Santo Domingo.- A delegation from the Virgin Islands visited the Dominican Republic
in August on a fact-finding mission on immigration, visa, and security
matters.
Registrar-General Stephanie Benn led the
four-member delegation to Santo Domingo, which also included Assistant
Secretary in the Premier’s Office Mrs. Carolyn Stoutt Igwe.
The delegation met with officials at the British,
United States, and Dutch Embassies and the Honorary Consulate of the Bahamas.
They also met with the Investigation Department of the Dominican Republic
National Police and with officials from the country’s Central Registry Office
and Migration Department.
“The discussions were enlightening, interactive,
rewarding and indeed a tremendous learning experience for members of the group,” Benn said, noting that the delegation learned about techniques used to
produce fraudulent documents and methods that are used to detect those
documents.
Citizens of the Dominican Republic are among those foreign nationals who are
required to obtain a visa prior to visiting the Virgin Islands. Since
January this year, 906 visas were issued for Dominican citizens to enter or remain in the Virgin Islands.
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
this should be a red flag....more racist afrocentric fact finding missions ...be on guard....these people could be stalking horse for wacko USVI policies
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
Currently RDs are coveted workers in the USVI which has no unemployment to speak of and 20% of the population are government employees.....aint it grand
Written by: Lautaro, 2 Sep 2008 10:34 AM
From: Brazil
Woa, you surely despise those USVI guys, GC. For someone who loves the US with all his soul, this contempt for one of its parts seems suspicious at best. Care to enlighten us about your experience with those islanders?
From: United States, New York City
afrocentric fact finding mission? give me a break.
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
most of the Islanders are wonderful people however the USVI is a failed promise what should be a show case for black accomplishments has been turned into a greedy money pit with racial overtones it makes me very sad......Puerto Rico on the other hand is a showcase of individual accomplishments without compromise to USA ...Boricuas jealously guard their culture and have become an important part of the American dream....I have lived extensively in both places
From: Venezuela, Puerto la Cruz, Sector Agua Potable, Pozuelos
CG,
You know I will back you up on the USVI, being a fellow former Cruzan.
Written by: Lautaro, 2 Sep 2008 11:04 AM
From: Brazil
Could it be a matter of culture? because, from what I have read on the matter, the danes didn't bother with leaving stable institutions on that group of islands, so the US might have had to build things from scratch. Contrary to PR's case, where the only thing that the yanks had to do was to pour the funds to get things running smoothly.
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
Lautaro the Danes were very good administrators of their imperial colonies as were the British and Dutch for the most part....America bought these islands in 1918 for strategic purposes .....try to imagine the society that existed in Puerto Rico when they took over ...there were actually spanish titles dukes etc probably living there .The Spanish cultural roots were in stone just as in the rest of the Spanish Antilles...the other islands were abandoned by their colonial masters as late as the 1950s and 60s
From: Venezuela, Puerto la Cruz, Sector Agua Potable, Pozuelos
Lautaro,
In my case I had about 50 employees working for me after hurricane Hugo hit and basically wiped out St. Croix. 40 of them were from the U.S. The others were mainly what they call "Down Islanders" I had one born and raised local. The rest were from St. Kitts, Nevis, Guadaloupe, etc. You will find that not only are they beneath doing many jobs presented to them they also will not put forth the effort to get it done like it should be. "Liming in the bushes" is an expression heard a lot there and it means being lazy and goofing off.
Written by: Lautaro, 2 Sep 2008 11:16 AM
From: Brazil
So the human materiel to be found over there was not up to the task, I take it.
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
lautaro you are trying to draw us into making racially derogatory statements....greed not genetics is the down fall of the USVI......A sense of entitlement I have never seen manifested like it is there
Written by: Lautaro, 2 Sep 2008 11:21 AM
From: Brazil
If it's hurting the public treasury so much, then why don't the US give them independence and get done with it?
