from now on it is Desert People or Oil Barons

enjoy your stay, and be well. and no crotch crabs, please!

I am out the door

GC I cant believe u are not able to attend to here with your excellent wisdom - if so I feel very sorry for u - u must go through hell with abstinence.
Why is it that u are so very interested in whether i am a Dane or not. I thought the issues and enlightment and arguments to maybe solve the issues are the important objectives here even though we all know its our own expression of what would correct the issue but probably none of us do have much power to do. Its more or less to let the steam out.

By the way you are quite right im not a Dane even though i know about Victor Borge and have heard about mr. Henle. I dont give a shit about either of them since i have other interest, but it funny to see how everybody else not having the same interst as u are illiterate and ignorant idiots.
You just show yourself as a person of very high selfesteem, egosentric besserwisser but im not sure your brain can back it up.

I will only enlighten you of my nationality if i see some begging. On your knees or I whip ye.

I was in the military for years, I never know about April 1965. Not until the troops went to Barahona. I asked a Sgt. Of mine that’s happens to be Dominican He told me that it was some BS intervention of a civil war and brushed it off And my First Sgt.was in DR when that war happened and he bragged how they kicked A$$.
I bought “Rag-Tags, Scum, Riff-Raff And Commies”
And it totally changed my mind about things, I will never e the same.
By the way the Dominican Sgt went to Iraq and was discriminated and sent on the most dangerous missions. Because he was not one of there favored troop

chill stop whining about your treatment in the army before you got the BCD you just did not like to get up early in the morning....Also why dont you leave NJ and go live in Barahona....one less welfare check for the US....You had a very old first SGT or he was blowing smoke up your @sss....Now get a job and contribute to society and stop reading that commie propaganda

scandi thank you for leveling and telling the truth.....You are not a Dane and you are in Denmark sucking on the system....Are you one of the Desert People?

"And my First Sgt.was in DR when that war happened "

So you first Sgt. was in his 70's?

Another liar.

GC,

Whatever country your from, stop spreading hate & bad images. People like you are the ones who propagate stereotypes that causes the bad-recognition of the many. If you are canadian, why don't you go back to your Popsicle (sp?) country and stop chasing 14 year olds around the bar? We all know you expats are here sucking the all the milk and honey, and giving locals your crumbs. Then you have the audacity to say your doing something good for the country. Well, thank you but no thank you, you can now leave back to your cold fortress up north, and oppressed DOminicans from afar.

HOw does that feel? to be labeled by stereotypes?

One more thing, you spreader of filth and garbage, LEARN SOME MANNERS! From what you consistently demonstrate, you are nothing more than a bully and ignorant who relies on dirty jokes, semi-racist comments, and insults when your sophomoric points have no merit, which is most of the time if not always.

Good day to you, sir/madam.

Baldy got up on the wrong side today ....I dont have much use for your left wing paranoid conspiratorial rants either...but I really enjoy pushing your buttons... Good Day to you ...Comrade Baldy

"Good day to you, sir/madam."

LOL.

Ciby how goes it in La Grosse Pomme...did you go to, the parade?

What a honor to be called comrade - but I think you would the last person I'd be comrades with, unless you get a much needed social lobotomy :-)

Oh and by the way, I've no need for your neo-con/neo-nazi points. You're just a waste of time & space. A house plant would be more valuable to the world than you, b/c instead of giving out damaging & hate-filled hot air, it gives off oxygen. So do us a favor and buy a house plant, and stop posting for a while :-) DOn't you wanna go back on vacation?

"Ciby how goes it in La Grosse Pomme...did you go to, the parade?"

Hell's no. I never go to that debacle.

gc
Im still a Viking by gens and beeing a oil baron as well im sure my taxpayment is enough to cover your welfare check for a year or so even if u should have veal, lagusta or camarones all day long in SD.

"I've no need for your neo-con/neo-nazi points"

For the LAST time!

NAZIs were.....

SOCIALISTS!
They Were Liberals!
They were for a Strong Central Gov.
They believed in the state over Individual Freedom.
They believed in a Centralized Economy.

All Democrate Party Talking points.

thanks for clearing that up Tonyc........... Baldy gets confused when he is upset

AC
why didnt u leave your beloved usa instead of living under a nazi gov like Clinton,s than?