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
that is not the American way ...They would have to ask for it and they never will...... such prosperity on a rock with 0 zero resources except people
Written by: Lautaro, 2 Sep 2008 11:29 AM
From: Brazil
Imagine, without all those subsidies backing them, the USVIs might as well flee from the place for all their trouble.
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
those subsidies were to help a people realize their potential and I am not saying some US virgin islanders have not ...They should have done much better with the resources they have....their refusal to accept anything or anyone from outside with the exception of MONEY has made them failures
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
Probably the most famous person ever born in the Virgin Islands is little rememered there because he was mostly white and jewish ...A small plaque comemerates the house he was raised in and that is all...Virgin Islander mostly do not have the slightest idea who he was.....His mother was from the Dominican Republic,,, Jacob-Abraham-Camille Pissarro was born in Charlotte Amalie, St. Thomas, to Abraham Gabriel Pissarro, a Portuguese Sephardic Jew, and Rachel Manzana-Pomié, from the Dominican Republic. -Camille Pissarro is considered the father of Impressionism ....most people think he was french....BUT HE WAS A WEST INDIAN
Written by: Lautaro, 2 Sep 2008 1:21 PM
From: Brazil
Did he made known his west indian origin or kept silent about it?
Written by: BLANCO, 2 Sep 2008 1:32 PM
From: Dominican Republic
how did this story switch from the british virgin islands to the us virgin islands
Written by: Lautaro, 2 Sep 2008 1:44 PM
From: Brazil
It's relevant to discuss them, mr. Blanco, in the sense that it would be useful to understand why the Washington model has (apparently) failed to bring into these islands a sense of purpose, while the Westminster one have done wonders with their share of Caribbean rocks.
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
the BVI and the USVI are forever joined at the hip ones prosperity depends on the other ....Just like Canada and USA
From: United States
Blanco has a point you guys...
The article clearly reads: "British Virgin Islands delegation visits Dominican Republic"
I don't see how the BVI and the USVI are forever joined at the hip. One is governed by the Brits and the other by the US. You might as well say that PR and the DR are in the same situation and each one's prosperity does not depend on the other.
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
the BVI is governed by Britain do not let anyone from there here you say that ....same as saying Australia or Canada is governed by Britain...no there is no similarity USVI is the United States BVI is not Britain .....The distance between the Island of Tortola BVI and St John USVI is a few miles...I have made the trip more than a hundred times and the economic umbilical cord between the two is quite evident...Tourism is the economy Period Punto unless you consider offshore banking...from Virgin Gorda to Necker to Peter island to Annegada and all the other pretty yachting stops it is tourism and just about every body who goes there does via the USVI and some PR....the ferry service is like the bus to santiago....This archipelago that is made up of the USVI and the BVI is an exceedingly beautiful place inhabited by nice people...Outside influences have tarnished its lustre
Written by: Crazee, 2 Sep 2008 11:02 PM
From: British Virgin Islands
Delegation from the BRITISH VIRGIN ISLANDS. (NOT) THE UNITED STATES VIRGIN ISLANDS. From the beginning the comments seem to just focus on the USVI I'm wondering why that is?
From: United States
GC, is your post intended to imply that the BVI are not governed by Britain? the Queen is still head of state, and the national anthem is "God save the Queen". and, just how did you sidetrack this article so neatly?
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
since you put it that way ......like all the colonies of England in the Caribbean Jamaica ,Barbados Antigua ,etc they take great pride in mimicking their former masters down to the powdered wigs and cannot seem to shake that annoying habit....But American money is the currency of the realm and the chief minister runs the show usually in the style of Vere Bird of Antigua....Their Passports say BVI not UK as opposed to USVI which have American passports .....technically the queen is the head of state in Canada as well just dont remind Canadians or Australians about it they dont like it ....west indians for some reason take a perverse pride in it as you well know
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
It probably stems from never having had to fight for their independence.... unlike the islands of the Spanish Antilles....{the UK is responsible for their self defense}
Written by: Jander, 3 Sep 2008 12:08 AM
From: Dominican Republic
The BVI has a bit of an advantage over the USVI ,and thats 600,000 registered offshore companies.
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From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
Jander that is correct ...it is a dirty little secret ...It is the scammers paradise as well as sailing paradise
From: United States
OK, so all this having been said, why hasn't anyone commented on the POINT of this article?
"A delegation from the Virgin Islands visited the Dominican Republic in August on a fact-finding mission on immigration, visa, and security matters. The discussions were enlightening, interactive, rewarding and indeed a tremendous learning experience for members of the group, noting that the delegation learned about techniques used to produce fraudulent documents and methods that are used to detect those documents"
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
let me state again what I said at the beginning...".this should be a red flag....more racist afrocentric fact finding missions ...be on guard....these people could be stalking horse for wacko USVI opinion
Currently RDs are coveted workers in the USVI which has no unemployment to speak of and 20% of the population are government employees.....aint it grand...The BVI also covet workers from the DR the BVI has practically no unemployment {except for drunks}......I can promise you they returned talking about how racist the DR society is.....they ought to look at their own attitudes
From: United States
we don't like to comment on the point of the article here, latinhunk. aren't you paying attention? guys just start writing whatever passes through their heads at any given moment.
From: United States, California, San Francisco, Treasure Island
the democratic delegate to Congress from the USVI is a member of the Black Congressional Caucus....Get the picture....Maxine Waters sister lives in USVI .....and you know how they feel about the Dominican Republic the BCC is very open minded...Remember they are the ones that got Bubba to put Aristide in and exacerbate the Haitian immigrant problem.....Then they visit the DR on their way to Cuba and critique the racist Dominicans
Written by: lexnegro, 3 Sep 2008 10:20 PM
From: United States
I guess the reason for the mission has to deal with the fact that there is a large dominican population in the BVI. This includes those dominicans who can trace their roots back to the BVI and can claim rights because of these ties. BVIslanders have UK/European Union citizenship re:passports.
Written by: Crazee, 3 Sep 2008 10:52 PM
From: British Virgin Islands
You are quite right LEXNEGRO,Thank you for thiking outside the the racist box most of these comments seem to be eminating from. The Dominican Population here is rather large but no bigger than the other countries that are represented here. For the most part the countries that are represented here keep tp themselves so we have concentrations of different countires in certain parts of the islands. In an effort to better understand the Dominican culture a delegation made a visit to the country. We have more legal Dominicans here than illegals. which can be said for all of the other countries here. Fake immirgration documents are forged by Dominicans. Same can be said of Trinidadians, Jamaicans, Vincentions, BVIlanders, the list is endless. You will blame a country for trying to understand another country and to better equip themselves to detect illegal documentation? That's very interesting.
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You know I will back you up on the USVI, being a fellow former Cruzan.
In my case I had about 50 employees working for me after hurricane Hugo hit and basically wiped out St. Croix. 40 of them were from the U.S. The others were mainly what they call "Down Islanders" I had one born and raised local. The rest were from St. Kitts, Nevis, Guadaloupe, etc. You will find that not only are they beneath doing many jobs presented to them they also will not put forth the effort to get it done like it should be. "Liming in the bushes" is an expression heard a lot there and it means being lazy and goofing off.
The article clearly reads: "British Virgin Islands delegation visits Dominican Republic"
I don't see how the BVI and the USVI are forever joined at the hip. One is governed by the Brits and the other by the US. You might as well say that PR and the DR are in the same situation and each one's prosperity does not depend on the other.
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"A delegation from the Virgin Islands visited the Dominican Republic in August on a fact-finding mission on immigration, visa, and security matters. The discussions were enlightening, interactive, rewarding and indeed a tremendous learning experience for members of the group, noting that the delegation learned about techniques used to produce fraudulent documents and methods that are used to detect those documents"
Currently RDs are coveted workers in the USVI which has no unemployment to speak of and 20% of the population are government employees.....aint it grand...The BVI also covet workers from the DR the BVI has practically no unemployment {except for drunks}......I can promise you they returned talking about how racist the DR society is.....they ought to look at their own attitudes